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Oud 23 maart 2008, 14:36   #861
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en even een paar stukkken over de huidige , ahum. wetenschap
(ter controle)

Even in stukjes gehakt zodat vooral de 'wetenschappers' het kunnen behappen, maar ben er bang voor.

bron komt na laatse stukje.


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“ …Any group that wanted to control the future of American society had first to control education i.e., the population of the future … it all began at Yale…” …

Anthony B. Sutton
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The control over our lives is hard for the average man on the street to fathom. Every facet of our existence … our government, financial institutions, big business, the news we receive through the media … is today controlled by the top members of secret societies and their pals. This could not have been accomplished without the most important control of all … control of our education system.

The ink was hardly dry on the Constitution before the planned takeover of America’s higher education was implemented. By the mid-1960’s the invisible government had total control of all education in our company. To fully understand why it’s almost impossible to open the minds of those around you as to the true makeup of our planet we must first understand how the secret societies manipulated and stifled scientific study worldwide.
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The One Worlders (illuminati) had controlled the European schools for centuries. And likewise, the “freedom” seeking people who had immigrated to America had to be controlled. Experience and common sense had taught them that the best way to control society was by controlling their educational system.
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In the mid 1800s these young men, all members of the Order, were sent to Europe to study philosophy at the University of Berlin. There they studied under Wilhelm Wundt (University of Berlin – Institute of Physiology). Wundt was the founder of experimental psychology in Germany and “the later source of the dozens of Ph.D. who came back from Leipzig, Germany to start the modern American education movement.” (Sutton, Page 3).

Wilhelm Wundt was a proponent of the Hegelian philosophical ideas. He used the Hegelian theory as his starting point i.e. “The State is superior to the Individual.”

As I have stated in past reports, in order to control the population the first step is to control the movement of the people. The mass exodus to America after Columbus let the cat out of the bag could not, according to the controllers, happen again. The secret of the existence of uncontaminated tropical lands and advanced alien civilizations inside our globe must be hidden at all cost. Control of the advancement of scientific knowledge was necessary.
This was accomplished in several interlocking ways. First, the take-over of the Sheffield Scientific School at Yale. After returning from Europe Daniel Coit Gilman spent the next 14 years “in and around Yale, consolidating the power of the Order.”

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According to Sutton:

“His first task in 1856 was to incorporate Skull & Bones as a legal entity under the name of The Russell Trust. Gilman became Treasurer and William H. Russell, the co-founder, became President. It is notable to note that there is no mention of the Order, Skull & bones, the Russell Trust, or any secret society activity in Gilman’s biography, nor in open records. The Order, so far as its members are concerned, is designed to be secret … The Order has been remarkably adept at keeping it’s secret. The Order fills the first requirement for a conspiracy – IT IS SECRET.”

(Pages 6-7)



“The Sheffield Scientific School, the science departments at Yale, exemplifies the way in which the Order came to Control Yale and then [all of the higher educational institutions of] the United States.

“In the early 1850s, Yale science was insignificant, just two or three very small departments. In 1861 these were concentrated into the Sheffield Scientific School with private funds from Joseph E. Sheffield. [Daniel Coit] Gilman went to work to raise more funds for expansion.

“Gilman’s brother had married the daughter of Chemistry Professor Benjamin Silliman. [A member of the Order since 1837.] This brought Gilman into contact with Professor Dana, also a member of the Silliman family, and this group decided that Gilman should write a report on reorganization of Sheffield. This was done and entitled “Proposed Plan for the Complete Reorganization of the School of Science Connected with Yale Collage.”

(Page 7).
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The second move in the plan was to control the way that scientific information was handled. Up until the 1600s those people who were inquisitive would study closely their chosen subject and conduct experiments in order to reach conclusions. The controllers realized that science had to have rigid controls placed on it or people would discover not only, the true makeup of our planet, but many other things that the secret societies though the uninitiated should not know.

The plan was to stifle scientific knowledge and then twist what was left to fit the science they wanted the people to believe. They accomplished this by adopting new rules in regards to scientific research. As F.L. Borshke reported in The Unexplained: The Unknown World in Which We Live (1975):

“It would be hard to say just when the stifling mass production of “science” really began. The only thing we know for certain is the name of the man who coined the rousting slogan, “We must measure that what can be measured and find a way you measure what can not be measured.” This man was the Italian, Galileo Galilei, and he turned science in a new direction.”

(Pages 1)

This “yardstick approach” to science has worked just as intended. Physic abilities, paranormal experiences, UFOs etc. cannot be measured so therefore they do not exist. The interior of the word also cannot be measured so any theory is just that … a theory. This includes the accepted theory. This presented a small problem to the controllers. They needed everyone to accept their theory concerning the makeup of our earth’s interior even though it goes against their own rule of scientific acceptability. Of course they had an answer to this problem.

“The science we learn in school is simple and orderly and contains no contradictions. We learn a system of rules and laws we believe are accurate and basic”

(Page 1) F.L. Boschke, The Unexplained
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After reading the above evidence you may ask, but could it be true that the Illuminati, or any other group could actually change the true knowledge about science? According to Pat Robertson in his best selling book The New World Order (1991) in a speech given to the Reason Foundation in Los Angeles in April 1990, White House official, James Pinkerton, deputy assistant for policy planning to the Bush administration said,

“If the last decade will be remembered as the time when the New Deal model broke down, I believe this decade will be remembered when a new order for the age was established, not only in the U.S., but around the world … Because of [President George Bush’s] policies America stands at the horizon, ready drawing of the New Paradigm around the world.”

“Pinkerton credited his use of the term new paradigm to Thomas Kuhn’s The Structure of Scientific Revolutions – which chronicles historical readjustments of scientific thinking about the world.”

(Pages 44-45)

“…Readjustments of scientific thinking,” food for thought.

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.In addition our schoolbooks never admit doubt. You never read in our textbooks such phrases as; “it is the theory of.” Or “the speculation is,” etc. No, everything in the establishment printed “science” books is presented as known facts. Nothing could be further from the truth. Here are a few examples.
If you were in school learning about the earth in 1955 and read The Crust of The Earth: a popular introduction to geology, you might have been assigned to read a chapter entitled X-Raying The Earth by Reginald A. Daly:

“One of the outstanding seismological discoveries of recent years is the shelled character of our planet. At the center, and outward to a little more that one-half of its radius, the earth is homogeneous in high degree. Successive shells or layers of material surround this so-called “core”. Each shell, out to a level about thirty miles from the surface, is relatively homogeneous, and it’s material differs from that of the shell above or below, as well as from the material of the center core. The contacts between the shells and between the deepest shell and core are technically called “discontinuities.”

(When I first read this in the late 50s I visualized the earth as being a giant jawbreaker). As we can see this is written as hard fact. No where does it mention or even hint that this is not fact, but the accepted theory of the time.

By the 70s the theory had changed and in the popular Bantam Science book Exploring the Planets (1973) we find:

“The internal structure of the Earth has been investigated by observing the effect that passage through the Earth has on shock waves from explosions and earthquakes. The Earth is believed to have a dense metallic core of radius 2,100 miles thick, surrounding which is a layer of heavy rock some 1,800 miles thick, decreasing in density outward. On top of this lies the lighter crust, less the 50 miles thick. Life depends upon the few feet of soil on the top of this…”

Except for the small weak “the Earth is believed’ at the beginning of the report this appears to be written as fact. Those students reading this popular science book of the period would conceive the planet as having three layers, a 2,100 thick core; an 1,800 mile thick mantle; and a crust of “less that 50 miles thick.” To them this is fact.

A student of the 80s might have turned to Webster’s Family Encyclopedia. After all, if it’s in the Encyclopedia it must be true.

Under “Earth” we find

“ …The earth consists of an inner core of solid iron, surrounded by an outer core of molten iron. Surrounding this is a solid mantle, inner and outer, which is separated from the crust by the Mohorovicic Discontinuity.”

Once again, no mention that this is only theory.

Is it any wonder people look at us like we’re crazy if we inject the possibility of subterranean civilizations into the conversation. After all, “Any science book will tell you…”
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The Ph.D. Factor

The next step in controlling the sciences was to institute the Ph.D. factor. If you didn’t go to a “recognized” school of higher learning and “earn” you doctorate then your ideas and opinions as regards to science would not be recognized.

In other words, if you hadn’t learned the accepted rhetoric then your views have no value.

Besides control of education the Illuminati had another trick up their sleeves. During the early 1800s, a period they loudly and proudly claimed was the “Age of Enlightenment,” the world-wide controllers set out to destroy the will of the average man to explore on his own … and it seems to have worked. Other than those advances connected with the secret alien technology “trade-off," everything we use today is merely an improvement on devices invented in the 1800s and early 1900s. How was this form of individualism discouraged and destroyed?

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.With the control of science in their hands, and the discouragement of seeking new findings they took it a step further. Next, the Robber Baron flunkies of the Illuminati used their ill-gotten gains, under the guise of philanthropy, to establish “Foundations” and “Societies” such as the National Geographical Society and the Smithsonian Institute “for the increase and diffusion of knowledge among men,” but in reality to help cover-up and hide away anything that doesn’t fit the accepted theories.

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Rene’ Noorbergen in his 1977 book Secrets of the Lost Races tells of a young name who claimed to have seen Noah’s petrified body hidden away in the Smithsonian. David Hatcher Childress in his 1992 book, Lost Cities of North & Central America tells of a whole shipload of artifacts that were “scientifically incorrect” being taken out to sea and dumped overboard!

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And then there is the story of G. E. Kinkard who found an underground city in the Grand Canyon overflowing with strange artifacts, which he turned over to the Smithsonian. What happened to these and other unexplained archaeological finds that has disappeared into the dusty underground storage vaults of the Smithsonian?
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As for National Geographic … the Peary polar scam, a direct insult to those who realize the shape of our planet. Need I say more?
Den Bron:http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/so...erhoodss19.htm


Vind U nu de 'wetenschap" nog steeds 'gezond"?



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Ik heb het hier al eerder gezet, maar als je hier echt verder in wil spitten,
kan je het volgende boek lezen:





The Ascendancy of the Scientific Dictatorship

Hier online:

Part One: Illuminating the Occult Origin of Darwinism
http://www.biped.info/articles/collins1.html

Part Two: Science Fiction and the Sirius Connection
http://www.biped.info/articles/collins2.html

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Zéér interessant !
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Part Two: Science Fiction and the Sirius Connection
http://www.biped.info/articles/collins2.html

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Goh, het artikel i.v.m. Wells staat tjokvol fouten. Wat een verrassing.
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Goh, het artikel i.v.m. Wells staat tjokvol fouten. Wat een verrassing.

goed argument goed argument!


Pfff

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Den Bron:http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/so...erhoodss19.htm

Vind U nu de 'wetenschap" nog steeds 'gezond"?

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Het enige wat je hier dag na dag bewijst is dat je niet begrijpt wat wetenschap is.

Daarom zijn die zielige copy/paste stukjes het (aandachtig) lezen en antwoorden niet eens waard, Pindabot.

Kan je nu nooit met een deftig argument afkomen?
Waarom blijf jij eigenlijk hangen op een dergelijk marginaal niveau?

In feite doe jij mij zeer sterk denken aan een kleuter die denkt en beweert dat hij superman is, maar die er nog niet in slaagt om zijn fruitpap zonder morsen naar binnen te werken.
Enkel andere kleuters trappen in die smoes.
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Juist!

We creeren onze wereld met ons bewustzijn!

En daarom:

Collectief hebben we een slachtofferbewustzijn en dus trekken we onderdrukkers aan,
de illuminati! Zouden we collectief ons slachtofferbewustzijn van ons afschudden,
hoep, weg illuminati, verdwenen uit onze gedachtenpatronen.




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Inderdaad, willen of niet, we zijn deel van het geheel. Meer en meer mensen worden wakker en de duistere krachten, om ze zo te noemen, proberen hun grip meer en meer te verstevigen, met behulp van fake terrorisme etc.

Ze hebben een groot aandeel erin zoveel mogelijk zielen in de invloedssfeer van deze materiele wereld te houden.
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Ik heb het hier al eerder gezet, maar als je hier echt verder in wil spitten,
kan je het volgende boek lezen:





The Ascendancy of the Scientific Dictatorship

Hier online:

Part One: Illuminating the Occult Origin of Darwinism
http://www.biped.info/articles/collins1.html

Part Two: Science Fiction and the Sirius Connection
http://www.biped.info/articles/collins2.html

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Dit is niet het boek maar zijn twee (goede) artikels die met het boek gepaard gaan. Het is wel eenz eer goed boek, een ogen-openener. Maar wel zeer hard voor diegene die emotioneel vastgehecht zijn aan de wetenschap. Zij zullen zich wellicht afzetten tegen de gepresenteerde uitleg.
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Dit is niet het boek maar zijn twee (goede) artikels die met het boek gepaard gaan. Het is wel eenz eer goed boek, een ogen-openener. Maar wel zeer hard voor diegene die emotioneel vastgehecht zijn aan de wetenschap. Zij zullen het boek wellicht afzetten tegen de gepresenteerde uitleg.

idd niet goed gezien dat het de artikelen zijn, bedankt Exodus.

Overigens heb ik gisteren een herdruk gezien en die is twee keer zo dik!

Met veel nieuwe informatie



http://www.amazon.com/Ascendancy-Sci.../dp/1419639323

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helemaal mee eens!

Ik vind dat je altijd kritsich moet blijven.
Let wel, kritisch, niet sceptisch, da's gewoon een ziekte!


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Dus je geeft toe dat je ziek bent. Goed zo Pindar! Dat is de eerste stap!
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Dus je geeft toe dat je ziek bent. Goed zo Pindar! Dat is de eerste stap!
Nee, waarom?


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