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Oud 22 juli 2011, 21:07   #41
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het is nogthans eenvoudig, in deze tijd van het internet. Het grote probleem is de immobiele massa die zich als levende doden laten leiden, ipv zelf hun leven in handen te nemen, zich te organiseren, en stellen dat het nu genoeg is geweest...
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het is nogthans eenvoudig, in deze tijd van het internet. Het grote probleem is de immobiele massa die zich als levende doden laten leiden, ipv zelf hun leven in handen te nemen, zich te organiseren, en stellen dat het nu genoeg is geweest...
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Pas als ze hun geld verliezen, honger en de koude beleven... zullen ze reageren, zonder goed te weten hoe? of wat?
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Het verschil tussen nu en 1798 was dat de massa destijds arm en hongerig was. Derhalve bereid om wat koppen te laten rollen. Heden is de massa niet meer bereid zich te organiseren met het doel zich te ontdoen van een politiek die geen toekomst biedt.
Het probleem - en dat zul je moeten kunnen beredeneren - is dat er geen contragewicht aanwezig is om de (politieke) lacune op een redelijke wijze op te vullen.

Maar dat het zo niet langer gaat wordt wel duidelijk.
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het is nogthans eenvoudig, in deze tijd van het internet. Het grote probleem is de immobiele massa die zich als levende doden laten leiden, ipv zelf hun leven in handen te nemen, zich te organiseren, en stellen dat het nu genoeg is geweest...
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Zelfs hier op P.be waar je zou denken dat er geïnteresseerde en kritische burgers rond wandelen vind je puur geïndoctrineerde dummies ...
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We leven derhalve ook in een (zeer) trieste samenleving.

Alleen de oorlog ontbreekt nog ...........
Die van Blair hebben ze dan toch gehad...
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Er zal wel wat gesaneerd worden, Murdoch vloog de muur in...
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De grootste schuldigen zijn uiteindelijk diegenen die,iedere dag weer,en dan speciaal in het VK,dat bedrukt vuil kopen in de kiosken....We WETEN nu hoe die gazetten aan hun informatie raken(redakties zijn betrokken in akties waarvoor politie en geheime diensten bijzonder zwaar onder vuur zouden komen,en waarvoor komplete rechtszaken ineen zouden storten moest ongeoorloofd afluisteren op tafel komen).....


Als tientallen miljoenen Britten hun centjes in hun zakken zouden houden in plaats van die rotzooi kopen,dan lost het probleem zich vanzelf op,en wordt journalist weer een serieus beroep,in plaats van dat van informatieverzamelaar en primeurschrijver ten koste van werkelijk alles,tot eer en geweten toe....
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Daar valt zeker wat voor te zeggen. Maar in de onderste regionen van de Britse samenleving wordt dit soort journalistiek gevroten. Zolang het smakelijk, kleurrijk en niet al te opvallend leugenachtig, kan alles.
De upperclass heeft er alles aan gedaan de industrie te vernietigen en de werkloosheid in GB is navanant groot. Einde van een imperialistisch tijdperk.

Voor expats is het vernieuwen van een paspoort een vrijwel onmogelijke zaak geworden.
Behalve de kostprijs van het document dat astronomisch is moet men naar Parijs om het te laten verlengen c.q. vernieuwen.
Chaos ten top.
Het kan ook via internet, maar kan alleen met een creditkaart worden betaald. De daartoe benodigde formulieren laten zich vooralsnog niet downloaden.
Daar sta je dan....... Een voorbeeld van maatschappelijke verpaupering .........
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Volgend artikel van 29 Maart 2011 beschrijft hoe de spanning tussen Soros(Media Matters) en Murdoch(News Corp) hoog oploopt.

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The first inkling we had that the disciples of George Soros and his Media Matters minions were planning a frontal assault on the First Amendment came early last week when the Washington Post published an article describing liberals attending a boot camp to train them to do battle with Fox News. The article describes Media Matters’ obsession with training “camera-ready liberals” to counter what it perceives as the pervasive evil of Roger Ailes, Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity, and the rest over at Rupert Murdoch’s network.

A few days later, Ben Smith, writing for Politico, sketched out what David Brock, a former staff writer for The American Spectator – a monthly funded in part by the media mogul and CIA operative Richard Mellon Scaife – had in mind for Fox and other media operations, in particular alternative media operations.

Brock told Smith what he has in mind – nothing short of an all-out jihad against the opposition. “Brock listed the fronts on which Media Matters — which he said is operating on a $10 million-plus annual budget — is working to chip away at Fox and its parent company, News Corp.
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Brock and crew are now digging deep to find the dirt he believes will sink Murdoch’s dinosaur media Titanic – or at least take some wind out of its sails. Brock’s bull dogs will also target News Corp shareholders, target commercial interests of the network, and will try to sic government regulators on the corporation. In short, it will pull out all the stops. MoveOn.org and other Democrat organizations are now enlisted in the effort to attack Fox (it should be noted that MoveOn.org is also funded by George Soros and his wife, Susan Weber Soros).
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Fox and the rest of the corporate media will eventually disappear, or dwindle to a lilliputian size and become more or less politically irrelevant. Media Matters itself admits as much when it cites stats revealing that the Fox News darling Glenn Beck haslost a significant portion of his audience. It is as abysmal, if not worse, for the rest of the corporate news media, according to Nielsen Media Research and others. MSNBC, the pride of progressives, is especially afflicted.
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Brock and his flock will expend an extraordinary amount of energy attacking and slandering Fox while at the same time devoting resources to attack “conservative” websites. Politico’s Smith does not reveal what websites in particular Media Matters will go after, but it is easy enough to figure out – Alex Jones’ flagship websites, Infowars.com and Prison Planet.com, the former at the apex of alternative news websites and the latter within striking distance.

Media Matters has covered Jones extensively – even obsessively – as this list of articlesreveals. The titles displayed reveal that Media Matters and its Soros operatives are paying very close attention to Alex Jones, the liberty and 9/11 truth movements. They often claim Glenn Beck apes Jones.



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Soros announces FIRST ever contribution to Media Matters
October 20, 2010 1:42 pm ET


Washington, DC - Today, George Soros, founder and chairman of the Open Society Foundations, and David Brock, founder and CEO of Media Matters for America, are issuing statements on Mr. Soros' decision to support Media Matters with his first ever contribution.

Statement from George Soros:
...I have now decided to support the organization. Media Matters is one of the few groups that attempts to hold Fox News accountable for the false and misleading information they so often broadcast.

Statement from David Brock:
...From the moment in early 2009 that Roger Ailes enlisted Glenn Beck to the Fox News Channel's new agenda -- a battle to overturn the 2008 election results that Ailes likened to the "The Alamo" -- Fox has transformed itself into a 24-7 GOP attack machine, dividing Americans through fear-mongering and falsehoods and undermining the legitimacy of our government for partisan political ends. Worse still, in recent months, Fox has allowed Glenn Beck's show to become an out-of-control vehicle for the potential incitement of domestic terrorism. No American should be quiet about these developments -- the degradation of our media and the reckless endangerment of innocent lives. George Soros, a philanthropist of the highest integrity, unfortunately knows first-hand what it's like to be grotesquely caricatured and flatly lied about on Fox.

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Uit een artikel ivm FOX, Glenn Beck, Alex Jones van Media Matters
1 Augustus 2011

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Attack On DHS Travels From Conspiracy-Monger Alex Jones To Fox News
August 01, 2011

A story about a Department of Homeland Security video that began at a website operated by radio host Alex Jones and was then covered on Fox News is just the latest example of how Fox has been moving increasingly toward pushing the conspiratorial views of Jones.

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After Alex Jones Took Credit For Pushing Fox News To The Fringe...

Jones: "Fox News Is An Alex Jones Wannabe." On his radio show, Jones praised then-Fox News host Glenn Beck for helping to mainstream the conspiratorial views of Federal Reserve critic G. Edward Griffin, claiming that "Fox News is an Alex Jones wannabe," and adding that "We've pushed Fox News, greedy to have the biggest market share, to tell some of the truth." [Genesis Communication Network, The Alex Jones Show, 3/28/11]

Jones: "Beck Goes From A Mainline Conservative To Having G. Edward Griffin On." Jones commended Beck for doing "a great thing" in having anti-Federal Reserve author G. Edward Griffin on his show. According to Jones, his conspiracy theories are "now mainstream news" as "the train is pulling into the station." He went on to explain Fox News' role in bringing these theories to light:

And so out comes Fox News two years ago with Dick Morris saying, "Hey, the conspiracy theorists were wrong about world government, U.N. takeover, global currency. But now they're right." That's a quote. And so Beck goes from a mainline conservative to having G. Edward Griffin on for over 30 minutes Friday. [Genesis Communication Network, The Alex Jones Show, 3/28/11]

Jones: Fox News Is "Moving More Towards What Beck Was Doing." Discussing Beck's departure from Fox News, Jones noted that Beck "basically said what we've been saying for years, that the mainstream media is imploding." Jones added:

Just three years ago, when he joined Fox -- two and a half years ago -- Fox said there's no such thing as a world government, no such thing as the Council on Foreign Relations, no such thing as the Bilderberg Group, they would not speak its name. Since then, it's all over their channels, and you see Hannity, you see all of them moving more towards what Beck was doing. So basically, they're getting rid of Beck so they can just basically take my information, hence his information, and spin it in a Republicanoid way. [Genesis Communication Network, The Alex Jones Show, 4/7/11]

... Fox News Is Now Turning To Alex Jones For News

Jones Website Infowars: "DHS Video Characterizes White Americans As Most Likely Terrorists." From a July 21 article on Alex Jones' Infowars website:

A new promotional video released by the Department of Homeland Security characterizes white middle class Americans as the most likely terrorists, as Big Sis continues its relentless drive to cement the myth that mad bombers are hiding around every corner, when in reality Americans are just as likely to be killed by lightning strikes or peanut allergies.

The video is part of Homeland Security's $10 million dollar "See Something, Say Something" program that encourages Americans to report "suspicious activity," which in every case throughout history has been a trait of oppressive, dictatorial regimes.

[Infowars.com, 7/21/11]
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Fox Nation Picks Up Infowars Item. A Fox Nation post reproduces the first paragraph of the Infowars article, then provides a link to the article. [Fox Nation, 7/21/11]

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Media Matters claims Glenn Beck has channeled Alex Jones by having G. Edward Griffin on his show. According to Media Matters, Griffin is a conspiracy theorist because he talks about and criticizes the Federal Reserve. Media Matters says Jones is linked to the establishment media operation Fox because he praised Beck and Fox for telling the truth about the Federal Reserve, something the rest of the corporate media strenuously avoids.

Soros, the New Democrats, MoveOn.org and their associated “progressive” comrades have made a cottage industry out of attacking Fox News. They aim to destroy the “right-wing” establishment network by linking it to Alex Jones.

The effort is backfiring. Conflating Beck and Fox with Alex Jones and Griffin drives more people to the websites of Jones and Griffin where they read the truth about the Federal Reserve and the bankers and their plan to decimate the economy and create a global authoritarian government and usher in a neo-feudal system.

Infowars.com and PrisonPlanet.com have not invented this plot. Aspects are routinely covered by the corporate media – including Fox News – as positive.
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Werden de emails van News International massaal gewist

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Phone hacking: News International mass-deleted emails, tech firm says
HCL reveals News International's various requests for deletion but tells MPs it knew of nothing untoward

The technology firm HCL has told the home affairs select committee it was aware of the deletion of hundreds of thousands of emails at the request of News International between April 2010 and July 2011, but said it did not know of anything untoward behind the requests to delete them.

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Eleventh arrest in UK tabloid hacking scandal


(Reuters) - Stuart Kuttner, managing editor of the News of the World for 22 years, was arrested and later freed on bail on Tuesday over a phone-hacking scandal at the now-defunct tabloid that has rattled Britain's establishment, a source close to the case said.

Police said a 71-year-old man had been released on bail to an unspecified date later this month after being arrested on suspicion of corruption and conspiring to intercept communications.
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De Soros machine valt Murdoch aan...

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Using U.K. phone hacking scandal to go after Fox News Channel


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Posted on WND.com-By Aaron Klein-On July 22, 2011:
“A slew of organizations funded by billionaire George Soros have been utilizing the alleged News of the World phone hacking scandal in the U.K. to call for investigations of News Corporation’s U.S. interests, particularly Fox News Channel.
The Center for American Progress, heavily financed by Soros, said it gathered 12,000 signatures demanding to know whether News Corp. reporters violated U.S. law by obtaining phone records in the U.S.
The center is reportedly highly influential in helping to craft White House policy. It is led by John Podesta, who served as co-chairman of Obama’s presidential transition team.
Podesta this week told reporters his group wants the U.S. division of News Corp. probed for other possible offenses, including violation of the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act, which prosecutes for bribery of foreign officials.
“We’ve called attention to the fact that – News Corp. is a U.S.-based corporation; that could implicate the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act,” he said.
Already, Podesta’s signature drive was cited in part for Democratic Sens. Jay Rockefeller and Barbara Boxer sending a letter to Attorney General Eric Holder requesting an investigation into claims News Corp. may have hacked the phones of 9/11 victims.
The center’s offshoot, Think Progress, has been leading Twitter and Facebook campaigns calling for investigations into Rupert Murdoch’s U.S. media empire.
Think Progress even alleged News Corp. could have been involved in the November 2009 email hacking of a climate research institute that showed climate scientists conspiring to rig data in the direction of so-called global warming.
“But we still don’t know who hacked the emails!” contended Think Progress in an article entitled “News Corp and the Hacked Climategate Emails: Time for an Independent Investigation.”
Podesta’s center is also going after the Wall Street Journal. ClimateProgress.org, a project of the Center for American Progress Action Fund, this week published an article entitled “Connecting the Dots from News Corp Scandal to the Lies of Fox News and the Wall Street Journal.” Think Progress also published the piece.
“There is a cancer on the U.S. media,” began the article. “That cancer is the disinformation machine aimed at spreading and endlessly repeating the most absurd falsehoods on a host of vital issues to the health and well being of Americans.”

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Fox News, Tea Party 'dictatorial'

Soros himself once was invested in News Corp. His Soros Fund Management LLC, managed News Corp. shares worth $4 million in 2004 and $2.3 million when sold in 2009.

Still, Soros has been a vocal opponent of the Fox News Channel. In a conversation with CNN newsman Fareed Zakaria reported by the Huffington Post last December, Soros warned the combination of Fox News, its then-host Glenn Beck and the tea party might lead "this open society to be on the verge of some dictatorial democracy."

According to the report, "Soros was especially bitter and harshly critical of the role played in our political discourse by the Fox News Channel, owned by Rupert Murdoch's News Corp., as a very dangerous precedent for the 'open society' that has prevailed in the U.S. for 200 years."

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‘Could This Be the End of Rupert Murdoch and Fox News?’!
Posted on CNSNews.com-By Susan Jones-On July 22, 2011:
“(CNSNews.com) – The liberal activist group MoveOn.org says it is launching a campaign “to build unavoidable public pressure for full investigations” into Rupert Murdoch’s U.S. news outlets – including Fox News, a favorite target of liberals.
“Could this be the end of Rupert Murdoch and Fox News?” the group asked in a July 21 email message to supporters.
According to MoveOn.org, “the key is to find out how far Fox and rest of Murdoch’s news outlets went here in the U.S. If they’ve been as corrupt and criminal here as it looks like they’ve been in the U.K., then we might just see Murdoch’s media empire crumble.”
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Buiten politieke redenen heeft Soros ook zogenaamde 'persoonlijke' redenen om tegen FOX te strijden...

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Rabbis Want Glenn Beck, Roger Ailes to Stop Fox News' Holocaust Comparisons


A coalition of some 400 rabbis has published an open letter to Fox News Channel owner Rupert Murdoch, calling on the media mogul to discipline Roger Ailes, president of Fox News, and Glenn Beck, the cable channel's incendiary and popular host, for exploiting the Holocaust in their comments.

In particular they were upset over Beck's attacks on liberal magnate George Soros and Jewish leaders.
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A spokesman for the group that organized the letter initiative, Jewish Funds for Justice, said the ad cost $100,000. Earlier this month the group organized a letter-writing campaign asking Murdoch to remove Beck from the air. Soros has in the past donated to Jewish Funds for Justice.

In a comment to Reuters, a Fox News executive dismissed the coalition of rabbis as "a George Soros-backed left-wing political organization that has been trying to engage Glenn Beck primarily for publicity purposes."
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In their letter, the rabbis note that Beck has made "literally hundreds of on-air references to the Holocaust and Nazis when characterizing people with whom he disagrees"; he compares American leaders he does not like to Nazis
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"And George Soros used to go around with this anti-Semite and deliver papers to the Jews and confiscate their property and then ship them off," Beck said on one of the programs. "And George Soros was part of it. He would help confiscate the stuff. It was frightening. Here's a Jewish boy helping send Jews to the death camps."

(Soros has said that he hid with a Christian family to escape the Nazis, and that he was present when his so-called godfather inventoried property confiscated from Jews who had been deported.)

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De dochter van Rupert Murdoch mag niet in het News Corporation board.

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Elisabeth Murdoch will not join News Corporation board

News Corp's independent directors agreed that Elisabeth Murdoch's nomination should be delayed

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The daughter of Rupert Murdoch will not join the board of her father's News Corporation conglomerate as had been expected, the company has announced.

News Corp said Elisabeth Murdoch, 42, told its directors that it would be "inappropriate" to join the board.

She was expected to join the News Corp board after it bought Shine Group, the televison production company she runs.

In February, her father said he expected her to make the move after the £415m deal had been completed.

However, in a statement, Viet Dinh, chairman of the nominating and corporate governance committee of the News Corporation board of directors, said Ms Murdoch had "suggested to the independent directors some weeks ago that she felt it would be inappropriate to include her nomination to the board of News Corp".
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Coulson, Murdoch & Cameron

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Phone hacking: Andy Coulson's 'News International payments continued' while he worked for David Cameron
David Cameron, the Prime Minister, faces "serious questions" over claims his former communications chief received several hundred thousand pounds from News International while he was employed by the Conservatives, Labour said.




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James Murdoch in opspraak

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James Murdoch declines $6m bonus over NoW controversy

James Murdoch said he did not know the full extent of phone hacking at the News of the World

2 September 2011 Last updated at 20:04

News International boss James Murdoch has declined a $6m (£3.7m) bonus, citing the "current controversy" over phone hacking at the News of the World.

His father, News Corp boss Rupert, received a $12.5m (£7.7) bonus. His total remuneration for the year to 30 June was $33.3m (£20.5m), up 47%.

James Murdoch saw his pay packet rise 74% to $17m, but said declining the bonus was the "right thing to do".

The phone-hacking scandal led to the closure of the News of the World.

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Veel erger is daT Rupert bezig is de anti-CO2 wetgeving in Australië te kelderen
Dan moet ik mijn mening over Murdoch herzien.

Op welke manier doet hij dat dan ? Heb je een linkje ?
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