Russische vlag op het parlement van de Krim

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Je wil zeggen zoals de Amerikanen en Israeli ongestraft in talloze landen deden en doen?

De inval in Oekraine was inderdaad een schending van het internationazl recht, net zoals, bvb.., de NAVO-agressie tegen Servie.

Maar wat is dan uw motivatie om stelling te nemen ?
Zij doen het ook ideaal.

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Dubbel

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Pro-Russian sympathies make life harder for soldiers, cops in Kupiansk district

KUPIANSK, Kharkiv Oblast – How do you defend a town where some civilians are out to get you?

Besides the Russian military, there’s another thing that Ukrainian troops and police are being forced to contend with. According to interviews with dozens of soldiers, police officers, and civilians around Kupiansk, many of the local residents that remain are pro-Russian. Some of them are former or active collaborators of enemy troops.
"Subjectively speaking, there are many separatists here," said Yevhen Didkovskyi, a community relations officer with the 138th Battalion deployed in the area. "People who hate us on principle."

This can be deadly for the troops and the civilians who help them. Multiple soldiers told the Kyiv Independent that their living quarters were targeted in ways that suggest that someone fed coordinates to the enemy. A few soldiers quipped that people in the local marketplace are the first to know to clear out of the way when there’s something incoming

Even when there is no active collaboration, enough locals are leery of troops for it to be an issue. Soldiers complained about being obstructed in their duties, refused aid, or charged jacked-up prices.

When asked how this all affects morale, most soldiers had something ironic to say.

“The morale fell long ago, we just got used to it,” said one of a group of soldiers in Kivsharivka, a town about 15 kilometers southwest from Kupiansk.

Kupiansk, the administrative center of the Kupiansk district, had a population of about 28,000 before the 2022 invasion, now down to just 11,000. It’s hard to say what percentage is pro-Russian.

Kupiansk's former mayor, Hennadiy Matsehora, infamously welcomed the Russians into his town, joining their occupation authority and aiding them with housing, transportation, and other needs, until Kupiansk was liberated in September 2022.

Didkovskyi reckons that about 50% of the current local population remains pro-Russian. The same rough numbers were cited by a group of civilians talking about their town of Kivsharivka, while cleaning up the aftermath of Russian shelling of a residential building.
Nevertheless, a Ukrainian police officer who escaped from occupied Kupiansk after being arrested and tortured by the Russians, said that close to 85% of the original pre-occupation police force turned and started working for the occupiers. These people fled to Russia when Kupiansk was liberated, according to multiple police officers.

Didkovskyi said he also runs into sullen obstructionism from community leaders. “I come to a village, go into the head’s office and go: ‘Look, I got 30 cold, wet, angry men with guns, can you just find me three empty houses for them to stay?’ He stands there for two hours like: I don’t know. What? I don’t know.”

As a result of the danger posed by collaborators, troops are spending less time in the towns and villages and more time in the countryside, in dugouts, according to a soldier with the callsign Uklon and his fellows.

Uklon and his comrades also said they were instructed to minimize conversations with locals and avoid showing locals the movement of combat vehicles.

“People older than 40, who were born in the USSR and educated under these banners live in the past, thinking the USSR will come again and give them everything for free,” Demenko said, although collaboration suspects do come in all ages.

Didkovskyi said something similar: “Somehow it’s like they’re waiting, like someone has to give them something. To decide something for them. The Daddy Tsar.”

On one street in Kivsharivka, a group of volunteers cleaning up the debris from a Russian munition agreed with this view. The blast gouged a big hole in the side of a residential building at ground level. These volunteers said that Kivsharivka is full of grannies and other closet sympathizers with Soviet nostalgia or gorged on Russian media.

However, many people were very reluctant to give their names. A group of soldiers just down the road explained that while most pro-Russian locals are staying very quiet, Ukrainian patriots here may want to keep their head down, to avoid being targeted, as well.

Police in Kupiansk said that arrests on collaboration are being made regularly. A local Telegram channel account called Marazm posts news about criminal charges and convictions related to pro-Russian activities every few days.

Police investigator Subotin said that as of last week, there were warrants out for 30 people. Known collaborators’ apartments had already been searched multiple times.

However, many collaborators who worked with the occupiers in Kupiansk district ran away shortly before liberation, police said. Right now, Ukraine is charging them in absentia. About 90% of the escapees are in Russia but some have also escaped to Europe, police said.

"Now the question of an international wanted list, announced through Interpol, is being decided," Subotin said. "So that if they're hiding in Europe, we can extradite them home.

https://kyivindependent.com/pro-russ...ansk-district/

Pas op, zelfs het in het bezit hebben van een Sovjet-vlag is verboden in "vrij en democratisch "Oekraine". Leraars en zelfs kleuterleidsters die hun job bleven doen "onder Russische bezetting" werden tot jarenlange gevangenisstraffen veroordeeld.Het in vraag syellen van de politiek van de regering is ook een misdrijf, zelfs een Amerikaans-Chileende journalist werd op die basis opgesloten en uiteindelijk vermoord. Dit kwam ter sprake in het Westen omdat het een Amerikaan betreft, maar ontzettend veel politieke gevangenen in Oekraine overlijden in verdachte omstandigheden. Het Westen bedekt dit allemaal met de mantel der liefde.

Propagandistje is weer eens iets vergeten mee te plakken dat TOCH in de tekst van zijn bron staat:

Kupiansk is not a separatist city as such. According to local police, pro-Russian people were in the minority, especially before most residents fled west. But closeness to Russia’s border, prolonged Soviet entanglement and nonstop access to Kremlin propaganda conspired to breed resentment and pro-Russian sympathies at higher rates than normal.

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Maar wat is dan uw motivatie om stelling te nemen ?
Zij doen het ook ideaal.

Soldij.

[kelt]

Rapporten,en zelfs al eens een filmke lijken aan te geven dat in een van de havenwerken van Sevastopol
de onder construktie zijnde Zware Drijvende kraan "PK-700 Grigory Prosyankin" gekapseisd is...

https://ukrainetoday.org/russias-new...-down-crashes/

Het enorme ding was dus nog niet klaar en het laat zich aanzien dat er nog wat extra werk zal aan zijn.
Nadat al dat werk gedaan is valt nog te bezien hoe de Zwarte Zee Vloot dergelijke belangrijke asset
veilig weg gaat krijgen van de Krim.

Ik kan me geen betere prooi voor de drone snelboten voorstellen,zeker gezien de aanzienlijke aantallen
geinvesteerde broebels en het economische en militaire NUT van dergelijk vaartuig...

We zien,met dergelijke construkties weer eens het geweldige belang van de Sevastopol havencomplexen en de
l erbij horende industriele infrastruktuur.


Of het ganse evenement plaatsgegrepen heeft omdat een Wladimir een stopseltje vergeten in te draaien is,of integendeel
omdat Wolodomir of Artem er een stopseltje UIT gedraaid heeft zullen we moeten speculeren vrees ik.