Koerdistan

[djimi]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Salah

Dat zien we in Aleppo. Ook in de rest van Syrië gaan ze lopen omdat hun terroristen hen niet kunnen beschermen.

...

Blijkbaar hebben 'ze' in Aleppo en 'de rest van Syrië' dan toch bescherming nodig.

Tegen de felle zon zal het wel niet zijn, vermoed ik.

[Salah]

With Backing From Damascus, PYD Has Free Hand to Repress Syria’s Kurds

For more than a year, the Democratic Union Party (PYD) and its People’s Defense Forces (YPG) have exercised state-like power in the Kurdish regions of Syria. Supported by Iran with weapons and ammunition moved through central Iraq, the PYD—a Syrian affiliate of Turkey’s Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK)—controls large parts of the border region between the Kurdish areas of Syria, Turkey and Iraq. Activists criticizing or not cooperating with the PYD have been abducted, tortured and sometimes killed. The PYD imposes taxes on gasoline, collects border fees and has established a system of courts. Since summer 2012, the Syrian regime has handed over the administration of an increasing number of cities and villages to the PYD. The fact that the PYD took over all the cities they now control without any significant fighting indicates that there was a deal between the regime and the PYD and PKK.

There are several reasons for the Syrian regime’s cooperation with the PYD. First, the PYD has, particularly in the second half of 2011 and the first half of 2012, violently suppressed dissident demonstrations on behalf of the regime, for example in Afrin. This allowed the Syrian army to concentrate on fights elsewhere and avoid having to open a second front against the Kurds, back then hesitant to join the revolt. ...

http://www.worldpoliticsreview.com/a...-syria-s-kurds

[Salah]

Vluchtelingen aan het woord

All of the new arrivals cited violence in their regions as the main reason for leaving their homes, although only one or two said they actually witnessed the atrocities that Islamic groups are said to have committed against Kurdish civilians.

Many of the refugees reported that their areas were not directly affected by the clashes. They said their main concern is the bad economic situation, with food prices rising – rice at around $9 a kilo - and electricity and water cut because of the war.

“We are poor here, but we were even poorer in Syria,” said Najima Bakir, 28, who fled from Derik and waited days at the border for the opening.

http://rudaw.net/english/kurdistan/25082013

[Snerror]

Die vluchtelingen hebben het nog veel beter dan homo's in moslimlanden.

[Bolleke Wol]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Salah

Zijn titel is wereldwijd goed gekend.

Euh nee, dat is het niet.

[Johan Bollen]

By 1988, U.S. intelligence was flowing freely to Hussein's military. That March, Iraq launched a nerve gas attack on the Kurdish village of Halabja in northern Iraq.

A month later, the Iraqis used aerial bombs and artillery shells filled with sarin against Iranian troop concentrations on the Fao Peninsula southeast of Basrah, helping the Iraqi forces win a major victory and recapture the entire peninsula. The success of the Fao Peninsula offensive also prevented the Iranians from launching their much-anticipated offensive to capture Basrah. According to Francona, Washington was very pleased with the result because the Iranians never got a chance to launch their offensive.

Nieuwe info uit gedeclasificeerde CIA rapporten toont dat de VS op de hoogte waren van het gebruik van chemische wapens door Houssein. Meer zelfs, ze gaven hem de intel om zijn doelen te kiezen. Jaren later gebruiken diezelfde VS de chemische aanvallen van Houssein in hun propaganda tegen Irak. Maar op het moment van de aanvallen zelf wisten ze ervan en zwegen ze omdat het hen goed uitkwam.

http://www.zcommunications.org/cia-f...hew-m-aid.html

[The_Belgian_Kurd]

They named the operations "Martyr Çekjin Revolutionary Operations". And under that name YPG (People's Defense Units) guerrillas liberated yet another village from the hands of al-Qaida-linked armed groups. The last village to be liberated today was the village of Hemid, 8 km east of Serêkaniyê.

The "Martyr Çekjin Revolutionary Operations" started at the end of August with the precise aim to liberate villages from the violent occupation of al-Qaida-linked groups.

The village of Hemid is the second to be liberated today. Earlier this morning YPG guerrillas liberated the village of Çafa.

Counting Hemid the Kurdish guerrillas have liberated five villages in the past two weeks.

[The_Belgian_Kurd]

BREAKING NEWS!

LONDON - The most powerful Kurdish faction in Syria has declared self-rule over the territory it controls in the northeast of the country. The announcement further complicates the civil war in Syria, and presents a complex problem for neighboring Turkey and the autonomous Kurdistan Regional Government in northern Iraq.
In recent weeks, Kurdish militia in Syria have ousted Islamist fighters from several villages close to the Turkish border.
The victories prompted the main political group of Syria’s Kurds, known as the PYD, to declare autonomy.
At a press conference in Paris this week, the head of the PYD Saleh Muslim discussed why the Kurds were able to defeat the Islamists.
“Because in the end, they are fighting for money, as I mentioned. There are about 3,000 people killed from them. At the beginning, they were strong, but now they are not strong enough,” said Muslim.
Opposition groups in Syria accuse the Kurds of colluding with Syrian government forces - a claim the PYD strongly denies.
There was some coordination over the withdrawal of government troops from Kurdish areas last year - but they remain historic enemies, says Robert Lowe of the Middle East Center at the London School of Economics.
“Maybe the regime has been buying time and it’s one area of Syria they would prefer not be fighting at the moment. But I think the regime will be unhappy that the Kurds have gone as far as to declare a full autonomous government because contemplating any break-up of Syrian territory is an absolute red line for a regime built on Arab nationalism,” said Lowe.
Kurdish gains in Syria pose a complex problem for Turkey.
The border has long been porous; Turkish attempts to build a frontier wall are being met with violent protests.
Ankara also is trying to negotiate a peace deal to end the decades-long war against Kurdish separatists known as the PKK, which is closely allied to the PYD in Syria.
But the move towards autonomy for the Kurds - already in northern Iraq, and now increasingly in Syria - could benefit Turkey, says Ibrahim Sirkeci of Regents University in London.
“Independence of Kurdistan in either of these countries perhaps will be conducive to establish a more peaceful solution which may appear in Turkey as well in the medium to long-term,” said Sirkeci.
Kurds in northern Iraq already enjoy much autonomy. Statehood for all Kurds may be a long held dream, but Iraq’s Kurdistan Regional Government will be wary of the developments in Syria, says Robert Lowe.
“The party, the PYD which has declared autonomy, is not an ally of the Kurds in Iraq. And also partly because it upsets Turkey, which is a very, very important partner for the Kurds in Iraq,” he said.
But more broadly, the regional momentum is towards Kurdish independence, says Ibrahim Sirkeci.
“It may appear in a federal system, a confederal system or whatever, but it seems at the moment there is nothing against that. The environment is quite conducive,” he said.
Analysts say the Kurdish gains further complicate the ongoing civil war in Syria, which is witnessing the splintering of opposition forces.


2 DELEN VAN KOERDISTAN BEVRIJD!

[Nietzsche]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door The_Belgian_Kurd

BREAKING NEWS!

LONDON - The most powerful Kurdish faction in Syria has declared self-rule over the territory it controls in the northeast of the country. The announcement further complicates the civil war in Syria, and presents a complex problem for neighboring Turkey and the autonomous Kurdistan Regional Government in northern Iraq.
In recent weeks, Kurdish militia in Syria have ousted Islamist fighters from several villages close to the Turkish border.
The victories prompted the main political group of Syria’s Kurds, known as the PYD, to declare autonomy.
At a press conference in Paris this week, the head of the PYD Saleh Muslim discussed why the Kurds were able to defeat the Islamists.
“Because in the end, they are fighting for money, as I mentioned. There are about 3,000 people killed from them. At the beginning, they were strong, but now they are not strong enough,” said Muslim.
Opposition groups in Syria accuse the Kurds of colluding with Syrian government forces - a claim the PYD strongly denies.
There was some coordination over the withdrawal of government troops from Kurdish areas last year - but they remain historic enemies, says Robert Lowe of the Middle East Center at the London School of Economics.
“Maybe the regime has been buying time and it’s one area of Syria they would prefer not be fighting at the moment. But I think the regime will be unhappy that the Kurds have gone as far as to declare a full autonomous government because contemplating any break-up of Syrian territory is an absolute red line for a regime built on Arab nationalism,” said Lowe.
Kurdish gains in Syria pose a complex problem for Turkey.
The border has long been porous; Turkish attempts to build a frontier wall are being met with violent protests.
Ankara also is trying to negotiate a peace deal to end the decades-long war against Kurdish separatists known as the PKK, which is closely allied to the PYD in Syria.
But the move towards autonomy for the Kurds - already in northern Iraq, and now increasingly in Syria - could benefit Turkey, says Ibrahim Sirkeci of Regents University in London.
“Independence of Kurdistan in either of these countries perhaps will be conducive to establish a more peaceful solution which may appear in Turkey as well in the medium to long-term,” said Sirkeci.
Kurds in northern Iraq already enjoy much autonomy. Statehood for all Kurds may be a long held dream, but Iraq’s Kurdistan Regional Government will be wary of the developments in Syria, says Robert Lowe.
“The party, the PYD which has declared autonomy, is not an ally of the Kurds in Iraq. And also partly because it upsets Turkey, which is a very, very important partner for the Kurds in Iraq,” he said.
But more broadly, the regional momentum is towards Kurdish independence, says Ibrahim Sirkeci.
“It may appear in a federal system, a confederal system or whatever, but it seems at the moment there is nothing against that. The environment is quite conducive,” he said.
Analysts say the Kurdish gains further complicate the ongoing civil war in Syria, which is witnessing the splintering of opposition forces.


2 DELEN VAN KOERDISTAN BEVRIJD!

Uiteindelijk zullen de Koerden nooit een onafhankelijk Koerdistan krijgen.

[JeeBee]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Nietzsche

Uiteindelijk zullen de Koerden nooit een onafhankelijk Koerdistan krijgen.

Natuurlijk zullen de Koerden wél een onafhankelijk Koerdistan krijgen al zal dat in het begin zijn zonder het Turkse gedeelte, ook al zal daar de autonomie groeien.

Je kan mensen niet eindeloos hun rechten blijven ontzeggen en de trend naar autonomie is al jaren zeer duidelijk gezet en ze zit in een stroomversnelling door de onstabiliteit van bepaalde regimes in de regio het laatste decennium.

Ik meen overigens dat een sterke Koerdische staat een groot stabiliserend effect op de regio zou kunnen hebben.

[The_Belgian_Kurd]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Nietzsche

Uiteindelijk zullen de Koerden nooit een onafhankelijk Koerdistan krijgen.

Hehe, je lijkt net op een Turkse nationalist. 20 jaar geleden zou ik u nog gelijk hebben gegeven, maar hey times changed. Koerden zijn nog nooit zo machtig geweest, ze controleren nu ongeveer 150.000 km2(!). En dat voor mensen die geen 'land' hebben.

[Nietzsche]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door The_Belgian_Kurd

Hehe, je lijkt net op een Turkse nationalist. 20 jaar geleden zou ik u nog gelijk hebben gegeven, maar hey times changed. Koerden zijn nog nooit zo machtig geweest, ze controleren nu ongeveer 150.000 km2(!). En dat voor mensen die geen 'land' hebben.

Ze maken inderdaad perfect gebruik van een walgelijk conflict (Syrië) .

Maar wanneer dat weer een beetje stabiel is kunnen de Koerden weer zwaaien naar hun 150.000 km2. Of denk jij serieus dat een militie waarvan ongeveer 70% uit vrouwen bestaat iets kan betekenen en echt de macht kan pakken?

Laat mij niet lachen.

[The_Belgian_Kurd]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Nietzsche

Ze maken inderdaad perfect gebruik van een walgelijk conflict (Syrië) .

Maar wanneer dat weer een beetje stabiel is kunnen de Koerden weer zwaaien naar hun 150.000 km2. Of denk jij serieus dat een militie waarvan ongeveer 70% uit vrouwen bestaat iets kan betekenen en echt de macht kan pakken?

Laat mij niet lachen.

Na de oorlog in Irak behielden de Koerden hun grond, dus wat is je punt? En ik betreur het dat je zo over vrouwen denkt. Abdullah Öçalan zei ooit: “Vrouwen kunnen beter vechten en mannen kunnen beter koken.”

[D'ARTOIS]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door JeeBee

Natuurlijk zullen de Koerden wél een onafhankelijk Koerdistan krijgen al zal dat in het begin zijn zonder het Turkse gedeelte, ook al zal daar de autonomie groeien.

Je kan mensen niet eindeloos hun rechten blijven ontzeggen en de trend naar autonomie is al jaren zeer duidelijk gezet en ze zit in een stroomversnelling door de onstabiliteit van bepaalde regimes in de regio het laatste decennium.

Ik meen overigens dat een sterke Koerdische staat een groot stabiliserend effect op de regio zou kunnen hebben.

Bepaald niet onmogelijk en eerder waarschijnlijk.

[Bolleke Wol]

Meer en meer krijgt Ocalan wel gelijk: de Koerden zijn een essentieel onderdeel van een vredesproces in het Midden-Oosten. Een soevereine Koerdische staat kan veel meer bereiken dan alle "onderhandelingen" die het Westen probeert te voeren in de regio.

[mvd]

De Koerden lijken af te stevenen op onafhankelijkheid. De Iraakse vlaggen zijn weggehaald van overheidsgebouwen, ook op plaatsen als Kirkuk. De Koerden hebben hun territorium dus ook aanzienlijk uitgebreid.

KIRKUK, Iraq — As Iraqi Kurdish president Massoud Barzani asked legislators to prepare for an independence referendum Thursday, dozens of Kurds in the region’s capital Erbil rallied in support, waving flags and chanting slogans of freedom and independence.

Iraq's five million Kurds, who have ruled themselves within Iraq in relative peace since the 1990s, have expanded their territory by up to 40 percent in recent weeks as a Sunni-led rebellion seized vast stretches of western and northern Iraq.

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middle...010428418.html

Netanyahu sprak zijn steun uit voor een Koerdische staat: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qn7PxQ0DF9s

Zelfs de Turken lijken akkoord te gaan:

“Unfortunately, the situation in Iraq is not good and it looks like it is going to be divided,” Huseyin Celik told the daily. He said that, in the past, an independent Kurdish state in Iraq would be a “reason for war” for Turkey. “But no one has the right to say this now.”

[Kunoichi]

Turken hebben olie en gas nodig. En de yahoudis:



Israelis 'using Kurds to build power base'

Israeli military and intelligence operatives are active in Kurdish areas of Iran, Syria and Iraq, providing training for commando units and running covert operations that could further destabilise the entire region.

Israel's aims, according to Hersh, are to build up the Kurdish military strength in order to offset the strength of the Shia militias and to create a base in Iran from which they can spy on Iran's suspected nuclear-making facilities.

"Israel has always supported the Kurds in a Machiavellian way - a balance against Saddam," one former Israeli intelligence officer told the New Yorker. "It's Realpolitik. By aligning with the Kurds Israel gains eyes and ears in Iran, Iraq and Syria.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2004/jun/21/iraq.syria

[Kunoichi]

Iranian Foreign Minister: Kurdish State 'Part of a Zionist Plot'

Iranian Foreign Minister Hossein Amir has come out strongly against Kurdish statehood, saying that the only entity an independent Kurdistan would serve, is Israel – and that the Islamic Republic is determined not to let that happen.

“We have not forgotten that [Prime Minister Binyamin] Netanyahu is the only one who with great joy supports the independence of Kurdistan, but we will never let him fulfill his dreams for Iraq and this region. Netanyahu will have to continue to dream,” he said.

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Ne...0#.U7wDQrF6v_I