RECLAIMING HISTORY The Assassination of President John F. Kennedy.

[Gun]

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Firestone > exodus, 2004gun en al de rest.

exodus tegen firestone: "Baaah, jij staat niet open voor andere theorieën! Hier, bekijk deze video die door pubers met teveel vrije tijd in elkaar gestoken is!"

firestone: "ga je dat boek lezen dat een ander standpunt dan het jouwe verdedigt?"

exodus: "nee zu. wat denkte wel."

Iémand is bang dat zijn theorietjes onderuit gehaald zullen worden, en het is niet Firestone.

Omdat mijn naam wordt vernoemd antwoord ik op deze post ...

Waar moet ik bang voor zijn?

[democratsteve]

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Ongetwijfeld zullen de conspirationisten nu op dit boek schieten: "shill", "cover-up", enz ...
Ze zullen ook proberen de auteur te discrediteren.

Je bedoelt; zoals JIJ altijd doet bij de 9/11-sceptici?
Serieus, geef me eens één goeie reden waarom we Bugliosi's werk over Kennedy wél zouden moeten geloven en de andere auteurs, die het tegenovergestelde beweren, niet?
Het valt op dat iedere auteur die jou tegenspreekt in het conspiracyhoekje wordt geduwd, maar dat tegelijkertijd elke auteur die uw versie onderschrijft ontsnapt aan uw "kritisch vermogen".

[Gun]

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Je bedoelt; zoals JIJ altijd doet bij de 9/11-sceptici?
Serieus, geef me eens één goeie reden waarom we Bugliosi's werk over Kennedy wél zouden moeten geloven en de andere auteurs, die het tegenovergestelde beweren, niet?
Het valt op dat iedere auteur die jou tegenspreekt in het conspiracyhoekje wordt geduwd, maar dat tegelijkertijd elke auteur die uw versie onderschrijft ontsnapt aan uw "kritisch vermogen".

Stone is op verlof, Boston, Toronto, e.d. 't Kan ff duren voor je een antwoord krijgt als jij er uberhaupt één krijgt

[Gun]

Op 4 juni tekent President John F. Kennedy (35ste president van de VS van 1961 tot 1963) Executive Order 11110 wat de U.S. opnieuw de mogelijkheid geeft om hun eigen geld te beheren zonder te moeten passeren via de door Rothschilds gecontroleerde Federal Reserve

Minder dan 6 maand later, op 22 november wordt president John F. Kennedy vermoord door de Rothschilds voor dezelfde reden als ze president Abraham Lincoln in 1865 hebben vermoord, hij wilde de macht van het drukken van geld opnieuw aan de Amerikanen geven

Op de terugvlucht van Dallas naar Washington DC met Air Force One schrapt president Lyndon Baines Johnson (36ste president van de VS van 1963 tot 1969) Executive Order 11110, dezelfde dag dat Kennedy is vermoord

Een andere reden voor de moord is het feit dat hij David Ben-Gurion duidelijk heeft gemaakt dat onder geen enkel beding Israël een nucleaire macht zou worden

De Israëlische krant Ha'aretz meldt op 5 Februari 1999 in een verslag over “Israel and the Bomb”, een boek van Avner Cohen

The murder of American President John F. Kennedy brought to an abrupt end the massive pressure being applied by the US administration on the government of Israel to discontinue the nuclear program ... The book implied that, had Kennedy remained alive, it is doubtful whether Israel would today have a nuclear option

[Firestone]

Open een eigen thread voor jouw stupiede anti-Joodse obsessies.
Deze thread gaat over het boek van Bugliosi.

Wat je schrijft over Executive orde 11110 is overigens (en zoals gebruikelijk bij jou) klinkklare onzin. Hier wat uitleg voor de geïnteresseerde lezer. Discussies hierover gebeuren best in een andere thread die over Gun's fantasieën gaat.

[Gun]

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Open een eigen thread voor jouw stupiede anti-Joodse obsessies.
Deze thread gaat over het boek van Bugliosi.

Wat je schrijft over Executive orde 11110 is overigens (en zoals gebruikelijk bij jou) klinkklare onzin. Hier wat uitleg voor de geïnteresseerde lezer. Discussies hierover gebeuren best in een andere thread die over Gun's fantasieën gaat.

Doe maar an Firestone ...

Deze draad gaat over J.F. Kennedy "RECLAIMING HISTORY The Assassination of President John F. Kennedy." je hebt hem verdomd zelf gestart en deze titel gegeven.

Enige vorm van kritiek op één of andere persoon of familie wordt door jou onmiddellijk als anti-joods bestempeld

Ik ben geen jodenhater, zoals reeds gemeld heb ik er een aantal binnen mijn nauwe vriendenkring, maar ik neem inderdaad geen hand voor mijn mond wanneer ik kritische bedenkingen uit over personen die per ongeluk joods zijn, de kritiek heeft trouwens niets te maken met hun afkomst, in dit geval Ashkenazi joods, wel met hun daden.

Arme Firestone

[Firestone]

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Doe maar an Firestone ...

Deze draad gaat over J.F. Kennedy "RECLAIMING HISTORY The Assassination of President John F. Kennedy." je hebt hem verdomd zelf gestart en deze titel gegeven.

Enige vorm van kritiek op één of andere persoon of familie wordt door jou onmiddellijk als anti-joods bestempeld

Ik ben geen jodenhater, zoals reeds gemeld heb ik er een aantal binnen mijn nauwe vriendenkring, maar ik neem inderdaad geen hand voor mijn mond wanneer ik kritische bedenkingen uit over personen die per ongeluk joods zijn, de kritiek heeft trouwens niets te maken met hun afkomst, in dit geval Ashkenazi joods, wel met hun daden.

Arme Firestone

Je maakt niemand wat wijs hoor.

Jij post helemaal geen kritiek, maar totaal uit de lucht gegrepen beschuldigingen en smerige insinuaties. Nooit post je het minste bewijs voor deze beschuldigingen en smerige insinuaties. Wanneer je al concrete feiten vermeldt, zoals hierboven EO 11110, blijkt dat ze absoluut nergens op slaan.

Jij hebt hier threads volgeschreven waar je de Joden van zowat alles wat er fout loopt op de wereld van beschuldigt. Dat verzin ik niet, dat staat gewoon op dit forum te lezen. Uiteraard nooit met het minste bewijs, alléén maar beschuldigingen en smerige insinuaties.

Je herhaalt kritiekloos de oeroude sprookjes die de antisemieten vertelden over de Joden, later door de nazi's overgenomen, en nu door jou en anderen op dit forum herhaald, soms met de doorzichtige substitie Jood-->Zionist.

Nogmaals: deze thread gaat over het boek van Bugliosi, niet over jouw idiote, afgezaagde en van haat vervulde sprookjes.
De NWO-thread zal met plezier jouw schrijfsels huisvesten. Hier hebben ze niets te zoeken.

EDIT: en verder laat ik het wat dit betreft hierbij. Op jouw ongefundeerde beschuldigingen en smerige insinuaties ingaan is immers zinloos. Wie ze wil geloven zal het doen, ongeacht de tegenargumenten. En rationele mensen hebben deze haatpropaganda al lang doorzien voor wat ze is.

[Gun]

Lees de Ha'aretz van 5 Februari 1999 of beter “Israel and the Bomb” van Avner Cohen

This was a difficult book for Avner Cohen to write. As an Israeli, he had to break the code of silence that surrounds the discussion of nuclear weapons in his homeland. But he has done a superb job of laying out the political history of Israel's nuclear program from its foundation in 1950 through the acceptance by the United States of Israel as a nuclear-weapon state in 1970. Cohen has achieved the impossible. With ''Israel and the Bomb,'' he has written a scholarly treatise that includes over 1,200 footnotes, yet reads like a novel

Lawrence Kolb, New York Times Book Review

A scholarly treatise that includes over 1,200 footnotes, yet reads like a novel. . . . [Cohen] analyzes in rich detail how this policy of 'nuclear opacity' evolved and what made it possible

Michael Rubner, Middle East Policy

Israel and the Bombshould be required reading for those interested in nuclear issues in general and in the complexities of the American-Israeli relationship in particular. For American decision makers, the book should serve as an invaluable case-study of how not to deal with future instances of nuclear proliferation

Choice

This important volume deserves the attention of Middle East scholars and students of foreign policy, nuclear proliferation, and Israeli politics.

Tom Segev, Ha'aretz

Cohen's work will necessitate the rewriting of Israel's history, wars, international relations, domestic political crises, economy, psychology, national pride--everything will have to be viewed in a different light.

Miami Herald

For anyone interested in the never-ending struggles in the Middle East and life on the edge in the nuclear age, this book is a must-read.

Paul C. Warnke, former Assistant Secretary of Defense

A compelling and comprehensive account of the development of what he calls Israel’s doctrine of 'nuclear opacity.

Dan Ephron, Washington Times

Cohen's book hits nations sensitivity.

Uri Bar-Joseph, Jewish History

... Avner Cohen's book stands in a class of its own. It is the first scholarly study of the history of this project, it is richly documented, and it unveils some of the major mysteries surrounding events by tapping a large body of previously untouched sources ... It can only be assumed that when this national mood of 'nuclear' ignorance changes, Cohen's book will serve as a solid foundation for this debate.

Spurgeon Keeny, President and Executive Director, The Arms Control Association

This impeccably documented history of the first two decades of the Israeli nuclear program illuminates the complex domestic and international forces that shaped the activity and gives the reader fascinating insight into the thinking of Israeli, French, and U.S. leaders on the uniquely sensitive subject that only a few participants were fully aware of at the time.

Samuel W. Lewis, U.S. Ambassador to Israel (1977-1985)

This is an extraordinarily important book. Cohen has produced an amazing piece of historical scholarship on a subject deliberately shrouded in clouds of misdirection, for legitimate raisons d’etat, by both Israeli and American governments.

Carl Kaysen, former deputy national security advisor to JFK

Cohen lays out as fully as now possible the intricate interplay of domestic politics in Tel Aviv/Jerusalem, Paris, and Washington with the diplomatic interaction of the three countries, formal and informal, that shaped the path of Israel’s nuclear program. An unmatched and indispensable contribution to understanding our nuclear age, the lessons of Israel and the Bomb have renewed salience in the context of the movement of more nations into the nuclear club.

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Avner Cohen

Avner Cohen is writer, historian, and professor, and is well known for his works on nuclear weapons. Cohen received a B.A. in Philosophy from Tel Aviv University in 1975. He went on to study at York University where he received a M.A. in Philosophy in 1977 and four years later earned a Ph.D. from the University of Chicago in the History of Culture. After these studies he embarked on an academic career, returning to Tel Aviv University in 1983 to join the department of philosophy. He went on to hold positions at M.I.T., Harvard and is presently affiliated with the University of Maryland, College Park.

Cohen has researched various issues with regard to nuclear weapons, including deterrence, morality, and proliferation. His seminal work, Israel and the Bomb, which chronicled the Israeli nuclear program, was published in 1998. This book prompted him to encounter problems with the Israeli censor and provoked substantial legal difficulties upon his return to Israel to give a keynote speech at an academic conference.

[Firestone]

Jouw citaten bewijzen niks ivm met de moord op JFK.

Bovendien zwijg je over jouw EO 11110 leugens.

Anyway, hier bevindt zich de speciale thread voor ongefundeerde beweringen, smerige insinuaties, Protocollen, zever over eeuwigdurende complotten en gezaag over Joden/Zionisten/Vrijmetselaars en andere reptielen.

Deze thread gaat over het boek van Bugliosi.
Een boek dat je dringend eens zou moeten lezen.

[Gun]

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Bovendien zwijg je over jouw EO 11110 leugens.

Lees dit ...
http://www.earthnews.net/articles/thefederalreserve.htm

John F. Kennedy vs The Federal Reserve

On June 4, 1963, a virtually unknown Presidential decree, Executive Order 11110, was signed with the authority to basically strip the Federal Reserve Bank of its power to loan money to the United States Federal Government at interest. With the stroke of a pen, President Kennedy declared that the privately owned Federal Reserve Bank would soon be out of business. The Christian Law Fellowship has exhaustively researched this matter through the Federal Register and Library of Congress. We can now safely conclude that this Executive Order has never been repealed, amended, or superceded by any subsequent Executive Order. In simple terms, it is still valid.

When President John Fitzgerald Kennedy - the author of Profiles in Courage -signed this Order, it returned to the federal government, specifically the Treasury Department, the Constitutional power to create and issue currency -money - without going through the privately owned Federal Reserve Bank. President Kennedy's Executive Order 11110 [the full text is displayed further below] gave the Treasury Department the explicit authority: "to issue silver certificates against any silver bullion, silver, or standard silver dollars in the Treasury." This means that for every ounce of silver in the U.S. Treasury's vault, the government could introduce new money into circulation based on the silver bullion physically held there. As a result, more than $4 billion in United States Notes were brought into circulation in $2 and $5 denominations. $10 and $20 United States Notes were never circulated but were being printed by the Treasury Department when Kennedy was assassinated. It appears obvious that President Kennedy knew the Federal Reserve Notes being used as the purported legal currency were contrary to the Constitution of the United States of America.

"United States Notes" were issued as an interest-free and debt-free currency backed by silver reserves in the U.S. Treasury. We compared a "Federal Reserve Note" issued from the private central bank of the United States (the Federal Reserve Bank a/k/a Federal Reserve System), with a "United States Note" from the U.S. Treasury issued by President Kennedy's Executive Order. They almost look alike, except one says "Federal Reserve Note" on the top while the other says "United States Note". Also, the Federal Reserve Note has a green seal and serial number while the United States Note has a red seal and serial number.

President Kennedy was assassinated on November 22, 1963 and the United States Notes he had issued were immediately taken out of circulation. Federal Reserve Notes continued to serve as the legal currency of the nation. According to the United States Secret Service, 99% of all U.S. paper "currency" circulating in 1999 are Federal Reserve Notes.

Kennedy knew that if the silver-backed United States Notes were widely circulated, they would have eliminated the demand for Federal Reserve Notes. This is a very simple matter of economics. The USN was backed by silver and the FRN was not backed by anything of intrinsic value. Executive Order 11110 should have prevented the national debt from reaching its current level (virtually all of the nearly $9 trillion in federal debt has been created since 1963) if LBJ or any subsequent President were to enforce it. It would have almost immediately given the U.S. Government the ability to repay its debt without going to the private Federal Reserve Banks and being charged interest to create new "money". Executive Order 11110 gave the U.S.A. the ability to, once again, create its own money backed by silver and realm value worth something.

Again, according to our own research, just five months after Kennedy was assassinated, no more of the Series 1958 "Silver Certificates" were issued either, and they were subsequently removed from circulation. Perhaps the assassination of JFK was a warning to all future presidents not to interfere with the private Federal Reserve's control over the creation of money. It seems very apparent that President Kennedy challenged the "powers that exist behind U.S. and world finance". With true patriotic courage, JFK boldly faced the two most successful vehicles that have ever been used to drive up debt:

1) war (Viet Nam); and,

2) the creation of money by a privately owned central bank. His efforts to have all U.S. troops out of Vietnam by 1965 combined with Executive Order 11110 would have destroyed the profits and control of the private Federal Reserve Bank.

Executive Order 11110

AMENDMENT OF EXECUTIVE ORDER NO. 10289 AS AMENDED, RELATING TO THE PERFORMANCE OF CERTAIN FUNCTIONS AFFECTING THE DEPARTMENT OF THE TREASURY. By virtue of the authority vested in me by section 301 of title 3 of the United States Code, it is ordered as follows:

1. Executive Order No. 10289 of September 19, 1951, as amended, is hereby further amended - (a) By adding at the end of paragraph 1 thereof the following subparagraph (j): "(j) The authority vested in the President by paragraph (b) of section 43 of the Act of May 12, 1933, as amended (31 U.S.C. 821 (b)), to issue silver certificates against any silver bullion, silver, or standard silver dollars in the Treasury not then held for redemption of any outstanding silver certificates, to prescribe the denominations of such silver certificates, and to coin standard silver dollars and subsidiary silver currency for their redemption," and (b) By revoking subparagraphs (b) and (c) of paragraph 2 thereof.

SECTION 2. The amendment made by this Order shall not affect any act done, or any right accruing or accrued or any suit or proceeding had or commenced in any civil or criminal cause prior to the date of this Order but all such liabilities shall continue and may be enforced as if said amendments had not been made.

JOHN F. KENNEDY THE WHITE HOUSE, June 4, 1963

[Firestone]

Een zoveelste bewijs dat discussies met conspirationisten zinloos zijn.
Een bewering herhalen bewijst niets.

Jouw zever over EO 11110 slaat nergens op, zoals ik hierboven al schreef, met een link voor geïnteresseereden waar jouw zever genadeloos ontkracht wordt. Je moet het uiteraard wel lezen.

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Firestone

Wat je schrijft over Executive orde 11110 is overigens (en zoals gebruikelijk bij jou) klinkklare onzin. Hier wat uitleg voor de geïnteresseerde lezer. Discussies hierover gebeuren best in een andere thread die over Gun's fantasieën gaat.

Bovendien loog je toen je schreef: "Op de terugvlucht van Dallas naar Washington DC met Air Force One schrapt president Lyndon Baines Johnson (36ste president van de VS van 1963 tot 1969) Executive Order 11110, dezelfde dag dat Kennedy is vermoord."

[exodus]

Waar de conspiracy bashers fout zitten..

What JFK Conspiracy Bashers Get Wrong



As the 44th anniversary of the assassination of President John F. Kennedy approaches, you may get caught up in an eruption of the perennial and sometimes tedious conspiracy debate. You want to keep an open mind and make sure you don't fall for any JFK assassination myths. You can, for example, say with confidence that a lot of the crazy JFK conspiracy scenarios have been debunked over the years. No, neither the KGB, the Masons, the Mossad, nor the Red Chinese were behind the gunfire that killed the liberal statesman. No, Abraham Zapruder's famous home movie assassination was not secretly altered to hide evidence of a conspiracy. And, no, the legendary three tramps photographed that day did not whack Jack. They were just a trio of homeless guys in the wrong place at the wrong time.

But no sooner were these fables dispatched by scrupulous JFK researchers, than public discourse on the JFK story was engulfed by a new set of assertions imbued with an anti-conspiratorial animus that is also unhinged from the historical record. These too need the truth squad treatment.

Myth #1 JFK conspiratorial suspicions, like the idea of a gunshot from the so-called grassy knoll, were ginned up after the fact by demagogues like Oliver Stone.
In fact, a significant minority of eyewitnesses at the scene of the crime thought at least one of the gunshots that hit Kennedy came from the knoll, which was actually a grassy embankment bordering a parking lot overlooking the route of JFK's motorcade through downtown Dallas. A survey of eyewitness statements, compiled by conspiracy skeptic John McAdams of Marquette University, found that 42 of 103 bystanders said that the gunfire came from the knoll or from two different directions. To be sure, a larger number said that shots came from a high window of the Texas School Book Depository. And yes, the parking lot on the knoll was searched within minutes and no gunman or ballistic debris was found. And, yes, ear witness testimony is notoriously unreliable.
The fact remains that more than 30 people in the vicinity of Kennedy's limousine--including Dallas sheriff Bill Decker, Secret Service agent Roy Kellerman and a presidential aide David Powers--independently said that they thought a gunshot came from the knoll. Within a week of the crime, pollsters found 62 percent of respondents nationwide said they thought two or more people were responsible. In Dallas, the figure was 66 percent.


Myth #2: JFK conspiracy theories are mostly held by anti-American leftists and credulous liberals.

Try telling that to Bruce Willis. "They still haven't caught the guy that killed [President] Kennedy," the leading Republican in Hollywood told Vanity Fair last spring. Willis was merely voicing a view that has long circulated on the American right. In September 1964, Warren Commission member Senator Richard Russell, a paleoconservative from Georgia, rejected the so-called single bullet theory and attempted to put a dissent into the commission's final report (only to be slapped down by liberal Chief Justice Earl Warren.) By the late 1960s, conservative figures ranging from former congresswoman Clare Booth Luce to columnist William F. Buckley to Nixon White House chief of staff H.R. Haldeman dissented publicly or privately from the Warren report. Mary Ferrell, one of the best-informed JFK researchers, was so adamantly opposed to legal abortion that she told friends that she never voted for a Democrat after 1980. Today, the best JFK assassination Web site, MaryFerrell.org, is named after her.


Myth #3: No reputable historian believes in a JFK conspiracy
Wrong. I know of four tenured academic historians who have written directly on the JFK assassination in the past five years. Three of them (Gerald McKnight of Hood College, David Wrone of the University of Wisconsin-Steven Points, Michael Kurtz of Southeast Louisiana University) came to conspiratorial conclusions, while one (Robert Dallek of UCLA) vouched for the lone gunman theory. A forthcoming book by Naval War College historian David Kaiser on Kennedy's Cuba policy and the assassination, to be published by Harvard University Press next year, is likely to demolish this myth once and for all. (Full disclosure: Kaiser is a friend and the book will cite my JFK reporting.)


Myth #4: Serious people of power in Washington overwhelmingly believe there was no conspiracy.
Hardly. The slain president's own brother Bobby Kennedy was, in the words of journalist David Talbot, "America's first conspiracy theorist." He and First Lady Jackie Kennedy quickly concluded that JFK was the victim of a major domestic plot. Lyndon Johnson suspected that the assassination resulted from the struggle for power in Cuba. Richard Nixon hounded the CIA for files on "the whole Bay of Pigs thing," which his aides understood to mean Kennedy's assassination. George H.W. Bush, upon becoming CIA director in 1976 immediately asked for the JFK assassination file, not exactly the action of someone who thought he knew the whole story. Bill Clinton and Al Gore both said publicly in 1992 that they believed there had been a conspiracy. (Once in office, Clinton recanted.) George W. Bush, to be sure, is a firm believer in the lone nut theory. But, when it comes to providing credible explanations of U.S. intelligence failures that culminated in national catastrophe, Bush's track record is not reassuring.

Myth #5. Scientists unequivocally support the lone gunman theory.
The latest peer-reviewed articles indicate otherwise. One piece of scientific analysis, "bullet lead analysis," that was long used to buttress the so-called "single bullet" theory has been decisively debunked, as a recent front page series in the Washington Post shows. A study of the JFK ballistics evidence, published in the Journal of Forensic Science in 2006, concluded that its findings "considerably weaken support for the single-bullet theory." A pair of articles on the medical evidence, published in Neurosurgery in 2004, offered a split decision. One supported the official story; the other provided strong evidence based on sworn testimony from multiple eyewitnesses that the photographic record of JFK's autopsy has been tampered with. The-called acoustic evidence a Dallas Police Department radio recording that some scientists say contains evidence of a shot from the grassy knoll has been called into question but not refuted by other scientists. The issue remains unresolved. My own review of the crime scene evidence, published this month on Playboy.com, concludes that the scientific case for Oswald's sole guilt has been weakened in recent years.


Myth #6: There is nothing significant to be found in the new JFK files identified since Oliver Stone's JFK
Depends on how closely you care to look. The long suppressed CIA records made public since the 1990s certainly do not confirm Stone's depiction of the assassination as a virtual coup d'etat by the CIA and the Pentagon but they do raise new questions about the Dallas tragedy. They demonstrate that a handful of top CIA officials had much greater knowledge of Oswald's travels and political activities in the weeks before Kennedy was killed than they ever let on. At least one of these operatives-- an undercover officer named George Joannides--remained quiet about what he knew of Oswald's Cuban contacts to perhaps a criminal extent.


As I reported in the Huffington Post, CIA attorneys appeared in federal court on last month seeking to block release of dozens of secret records on Joannides's actions in 1963. At the time Joannides served in Miami as the chief of psychological warfare operations aimed at overthrowing Fidel Castro. The CIA argues that release of any portion of more than 30 documents about Joannides--some of them 45 years old-- would harm U.S. national security and foreign policy in 2007. Don't take my word that these records are significant. Just ask the CIA's lawyers.
When you strip away all the tall tales of JFK's assassination, the unsatisfying and infuriating truth is that we still don't have the full story. And that's no myth.

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Hier nogmaals een link naar de excellente docu "JFK II: The bush connection".

http://video.google.nl/videoplay?doc...arch&plindex=0

JFK II is an incredible documentary film that totally destroys any notion of Lee Harvey Oswald being responsible for the murder of President John F. Kennedy. Packed with original and new footage, JFK II provides strong clues as to who was really behind the assassination.

This examination of the evidence is meticulous and well-documented. JFK II is a criminal indictment of George Herbert Walker Bush and establishes beyond a reasonable doubt his guilt as a supervisor in the conspiracy to assassinate John F. Kennedy.

[Hertog van Gelre]

Als je zo gaat speculeren verbaast het me dat nog niemand Onassis als dader noemt, tóch iemand die er duidelijk belang bij had. Maar ja, niet zo NWO hé?
Niet dat ik denk dat hij erachter zit.

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Als je zo gaat speculeren verbaast het me dat nog niemand Onassis als dader noemt, tóch iemand die er duidelijk belang bij had. Maar ja, niet zo NWO hé?
Niet dat ik denk dat hij erachter zit.

Bekijke de video eerst eens, evalueer zelf de feiten die gepresenteerd worden en geef dan nog eens je mening...

[Hertog van Gelre]

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Bekijke de video eerst eens, evalueer zelf de feiten die gepresenteerd worden en geef dan nog eens je mening...

Ouwe koek, Exodus.

Vanaf mijn jeugd heb ik heel veel 'Kennedy-oplossingen' gezien en gehoord. Totdat het tegendeel is bewezen is het L.H.Oswald.

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Ouwe koek, Exodus.

Vanaf mijn jeugd heb ik heel veel 'Kennedy-oplossingen' gezien en gehoord. Totdat het tegendeel is bewezen is het L.H.Oswald.

Kijk, je hebt volgens mij naar alle waarschijnlijkheid die documentaire nog niet bekeken. Je reageert vanuit een vooroordeel. Bekijk eerst eens de film en evalueer de feiten voor jezelf. Het klinkt misschien overdreven omdat er staat dat George H.W Bush ermee te maken heeft maar de feiten die aangebracht worden tonen dit redelijk aan.

Je hoeft deze film niet te bekijken, maar dan moet je ook geen veroordelende uitspraken doen.

Het is een zeer goeie documentaire, gebalanceerd gebracht en zeker geen overdreven conspiracy film wat jij misschien denkt dat het is. Je kan het pas weten indien je hem bekeken hebt.

Moest je hem alsnog bekijken zou ik graag eens je mening erover horen.

Hier het begin van een review van Amazon:

Factually Accurate and Brilliant Analysis

It is my pleasure to recommend the works of John Hankey: "JFK II: The Bush Connection" and "The Assassination of JFK Jr." My perspective in evaluating JFK II is as a Harvard-educated, National Board Certified social studies teacher with 23 years experience. From the approximately 100 media sources I use to teach high school US History, my students report that JFK II is among the top few for clarity, impact, and importance. John Hankey has my highest praise for his contribution to our understanding of one of the most significant events in United States history. JFK II shows incisive understanding of broad historical events, then communicates the essential elements through engaging media. Importantly, JFK's information is documented from independently verifiable sources that demonstrate the professional scholarship we want all of our students to learn. This work resonates with intellectual strength, moral integrity, and courage to state the documented truth so boldly. To be clear, I cannot overstate the power and contribution of JFK II to understand the assassination of President Kennedy. This includes evidence linking former CIA Director and President G.H.W. Bush to the assassination and extends to our present "war on terror" and rhetoric for war with Iran from the current President Bush.

I encourage everyone to view this important documentary, including high school students.

[Hertog van Gelre]

Weet je, Exodus, omdat jij het vraagt zal ik weer eens zo'n documentaire bekijken maar de samenvatting beloofde al niet veel goeds.

[Gun]

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Weet je, Exodus, omdat jij het vraagt zal ik weer eens zo'n documentaire bekijken maar de samenvatting beloofde al niet veel goeds.

Na het bekijken van deze footage is er geen enkele rechtgeaarde persoon die nog gelooft dat Lee Harvey Oswald solo slim heeft gespeeld

[Hertog van Gelre]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Gun

Na het bekijken van deze footage is er geen enkele rechtgeaarde persoon die nog gelooft dat Lee Harvey Oswald solo slim heeft gespeeld

Het spijt me, Gun, maar ik ga in dit verband te lang mee om nog ergens van onder de indruk te raken. Ik heb tientallen 'daders/organisaties' de revue zien passeren. Als de verhalen een beetje degelijk waren toonden ze soms de diverse motieven aannemelijk aan. In een kleiner aantal gevallen werd ook de gelegenheid voldoende onderbouwd. In geen van die verhalen, ik herhaal: in géén van die verhalen werd ook maar enigzins bewijs aangehaald.

En ik zal het je schenken: Het Kennedy-verhaal stinkt. Maar er is geen spoor van het geringste bewijs dat anderen dan Oswald de dader zijn.