Wordt gestraft door God voor mannen en vrouwen in het graf?

[harriechristus]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Piero

Beste Harrie, zonder intelligentie is de mens geen mens evenmin als de mens bestaat zonder genen. De mens berust dus op genen?

De genen zijn geproduceerd door de microwezentjes.
Dus de intelligentie is het meest essentieel.

Er bestaat geen maatschappij zonder mensen. Berust de maatschappij dan op mensen en intelligentie en genen?

Zo is het. En in ons lichaam zijn dat de microwezentjes.

Je moet geen analogie maken met iets dat naar zichzelf verwijst.

Ik verwijs naar de intelligentie die ook in ons lichaam werkzaam moet zijn, net als in onze maatschappij.
Je vergeet dus datgene waar het om gaat.

Waarom is functioneren met intelligentie niet vanzelf functioneren?

Omdat intelligentie bewust functioneert bij mensen en niet automatisch. De mens is geen automaat.

Die intelligentie hoort toch bij het zelf?

Zeker, maar vanzelf is iets anders dan het bewuste zelf.
Vanzelf is bewusteloos zoals de natuurwetten bewusteloos werken.

Sofisme Harrie. Zowel theoretisch als empirisch niet aantoonbaar.

Je begrijpt er duidelijk helemaal niks van.
En je bent zelf sofistisch bezig door de microwezentjes weg te laten en ten tweede het zelf voor twee verschillende betekenissen te gebruiken.

Theoretisch zeer goed te bewijzen.

Maar dan moet je wel de moeite nemen na te denken en eerst even begrijpen wat ik schrijf.

ONZE MAATSCHAPPIJ EN DE MICROKOSMOS
De wetenschap kan niet verklaren hoe domme atomen een evolutie van miljarden jaren en miljoenen soorten heeft kunnen scheppen en ook niet hoe deze atomen ons lichaam en onze hersenen zo subliem kunnen doen functioneren.
Onze maatschappij beweegt ook niet vanzelf, maar berust op onze intelligentie en zo ben ik ben mening dat ook de microkosmos van ons lichaam een hogere wereld is, die ook niet vanzelf beweegt, maar op de intelligentie berust van hogere microwezens.
Dat wil zeggen: wat bij ons ook niet vanzelf gaat, gaat in de microkosmos ook niet vanzelf.
En vooral omdat ons lichaam nog veel en veel ingewikkelder in elkaar zit dan onze eigen wereld.
Ons lichaam wordt ook wel met een staat vergeleken, waarbij onze hersenen de regering zijn en onze zenuwen met communicatie-lijnen en onze aderen met wegen, enzovoort.
En ik denk dus dat het werkelijk zo is, namelijk dat ons lichaam een staat op zichzelf is, die bewoond wordt door microwezens, die in de atomen als ruimteschepen wonen.
En hiermede is de werking van ons lichaam afdoende verklaard, volgens het principe : zo als het bij ons is, zo is het ook in de microkosmos.

1 - Toeval is de slechtste verklaring.

2 - Beter is dat de natuur zelf doelgericht is, dus in het scheppen en ontwikkelen van het leven even logisch is als de natuurwetten.

3 - Maar nog beter is dat het leven bewust is geschapen en geëvolueerd door de microwezentjes.

[revoleto]

No my dear brothers

allah says in the Holy Qur'an

(33) We know that you, [O Muhammad], are saddened by what they say. And indeed, they do not call you untruthful, but it is the verses of Allah that the wrongdoers reject. Add new comment
(34) And certainly were messengers denied before you, but they were patient over [the effects of] denial, and they were harmed until Our victory came to them. And none can alter the words of Allah . And there has certainly come to you some information about the [previous] messengers. Add new comment
(35) And if their evasion is difficult for you, then if you are able to seek a tunnel into the earth or a stairway into the sky to bring them a sign, [then do so]. But if Allah had willed, He would have united them upon guidance. So never be of the ignorant. Add new comment


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrZ3-...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nj3H9-rVC5k

[Supe®Staaf]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door revoleto

allah says in the Holy Qur'an

Is de Qur'an dan geschreven door Allah?

[Bobke]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Supe®Staaf

Is de Qur'an dan geschreven door Allah?

Die is geschreven door iemand die het gezien heeft van horen zeggen.
Allah vond blijkbaar niemand die kon schrijven om zijn wetten te dicteren.

[Schelfie]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Supe®Staaf

Is de Qur'an dan geschreven door Allah?

Nog wel door een vent met epileptische aanvallen. Verklaart misschien de hallucinaties en de onzin die je in de koran vindt...

[revoleto]

Holy Qur'an revealed to Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him by the Messenger of revelation Gabriel peace be upon him

In 23 years

Remember Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him the Holy Qur'an
And see the re-Qur'an recitations twice before his death
The pinnacle of his friends, God bless them

Completed conservation and companions in the life of the Holy Qur'an the Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him

And completed companions conservation Holy Qur'an
In the life of the Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him

That the Almighty will take care of himself save it from any distortion of the previous divine books such as


God says in the Holy Qur'an

(9) Indeed, it is We who sent down the Qur'an and indeed, We will be its guardian

(42) Falsehood cannot approach it from before it or from behind it; [it is] a revelation from a [Lord who is] Wise and Praiseworthy


- The Holy Spirit in Islam
Is the angel Gabriel peace be upon him - the Messenger of revelation from God to all the prophets from the beginning of Adam to Muhammad, peace be upon them all and peace
- Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him in the period of prophecy saw the angel Jibril, peace be upon him
On the whole, form the real only twice
"(But the Prophet saw Gabriel in his true form twice." (Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 6, Book 60, Number 378)
-And once he came Jibril peace be upon him as a man wearing white clothes very clean and he does not have any signs or signs of that strange or passengers
To the Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him
At that time, sitting with his friends
Jibril, peace be upon him asked questions of the Prophet Mohammad peace be upon him in the council
For (faith - Islam – charity(Ihsan))
- Islam = to see that there is no God but Allah and that Muhammad is the Messenger of God - Prayer - Zakat - Fasting - Hajj
Faith = belief in one God and the angels and the heavenly books and all the Apostles, as well as fatalism, whether good or evil, and faith on the resurrection after death
- = is to worship allah as you see allah and if you do not see allah, allah see you
- Ihsan
After the departure of Gabriel peace be upon him of the Council
Said Sahaba of the Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him
who this man?
The Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him said
This Jibril came to teach you things your religion

(1) By the star when it descends
(2) Your companion [Muhammad] has not strayed, nor has he erred
(3) Nor does he speak from [his own] inclination
(4) It is not but a revelation revealed
(5) Taught to him by one intense in strength
(6) One of soundness. And he rose to [his] true for
(7) While he was in the higher [part of the] horizon
(8) Then he approached and descende
(9) And was at a distance of two bow lengths or nearer
(10) And he revealed to His Servant what he revealed
(11) The heart did not lie [about] what it saw
(12) So will you dispute with him over what he saw
(13) And he certainly saw him in another descen
(14) At the Lote Tree of the Utmost Boundary
(15) Near it is the Garden of Refuge

[Supe®Staaf]

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Holy Qur'an revealed to Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him by the Messenger of revelation Gabriel peace be upon him

In 23 years

Remember Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him the Holy Qur'an
And see the re-Qur'an recitations twice before his death
The pinnacle of his friends, God bless them

Completed conservation and companions in the life of the Holy Qur'an the Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him

And completed companions conservation Holy Qur'an
In the life of the Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him

That the Almighty will take care of himself save it from any distortion of the previous divine books such as


God says in the Holy Qur'an

(9) Indeed, it is We who sent down the Qur'an and indeed, We will be its guardian

(42) Falsehood cannot approach it from before it or from behind it; [it is] a revelation from a [Lord who is] Wise and Praiseworthy


- The Holy Spirit in Islam
Is the angel Gabriel peace be upon him - the Messenger of revelation from God to all the prophets from the beginning of Adam to Muhammad, peace be upon them all and peace
- Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him in the period of prophecy saw the angel Jibril, peace be upon him
On the whole, form the real only twice
"(But the Prophet saw Gabriel in his true form twice." (Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 6, Book 60, Number 378)
-And once he came Jibril peace be upon him as a man wearing white clothes very clean and he does not have any signs or signs of that strange or passengers
To the Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him
At that time, sitting with his friends
Jibril, peace be upon him asked questions of the Prophet Mohammad peace be upon him in the council
For (faith - Islam – charity(Ihsan))
- Islam = to see that there is no God but Allah and that Muhammad is the Messenger of God - Prayer - Zakat - Fasting - Hajj
Faith = belief in one God and the angels and the heavenly books and all the Apostles, as well as fatalism, whether good or evil, and faith on the resurrection after death
- = is to worship allah as you see allah and if you do not see allah, allah see you
- Ihsan
After the departure of Gabriel peace be upon him of the Council
Said Sahaba of the Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him
who this man?
The Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him said
This Jibril came to teach you things your religion

(1) By the star when it descends
(2) Your companion [Muhammad] has not strayed, nor has he erred
(3) Nor does he speak from [his own] inclination
(4) It is not but a revelation revealed
(5) Taught to him by one intense in strength
(6) One of soundness. And he rose to [his] true for
(7) While he was in the higher [part of the] horizon
(8) Then he approached and descende
(9) And was at a distance of two bow lengths or nearer
(10) And he revealed to His Servant what he revealed
(11) The heart did not lie [about] what it saw
(12) So will you dispute with him over what he saw
(13) And he certainly saw him in another descen
(14) At the Lote Tree of the Utmost Boundary
(15) Near it is the Garden of Refuge

En waarom gelooft ge dat klakkeloos?

[Piero]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door revoleto

Holy Qur'an revealed to Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him by the Messenger of revelation Gabriel peace be upon him

In 23 years

Remember Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him the Holy Qur'an
And see the re-Qur'an recitations twice before his death
The pinnacle of his friends, God bless them

Completed conservation and companions in the life of the Holy Qur'an the Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him

And completed companions conservation Holy Qur'an
In the life of the Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him

That the Almighty will take care of himself save it from any distortion of the previous divine books such as


God says in the Holy Qur'an

(9) Indeed, it is We who sent down the Qur'an and indeed, We will be its guardian

(42) Falsehood cannot approach it from before it or from behind it; [it is] a revelation from a [Lord who is] Wise and Praiseworthy


- The Holy Spirit in Islam
Is the angel Gabriel peace be upon him - the Messenger of revelation from God to all the prophets from the beginning of Adam to Muhammad, peace be upon them all and peace
- Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him in the period of prophecy saw the angel Jibril, peace be upon him
On the whole, form the real only twice
"(But the Prophet saw Gabriel in his true form twice." (Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 6, Book 60, Number 378)
-And once he came Jibril peace be upon him as a man wearing white clothes very clean and he does not have any signs or signs of that strange or passengers
To the Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him
At that time, sitting with his friends
Jibril, peace be upon him asked questions of the Prophet Mohammad peace be upon him in the council
For (faith - Islam – charity(Ihsan))
- Islam = to see that there is no God but Allah and that Muhammad is the Messenger of God - Prayer - Zakat - Fasting - Hajj
Faith = belief in one God and the angels and the heavenly books and all the Apostles, as well as fatalism, whether good or evil, and faith on the resurrection after death
- = is to worship allah as you see allah and if you do not see allah, allah see you
- Ihsan
After the departure of Gabriel peace be upon him of the Council
Said Sahaba of the Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him
who this man?
The Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him said
This Jibril came to teach you things your religion

'peace be upon him' is a magic spell to propitiate the demons?

[Schelfie]

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En waarom gelooft ge dat klakkeloos?

The Koran tells me so!

[Rizzz]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door revoleto

No my dear brothers

allah says in the Holy Qur'an

(33) We know that you, [O Muhammad], are saddened by what they say. And indeed, they do not call you untruthful, but it is the verses of Allah that the wrongdoers reject. Add new comment
(34) And certainly were messengers denied before you, but they were patient over [the effects of] denial, and they were harmed until Our victory came to them. And none can alter the words of Allah . And there has certainly come to you some information about the [previous] messengers. Add new comment
(35) And if their evasion is difficult for you, then if you are able to seek a tunnel into the earth or a stairway into the sky to bring them a sign, [then do so]. But if Allah had willed, He would have united them upon guidance. So never be of the ignorant. Add new comment


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrZ3-...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nj3H9-rVC5k

My poor naive muslim friend,

Deep down you know you cannot give us undeniable proof that the words you quote from that book came from god himself, in fact you cannot even give us the slightest piece of evidence.
Deep down you know these words could be nothing more than a creation of man's imagination.
And as you cannot give us undeniable proof the words in this book are god's words, any argument you give us starting as above "allah says in the Holy Qur'an ..." is a non-argument. For you will first need to provide us with that undeniable proof before you can expect us to accept such statements as arguments.

[Supe®Staaf]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Schelfie

The Koran tells me so!

Het Laatste Nieuws zegt me nog wat anders, evenals de Flair, de Libelle Roswhita, etc. etc.
Allemaal boekskes, en nog eens boekskes vol zever, vol onzin,.....
Waarom zou die Qu'oran anders zijn?
Ik zie geen reden.

[Schelfie]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Supe®Staaf

Het Laatste Nieuws zegt me nog wat anders, evenals de Flair, de Libelle Roswhita, etc. etc.
Allemaal boekskes, en nog eens boekskes vol zever, vol onzin,.....
Waarom zou die Qu'oran anders zijn?
Ik zie geen reden.

Volgens mij is er geen andere verklaring om dat gezever te geloven...

[Supe®Staaf]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Schelfie

Volgens mij is er geen andere verklaring om dat gezever te geloven...

Gij weet het.
Ik weet het.
Hier en daar weten het er nog een paar.
Maar toch loopt er nog een hele klad achterlijken rond die het niet willen weten.
Ofwel doen ze het om ons op de kloten te werken.
Dan zou ik er nog kunnen mee lachen.

[revoleto]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJZmh...feature=relmfu