Uri Avnery over de oorlog:

[Volksstormer]

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Uiteraard. De enige verklaring is dat men in Israël leeft in een achtervolgingswaanzin die alle niet-Joden als latente antisemieten ziet die sowieso Joden wensen uit te moorden. Als ze je sowieso haten, wat je ook doet, dan kan je ze beter meteen vermoorden, natuurlijk. De posts van Polly zijn een goed voorbeeld hiervan.

Bemerk de - onzegbare - gelijkenis:


The controversial German nationalist philosopher and historian Ernst Nolte argues that the German reaction to Germany Must Perish! supports his contention that the Holocaust was a reasonable, if excessive, response to German fears of worldwide Jewish plot.[15] In answer to this claim, it has been pointed out that while the book was a welcome piece of propaganda, its actual impact on Nazi genocide policies was not notable, and that Nolte regards the radical views of a single American Jew as representative of all Jewish people worldwide.[16]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germany_Must_Perish!

[Kallikles]

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Bemerk de - onzegbare - gelijkenis:


The controversial German nationalist philosopher and historian Ernst Nolte argues that the German reaction to Germany Must Perish! supports his contention that the Holocaust was a reasonable, if excessive, response to German fears of worldwide Jewish plot.[15] In answer to this claim, it has been pointed out that while the book was a welcome piece of propaganda, its actual impact on Nazi genocide policies was not notable, and that Nolte regards the radical views of a single American Jew as representative of all Jewish people worldwide.[16]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germany_Must_Perish!

Dat is inderdaad een frappant voorbeeld van waartoe achtervolgingswaanzin kan leiden. De Duitsers zijn een extreem gecultiveerd volk. Maar zij voelden zich ingesloten en de angst heeft hen tot autoritarisme, oorlog en massamoord gedreven.

De Joden zijn ook een extreem gecultiveerd volk. Maar de cultivatie van de Holocaust als stichtingsmythe, het epos van de oorlogen van 1948 en 1967, het gevoel omringd zijn door vijandige staten en volkeren leidt tot militarisme, oorlog en massamoord.

[lombas]

Uri Avnery is blijkbaar geen legitieme bron - misschien is een gekende Israel-fanaat en paleoconservatief als Peter Hitchens dat wel? Laat ons eens zien wat dié zegt:

Actually, Israel will lose this contest in the end, since the demographics of the area mean that it will be increasingly difficult to maintain a Jewish majority even within the boundaries of the pre-1967 state. More or less desperate measures, such as the encouragement of Russian immigration in the 1990s, have already backfired quite severely. Many of the Russian Jews turned out not to be Jewish in any identifiable way

This is simply mistaken about the nature of the threat, and seems to be based on the idea that naked force is the decisive issue in this dispute. Israel's existence is not threatened by rocket attacks from Gaza. The most pressing threat to Israel's existence (apart from demographics) lies in its potential loss of diplomatic, military and popular consent in the USA and Europe, which will lead to Israel being dragged to a super-Madrid conference and forced to make concessions (including a 'right of return' which will destroy it as a Jewish state). I do not know whether a President Obama will be specially hostile to Israel( he cannot be much more hostile than was the 'conservative'George Bush senior and his Secretary of State James Baker). But this behaviour will certainly make it easier for any anti-Israel factions in his administration to press the case for a renewed 'peace process'in which Israel makes all the concessions. Bombing Gaza makes such a conference more likely.