Alexander De Cr00: Op weg naar één biljoen € schuld.

[Svennies]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Everytime

....in de leegte spreekt. U zal dus verder met België moeten leven.

Aan dit tempo ,niet lang meer , of die koterij hier wordt onder curatele van Europa gesteld ...

En de sanering zal er dan sowieso diep insnijden....

Maar dan niet komen janken hé....

[TREBRON]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door ViveLaBelgique

Momenteel bedraagt de geconsolideerde Belgische overheidsschuld 0,5 biljoen €. Dat is 500 miljard €. Dat is +- 500.000.000.000,- €.

Nog nooit smeet de overheid zo massaal met geld. Bedrijven en zelfstandigen kregen en krijgen premies en uitkeringen zonder veel vragen. Zombiebedrijven modderen aan of sluiten na incassering premies.

Kosten op sterfhuis worden omgeschreven als "investeringen in zorg, welzijn, gezondheid, cultuur, armoedebestrijding, banen, ...".

China was tot vorige eeuw nog een ontwikkelingsland en domineert nu op economisch, ideologisch en financieel vlak de wereld.

Wat deed de Belg ? Hij verdeed meer tijd op internet dan hij vroeger voor zijn TV zat onder invloed van de Amerikaanse cultuur. Hij gebruikt meer dan ooit technologie gemaakt Korea, China en Taiwan. Mocht Aziatische kledij verboden zijn zat hij er naakt bij.

Nomen est omen. Als Alexander De Croo zijn naam waarmaakt zet hij niet één nul bij onze overheidsschuld maar twee.

Leve het communisme en leve de dictatuur ,???.

[Vette Pois(s)on]

en te zeggen dat dat allemaal vanzelve gaat verdwijnen

[Xenophon]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Vette Pois(s)on

en te zeggen dat dat allemaal vanzelve gaat verdwijnen

Luilekkerland komt er aan.

[ViveLaBelgique]

https://www.fitchratings.com/researc...-aa-10-03-2023

Fitch Ratings - Frankfurt am Main - 10 Mar 2023: Fitch Ratings has revised the Outlook on Belgium's Long-Term Foreign-Currency Issuer Default Rating (IDR) to Negative from Stable and affirmed the IDR at 'AA-'.

A full list of rating actions is at the end of this rating action commentary.
Key Rating Drivers

The revision of the Outlook reflects the following key rating drivers and their relative weights:

High

Persistently Wide Fiscal Deficits: Despite a gradual phase-out of temporary measures, we expect Belgium's fiscal balance to widen to 5.2% in 2023 from 4.0% in 2022, compared with the 2023 projected 'AA' median of 1.5%, as pension and healthcare costs rise substantially (according to National Bank of Belgium (NBB), aging-related expenditure will increase by 1.5% of GDP in 2023 compared with pre-pandemic levels). The budgetary impact from the automatic indexation of public sector wages will add to these pressures.

Absent fiscal consolidation, these structural factors will keep the Belgian fiscal deficit elevated in the medium term. According to our projections, the deficit will stabilise at around 5% of GDP from 2024 onwards in the no-policy change scenario, significantly higher than the 'AA' median at 0.8% of GDP and the eurozone weighted average at 3.3% of GDP.

Debt on Upward Trend: Under our baseline scenario, the general government debt/GDP ratio will remain on a gradual upward trend over the medium and long term. We expect the debt ratio to reach 107.0% of GDP in 2024, from 105.2% in 2022 and continue rising to 110.2% by 2027. The 2024 debt level would be 9.4% of GDP higher than in 2019 and more than 2x the current 'AA' median.

Rising debt service cost is adding to the fiscal pressures. The long maturity of Belgium's debt at above 10 years somewhat mitigates the pass-through of the higher financing costs. We expect the interest payments/revenue ratio to increase to 3.4% by 2024 from 2.8% in 2022, above the projected 'AA' rated median at 2.9%. Risks to the debt path are tilted to the downside, given the heightened uncertainty surrounding Belgium's short- and medium-term economic and fiscal outlook.

Limited Capacity to Address Pressures: Belgium's seven-party ruling coalition remains fragile and finding consensus on how to improve the long-term sustainability of public finances has proved challenging. Despite the government's effort to consolidate the public finances (it undertook an effort equal to 0.7% of GDP in fiscal consolidation measures in 2021-22), the projected medium-term fiscal deficits remain sizable. Recent pension and labour market reforms failed to deliver tangible budget savings. According to the Federal Planning Bureau, the recent pension reform will have a net negative impact on the budget.

In our view, it is unlikely the government will adopt fiscal consolidation measures that would narrow the fiscal deficit given upcoming federal parliamentary elections in 2024. Because of Belgium's very fragmented political landscape and the record of lengthy coalition negotiations (it took 541 days to form a coalition following the 2019 federal election), we see a risk of significant delay in the consolidation of the public finances, even if the EU fiscal rules are reinstated.

The 'AA-' IDRs also reflect the following key rating drivers:

Strong Credit Fundamentals: Belgium's ratings are supported by its diversified, high-value-added and wealthy economy, with GDP per capita at USD51,442, 1.1x the 'AA' rated median. Belgium's credit profile also benefits from very favourable governance indicators and the reserve currency status of the euro.

Economy Set to Slow: Real GDP growth in 2022 surprised on the upside, expanding by 3.1% compared to our expectation of 2.2% at our last review in September 2022. Private consumption has been the main driver of growth, largely due to the automatic wage indexation mechanisms, which limit the erosion of households' purchasing power due to inflation.

Despite the stronger-than-expected 2022 growth outturn, we have not revised our forecast for 2023 and 2024 and we continue to expect a material deceleration in economic growth, to 0.5% and 1.6% in 2022 and 2023, respectively. Higher-for-longer interest rates and phase-out of the government energy support are main drives of the unchanged forecasts.

Core Inflation Continues to Rise: Following a peak at 10.6% in October 2022, headline inflation measured by Harmonized Index of Consumer Prices (HICP) started to fall rapidly, reaching 5.5% in February 2023. The decline is driven by the recent fall in energy prices, which quickly feed through to Belgian inflation, given the predominance of household energy contracts linked to wholesale prices. However, core inflation continues to increase and reached 6.1% in January 2023.

We expect inflation to average 5.8% in 2023 and 3.3% in 2024, down from 10.3% in 2022. Despite the recent fall in energy prices, we note that the pass-through of energy cost to consumer prices has not yet been completed as companies continue renewing their energy contracts. Automatic wage indexation will also add to inflationary pressures.

Risks to Competitiveness: Automatic wage indexation means there is a higher risk of inflation pressures becoming more persistent. The vast majority of public and private sector wages are indexed to inflation, excluding the cost of alcohol, tobacco and fuel. Persistently higher inflation and nominal wage growth could ultimately erode the price competitiveness of the Belgian economy, especially if wage growth in the neighbouring countries is moderate. Given that Belgium is a small, open economy (exports account for 86% of GDP), deterioration in price competitiveness could dampen potential growth.

Sound Banking System: The Belgian banking sector is well positioned to withstand the economic period of economic slowdown and high inflation. Capitalisation remains strong (common equity Tier 1 ratio at 17.1% in 3Q22 according to NBB) and profitability is sound (return on equity at 9.4% in 3Q22). The second-round effects of lower economic growth and an increase in inflation, particularly energy, will have a moderate impact on asset quality from a healthy initial position (non-performing loans ratio at 1.4% at end-3Q22, according to NBB).

ESG - Governance: ESG - Governance: Belgium has an ESG Relevance Score (RS) of '5[+]' for both Political Stability and Rights and for the Rule of Law, Institutional and Regulatory Quality and Control of Corruption. These scores reflect the high weight that the World Bank Governance Indicators (WBGI) have in our proprietary Sovereign Rating Model (SRM). Belgium has a high WBGI ranking at 84.1, reflecting its long record of stable and peaceful political transitions, firmly established rights for participation in the political process, strong institutional capacity, effective rule of law and a low level of corruption.
RATING SENSITIVITIES
Factors that could, individually or collectively, lead to negative rating action/downgrade:

- Public Finances: Failure to reduce fiscal deficits leading to a continued increase in government debt over the medium term.

- Macro: Evidence that wage indexation will lead to deterioration in international competitiveness, putting pressures on Belgium's medium-term growth prospects.
Factors that could, individually or collectively, lead to positive rating action/upgrade:

- Public Finances: Confidence in the stabilisation of the public debt trajectory, for example, through the implementation of a credible fiscal consolidation strategy.

- Macro: Strengthening medium-term growth prospects, particularly if related to improvements in competitiveness and structural reform implementation.
Sovereign Rating Model (SRM) and Qualitative Overlay (QO)

Fitch's proprietary SRM assigns Belgium a score equivalent to a rating of 'A+' on the Long-Term Foreign-Currency (LT FC) IDR scale.

Fitch's sovereign rating committee adjusted the output from the SRM to arrive at the final LT FC IDR by applying its QO, relative to SRM data and output, as follows:

- Macro: +1 notch, to offset the deterioration in the SRM output driven by external shocks. The deterioration of Belgium's GDP growth and fiscal metrics reflect two very substantial and unprecedented exogenous shocks that have hit the vast majority of sovereigns, and Fitch believes that Belgium has the capacity to absorb it without lasting effects on its long-term macroeconomic stability.

Fitch's SRM is the agency's proprietary multiple regression rating model that employs 18 variables based on three-year centred averages, including one year of forecasts, to produce a score equivalent to a LT FC IDR. Fitch's QO is a forward-looking qualitative framework designed to allow for adjustment to the SRM output to assign the final rating, reflecting factors within our criteria that are not fully quantifiable and/or not fully reflected in the SRM.
Best/Worst Case Rating Scenario

International scale credit ratings of Sovereigns, Public Finance and Infrastructure issuers have a best-case rating upgrade scenario (defined as the 99th percentile of rating transitions, measured in a positive direction) of three notches over a three-year rating horizon; and a worst-case rating downgrade scenario (defined as the 99th percentile of rating transitions, measured in a negative direction) of three notches over three years. The complete span of best- and worst-case scenario credit ratings for all rating categories ranges from 'AAA' to 'D'. Best- and worst-case scenario credit ratings are based on historical performance. For more information about the methodology used to determine sector-specific best- and worst-case scenario credit ratings, visit https://www.fitchratings.com/site/re/10111579.
REFERENCES FOR SUBSTANTIALLY MATERIAL SOURCE CITED AS KEY DRIVER OF RATING

The principal sources of information used in the analysis are described in the Applicable Criteria.
ESG Considerations

Belgium has an ESG Relevance Score of '5[+]' for Political Stability and Rights as WBGI have the highest weight in Fitch's SRM and are therefore highly relevant to the rating and a key rating driver with a high weight. As Belgium has a percentile rank above 50 for the respective governance indicator, this has a positive impact on the credit profile.

Belgium has an ESG Relevance Score of '5[+]' for Rule of Law, Institutional & Regulatory Quality and Control of Corruption as WBGI have the highest weight in Fitch's SRM and are therefore highly relevant to the rating and are a key rating driver with a high weight. As Belgium has a percentile rank above 50 for the respective governance indicator, this has a positive impact on the credit profile.

Belgium has an ESG Relevance Score of '4[+]' for Human Rights and Political Freedoms as the Voice and Accountability pillar of the WBGI is relevant to the rating and a rating driver. As Belgium has a percentile rank above 50 for the respective governance indicator, this has a positive impact on the credit profile.

Belgium has an ESG Relevance Score of '4[+]' for Creditor Rights as willingness to service and repay debt is relevant to the rating and is a rating driver for Belgium, as for all sovereigns. As Belgium has a record of 20+ years without a restructuring of public debt, which is captured in our SRM variable, this has a positive impact on the credit profile.

Except for the matters discussed above, the highest level of ESG credit relevance, if present, is a score of '3'. This means ESG issues are credit-neutral or have only a minimal credit impact on the entity, either due to their nature or to the way in which they are being managed by the entity. For more information on Fitch's ESG Relevance Scores, visit www.fitchratings.com/esg.

Fitch verlaagt haar vooruitzichten voor België naar negatief. Bij ratingverlaging gaat de rentesneeuwbal aan het rollen. Doordat België nooit voor de gehele termijn van haar schuldenfinanciering heeft kunnen lenen aan negatieve rente, en doordat ze indekpremie betaalde tegen rentestijgingen, leent ons land om interest en kosten op haar schulden te financieren.

[Xenophon]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door ViveLaBelgique

https://www.fitchratings.com/researc...-aa-10-03-2023

Fitch Ratings - Frankfurt am Main - 10 Mar 2023: Fitch Ratings has revised the Outlook on Belgium's Long-Term Foreign-Currency Issuer Default Rating (IDR) to Negative from Stable and affirmed the IDR at 'AA-'.

A full list of rating actions is at the end of this rating action commentary.
Key Rating Drivers

The revision of the Outlook reflects the following key rating drivers and their relative weights:

High

Persistently Wide Fiscal Deficits: Despite a gradual phase-out of temporary measures, we expect Belgium's fiscal balance to widen to 5.2% in 2023 from 4.0% in 2022, compared with the 2023 projected 'AA' median of 1.5%, as pension and healthcare costs rise substantially (according to National Bank of Belgium (NBB), aging-related expenditure will increase by 1.5% of GDP in 2023 compared with pre-pandemic levels). The budgetary impact from the automatic indexation of public sector wages will add to these pressures.

Absent fiscal consolidation, these structural factors will keep the Belgian fiscal deficit elevated in the medium term. According to our projections, the deficit will stabilise at around 5% of GDP from 2024 onwards in the no-policy change scenario, significantly higher than the 'AA' median at 0.8% of GDP and the eurozone weighted average at 3.3% of GDP.

Debt on Upward Trend: Under our baseline scenario, the general government debt/GDP ratio will remain on a gradual upward trend over the medium and long term. We expect the debt ratio to reach 107.0% of GDP in 2024, from 105.2% in 2022 and continue rising to 110.2% by 2027. The 2024 debt level would be 9.4% of GDP higher than in 2019 and more than 2x the current 'AA' median.

Rising debt service cost is adding to the fiscal pressures. The long maturity of Belgium's debt at above 10 years somewhat mitigates the pass-through of the higher financing costs. We expect the interest payments/revenue ratio to increase to 3.4% by 2024 from 2.8% in 2022, above the projected 'AA' rated median at 2.9%. Risks to the debt path are tilted to the downside, given the heightened uncertainty surrounding Belgium's short- and medium-term economic and fiscal outlook.

Limited Capacity to Address Pressures: Belgium's seven-party ruling coalition remains fragile and finding consensus on how to improve the long-term sustainability of public finances has proved challenging. Despite the government's effort to consolidate the public finances (it undertook an effort equal to 0.7% of GDP in fiscal consolidation measures in 2021-22), the projected medium-term fiscal deficits remain sizable. Recent pension and labour market reforms failed to deliver tangible budget savings. According to the Federal Planning Bureau, the recent pension reform will have a net negative impact on the budget.

In our view, it is unlikely the government will adopt fiscal consolidation measures that would narrow the fiscal deficit given upcoming federal parliamentary elections in 2024. Because of Belgium's very fragmented political landscape and the record of lengthy coalition negotiations (it took 541 days to form a coalition following the 2019 federal election), we see a risk of significant delay in the consolidation of the public finances, even if the EU fiscal rules are reinstated.

The 'AA-' IDRs also reflect the following key rating drivers:

Strong Credit Fundamentals: Belgium's ratings are supported by its diversified, high-value-added and wealthy economy, with GDP per capita at USD51,442, 1.1x the 'AA' rated median. Belgium's credit profile also benefits from very favourable governance indicators and the reserve currency status of the euro.

Economy Set to Slow: Real GDP growth in 2022 surprised on the upside, expanding by 3.1% compared to our expectation of 2.2% at our last review in September 2022. Private consumption has been the main driver of growth, largely due to the automatic wage indexation mechanisms, which limit the erosion of households' purchasing power due to inflation.

Despite the stronger-than-expected 2022 growth outturn, we have not revised our forecast for 2023 and 2024 and we continue to expect a material deceleration in economic growth, to 0.5% and 1.6% in 2022 and 2023, respectively. Higher-for-longer interest rates and phase-out of the government energy support are main drives of the unchanged forecasts.

Core Inflation Continues to Rise: Following a peak at 10.6% in October 2022, headline inflation measured by Harmonized Index of Consumer Prices (HICP) started to fall rapidly, reaching 5.5% in February 2023. The decline is driven by the recent fall in energy prices, which quickly feed through to Belgian inflation, given the predominance of household energy contracts linked to wholesale prices. However, core inflation continues to increase and reached 6.1% in January 2023.

We expect inflation to average 5.8% in 2023 and 3.3% in 2024, down from 10.3% in 2022. Despite the recent fall in energy prices, we note that the pass-through of energy cost to consumer prices has not yet been completed as companies continue renewing their energy contracts. Automatic wage indexation will also add to inflationary pressures.

Risks to Competitiveness: Automatic wage indexation means there is a higher risk of inflation pressures becoming more persistent. The vast majority of public and private sector wages are indexed to inflation, excluding the cost of alcohol, tobacco and fuel. Persistently higher inflation and nominal wage growth could ultimately erode the price competitiveness of the Belgian economy, especially if wage growth in the neighbouring countries is moderate. Given that Belgium is a small, open economy (exports account for 86% of GDP), deterioration in price competitiveness could dampen potential growth.

Sound Banking System: The Belgian banking sector is well positioned to withstand the economic period of economic slowdown and high inflation. Capitalisation remains strong (common equity Tier 1 ratio at 17.1% in 3Q22 according to NBB) and profitability is sound (return on equity at 9.4% in 3Q22). The second-round effects of lower economic growth and an increase in inflation, particularly energy, will have a moderate impact on asset quality from a healthy initial position (non-performing loans ratio at 1.4% at end-3Q22, according to NBB).

ESG - Governance: ESG - Governance: Belgium has an ESG Relevance Score (RS) of '5[+]' for both Political Stability and Rights and for the Rule of Law, Institutional and Regulatory Quality and Control of Corruption. These scores reflect the high weight that the World Bank Governance Indicators (WBGI) have in our proprietary Sovereign Rating Model (SRM). Belgium has a high WBGI ranking at 84.1, reflecting its long record of stable and peaceful political transitions, firmly established rights for participation in the political process, strong institutional capacity, effective rule of law and a low level of corruption.
RATING SENSITIVITIES
Factors that could, individually or collectively, lead to negative rating action/downgrade:

- Public Finances: Failure to reduce fiscal deficits leading to a continued increase in government debt over the medium term.

- Macro: Evidence that wage indexation will lead to deterioration in international competitiveness, putting pressures on Belgium's medium-term growth prospects.
Factors that could, individually or collectively, lead to positive rating action/upgrade:

- Public Finances: Confidence in the stabilisation of the public debt trajectory, for example, through the implementation of a credible fiscal consolidation strategy.

- Macro: Strengthening medium-term growth prospects, particularly if related to improvements in competitiveness and structural reform implementation.
Sovereign Rating Model (SRM) and Qualitative Overlay (QO)

Fitch's proprietary SRM assigns Belgium a score equivalent to a rating of 'A+' on the Long-Term Foreign-Currency (LT FC) IDR scale.

Fitch's sovereign rating committee adjusted the output from the SRM to arrive at the final LT FC IDR by applying its QO, relative to SRM data and output, as follows:

- Macro: +1 notch, to offset the deterioration in the SRM output driven by external shocks. The deterioration of Belgium's GDP growth and fiscal metrics reflect two very substantial and unprecedented exogenous shocks that have hit the vast majority of sovereigns, and Fitch believes that Belgium has the capacity to absorb it without lasting effects on its long-term macroeconomic stability.

Fitch's SRM is the agency's proprietary multiple regression rating model that employs 18 variables based on three-year centred averages, including one year of forecasts, to produce a score equivalent to a LT FC IDR. Fitch's QO is a forward-looking qualitative framework designed to allow for adjustment to the SRM output to assign the final rating, reflecting factors within our criteria that are not fully quantifiable and/or not fully reflected in the SRM.
Best/Worst Case Rating Scenario

International scale credit ratings of Sovereigns, Public Finance and Infrastructure issuers have a best-case rating upgrade scenario (defined as the 99th percentile of rating transitions, measured in a positive direction) of three notches over a three-year rating horizon; and a worst-case rating downgrade scenario (defined as the 99th percentile of rating transitions, measured in a negative direction) of three notches over three years. The complete span of best- and worst-case scenario credit ratings for all rating categories ranges from 'AAA' to 'D'. Best- and worst-case scenario credit ratings are based on historical performance. For more information about the methodology used to determine sector-specific best- and worst-case scenario credit ratings, visit https://www.fitchratings.com/site/re/10111579.
REFERENCES FOR SUBSTANTIALLY MATERIAL SOURCE CITED AS KEY DRIVER OF RATING

The principal sources of information used in the analysis are described in the Applicable Criteria.
ESG Considerations

Belgium has an ESG Relevance Score of '5[+]' for Political Stability and Rights as WBGI have the highest weight in Fitch's SRM and are therefore highly relevant to the rating and a key rating driver with a high weight. As Belgium has a percentile rank above 50 for the respective governance indicator, this has a positive impact on the credit profile.

Belgium has an ESG Relevance Score of '5[+]' for Rule of Law, Institutional & Regulatory Quality and Control of Corruption as WBGI have the highest weight in Fitch's SRM and are therefore highly relevant to the rating and are a key rating driver with a high weight. As Belgium has a percentile rank above 50 for the respective governance indicator, this has a positive impact on the credit profile.

Belgium has an ESG Relevance Score of '4[+]' for Human Rights and Political Freedoms as the Voice and Accountability pillar of the WBGI is relevant to the rating and a rating driver. As Belgium has a percentile rank above 50 for the respective governance indicator, this has a positive impact on the credit profile.

Belgium has an ESG Relevance Score of '4[+]' for Creditor Rights as willingness to service and repay debt is relevant to the rating and is a rating driver for Belgium, as for all sovereigns. As Belgium has a record of 20+ years without a restructuring of public debt, which is captured in our SRM variable, this has a positive impact on the credit profile.

Except for the matters discussed above, the highest level of ESG credit relevance, if present, is a score of '3'. This means ESG issues are credit-neutral or have only a minimal credit impact on the entity, either due to their nature or to the way in which they are being managed by the entity. For more information on Fitch's ESG Relevance Scores, visit www.fitchratings.com/esg.

Fitch verlaagt haar vooruitzichten voor België naar negatief. Bij ratingverlaging gaat de rentesneeuwbal aan het rollen. Doordat België nooit voor de gehele termijn van haar schuldenfinanciering heeft kunnen lenen aan negatieve rente, en doordat ze indekpremie betaalde tegen rentestijgingen, leent ons land om interest en kosten op haar schulden te financieren.

Goed nieuws.

Er zijn er hier die dachten dat het nooit kon gebeuren...

[Zipper]

Griekenland aan de Noordzee komt eraan

[Knuppel]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Vette Pois(s)on

en te zeggen dat dat allemaal vanzelve gaat verdwijnen

Vaneigens. Zoveel is zeker. De VLD-discipelen blijven De Croo zien als een groot staatsman.

[Knuppel]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Het Oosten

Deze regering doet wat ze kan en wat het beste is voor Jan en alleman. Zo zit het in mekaar. En al die kankeraars moeten het zelf maar eens proberen.

Hoera!!!!Alles kaat koet!

“Van alle EU-landen met een staatsschuld meer dan 100 procent van het bbp, is België het enige dat zijn schuld zal zien toenemen”



vrijdag 16 december 2022

De Belgische staatsschuld zal dit jaar groeien tot 106 procent van het bruto binnenlands product (bbp), volgens de laatste ramingen van de Europese Commissie. Erger nog: de Belgische economische groei zal naar verwachting de komende jaren dalen, in tegenstelling tot die van andere landen met een hoge schuldenlast.
Waarom is dit belangrijk?
Terwijl de ECB de rente verhoogt en haar massale obligatieaankopen zal inperken, verhoogt België zijn tekorten en schuld als geen ander land in Europa. Op het spel staat het vermogen van België om op de financiële markten te lenen tegen redelijke prijzen. Het risico is financiële onhoudbaarheid. Dat terwijl de criteria van Maastricht, bedoeld om voor stabiele prijzen in de eurozone te zorgen, ongetwijfeld weer zullen opduiken.

Het nieuws: België, de slechtste leerling van de Europese klas.

In haar laatste raming voorspelt de Europese Commissie een Belgische staatsschuld van 106,2 procent van het bbp in 2022.
Naast België zijn er slechts vijf andere landen in de EU met een schuld van meer dan 100 procent: Griekenland (171,1 procent), Italië (144,6 procent), Portugal (115,9 procent), Spanje (114 procent) en Frankrijk (111,7 procenten). Deze landen worden pejoratief aangeduid als de “Club Med-landen“, in tegenstelling tot de zuinige landen van het continent, die eerder in het noorden liggen: de Scandinavische naties, de Baltische staten, Nederland en Luxemburg.

Intussen is de Belgische staatsschuld nog met 2% toegenomen.
Nederland torst niet eens de helft van de Belgische schuld.
Hoe komt dat?

[Boduo]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Knuppel

Hoera!!!!Alles kaat koet!



Intussen is de Belgische staatsschuld nog met 2% toegenomen.
Nederland torst niet eens de helft van de Belgische schuld.
Hoe komt dat?

Hoe dat komt: er zitten daar geen Brusselaars en Walennin de regering.
Volgende stap: 1 triljoen € schulden.

[Knuppel]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Boduo

Hoe dat komt: er zitten daar geen Brusselaars en Walennin de regering.
Volgende stap: 1 triljoen € schulden.

Het is alleszins wéér de PS die zich verzet tegen de regels die de EU haar leden oplegt over de begrotingen.

Elk jaar moeten de Europese lidstaten hun begrotingsplannen aan de Europese Unie overhandigen. De Belgische regeringen blijken zich zo goed als nooit aan hun eigen budgettaire beloftes te houden.

Europa gaat opnieuw strenger toezien op de begrotingen van de lidstaten en dus ook op die van ons land. Dat belooft een pijnlijke zaak te worden, waar alvast de PS niet mee is opgezet. De Franstalige socialisten verzetten zich tegen zo’n ‘vorm van Europese curatele’.

https://www.knack.be/nieuws/belgie/b...oftes-niet-na/

De dweil wikt, en de PS beschikt.

[patrickve]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Zipper

Griekenland aan de Noordzee komt eraan

Joepie, iedereen rijdt dan met een Porsche

[patrickve]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Knuppel

Intussen is de Belgische staatsschuld nog met 2% toegenomen.
Nederland torst niet eens de helft van de Belgische schuld.
Hoe komt dat?

Omdat De Croo de staatsecretaris voor begroting te laat heeft buitengezwierd

[fox]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Knuppel

Het is alleszins wéér de PS die zich verzet tegen de regels die de EU haar leden oplegt over de begrotingen.



https://www.knack.be/nieuws/belgie/b...oftes-niet-na/

De dweil wikt, en de PS beschikt.

Do socialisten verzetten zich tegen een Europese curatele. Die wachten liever tot het land failliet is. En Decroo? Die stond er bij en keek ernaar. Zou iemand die het failliet van een land op zijn CV mag zetten, nog moeten rekenen op een Europees postje?

[Knuppel]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door fox

Do socialisten verzetten zich tegen een Europese curatele. Die wachten liever tot het land failliet is. En Decroo? Die stond er bij en keek ernaar. Zou iemand die het failliet van een land op zijn CV mag zetten, nog moeten rekenen op een Europees postje?

De regering Michel viel, en toch werd hij zelfs Europees president.

In den Belgique bestaan er machten waar wij geen benul van (mogen) hebben.

[Boduo]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Knuppel

De regering Michel viel, en toch werd hij zelfs Europees president.

In den Belgique bestaan er machten waar wij geen benul van (mogen) hebben.

Dat was in "1985" op VRT1 gisterenavond duidelijk !

[Knuppel]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Boduo

Dat was in "1985" op VRT1 gisterenavond duidelijk !

De VRT kan aan mijn Vlaamse reet roesten.

[reservespeler]

Voor het eerst in de geschiedenis heeft de federale overheid meer dan 500 miljard euro schulden

https://www.msn.com/nl-be/financien/...02cf96a0&ei=14


Eind september bedroeg de federale schuld 512,282 miljard euro, een toename met 18,73 miljard euro. Volgens de directeur van het Agentschap van de Schuld, Jean Deboutte, is het de eerste keer dat het bedrag de kaap van het half biljoen rondt. Het gaat voor alle duidelijkheid niet om de totale Belgische overheidsschuld, waarbij ook de verplichtingen van de gewesten, gemeenschappen en lokale overheden geteld zijn.

Dit is dus zonder al de andere schulden.
De staatsbon zou er voor iets tussen kunnen zitten.

Voor de rest is waarschijnlijk alles OK.

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Voor het eerst in de geschiedenis heeft de federale overheid meer dan 500 miljard euro schulden

https://www.msn.com/nl-be/financien/...02cf96a0&ei=14


Eind september bedroeg de federale schuld 512,282 miljard euro, een toename met 18,73 miljard euro. Volgens de directeur van het Agentschap van de Schuld, Jean Deboutte, is het de eerste keer dat het bedrag de kaap van het half biljoen rondt. Het gaat voor alle duidelijkheid niet om de totale Belgische overheidsschuld, waarbij ook de verplichtingen van de gewesten, gemeenschappen en lokale overheden geteld zijn.

Dit is dus zonder al de andere schulden.
De staatsbon zou er voor iets tussen kunnen zitten.

Voor de rest is waarschijnlijk alles OK.

[Boduo]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door reservespeler

Voor het eerst in de geschiedenis heeft de federale overheid meer dan 500 miljard euro schulden

https://www.msn.com/nl-be/financien/...02cf96a0&ei=14


Eind september bedroeg de federale schuld 512,282 miljard euro, een toename met 18,73 miljard euro. Volgens de directeur van het Agentschap van de Schuld, Jean Deboutte, is het de eerste keer dat het bedrag de kaap van het half biljoen rondt. Het gaat voor alle duidelijkheid niet om de totale Belgische overheidsschuld, waarbij ook de verplichtingen van de gewesten, gemeenschappen en lokale overheden geteld zijn.

Dit is dus zonder al de andere schulden.
De staatsbon zou er voor iets tussen kunnen zitten.

Voor de rest is waarschijnlijk alles OK.

Voor de rest...
Da's een goeie !