Belgische Luchtmacht doodt dozijnen Afghanen...

[Dajjal]

Een dozijn ?

Janetten.

De Amerikanen hebben er al minstens 1000 keer zo veel afgemaakt.

Blijven trainen...

[Valentine Julien]

http://www.partiantisioniste.com/com...interieur.html

[Valentine Julien]

misschien is dit een idee voor belgie / europa?

De trouw aan de eed bewaarders

http://www.indymedia.be/nl/node/33222

Dit is bijna onrealistisch en een onthutsend verhaal .....
De burgers in de VS zijn ernstig in gevaar met hun eigen fascistische regering.
Een advokaat startte de Oath Keepers beweging die snel groeit...
De getuigenissen van de officieren en het snelle groeien van de beweging zegt boekdelen.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iWsz9zSI64&NR=1

De tien orders die wij niet zullen opvolgen!:

- we zullen geen bezittingen en /of wapens af pakken van de burgers
- we zullen geen burgers in een concentratiekamp steken...
- we zullen geen troepenmacht vanuit het buitenland ondersteunen.......
- we zullen geen eigen burgers oppakken als "gevaarlijke vijandige binnenlandse strijders" .... (zie de Home Terrorisme Act)
........

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zf2K4...eature=related

[BladeToke]

de Belgische luchtmacht heeft al the times gehaald.
POSITIEF
omdat ze ervoor kozen 2 afghanen neer te schieten met hun boordgeschut in plaats van ze te bombarderen
die 2 afghanen waren explosieven aan het plaatsen.
nadien gingen de britten deze ontmijnen en de brug was nog bruikbaar.

[Vorenus]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door BladeToke

de Belgische luchtmacht heeft al the times gehaald.
POSITIEF
omdat ze ervoor kozen 2 afghanen neer te schieten met hun boordgeschut in plaats van ze te bombarderen
die 2 afghanen waren explosieven aan het plaatsen.
nadien gingen de britten deze ontmijnen en de brug was nog bruikbaar.

Belgische piloten worden dan ook beschouwd als één van de beste in de wereld.

[Svennies]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Vorenus

Belgische piloten worden dan ook beschouwd als één van de beste in de wereld.

Zeg maar de beste aangezien zij vrijwel jaar na jaar tijdens de gezamelijke oefeningen in de VS zélf met de F16 squadrons in natoverband er tacktisch gezien zowel offensief als defensief er telkens weer met kop en schouders bovenuit steken....

[Johan Bollen]

Tom engelhard's mening over het bombardement van Bala Baluk (heeft niets met de belgische luchtmacht te maken voor zover ik weet trouwens)

As Taliban attacks in Afghanistan rise and that loose guerrilla force (more like a coalition of various Islamist, tribal, warlord, and criminal groups) spreads into new areas, the American air war in Afghanistan continues to take a heavy toll on Afghan civilians, while manufacturing ever more enemies as well as deep resentment and protest in that country. The latest such incident, possibly the worst since the Taliban was defeated in 2001, involves the deaths of up to 147 Afghans in the Bala Baluk district of Farah province, according to accounts that have come out of the villages attacked.
Up to 95 of the dead were under 18, one Afghan lawmaker involved in investigating the incident claims, and up to 65 of them women or girls. These deaths came after Americans were called into an escalating fight between the Taliban and Afghan police and military units, and in turn, called in devastating air strikes by two US jets and a B-1 bomber (which, villagers claim, hit them after the Taliban fighters had left).

Despite American pledges to own up to and apologize more quickly for civilian deaths, the post-carnage events followed a predictable stonewalling pattern, including a begrudging step-by-step retreat in the face of independent claims and reports.

The Americans first denied that anything much had happened; then claimed that they had killed mainly Taliban "militants"; then that the Taliban had themselves used grenades to kill most of the civilians (a charge later partially withdrawn as "thinly sourced"); and finally, that the numbers of Afghan dead were "extremely over-exaggerated", and that the urge for payment from the Afghan government might be partially responsible.

An investigation, as always, was launched that never seems to end, while the Americans wait for the story to fade from view. As of this moment, while still awaiting the results of a "very exhaustive" investigation, American spokesmen nonetheless claim that only 20-30 civilians died along with up to 65 Taliban insurgents. In these years, however, the record tells us that, when weighing the stories offered by surviving villagers and those of American officials, believe the villagers. Put more bluntly, in such situations, we lie, they die.

Two things make this "incident" at Bala Baluk more striking. First of all, according to Jerome Starkey of the British Independent, another Rumsfeld creation, the US Marines Corps Special Operations Command (MarSOC), the Marines' version of JSOC, was centrally involved, as it had been in two other major civilian slaughters, one near Jalalabad in 2007 (committed by a MarSOC unit that dubbed itself "Taskforce Violence"), the second in 2008 at the village of Azizabad in Herat Province. McChrystal's appointment, reports Starkey, has "prompted speculation that [similar] commando counterinsurgency missions will increase in the battle to beat the Taliban".

Second, back in Washington, National Security Advisor James Jones and head of the Joint Chiefs Admiral Mike Mullen, fretting about civilian casualties in Afghanistan and faced with President Karzai's repeated pleas to cease air attacks on Afghan villages, nonetheless refused to consider the possibility. Both, in fact, used the same image. As Jones told ABC's George Stephanopoulos: "Well, I think he understands that ... we have to have the full complement of ... our offensive military power when we need it ... We can't fight with one hand tied behind our back ...".

In a world in which the US is the military equivalent of the multi-armed Hindu god Shiva, this is one of the truly strange, if long-lasting, American images. It was, for instance, used by president George H W Bush on the eve of the first Gulf War. "No hands," he said, "are going to be tied behind backs. This is not a Vietnam."

Forgetting the levels of firepower loosed in Vietnam, the image itself is abidingly odd. After all, in everyday speech, the challenge "I could beat you with one hand tied behind my back" is a bravado offer of voluntary restraint and an implicit admission that fighting any other way would make one a bully. So hidden in the image, both when the elder Bush used it and today, is a most un-American acceptance of the United States as a bully nation, about to be restrained by no one, least of all itself.

Apologize or stonewall, one thing remains certain: the air war will continue and so civilians will continue to die. The idea that the US might actually be better off with one "hand" tied behind its back is now so alien to us as to be beyond serious consideration.

[liberalist_NL]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Dajjal

Een dozijn ?

Janetten.

De Amerikanen hebben er al minstens 1000 keer zo veel afgemaakt.

Blijven trainen...

De Belgen gaan eerst in debat met hun vijand natuurlijk, en nemen het bijpassende wafelijzer mee.

[Derk de Tweede]

[willem1940NLD]

Ik denk dat onze uitleen-troepen al die tijd al volop en vooral: volledig bewapend aan ieder type oorlogshandelingen voluit deelnemen, zij het buiten de nieuwsvoorzieningen om; zoniet, dan waren wij keer op keer met een szebrenicza-achtig incident geconfronteerd.