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![]() Ik denk ook wel dat de EU met de voeten van Turkije speelt en dat al lang. Ofwel beslist de EU dat ze geen Europees land zijn en dus geen lid kunnen worden ofwel laten ze lid worden. Turkije is het land dat al het langst in de "voorrondes" zit .... het wordt tijd dat de EU een positie inneemt en niet blijft pendelen tussen de Amerikaanse druk wegens de geopolitieke ligging van Turkije en wantrouwen tov overwegend Islamitische landen.
Het wordt altijd aangehaald dat Turkije de mensenrechten naleeft en daarbij wordt verwezen naar de problematiek met de Koerden. Dit klopt waarschijnlijk wel, maar wat dan met de zigeuners in Roemenië, Tsjechië, russen in Baltische staten, enz. |
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Ik vertrouw nog steeds wat Kurdistan Report schrijft dan wat u hier beweert. Zolang Turkije de Koerden vervolgt en in hun culturele en politieke rechten schendt, zal het geen kans maken om tot de EU toegelaten te worden. |
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De veranderingen die in Turkije gebeuren, gebeuren slechts op papier. Voor de rest niets nieuws: Turkije blijft een legerdictatuur met een vernislaagje democratie. |
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Wist u trouwens dat de Griekse overheid al sedert vele jaren een onderwijsakkoord heeft met Turkije? Dit houdt in dat een aantal Turkse leerboeken van het lager en middelbaar onderwijs in het Grieks onderwijs worden gebruikt. |
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In ieder geval, Turkije hoort niet thuis in Europa. Het is een Aziatisch land, met een islamitische bevolking, dat daarenboven weinig echt democratische geplogenheden kent en alles bij elkaar gerekend nog een ontwikkelingsland is. |
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Misc. Docs. Directory From: News distribution manager <[email protected]> The following document was composed by the Pan-Imvrian Committee of Athens, an association of refugees from the islands Imvros and Tenedos, and was published, among others, in the Greek-language newspaper of New York City "National Herald" (Ethnikos Kirikas). George Marinides translated and typed the article. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- IMVROS and TENEDOS 70 years after the signing of the Treaty of Lausanne Imvros and Tenedos are two small islands in Northern Aegean Sea between Greece and Turkey, strategically located outside the Straits of the Dardanelles, the only communication between the Black Sea and the Mediterranean. In 1923, after the end of a war between Greece and Turkey, the two countries signed the Treaty of Lausanne, which, among other things, provided for the handing over of these two islands to Turkey, even though at that time they were under the control of Greece and their population had always been exclusively Greek. The reason for such provision was purely geopolitical, i.e. to secure control of the Straits by Turkey. In exchange the Treaty (article 14 and articles 37-44 of the 3rd section) provided for a special administrative status of the islands that guaranteed protection of life and property, free use of the native language (Greek), religious freedom, and generally all human rights. These articles of the Treaty were considered "Basic Laws", which, it was agreed, Turkey would have no right to abrogate through any other law, regulation or administrative act. Seventy years have passed since the signing of the Treaty of Lausanne. There was information in the Turkish press that Turkey is preparing to celebrate that occasion. It would be appropriate then to see how Turkey "honored" its signature regarding these two islands. The same concern pertains as to how the provisions of the Treaty about the Greek community of Constantinople (Istanbul) were violated by Turkey, but this should become the subject of another discussion. In any case, we believe that the following should be known by all people concerned with human rights and rights of minorities, about the condition of the native population in these two islands. (1) In September of 1923, immediately after the islands were handed over to Turkey, article 14 was violated by the appointment of a Turkish governor instead of a governor from the local Greek population, as the Treaty clearly provided for. In violation of the same article, control of the police, courts, customs, and port authorities, came under the Turks. (2) Sixty four lawyers, doctors, teachers, and merchants were characterized as "collaborators of the (previous) Greek regime" and proclaimed "undesirables". An additional 1500 persons were denied return to their homes because they had abandoned the islands before September 1923 (a violation of the 15th protocol regarding amnesty, attached to the Treaty). (3) In 1927 a new law was voted in the Turkish Parliament (Law 1151), that made official the previous administrative measures, despite the statements in the Treaty that no law could override its provisions. (4) During World War II, a property tax (the notorious Varlik kanunu ) was imposed, which called for taxes arbitrarily fixed at many times above the total worth of the property of the islanders, in an obvious attempt to financially ruin the population (violation of articles 39 and 40). (5) At the same time, real estate properties of Christian monasteries, which offered sustenance to many families, were confiscated and given to ethnic Turks brought over from the eastern parts of Turkey; very quickly these newcomers leveled down the churches and other buildings of the monasteries in violation of articles 38, 39, 40, and 42 of the Treaty. (6) Men of the islands between the ages of 20-40 were at that time conscripted in the Turkish Army and sent to the infamous "labor battalions" (amele taburu), where they were subjected to forced labor in the harsh winter conditions of the mountains of Eastern Turkey and Kurdistan (violation of articles 39 and 40). (7) The bishop of the islands and the leaders of the local communities were arrested and exiled to Anatolia (eastern Turkey), thus leaving the local population leaderless (violation of articles 38, 39 and 40). (8 ) In 1964 the Turkish authorities confiscated the school buildings of the local community (kindergarten, grammar school and high school) together with their furniture, libraries and teaching equipment. The teachers were fired and were not even allowed to get a job in the minority schools in Constantinople. Teaching the Greek language was not allowed even at home and the Greek children were forced to learn only Turkish (violation of articles 38, 39, 40, 41 and 42). (9) In 1964 the Turkish Parliament voted Law 6830 "on land expropriation" , that according to its Article 5 gave the right to the "designated civil authorities to expropriate land, without being limited by any previous legal arrangements, and to adjust the amount of compensation according to their own subjective judgment". Eventually about 98% of all fertile and arable land was expropriated at prices equivalent to the worth of a basket of eggs in the local market, thus having been confiscated for all intents and purposes. In 1964 about 6,150 acres of arable land was owned by the Greek inhabitants of the islands. In 1990, after all these virtual confiscations only 16 acres were left in their hands. On top of that, pastures, that traditionally had been used for sheep grazing, were characterized as "forested" or "about to be reforested" state lands, on which the local people no longer had the right to bring their flocks. Thus the people, mostly farmers and shepherds, were deprived of their farms, olive groves, vineyards, orchards and pastures. Next to these measures, the few remaining water sources next to the villages were diverted toward army barracks or state-owned farms taking away from the locals even the ability to cultivate the little gardens in their yards. And, finally, together with the land, the authorities confiscated any farmhouses and any other installations in the farming areas, and prohibited even the passage of the former owners through those areas (violation of articles 38, 39, 40 and 42). In order to further terrorize the local population, the following also took place: (10) "Open farm prisons" (agir ceza) were created on Imvros, where some of the worst inmates from other prisons of the country were transferred. These criminals were allowed to freely roam the island, terrorize, loot, rape and murder the people of the islands (violation of articles 38, 39, 40 and 42). (11) An army regiment was moved to the islands and the soldiers were allowed to destroy farmhouses and country chapels, to rob, beat, rape and murder local people. Military outposts were installed within inhabited areas and did the same things there (violation of articles 38, 39, 40, 42). (12) A teachers' college/boarding house was founded for 800 students transferred there from mainland Turkey; the main "teaching courses" had to do with terrorizing the local population and raping local women (violation of articles 38, 39 and 42). (13) Out of 262 country chapels of Imvros, 248 were desecrated and looted and are now used as stables, army outposts, warehouses and latrines, or were demolished and the building materials used to make army barracks and prisons. The historical cathedral in the village of Kastro (dated from the 16th century) was put on fire and its ruins are now used as a stable. The people of the island were not allowed to repair the cathedral even at their own expense (violations of articles 38, 40, 42 of the Treaty). (14) On the night of the Turkish invasion of Cyprus (July 1974) all the inhabitants of the village of Kastro were forced to abandon their houses. Then the cemetery of the village was desecrated and the bones of the dead were scattered into the ravine next to the village (violation of articles 38, 39, 40 42). (15) The Imvrians and Tenedians that lived abroad were stripped of their Turkish citizenship, thus losing their "civil rights" and the ability to return to their ancestral homes (violation of articles 38, 39, 40). (16) Soon this officially tolerated terror reached the point of murders of local people. In September 1973 freely wandering prison inmates assassinated Stelios Kavalleros, a merchant from the village of Panaghia. His mutilated body was found by his neighbors in the bottom of a well. In the summer of 1977, Styliani Zouni, a mother of two young children, was raped and then murdered by a Turkish soldier in the village of Aghioi Theodoroi. In July of 1980, George Viglis from the village of Schinoudi was tortured and murdered by prison inmates in his farmhouse. In 1983 two more Imvrians, Eustratios Stylianides and Nicholas Ladas were assassinated by settlers from mainland Turkey, the former in the village of Schinoudi and the latter in the village of Panaghia. In November of 1990 Zaphiris Deliconstantis, the mayor of the village of Glyky, was assassinated by a Turkish immigrant. Of all these assassins none has been arrested or convicted so far (violation of articles 38, 39, 40). (17) The ethnic composition of the islands' population was forcibly altered through the mandatory settling of ethnic Turks from the mainland. Such people were brought to the islands, were given state subsidies, and were housed in complexes built specifically for them, or in the houses of Greeks forcibly taken away from their previous owners. The lands and property confiscated from the Greek native population were also handed out to these settlers (violations of articles 14, 39, 40). As a consequence of all these and other acts of commission or omission by the Government of the Turkish Republic, the Greek Imvrians and Tenedians were forced to desert their hearths, where their ancestors had lived for more than 3,000 years, and to scatter as refugees all over the world. In 1960, according to the official census there were 5,487 Greeks and 289 Turks in Imvros. Today there are 300 Greeks and 7,900 Turks on that island. Less than 50 Greeks remain in Tenedos. http://www.hri.org/docs/inter/93-10-06.doc.html |
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![]() Laten we het niet hebben over de schending van de rechten van de Turkse minderheid op cyprus in de jaren 60 en 70 door de Griekse meerderheid. Met oude koeien uit de sloot halen bereik je niets. Tussen Turkije en Griekenland is er een periode van ontspanning. De handel tussen de landen neemt ook gestaag toe. Turkije heeft het afgelopen jaar 70% meer uitgevoerd naar Griekenland. Ik weet niet hoeveel procent Griekenland meer heeft uitgevoerd naar Turkije maar die cijfer zal ook behoorlijk hoog zijn. Als deze ontwikkeling zich voortzet zullen de twee landen alleen maar afhankelijker van elkaar worden.
D66 kamerleden zijn net teruggekomen van een bezoek aan Turkije en ze waren zeer positief over de ontwikkelingen die Turkije doormaakt en de wil om nog meer te veranderen bij zowel de regeringspartij als de oppositie. |
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![]() D66 onder indruk van Turkije
De D66-delegatie die op werkbezoek is geweest in Turkije zegt positief te zijn over de hervormingen die plaatsvinden in Turkije. "Je moet wel onder de indruk zijn van het tempo en de inzet waarmee Turkije hervormingen doorvoert," zegt Sophie in 't Veld, Europees lijsttrekker voor D66 aan het slot van het bezoek. Uit de gesprekken met regerings- en oppositiepartijen blijkt dat er een brede steun is voor het behalen van de voorwaarden voor het EU-lidmaatschap inzake democratie, mensenrechten en markteconomie, aldus Dennis Hesseling, een van de delegatieleden. De delegatie is wel van mening dat er tussen nu en december vooral vooruitgang geboekt moet worden met de implementatie van de hervormingen. D66 is voorstander van het EU-lidmaatschap voor Turkije, maar benadrukt dat met name het aspect van de mensenrechten goed in de gaten moet worden gehouden. Het doel van het werkbezoek was een oriëntatie op mogelijke partners voor samenwerking met het oog op de toekomstige toetreding van Turkije tot de EU. De vier delegatieleden, naast In 't Veld en Hesseling waren Emily van de Vijver en Fatma Koser Kaya ook in Turkije, keren zaterdag tegen 15.00 uur terug op Schiphol. bron : Nieuws.nl |
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![]() Turkish Minority Rights Violated in Greece
(JANUARY 8, 1999) -- Ethnic Turks in Greece face continued serious discrimination in the enjoyment of language, religious, and educational rights, according to a report released today by Human Rights Watch. The report, which updates 1990 and 1992 studies, notes significant progress in recent years but calls for continued improvements in the rights enjoyed by approximately 100,000 ethnic Turks in Greece. Greece has enacted a number of discriminatory measures to force ethnic Turks to migrate to Turkey or to disrupt community life and weaken its cultural basis. The most egregious example was Article 19 of the Citizenship Law, which, until it was abolished in 1998, allowed the state to strip approximately 60,000 non-ethnic Greeks of their citizenship between 1955 and 1998. Human Rights Watch welcomed abolition of the law last year, but noted that it did not apply retroactively, so tens of thousands of ethnic Turks remain wrongfully deprived of their Greek citizenship. A 1990 law granted the state wide-ranging powers in appointing the mufti, the Turkish community's religious leader who also serves as an Islamic judge in civil matters. In defiance of the law, the Turkish community has continued to elect its religious leaders, who have been prosecuted and imprisoned by Greek authorities. In addition, the repair of mosques is sometimes blocked by state authorities, and those involved in the repair are prosecuted. Human rights violations in the education field affect the largest number of individuals and have done the most to foster economic underdevelopment among the Turkish minority. Turkish children attend schools that are overcrowded and poorly funded compared to those attended by ethnic Greeks. And the two Turkish-language high schools in Western Thrace can provide only a fraction of the needed places, resulting in a disproportionate drop-out rate. In addition, Human Rights Watch has received credible complaints from members of the ethnic Turkish minority, alleging police surveillance, discrimination in public employment, and restrictions on freedom of expression. Representatives of Human Rights Watch and the Greek Helsinki Monitor were trailed by police operatives in Thrace whileconducting research for the report. For Further Information: Holly Cartner in New York, 1-212-216-1277 Lotte Leicht in Brussels, 32-2-732-2009 http://hrw.org/press/1999/jan/gree0108.htm |
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![]() Hier heb je zo een Koerdische politica die op vreedzame wijze Koerdische rechten probeerde af te dingen. Ze zit al jaren in de gevangenis, ondanks het feit dat ze verkozen was tot het Turkse parlement. En het feit dat in 2001 het Europese Hof voor de Rechten van de Mens haar veroordeling onwettig had verklaard.
Van de AMNESTY INTERNATIONAL WEBSITE: Leyla Zana Prisoner of Conscience Turkey Leyla Zana has been honored with many international peace prizes, but she has been unable to accept them in person. She remains in a Turkish prison for her courageous defense of human rights and commitment to forging a peaceful, democratic resolution to conflicts between the Turkish government and its minority Kurdish population. When the European Parliament awarded her its Sakharov Prize in 1995 for defending human rights, she had been jailed for one year of a 15-year sentence. Leyla Zana is the first Kurdish woman elected to Turkey's Parliament who openly and proudly identified herself as a Kurd. At her inauguration in 1991, she took the oath of loyalty in Turkish, as required by law, then added in Kurdish, "I shall struggle so that the Kurdish and Turkish peoples may live together in a democratic framework." Before August 2002, the Turkish government placed severe restrictions on the use of Kurdish, prohibiting the language in education and broadcast media. Leyla Zana not only spoke before Parliament in Kurdish, but also wore a headband with the traditional Kurdish colors of yellow, green, and red. Parliament erupted with shouts of "Separatist," "Terrorist," and "Arrest her." Leyla Zana's parliamentary immunity prevented authorities from arresting her for three years. In 1994, Leyla Zana and three other Kurdish legislators - Hatip Dicle, Orhan Dogan and Selim Sadak - joined the newly formed Democracy Party. Turkish authorities had long maintained a practice of closing down political parties that address Kurdish rights issues. Authorities banned the Democratic Party, lifted the parliamentary immunity of Leyla Zana and her colleagues, and arrested them. Based on her actions at the inauguration and subsequent speeches and writings in defense of Kurdish rights, a Turkish court began trying Leyla Zana in September 1994 for treason. The charges later were reduced to membership in the illegal armed Kurdistan Workers' Party. Prosecutors in her flagrantly unfair trial presented witnesses who themselves faced prosecution or who later retracted their statements, which they said were extracted under torture. The court convicted Leyla Zana and her co-defendants in December 1994 and handed down sentences of 15 years' imprisonment. The European Court of Human Rights ruled Leyla Zana's trial unfair in July 2001. In its bid for membership in the European Union, the Turkish government adopted numerous reforms in August 2002, among them the right of Turkish citizens to judicial review of any verdict in a trial judged unfair by the European Court of Human Rights. The new law specifies that it is not retroactive, however, thereby preventing Leyla Zana from invoking it. Amnesty International considers Leyla Zana to be a prisoner of conscience and has appealed for her immediate and unconditional release. Background Recent legislation in Turkey that lifts some restrictions on free expression and on the use of Kurdish in broadcasting and education, among numerous other reforms, follows decades of conflict between Kurds and Turkish authorities. Kurds constitute about one-fifth of Turkey's population, and Turkish authorities have treated Kurdish ethno-lingual diversity as a threat to national unity. Although armed conflict between government forces and the opposition Kurdistan Workers' Party had virtually ended by 2000, repression of pro-Kurdish political parties and organizations has continued. Local party offices regularly have been raided, and their officials and supporters have been detained, tortured, and killed.
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"January 15, 1916 - To the Government of Aleppo - We are informed that certain orphanages which have opened also admitted the children of the Armenians. [...]the Government will view the feeding of such children or any effort to prolong their lives as an act completely opposite to its purpose, since it regards the survival of these children as detrimental. - Minister of the Interior, TALAAT." |
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![]() Ik heb mijn punt al duidelijk gemaakt. Mensenrechten schendingen komen voor in Turkije maar ze komen ook voor in Europa. De links die ik gepost heb tonen aan dat het EU land Griekenland de rechten van de Turkse minderheid schendt. Europa meet met dubbele maten. Bovendien is Turkije hard aan het hervormen. Helaas willen sommigen Turkije daar geen crediet voor geven.
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