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Oud 8 september 2006, 09:27   #8861
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Je gaat hier wel erg uit de bocht hoor... K3 is een meidengroep die kinderliedjes brengt terwijl de links die wij aanhalen over internationale politiek gaan, en veel relevanter zijn dan enkel overeenkomst op basis van gelijkaardige getallen.
Hee Exodus, jij hebt hier zelf die links geplaatst over die artiesten met ongeveer dezelfde redenering.

Wat ik bedoel is het volgende: Het voorbeeld van K3 heb ik zelf verzonnen. Maar als ik het in een citaatkader had geplaatst met als bron een vage naam hadden jullie het waarschijnlijk als bewijs aanvaard.
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Hee Exodus, jij hebt hier zelf die links geplaatst over die artiesten met ongeveer dezelfde redenering.

Wat ik bedoel is het volgende: Het voorbeeld van K3 heb ik zelf verzonnen. Maar als ik het in een citaatkader had geplaatst met als bron een vage naam hadden jullie het waarschijnlijk als bewijs aanvaard.
Maar nee, die links die jij aanhaalt zijn gebaseerd op willekeurig toeval.

Als je een andere post vind van mij waar ik exact dat doe op dezelfde manier, mag je hem altijd posten. (En ik heb het nu niet over datum die een occulte signatuur hebben).
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Oud 8 september 2006, 09:29   #8863
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Je gaat hier wel erg uit de bocht hoor... K3 is een meidengroep die kinderliedjes brengt terwijl de links die wij aanhalen over internationale politiek gaan, en veel relevanter zijn dan enkel overeenkomst op basis van gelijkaardige getallen.

Ik heb ontdekt dat veel kinderprogramma's door de illuminati gebruikt worden om de kinderen te indoctrineren.Dus wel degelijk een verborgen
politieke agenda. De kinderen zijn de toekomst. toch?

Wat dacht je van teletubbies? Onschuldig? hmm
Wat dacht je van die 'zon'
en de tekens op hun hoofden zijn hyperspace tekens!
En als je ze zou ontcijferen, weet je dat ze via deze tekens
'communiceren' met de kinderen

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Oud 8 september 2006, 09:34   #8864
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Ik bedoel het juist andersom. Die theorie loslaten op K3 vinden jullie (jij dus niet) en ik ridicuul. Ik heb het NB zelf verzonnen. Waarom zou dat op alle andere artiesten die worden gelieerd met NWO niët ridicuul zijn?

Begrijp me goed dat ik je theorie niet steun, al beweer jij hier van wel!

Als K3er in zit is dat niet vanwege je theorie, die ik wel degelijk
belachelijk vind

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Tsja 'we' hebben het al vaken genoemd hier, maar daar gaan we weer
in de hoop dat er nog wat meer mensen 'wakker' worden.


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Satanic Sexual Abuse

by T. Stokes, Lecturer in Paranormal Studies

By the very nature of articles such as this, informants and sources have to be protected, and as a rule their identities withheld.

But so important did the main source for this article believe this information to be, that he was willing to risk identification to put the information into the public domain, and allowed me to question several other contacts.

In the early seventies I worked in London helping young offenders with their community service; often these youngsters would not be able to get a job for various reasons, and would on occasion get into trouble with the police.

You may already be familiar with the 1987 Cleveland and later Orkney child abuse scandals, among several others, where a group of social workers concocted or exaggerated stories in the Scottish Orkney islands of Satanic sexual abuse, and broke up whole families in the process. In fact there are listed no less than 80 of these Satanic investigations world wide, during a very narrow time frame, and usually were instigated by extremist Christian sects such as the Evangelicals.

At no time were real experts involved, e g demonologists or satanic defectors, just social workers and religious cultists.

Even the Catholic Church had to hold the secret “Operation Templeman”, in which to scan trainee priests to route out disturbed sexual predators.

This teenage lad when I first met him for his community service, had been picked up for shoplifting some food in a London supermarket, and when the police searched him back at the police station, he had strange bodily markings consistent with a ritual whipping.

This lad was living in a children’s home near to Hampstead Heath, and he was small for his age and with a large appealing mop of blonde curly hair, he would slowly loiter about on the Heath, and when approached by gay men to purchase his services, would give a signal to several other teenagers hiding in the bushes who would rush out and rough up the man and take his money, This was a popular pastime and was called in the local children’s homes “poof bashing”.

Now this lad said that among the regulars on the Heath were some well known personalities in politics and show business.

A detective whom I discussed this case with some years ago said: “politics is not a family oriented profession, it is more suited to a single mans lifestyle, which is why it appeals to so many gays”.

New Labour is by and large a gay party, priority is given to gay job seekers, children adopters and party activists.

The news that certain names are to be deemed politically incorrect such as the term “ homosexual” and “housewife” and that “bride and groom” are no longer to represent male and female, and all TV advertisements are to be monitored for racism content.

This all the while that the Hollywood hate filled anti-German films made during W.W.II are shown every afternoon on British T V, predictably showing the evil Germans losing out to the victorious “all-lies”. Surely now we should put all those racist films into the dustbin of history.


John Prescott (b. 1938)


The spate of recent newspaper articles making fun of deputy leader John Prescott have come from the Blairite centre and are designed to discredit him. Downing St bodyguards are always a good information source, and have said that a private investigator was digging the dubious sexual past history of those at the pinnacle of New Labour, and allegedly paid for by John Prescott, and has said that he believes that Gordon Brown married late in life only to make himself more credible, and that Brown was a rival with Mandelsohn for the attentions of Tony Blair.

If a man is open with his sexuality, I do not see a problem, but so many of the recent changes we have seen in the law have been anti-family and heterophobic in nature. And how many others have married to hide up their past, and become more appealing as family men?

The chief psychiatrist at Utah state prison and an expert on ritual abuse, both satanic Christian and Jewish, claims that over 40,000 mainly children each year are murdered in these enactments.


This took me back to the young lad who told me similar stories all those years ago about boys being abused by political figures who met on Hampstead Heath, and it is strange how the same names come up again and again. I would agree that a persons sexuality is their own, except where children or vulnerable adults are concerned.



The Kincora Boys home in Ireland (do a net search) was not only run as a pleasure centre for politicians, but our M.I.5 allowed this to go on, while watching and blackmailing top I.R.A. figures to talk peace.
But how much of this child abuse is Satanic in origin?

This is often just part of the trappings and only rarely is the cause religious in nature. But various perversions are used to gain access to abnormal mental depths, and often used with drugs to heighten awareness. These depths can, if used consistently, centre the power, but in an unbalanced way, and give unusual artistic ability and even clairvoyance. This is why so many male actors artists and mediums are gay.
http://www.illuminati-news.com/090606b.htm

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Hello all ...

I have been saying for years that the Big Brother society is already far more deeply entrenched in our lives than even some more aware people realise.

The thing to understand is that the most insidious technology and surveillance is never made public and only comes to light when it seeps out through leaks or accident. No-one knew publicly the extent of government phone tapping in the United States until it came out through non-official routes and even that was only a fraction of what is actually happening minute by minute.

I have also said again and again that it is in the apparently trivial and insignificant that the true extent of control and surveillance can be recognised. For instance, take the wheelie bin.



What can a simple rubbish bin with wheels have to do with the agenda for global control? What could be more innocent than putting out the trash? Answer one: plenty, it seems. Answer two: the age of innocence is over until we have removed the soulless ones who are leading us, pipes-a-playing, into the Orwellian nightmare.

It has emerged that half a million British wheelie bins have been microchipped, mostly by German-based companies, with the rest of the country apparently destined to follow.
Similar systems are at work throughout Europe. Yep, microchipping has now reached the trash can, as they say in America, and it is being dubbed 'chip and bin' after the credit card chip and pin system in the UK.

The microchips transmit information from the bin to a central database with the potential to keep a record of what rubbish each householder throws out. Even the garbage is no longer private.

None of this was stated publicly so some kind of debate could ensue. It was done without telling anyone and only found its way into the media this week when a council official mentioned the chips at a Rotary Club dinner. If they are even secretly bugging your bin, what the hell else is the Hidden Hand doing without our knowledge?




The London Mail on Sunday describes how the bin-bugging system works:

'With the bugging technology, the electronic chips are carefully hidden under the moulded front "lip" of wheelie bins used by householders for non-recyclable waste. As the bin is raised by the mechanical hoister at the back of the truck, the chip passes across an antenna fitted to the lifting mechanism. That enables the antenna to "read" a serial number assigned to each property in the street.

A computer inside the truck weighs the bin as it is raised, subtracts the weight of the bin itself and records the weight of the contents on an electronic data card.

When the truck returns to the depot, all the information collected on the round is transmitted to a hand-held device and downloaded on to the council's centralised computer. Each household can be billed for the amount of waste collected - even though they have already paid for the services through their council tax.'

'We're watching you ...'


The official justification for bin-bugging is to 'improve efficiency' and, get this, to settle disputes between neighbours about the ownership of wheelie bins. Martin Smith, head of Environmental Services at Kennet District Council, said:

'These are simply chips that will enable us to sort out disputes between householders about whose wheelie bin is whose. If there are any arguments we can just send out an officer to scan the chip and settle the argument. There is a debate in Government over the possibility of introducing charges but that's not what we had in mind when we ordered the chips.'

So they planning to spend two pounds to bug every wheelie bin in Britain, and fifteen thousand pounds to fit the technology to every waste truck, just to decide arguments on who owns a wheelie bin??

They also talk about the need to recycle waste more efficiently, but this, too, is, well, rubbish. The real reason is control. Some waste disposal specialists say the idea is to gather the information to fine people for not putting the right waste in the right bin and, stands back in amazement, the Blair government is preparing to give councils new powers in this regard.
Steve Foster, sales director of PM OnBoard, which fits weighing equipment to waste disposal trucks, said his company already had a full database of names and addresses and they were ready to introduce new fees for rubbish collection as soon as the law allows.

But still the true reason is beyond even that.

The mass of surveillance in all areas of our lives need to be seen as a whole, not just as individual parts. The bin bugging is significant in the way it highlights how Big Brother is infiltrating the fine detail of our lives, but it is even more important when viewed with all the other gathering intrusions.

Walk across towns and cities today and you are likely to pass from camera to camera recording your every movement. Go into a store or an ATM and the same happens. When your children go to school they are increasingly watched by cameras, preparing the next generation to accept this intrusion as a normal part of life.

Traffic cameras check your speed and a few miles an hour over the limit, no matter what the circumstances (unless you are a police officer), means an instant fine in the UK.

The satellite network can already photograph your licence plate from space and soon all new cars will have to carry chips that connect them to satellites to track the details of your every journey.

They are also preparing for the satellite system to connect with the human microchips planned to be introduced as soon as the public has been manipulated enough by the 'war on terror' to allow it.

When you work at the computer or use the phone you are being recorded by a system searching for key words or, if you are on their watch-list, every word. A glimpse at the scale of phone tapping in the United States has more recently come to light, but the true and enormous extent of Internet tracking, email surveillance and web surfing is not publicly known.

The sum total of all this, and so much more, is to turn people into a bar-coded 'commodity' tracked and recorded every day of their lives. What you say, where you go, what you buy, what you eat, what you drink, even what you throw in the rubbish bin are all being downloaded into vast data bases. Privacy? How do you spell that again, it's one of those old words my mother talked about, isn't it?

The idea is to make surveillance and control so much a feature of life that we acquiesce to its dictates even without being forced to by a uniform or dark suit. The real goal of all this is to make people so servile and robotic that the cattle prods in their now endless forms become almost unnecessary. Unquestioning compliance alone will keep the sheep in the pen.

The principle they are using is the same as that used on laboratory mice or rats. You keep shocking them when they take a route in the maze you don't want and in the end they avoid those routes even without being shocked.

This is where the true significance of the wheelie bin bugging can be appreciated. Think of all the times every day you are told what to do, either directly or by a sign of some kind. Think of all the times you are aware of the consequences of not complying with authority, for instance always watching for traffic cameras in case you go slightly over the limit, or the fear of authority that now pervades every airport. Imagine what driving will be like when your speed and location is constantly tracked from space wherever you are. Think of how many times you watch what you say because it might upset some authority or breach the ludicrous limits set by political correctness.

Now, be careful and aware of the consequences from authority if you don't throw out the rubbish in the 'right' way.

What all this does, and there are endless more examples, is to make people consciously and subconsciously aware of authority and fear not doing as they are told. As this happens more and more often in ever greater areas of our lives, there comes a point, different for each person, where they reach the stage of unquestioning, unthinking, acquiescence. They no longer need a shock, in other words.

In 1932, Aldous Huxley wrote in the way-ahead-of-its-time, Brave New World, that the infiltration of the mind by the state would continue through suggestion until ...

'... at last the child's mind is these suggestions, and the sum of the suggestions is the child's mind. And not the child's mind only. The adult's mind too - all his life long. The mind that judges and desires and decides - made up of these suggestions. But all these suggestions are our suggestions ... Suggestions from the State.'


The goal is to subjugate the human mind to follow a pattern of response every bit as extreme as the laboratory rat walking round the maze without needing external intervention about which way to go. Unthinking acquiescence sums up this state of 'mind' - the comfort zone where conformity = comfort. An Internet article I saw this week put it all very well:

'The reconstruction of your consciousness into this automaton thing is being executed in such a manner that it goes virtually undetected; in fact you are doing it to yourself and don't even know it. Why with the proper incentive, you're doing it to yourself and just love it - look at all the "stuff" you have. You're so comfortable you have become passive, submissive, and you don't even have to think. You just go with the flow. It feels good and quite natural running on automatic.

However, disrupt your automatic mental state with even the simplest of problems - like misplacing your keys or wallet - and life becomes a living hell in your mind until you find those keys or wallet to re-establish your habitual routine. This becomes true of any little problem in life. You want it resolved as fast as possible, to stop the mental frustration, torment and confusion. You have become so addicted to living life under the control of others that even small annoyances become stressful events in your life.'

How do we avoid such programmed conformity? Simple: we don't conform and we don't pressure others to do so - our children, friends or workmates. We celebrate diversity of thought and lifestyle instead of condemning it.

Nor do we accept the impositions of the State, like microchipped wheelie bins or whatever. Tom Seaman, a Wiltshire farmer, urged residents to protest by unscrewing the bugs from the bins and sending them back to the council. He said:

'This is a disgraceful backdoor policy. Monitoring devices have been secretly installed without a word of consultation or information. People should not damage council property but send these things back to their rightful owners and demand an explanation.'

What would happen if everyone, or significant numbers, did that? The policy would be unenforceable and it would have to stop. When enough people refused to pay Margaret Thatcher's deeply unfair 'Poll Tax' in the late 1980s the government had to throw it out.

WE have the power, but only if we choose to use it.

The creeping, step-by-step suffocation of our freedom through the Totalitarian Tiptoe will only be stopped when we decide to stop it - when we stand for what is right instead of jeering from across the street while not actually getting involved in action.

It really is choice time. We can sit and moan or we can stand and deliver. We can take our freedom back from the fascists or we can follow this fella ...

Hardly a choice is it?
Uit :nieuwsbrief David Icke

zo waar:

WE have the power, but only if we choose to use it. WE have the power, but only if we choose to use it. WE have the power, but only if we choose to use it. WE have the power, but only if we choose to use it. WE have the power, but only if we choose to use it. WE have the power, but only if we choose to use it. WE have the power, but only if we choose to use it. WE have the power, but only if we choose to use it. WE have the power, but only if we choose to use it. WE have the power, but only if we choose to use it. WE have the power, but only if we choose to use it. WE have the power, but only if we choose to use it. WE have the power, but only if we choose to use it. WE have the power, but only if we choose to use it. WE have the power, but only if we choose to use it.

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Ik heb ontdekt dat veel kinderprogramma's door de illuminati gebruikt worden om de kinderen te indoctrineren.Dus wel degelijk een verborgen
politieke agenda. De kinderen zijn de toekomst. toch?

Wat dacht je van teletubbies? Onschuldig? hmm
Wat dacht je van die 'zon'
en de tekens op hun hoofden zijn hyperspace tekens!
En als je ze zou ontcijferen, weet je dat ze via deze tekens
'communiceren' met de kinderen

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LOL ...

Oe gaat da NWO gedoe ier eindigen begod...
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LOL ...

Oe gaat da NWO gedoe ier eindigen begod...
Ja sorry, mijn schuld.
Ik wilde K3 gebruiken om aan te tonen hoe belachelijk dit soort beschuldigingen is tegen bijvoorbeeld Madonna, David Bowie, Star Trek, Star Wars etc.

Maar ja, we zijn nu al aanbeland bij de teletubbies... ooo-oooh!
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Ja sorry, mijn schuld.
Ik wilde K3 gebruiken om aan te tonen hoe belachelijk dit soort beschuldigingen is tegen bijvoorbeeld Madonna, David Bowie, Star Trek, Star Wars etc.

Maar ja, we zijn nu al aanbeland bij de teletubbies... ooo-oooh!
Morgen leggen we uit hoe deze

zeer gevaarlijke prent de aanleiding is tot het schaapgedrag van de mensen op deze planeet...
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Als ik zoiets lees..

http://www.nieuwsblad.be/Article/Det...MF08092006_096

..moet ik altijd aan die uitspraak denken:

"De mensen struikelen nu en dan over de waarheid, maar de meesten krabbelen haastig overeind en lopen snel door alsof er niets was gebeurd." - Winston Churchill
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eh nee, dit is geen grap!!!! __/CHIPs AND BINs\__ door DavidIckes' site


Juist, ook op diverse UK-newssites is volgende info te vinden:


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Microchips capable of assessing the weight of rubbish thrown out by each household have been quietly fitted to thousands of
wheelie bins,
it emerged yesterday. A string of local councils have distributed bins that can transmit information to a
central database about the disposal practices of individual families.


The penny-sized microchips, first revealed by the Guardian in February, are placed in the lip of the bin and can be scanned
as it is tipped into a dustcart to allow council officials to assess how many bins their refuse collectors have emptied, and
to tell them apart in case of neighbour disputes. But the technology could be used more fully in the future. Some dustcarts
contain weighing equipment which can then link this information to the amount of rubbish collected from each owner.

Earlier this month, the environment minister Ben Bradshaw warned that people could one day be forced to pay for the amount
of rubbish they produce. The environment secretary, David Miliband, has said he is "interested" in variable waste charging,
where the polluter is made to pay.

zie meer op The Guardian


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HOUSEHOLDS across Bournemouth have taken their new wheelie bins to bits following revelations they have been secretly tagged.

Now the council is warning curious householders who remove the "passive" computer chips that they could pick up a £28 bill
for a replacement bin.


The borough's recycling champion, Cllr John Hayter, said yesterday: "We would ask that the public does not take apart or
tamper with their bins and would remind householders that it is their responsibility to ensure their bins are in a fit state
to be emptied
.

"If, in future, we are unable to empty bins because the chip has been deliberately tampered with it would then be necessary
to replace the bin, which would normally be at the householders' expense at a cost of £28."


The warning came after one civic leader called for an inquiry into why councillors, as well as the public, had been kept in
the dark over the tagging scheme.


The borough's strategic manager street services, Michael Moon, revealed that installing chips on the 70,000 new wheelie bins
delivered to Bournemouth households had cost the council, and ultimately local council tax payers, about £84,000 (£1.20 for
each bin).


He added: "The cost to fit these once the bins have been delivered is much higher and logistically difficult to do. We do
not have a planned date for using the new system
.

"Any decision to use this technology will involve elected members and residents will be made aware through local media and
the Bournemouth Journal."


Mr Moon said all the new 140-litre small bins contained a passive chip. The old 240-litre bins and the bulk flat bins do not contain a chip.

"The chip contains a serial number which links each bin to the property
it's been allocated to. If and when we have the
technology installed on our vehicles it will be used to collect the date and time the bin was emptied and the weight of the bin. That's all.

"We are obliged to collect this information by the government. It will only record the serial number of the bins emptied and
will not register anything about the contents of the bin."


The Daily Echo has been inundated with calls from readers who have removed the computer chips from their bins.

After receiving a flood of phone calls, Cllr Ron Whittaker said: "A number of residents have already removed chips from
their bins and clearly more intend to."

One Winton man is among those who removed the device. "So much for democracy and open debate," he said.

meer op http://www.thisisbournemouth.co.uk/d...their_lids.php

Deze maatregel werd niet voorafgaandelijk aan diverse politici en zeker niet aan de burgers meegedeeld. Mooi en heel mooi dat.
Op het eerste zicht: deze operatie om volgende redenen:



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Put simply, the UK is being told that by 2010 the amount of biodegradable municipal waste sent to landfill must be 75%
of that sent in 1995; by 2013 it must be 50% and by 2020 down to 35%.
To meet the 2010 target we will need to be recycling at
least 40% of our waste, says Defra. In 2004/05, the average recycling rate stood at just 23%. Local authorities are now
becoming increasingly zealous - desperate even - about getting us to recycle more of our rubbish. There's increasing talk
of "rubbish police" patrolling our streets and wheelie bins being weighed so that wasteful offenders can be punished.


zie ook The Guardian

Onze goederen worden met steeds diverser en geavanceerder materiaal verpakt. Ipv het ontwikkelen en stimuleren van een onderzoek en een langdurig project om efficiënter te gaan recycleren, gaan ze de Britten taxeren.

Testcase "Introduction of the microchip in our behavioural disposal industry" ?!
Testsite UK?! (Sommigen van) jullie weten wel waarom..


Die artikels op Davind Ickes site blijken toch steeds weer meer dan boeiend.
Knowledge is more than knowning....
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Als ik zoiets lees..

http://www.nieuwsblad.be/Article/Det...MF08092006_096

..moet ik altijd aan die uitspraak denken:

"De mensen struikelen nu en dan over de waarheid, maar de meesten krabbelen haastig overeind en lopen snel door alsof er niets was gebeurd." - Winston Churchill

Wanneer ik volgende quote van Jay Rockefeller IV lees ben ik op mijn hoede:

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,,De regering heeft de inlichtingen niet gebruikt zoals ze dat had moeten doen, (met name) de beslissers informeren. De regeringsverantwoordelijken hebben veel eerder geselecteerd, opgeschroefd of inlichtingen stil gelaten om de beslissing te verrechtvaardigen die zij hadden genomen om ten strijde te trekken tegen Irak'', zei de nummer twee van de Senaatscommissie, de Democraat John Rockefeller.

Het schijnt een goede en nuchtere uitspraak te zijn.
Maar ik vergeet niet wie de Rockefellers zijn en wat ze zoal geforceerd hebben.
'Schijn kan bedriegen'
'Vandaag A zeggen, en morgen B: zolang het in mijn voordeel werkt'.
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Oud 9 september 2006, 01:02   #8873
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Ey , ik moet hier bakken betalen. 200 pages !!!!
PM me dudes

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Oud 9 september 2006, 03:56   #8874
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zo ziet het beest eruit:

Naam: 19200611bintags.jpg
Bekeken: 256
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zoem eens in op de foto:

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Oud 9 september 2006, 04:13   #8875
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Morgen leggen we uit hoe deze

zeer gevaarlijke prent de aanleiding is tot het schaapgedrag van de mensen op deze planeet...
ge moest eens weten, no shit, en ik heb het niet persé op dit prentje, ma maakt nie uit, er zijn meer mensen nodig als gij, het zou nie goed zijn als iedereen wist. Er zijn teveel mensen op deze planeet, ge moet ergens van kunnen pluimen he.
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zo ziet het beest eruit:

Bijlage 13047


zoem eens in op de foto:
Bedankt voor je mooie bijdrage!


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Ja sorry, mijn schuld.
Ik wilde K3 gebruiken om aan te tonen hoe belachelijk dit soort beschuldigingen is tegen bijvoorbeeld Madonna, David Bowie, Star Trek, Star Wars etc.

Maar ja, we zijn nu al aanbeland bij de teletubbies... ooo-oooh!

Het is wel heel makkeljjk om het te ridiculseren he?
Ik zet het er niet op omdat ik het leuk vind
Maar denk eens na, hoe zou jij kleine kinderen conditioneren en
indoctrineren?
En je zei het nb zelf! Men mag zich niet verschuilen achter de
zogenaamde 'onschuld'

Nuff Said

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Oud 9 september 2006, 08:50   #8878
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Bin Laden Tape Betrays 'Phony Hijacker' Contradiction

Target is "U.S. home audience," as with fake Al-Zarqawi propaganda campaign, to reinforce 9/11 myth as 5th anniversary nears

Paul Joseph Watson/Prison Planet.com | September 8 2006

A new tape showing Osama Bin Laden meeting with September 11 hijackers days before the attack has served to boost the Bush administration's war on terror agenda as the fifth anniversary of 9/11 nears, yet one of the hijackers who appears in the tape is reported elsewhere as still alive and completely unconnected to the terror plot.

The tape purports to show Bin Laden meeting with alleged 9/11 hijackers Wail Alshehri and Hamza Alghamdi days before the attack in Afghanistan.

After reports emerged that some of the named hijackers were still alive the FBI quickly changed its story to claim that some of the hijackers had stolen the identities of other individuals. Innocent people who saw their photograph amongst the 19 terrorists complained to their embassies yet the same mug shots are still used to this day and the FBI has made no effort to revise the list.

Telling therefore it is that Wail Alshehri was one of the accused hijackers reported by the L.A. Times to still be alive and protesting his innocence in Saudi Arabia after 9/11.

So how can Alshehri appear in a tape meeting with Bin Laden when he had no involvement with the plot whatsoever and is presumably still alive today? Does the Alshehri in the videotape look similar to the innocent Alshehri who was framed for the attacks? Why does the mainstream media refuse to even ask these questions, instead just blithely relaying the propaganda?

Furthermore, the other alleged hijacker in the tape, Hamza Alghamdi's original mug shot as it appeared on the splash of 19 hijackers bore, "no resemblance" to the real Hamza Alghamdi - according to his own father after being informed of his son's involvement in the attack. The Hamza Alghamdi in the new video does appear to be the same individual in the FBI's mug shot parade. As with at least seven of the hijackers, it seems that there are two of each one, and the ones that appear in the tapes are patsies or dupes.

This is by no means a stretch when we recall that many of the hijackers were trained at secure U.S. government air bases and that the FBI had its own informants living with them.

The credibility of the tape is not helped by the fact that a companion tape allegedly showing Abu Hamza al-Muhajir - who is being sold as the new Al-Qaeda frontman in Iraq - urging Iraqis to join with insurgents - contradicts reports that were picked up by Al-Jazeera itself, that al-Muhajir has been incarcerated in an Egyptian jail cell for the past seven years.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles...nladentape.htm


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Oud 9 september 2006, 09:32   #8879
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Daar hebben we de "levende kapers" weer!

Hoe kritiekloos moet men niet zijn als men in dat idioot verhaal nog gelooft.

Tien minuten onderzoek volstaan nochtans om uit te maken dat geen van de 19 kapers ooit nog ergens is opgedoken. Wel enkele homoniemen, die echter bij het publiceren van de foto's van de 19 kapers konden zien dat zij niet de verdachten waren.

Zelfs dit is echter voor sommige believers te moeilijk om zelf na te trekken.

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Je hoeft me niet te geloven maar het is toch zo. Ik probeer weldegelijk te volgen wat jullie aanprijzen. Dat ik er zeer kritisch tegenover sta is een andere zaak.
Welke werken van Cooper heb je gelezen?

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In het kader daarvan: Ik heb deze theorie losgelaten op K3 en dit is een sluitende redenering. Leg me nu eens uit waarom jullie dit riducuul vinden en dezelfde beweringen over o.a. Madonna, David Bowie, Star Trek niet?

Alleen omdat K3 vlaams is en onschuldig? Omdat het daarom onwaarschijnlijk is?
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