US meer en meer overgenomen door zionisten en joodse fundi's?

liesl · 5 december 2004, 18:45

waar men al zo lang voor had gevreesd

hopelijk kan men nog tijdig ingrijpen... ik ga nochtans graag naar de Us. maar het wordt steeds meer en meer duidelijk dat de pro-zion manipulaties echt te ver aan het gaan zijn.

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MIDDLEEAST.ORG - MER - Washington - 2 December: You'd think that when the Capitol Hill offices of the most important foreign policy/Middle East 'lobby' are invaded by the FBI, computers and files seized and subpoenas served against top officials, this would be important news in Washington.

But when it comes to the super-powerful and extraordinarily well-connected Israeli-Jewish Lobby -- spearheaded on Capitol Hill by AIPAC, the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, whose offices were FBI 'searched' yesterday -- [size=3]all the usual rules just don't apply. [/size]For the Washington Post it was a small notice on the inside pages, Page A7 to be precise. As for The Washington Times, even more notoriously a constant appologist for Israel and it's many lobbying organizations and personalities, looks like the story didn't even make the paper.
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In fact, it's all really a little strange.

[size=2]Some news organizations mistakenly reported the American Jews working for AIPAC were 'Israelis'[/size]

Having publicly telegraphed in a very big and public way weeks ago, long before the election, that they were investigating AIPAC for possibly spying for Israel, did the FBI really expect at this late date with so much time to 'prepare' that they were really going to find incriminating evidence still awaiting them at AIPAC HQ?

This is certainly not the way the FBI has handled matters relating to Muslim and Islamic organizations and charities from Washington to Virginia to Texas and L.A. all around the country.

Moreover the latest AIPAC allegations -- for there have been quite a few over the years -- involve highly sensitive 'intelligence' and 'pressures' regarding Iran. And Iran just happens to be the country now the focus of American attack preparations -- the second Middle East 'Axis of Evil' country that other prominent Jewish Washington personalities pushed into George Bush's State of the Union speech a few years ago (namely Richard Perle and David Frum, both now associated with the right-wing neocon think-tank the American Enterprise Institute [AEI]).

With many allegations that key senior Jewish Israeli-connected persons in the Bush/Cheney Administration -- working in tandem with their many friends and comrades in various of the Israeli-lobby organizations -- [size=3]deliberately hyped the lies and deceptions that got the U.S. to invade and occupy Iraq; and now with similar allegations with regard to Iran; [/size]you'd think the media would have learned it's lesson. But that definitely does not appear to be the case.

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Subpoenas issued for officials of pro-Israel lobby group

[size=-1]By Warren P. Strobel and Shannon McCaffrey[/size]

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WASHINGTON - 1 December: FBI agents executed search warrants Wednesday at the headquarters of a leading pro-Israel lobby and delivered grand jury subpoenas in an ongoing probe of alleged espionage for Israel, federal officials and the lobby group said.

The search and the subpoenas for four top officials of the American Israel Public Affairs Committee indicate that the politically charged investigation remains active. No criminal charges have been filed in the case.

AIPAC, one of Washington's most influential lobbies, said in a statement that neither the group nor its employees have broken any law.

"We are fully cooperating with the governmental authorities. We believe any court of law or grand jury will conclude that AIPAC employees have always acted legally, properly and appropriately," it said.

The lobby group said that the FBI, which in August obtained computer files related to two AIPAC employees, returned Wednesday "and requested and obtained additional files relating to the same two AIPAC staff members and delivered subpoenas requiring the appearance of four senior AIPAC staff before a grand jury."

U.S. officials previously have identified the two staff members as Steven Rosen, AIPAC's director of foreign policy issues, and Keith Weissman, his deputy and an Iran expert.

The two men have hired prominent Washington lawyer Abbe Lowell to represent them. Lowell's firm, Chadbourne & Park, had no comment.

The FBI investigation, which has been under way for more than two years, became public in August with news reports that authorities were looking into the handling of classified information by Pentagon employee Lawrence A. Franklin.

Current and former U.S. officials have said that authorities are investigating whether Franklin shared a highly classified draft presidential policy document on Iran with AIPAC staffers, who in turn passed it to Israel.

Investigators have interviewed people at the White House, State Department and Pentagon, the current and former officials said. They also have asked questions about whether Ahmad Chalabi, a prominent Iraqi exile backed by the Pentagon who provided bogus intelligence on Iraq, improperly received highly classified U.S. intelligence about Iran.

Franklin, an analyst in the office of Undersecretary of Defense for Policy Douglas Feith, hasn't been charged with wrongdoing. His lawyer, prominent Washington defense attorney Plato Cacheris, didn't immediately return a phone call Wednesday.

The Israeli government has vehemently denied that it spied on the United States. Israel says all such activities were halted following the 1985 arrest of Navy analyst Jonathan Pollard, who later was convicted of selling U.S. secrets to Israel.

Federal law enforcement officials declined Wednesday to provide details of what the FBI agents were searching for at AIPAC's offices, a few blocks from the U.S. Capitol. The search warrant is sealed.

"The investigation is continuing," said one official, speaking on condition of anonymity. "This is normal procedure in a case like this."

A spokesman for Paul McNulty, the U.S. attorney in the Eastern District of Virginia, whose office is handling the case, declined to comment.

nadine · 5 december 2004, 18:53

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Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door liesl

waar men al zo lang voor had gevreesd

hopelijk kan men nog tijdig ingrijpen...

Och arme, dat is weeral iets nieuws. Lijdt je aan geheugenverlies of zo? Dat had je vriendje Dolf toch ook al gezegd en gelezen in de protocollen van de wijzen van Zion. Of hebt je dat feuilleton zo juist op de TV van de Hesbollah gezien.

Voor ingrijpen: wat stel je voor? Een holocaust of zo? Minder zou men van jou niet meer verwachten als men je postings zo leest. Wat hebben die jou misdaan? Soms een probleem van niet beantwoorde kalverliefde waar je nog met kampt

PollyCorrect · 5 december 2004, 18:59

Ach nadine... tante liesl haalt zijn informatie op een fundi site die lult over The Great Arafat Assassination... heb je nog méér nodig?

Vlaanderen Boven · 5 december 2004, 18:59

Waarom haal je overal verwijzingen naar de Tweede Wereldoorlog bij?

nadine · 5 december 2004, 19:01

Citaat:

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Vlaanderen Boven

Waarom haal je overal verwijzingen naar de Tweede Wereldoorlog bij?

Waarom stoort het jou dat het HIER terecht vermeld wordt?

nadine · 5 december 2004, 19:03

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Ach nadine... tante liesl haalt zijn informatie op een fundi site die lult over The Great Arafat Assassination... heb je nog méér nodig?

Das ook juist. Over die vergiftiging horen we niets meer. Zou het dan toch AIDS zijn waaraan die vent tenonder ging?

Vlaanderen Boven · 5 december 2004, 19:04

Is lies het vriendje van Dolf?

liesl · 5 december 2004, 19:08

fijn toch, dat over de FEITEN helemaal niets ontkend kan worden.

Haten jullie maar flink verder.

de fbi zal ook wel een neonazi groepering zijn vol moslims en allochtonen.

liesl · 5 december 2004, 19:12

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Is lies het vriendje van Dolf?

tuurlijk, vandaag he
en morgen ben ik een allochtoonse..en dan verandert het volgens hun weer..

bijgevolg zijn alle argumenten en feiten over het zionisme van tafel geveegd.

nazi rhetoriek door joodse fundi's he

ze zijn best wel grappig hoor daar niet van....en ze nemen alleen zichzelf nog ernstig, zoals een andere forummer nog onlangs schreef.

nadine · 5 december 2004, 19:13

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Is lies het vriendje van Dolf?

Als ik zo zijn muziekgeluid mag horen is "zij" zeker al de vriendin van de Nazi Rolf. Over zijn intenties Trappt er niemand nog in

nadine · 5 december 2004, 19:15

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en ze nemen alleen zichzelf nog ernstig, zoals een [size=6]andere[/size] forummer nog onlangs schreef.

Dat was weer zeer bruut vergroot zonder gewelddadig te willen zijn.

liesl · 5 december 2004, 19:16

tja, Nadine , het is idd geweten dat u
JOODS bent
een MAN en geen vlaming ...

Uw grammatica onlangs sprak boekdelen. nederlands...lastig voor een franssprekende jood, ook al zet hij mechelen bij locatie...

erg hoor dat je je zo schaamt voor je joods zijn.

liesl · 5 december 2004, 19:19

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Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door nadine

Als ik zo zijn muziekgeluid mag horen is "zij" zeker al de vriendin van de Nazi Rolf. Over zijn intenties Trappt er niemand nog in

muziekgeluid ?
zeker al ?
trappt er niemand nog ?

Ja, u bent zeker een "vlaming".

..Wanneer genaturaliseerd ? français etre plus facile he...

nadine · 5 december 2004, 19:22

Madam Soleil is weeral in haren glazen bol aan het kijken volledig verblind door de zon die boven haren zandbak schijnt.

Nog altijd last van die niet beantwoorde kalverliefde? Waar was het ook weer? In Wilrijk of zo?

liesl · 5 december 2004, 19:25

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muziekgeluid ?
zeker al ?
trappt er niemand nog ?

Ja, u bent zeker een "vlaming".

..Wanneer genaturaliseerd ? français etre plus facile he...

tijd voor je nick weer eens te wijzigen....ishmael
als je lang genoeg probeert, gaan ze je ooit wel eens geloven.

nadine · 5 december 2004, 19:26

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Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door nadine

Madam Soleil is weeral in haren glazen bol aan het kijken volledig verblind door de zon die boven haren zandbak schijnt.

Nog altijd last van die niet beantwoorde kalverliefde? Waar was het ook weer? In Wilrijk of zo?

R. Heydrich · 6 december 2004, 00:26

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Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door nadine

Als ik zo zijn muziekgeluid mag horen is "zij" zeker al de vriendin van de Nazi Rolf. Over zijn intenties Trappt er niemand nog in

Nonkel Marcel behoort al bijna 60 jaar niet méér tot de levenden ,haakneus!!

PollyCorrect · 6 december 2004, 00:36

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Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door nadine

Dat was weer zeer bruut vergroot zonder gewelddadig te willen zijn.

LIES (L)! ALL JUST LIES (L)! (goeie naam eigenlijk)

liesl · 6 december 2004, 00:46

***Persoonlijke beledigingen***

PollyCorrect · 6 december 2004, 00:49

Ja, dat is 'm, ********.
Nu komt de aap uit de mouw.
Nu breekt mijn klomp.

5 december 2004, 18:45	#1
liesl Burger Geregistreerd: 13 november 2004 Berichten: 122	US meer en meer overgenomen door zionisten en joodse fundi's? waar men al zo lang voor had gevreesd hopelijk kan men nog tijdig ingrijpen... ik ga nochtans graag naar de Us. maar het wordt steeds meer en meer duidelijk dat de pro-zion manipulaties echt te ver aan het gaan zijn. [font=Verdana][size=2][font=arial][/font][/size][/font]WASHINGTON SCENE: [font=Verdana][size=2][font=arial][/font][/size][/font] [font=Verdana][size=2][font=arial]FBI and Israeli-Jewish Lobby Square Off [/font][/size][/font] [size=4]But Washington Newspapers Hardly Report [/size] MIDDLEEAST.ORG - MER - Washington - 2 December: You'd think that when the Capitol Hill offices of the most important foreign policy/Middle East 'lobby' are invaded by the FBI, computers and files seized and subpoenas served against top officials, this would be important news in Washington. But when it comes to the super-powerful and extraordinarily well-connected Israeli-Jewish Lobby -- spearheaded on Capitol Hill by AIPAC, the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, whose offices were FBI 'searched' yesterday -- [size=3]all the usual rules just don't apply. [/size]For the Washington Post it was a small notice on the inside pages, Page A7 to be precise. As for The Washington Times, even more notoriously a constant appologist for Israel and it's many lobbying organizations and personalities, looks like the story didn't even make the paper. [font=Verdana][size=2][font=arial][/font][/size][/font] [font=Verdana][size=2][font=arial][/font][/size][/font] In fact, it's all really a little strange. [size=2]Some news organizations mistakenly reported the American Jews working for AIPAC were 'Israelis'[/size] Having publicly telegraphed in a very big and public way weeks ago, long before the election, that they were investigating AIPAC for possibly spying for Israel, did the FBI really expect at this late date with so much time to 'prepare' that they were really going to find incriminating evidence still awaiting them at AIPAC HQ? This is certainly not the way the FBI has handled matters relating to Muslim and Islamic organizations and charities from Washington to Virginia to Texas and L.A. all around the country. Moreover the latest AIPAC allegations -- for there have been quite a few over the years -- involve highly sensitive 'intelligence' and 'pressures' regarding Iran. And Iran just happens to be the country now the focus of American attack preparations -- the second Middle East 'Axis of Evil' country that other prominent Jewish Washington personalities pushed into George Bush's State of the Union speech a few years ago (namely Richard Perle and David Frum, both now associated with the right-wing neocon think-tank the American Enterprise Institute [AEI]). With many allegations that key senior Jewish Israeli-connected persons in the Bush/Cheney Administration -- working in tandem with their many friends and comrades in various of the Israeli-lobby organizations -- [size=3]deliberately hyped the lies and deceptions that got the U.S. to invade and occupy Iraq; and now with similar allegations with regard to Iran; [/size]you'd think the media would have learned it's lesson. But that definitely does not appear to be the case. [font=Verdana][size=2][font=arial][/font][/size][/font][font=Verdana][size=2][font=arial][/font][/size][/font] [font=Verdana][size=2][font=arial][/font][/size][/font] Subpoenas issued for officials of pro-Israel lobby group [size=-1]By Warren P. Strobel and Shannon McCaffrey[/size] [size=-1]Knight Ridder Newspapers[/size] WASHINGTON - 1 December: FBI agents executed search warrants Wednesday at the headquarters of a leading pro-Israel lobby and delivered grand jury subpoenas in an ongoing probe of alleged espionage for Israel, federal officials and the lobby group said. The search and the subpoenas for four top officials of the American Israel Public Affairs Committee indicate that the politically charged investigation remains active. No criminal charges have been filed in the case. AIPAC, one of Washington's most influential lobbies, said in a statement that neither the group nor its employees have broken any law. "We are fully cooperating with the governmental authorities. We believe any court of law or grand jury will conclude that AIPAC employees have always acted legally, properly and appropriately," it said. The lobby group said that the FBI, which in August obtained computer files related to two AIPAC employees, returned Wednesday "and requested and obtained additional files relating to the same two AIPAC staff members and delivered subpoenas requiring the appearance of four senior AIPAC staff before a grand jury." U.S. officials previously have identified the two staff members as Steven Rosen, AIPAC's director of foreign policy issues, and Keith Weissman, his deputy and an Iran expert. The two men have hired prominent Washington lawyer Abbe Lowell to represent them. Lowell's firm, Chadbourne & Park, had no comment. The FBI investigation, which has been under way for more than two years, became public in August with news reports that authorities were looking into the handling of classified information by Pentagon employee Lawrence A. Franklin. Current and former U.S. officials have said that authorities are investigating whether Franklin shared a highly classified draft presidential policy document on Iran with AIPAC staffers, who in turn passed it to Israel. Investigators have interviewed people at the White House, State Department and Pentagon, the current and former officials said. They also have asked questions about whether Ahmad Chalabi, a prominent Iraqi exile backed by the Pentagon who provided bogus intelligence on Iraq, improperly received highly classified U.S. intelligence about Iran. Franklin, an analyst in the office of Undersecretary of Defense for Policy Douglas Feith, hasn't been charged with wrongdoing. His lawyer, prominent Washington defense attorney Plato Cacheris, didn't immediately return a phone call Wednesday. The Israeli government has vehemently denied that it spied on the United States. Israel says all such activities were halted following the 1985 arrest of Navy analyst Jonathan Pollard, who later was convicted of selling U.S. secrets to Israel. Federal law enforcement officials declined Wednesday to provide details of what the FBI agents were searching for at AIPAC's offices, a few blocks from the U.S. Capitol. The search warrant is sealed. "The investigation is continuing," said one official, speaking on condition of anonymity. "This is normal procedure in a case like this." A spokesman for Paul McNulty, the U.S. attorney in the Eastern District of Virginia, whose office is handling the case, declined to comment. Laatst gewijzigd door liesl : 5 december 2004 om 18:46.

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PollyCorrect Perm. Vertegenwoordiger VN Geregistreerd: 11 april 2004 Berichten: 11.718	Ach nadine... tante liesl haalt zijn informatie op een fundi site die lult over The Great Arafat Assassination... heb je nog méér nodig? __________________ Ook zo blij dat 2010 het Europees Jaar van de Strijd tegen de Armoede en de Sociale Uitsluiting was?

5 december 2004, 19:22	#14
nadine Parlementslid Geregistreerd: 25 mei 2004 Locatie: mechelen Berichten: 1.902	Madam Soleil is weeral in haren glazen bol aan het kijken volledig verblind door de zon die boven haren zandbak schijnt. Nog altijd last van die niet beantwoorde kalverliefde? Waar was het ook weer? In Wilrijk of zo? __________________ [size=1][size=3]Het Al Dura fabeltje[/size][/size] Laatst gewijzigd door nadine : 5 december 2004 om 19:27.

6 december 2004, 00:46	#19
liesl Burger Geregistreerd: 13 november 2004 Berichten: 122	*Persoonlijke beledigingen* __________________ vrije meningsuiting volgens nadine=polly=.... "[size=1]dat ik er in geslaagd ben een antisemitische islamsite in Nederland door de overheid heb kunne van Internet halen." [/size] [size=1]"maar morgen zal ik in versnelling treden,want met de laatste tekst van de moderator is ook hier een grens overschreden[/size] [size=1]Dat legt dus volkomen uit waarom antisemitisme expliciet op dit forum(politics.be)toegelaten is.Voor hoelang?dat zal daarna niet meer van mij afhangen[/size] Laatst gewijzigd door johanvdw : 13 december 2004 om 13:00.

6 december 2004, 00:49	#20
PollyCorrect Perm. Vertegenwoordiger VN Geregistreerd: 11 april 2004 Berichten: 11.718	Ja, dat is 'm, ******. Nu komt de aap uit de mouw. Nu breekt mijn klomp. __________________ Ook zo blij dat 2010 het Europees Jaar van de Strijd tegen de Armoede en de Sociale Uitsluiting was?** Laatst gewijzigd door PollyCorrect : 6 december 2004 om 00:51.

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liesl Burger Geregistreerd: 13 november 2004 Berichten: 122	fijn toch, dat over de FEITEN helemaal niets ontkend kan worden. Haten jullie maar flink verder. de fbi zal ook wel een neonazi groepering zijn vol moslims en allochtonen.

5 december 2004, 19:16	#12
liesl Burger Geregistreerd: 13 november 2004 Berichten: 122	tja, Nadine , het is idd geweten dat u JOODS bent een MAN en geen vlaming ... Uw grammatica onlangs sprak boekdelen. nederlands...lastig voor een franssprekende jood, ook al zet hij mechelen bij locatie... erg hoor dat je je zo schaamt voor je joods zijn.