DE GROTE EURO ZONE CRISIS : The Endgame

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De Duitse Minister van Financien,de heer Westerwelle verklaarde vlakaf dat voor Duitsland "solidariteit en betrouwbaarheid" twee kanten zijn van dezelfde medaille...
Enkele Griekse politici hebben,denk ik,nog steeds de illusies...en hun kiespubliek met hen.

Vooral het verhaaltje dat de Griekse economische groei gehinderd wordt door de "Europees opgelegde besparingen",terwijl we onderhand weten dat "de Griekse groei" eigenlijk nooit bestaan heeft,toch niet als iets wat men daar zelf deed, getuigt van een onvoorstelbare schijnheiligheid....


overigens....iemand al eens een Grieks industrieel product opgemerkt behoudens wat lichtblauwe verpakkingetjes met wat goedkoop voedsel??

DAT is het probleem,ze hebben niks in de aanbieding waarmee wij ,andere EU-burgers,hen uit de problemen zouden kunnen kopen..

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De Duitse Minister van Financien,de heer Westerwelle verklaarde vlakaf dat voor Duitsland "solidariteit en betrouwbaarheid" twee kanten zijn van dezelfde medaille...
Enkele Griekse politici hebben,denk ik,nog steeds de illusies...en hun kiespubliek met hen.

Vooral het verhaaltje dat de Griekse economische groei gehinderd wordt door de "Europees opgelegde besparingen",terwijl we onderhand weten dat "de Griekse groei" eigenlijk nooit bestaan heeft,toch niet als iets wat men daar zelf deed, getuigt van een onvoorstelbare schijnheiligheid....

Dikke vette 2.

[parcifal]

Diegenen die beweren dat hun land door alleen te gaan, succes kan hebben, creëren niet alleen een illusie.
Ze liegen.

Herman Van Rompuy, Voorzitter van de Europese raad.
9 mei 2012, Dag van Europa.

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Een aanrader...

EUROPA RAD : Robbe Vandegehuchte maakte voor zijn eindwerk journalistiek (Artevelde, Gent) deze reportage over de eurocrisis.

Blijkbaar heeft nog niemand deze uitstekende reportage gezien... bon

[Boduo]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door parcifal

Herman Van Rompuy, Voorzitter van de Europese raad.
9 mei 2012, Dag van Europa.

Dat is een schot in de roos !

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Herman Van Rompuy, Voorzitter van de Europese raad.
9 mei 2012, Dag van Europa.

Dat is oorspronkelijk niet de dag van de Eurozone slimmeke.

9 Mei is Victory in Europa dag en tevens (en waarschijnlijk veel belangrijker) lekker rode Soviet Victory Day.


Voila...

[parcifal]

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Dat is oorspronkelijk niet de dag van de Eurozone slimmeke.

9 Mei is Victory in Europa dag en tevens (en waarschijnlijk veel belangrijker) lekker rode Soviet Victory Day.

Ik wist niet dat dit plots een russisch forum was.
Een beetje van je melk, ZonB ?

9 mei is in de EU sinds 1985 de Dag van Europa vanwege de verklaring van Robert Schuman op die dag in 1950.

http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dag_van_Europa

End of story.


De originele Victory day ligt 67 jaar achter ons.
En wij vierden dat (ooit) op 8 mei, niet op 9 mei.

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Ik wist niet dat dit plots een russisch forum was.
Een beetje van je melk, ZonB ?

9 mei is in de EU sinds 1985 de Dag van Europa vanwege de verklaring van Robert Schumann op die dag in 1950.

http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dag_van_Europa

End of story.


De originele Victory day ligt 67 jaar achter ons.
En wij vierden dat (ooit) op 8 mei, niet op 9 mei.

Inderdaad, een beetje van mijn melk. Houd namelijk niet van globalisten.

Het Europa waar Uw geliefde Shumann en Monnet voor staan kan me gestolen worden en is goed op dreef zichzelf te vernietigen.

Een beetje geschiedenis op deze belangrijke dag...

BTW, precies of the Rusland er niets mee te maken had... zzzz...

EU and Globalism: Facts denied to the public

<sub>When Nazis and Communists buried the Hatchet, they planted a poisonous seed, which has Grown into the CFR and later into Brussels’s Europe.

When, in March 1988, the Soviet empire was beginning to disintegrate, details of secret, East-West negotiations were leaked to Pravda, and then to Moscow News, to the effect that “ten or twenty years ago,” a world government “could only have led to domination by American capitalism being enshrined in international law”. However, the article continued, “the situation has changed. What has to be done is to establish a new international political order [for which] the socialist world is well prepared [because] the idea of internationalism is in the very nature of our [Communist] system of government”. What Moscow realised in 1988 was that globalism represented a final opportunity to rescue communist structures, if not communism itself, from collapse. At the same time, the World Economic Forum, host to annual international summit meetings in Davos, launched, under the names of members of the Bilderberg Group and of the Trilateral Commission, a series of economic plans, to which Moscow was only too willing to subscribe. The aim of these plans was not to liberate Eastern European sovereignty and democracy, but to engineer, together with the USSR, the domination of Europe by a supranational regime. This aim was identical to that enshrined in the terms of the Soviet-German Treaty of 1939 – a correspondence, which is conveniently ignored by commentators today.

However, if we understand this correspondence, we can easily understand the words of Marcel Déat, as published, in 1943, under German supervision, in his daily newspaper, L’Œuvre [i.e. “The Task”] Déat said:

“It is a question of creating one great European Economic State…The new Europe will either be socialist or it will not exist at all.”!

Here is the beginning of understanding the hidden history of modern Europe : - not a Europe which could combine free countries while preserving their sovereignty (i.e. without imposing a supranational state) but that of Jean Monnet, whom the CIA financed in order to create a system of European governance, just like that which Walter Funk, the Nazi Minister of Finance, actually designed.

For decades, the so-called “Fathers of Europe”, Jean Monnet, Robert Schuman, Jacques Delors, and others, spread their hatred of sovereignty and democracy through their powerful adherents in the media, and kept quiet about themselves and their ‘godfathers’ in the Fabian Society, the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) the Royal Institute of International Affairs (RIIA) the Bilderberg Group, the Trilateral Commission and so on; namely, Joseph Retinger, Otto Abetz, Richard Coudenhove-Kalergi, Ernst Aschenbach, Paul-Henry Spaak, Henry Kissinger, Zbigniew Brzezinski, David Rockefeller et cetera, all of whom have worked, in effect, to blend Nazi pan-Europeanism with Communist Internationalism to create the global, oligarchic, corporate system, we see emerging today.

As shown in the Congressional Record - on 15 December 1987, Jesse Helms dropped a bombshell in the US Senate. He denounced “the State Department, the Trade Department, certain banking and financial groups, multinationals and tax-exempt foundations [saying that they were effectively controlled by] organisations such as the CFR, the RIIA, the Trilateral Commission, the Dartmouth and Bilderberg Meetings, the Aspen Institute and the Atlantic Insititute”, which are, he said, “using them to spread and coordinate plans for a so-called New World Order, serving the business and financial channels of the political world…”

Indeed, Senator Helms, whose high degree in Freemasonry, suddenly became a matter of dispute with the Grand Order, ventured to go further still. On the morals of what he called “this secret system of government”, he said,

“The world views of these insiders are characterised by atheism and materialism. All that matters to them is to maximise their profits, by wielding the twin-weapons of debt and monopoly. That is absolutely not true capitalism, and it is not surprising if the insiders of these clubs - while vying with each other – are also plotting together to join forces with Kremlin leaders, whose vision of the world is also that of atheistic, materialistic profiteers.”

Helms also described what he called “the destructive role of Fabian socialism”, specifically deploring the fact (and I quote) “that Europe has lost its identity and sense of mission as a bastion of Western civilisation, whereas Marxism, in all its forms, is replacing the culture and the traditional values of the nations of the Old World”.

How is it possible that so few people know about these powers and their role in shaping Europe and the World since the War? There are two reasons: the first is that foreign correspondents in the United States, are snowed under by government press-releases and trivia, and rarely find time to examine the Congressional Record, let alone to listen to speeches in the Senate or House of Representatives.

The second, and more cogent, reason is apparent from a speech, given in Essen, West Germany, on 8th June 1991, by David Rockefeller, the President of the Bilderberg Group, and of the Trilateral Commission, and one of those who control the media through their financial interests. He said:

“We are grateful to the Washington Post, the New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been quite impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subjected to the lights of publicity during those years. But, now that the world is more sophisticated, it is prepared to march towards a world government and accept the supranational sovereignty of an intellectual and financial elite, which is surely preferable to the national autodetermination practiced in past centuries…”

Only a few publications, of very limited circulation, or else this book I’ve just published entitled Facts & Chronicles denied to the public, written by Pierre de Villemarest, a former member of the Special Services for French National Defence, reported this astounding statement, while, among the “great publications” referred to by Rockefeller were the newspapers of record of all the European Union member states, whose eminent columnists – some of them Members of Parliament - preferred not to protest about the censorship imposed by this man and his accomplices, but to continue to allow themselves to be led, together with an ignorant public, on a forced “march towards a one-world government”.

For more than fifty years, the self-appointed “Wise Men” of these plutocratic “Clubs” steadfastly ignored the atrocities perpetrated by the precursor of the Europe of Brussels - the USSR. Under cover of a silence imposed by them, the nomenklatura, who were so admired by Monnet and Delors, were able to impose their “new socialist order” upon 100 million slaves - and murdered as many more.

During an official visit to Bucharest, the then President of France, Valéry Giscard d’Estaing (a Bilderberg-attendee since 1968) took the opportunity of assuring the Communist boss, Ceaucescu, as follows: “We have identical ideas about the problems facing the world, and they are in line with a New Economic World Order”. (Le Figaro, 28 July 1975). Giscard made almost the same comment to Brezhnev after placing flowers at Lenin’s tomb, as the first Western Head of State to pay tribute to the man who, in founding the Cheka, created the first, modern police-state.

It was at about this time that Alexander Solzhenitsyn miraculously succeeded in breaking through the blanket of silence in the West and in denouncing the Empire of the Gulag. After that, other survivors of the death camps, such as the Russian Vladimir Bukovski, drove the point home by pointing out that the East-West détente, so desired by the globalists, was built upon a hundred million corpses. When challenged about his motives for saying this, Vladimir Bukovski replied, with wonderful, Russian wit and succinctness:

“I am neither from the revolutionary camp, nor from the reactionary camp - I am from the concentration camp.”

The feminist Simone de Beauvoir, self-proclaimed defender of the weak and the oppressed, once said to Bukovski:

"You do not have the right, Sir, to destroy the illusions of the young people who expect so much from socialism!".

We may wonder how she dared to bid him keep silence about the horrors he had witnessed; but such is the fervour of the utopian elite that truth and justice – let alone sovereignty and democracy – mean nothing to them at all. I would love to know what Bukovski said in reply.

We want a Europe of freedom, not a Europe of de Beauvoir’s “illusions”, because, unless we get it, Europe, like yesterday’s USSR, will become a spiritual, intellectual and moral cemetery, where soulless racketeers hold sway. We need no lessons in civic duty or “European solidarity” from such people. Where were they – where were such “Wise Men” as Messieurs Monnet and Schuman - from 1914-1918, or 1939-1945? Were they fighting at our side? No they were not! Why should we now believe their claim that they are about to defend Europe, when their rackets are already global in extent?

When we defended our country, some of us for the second time, we also felt solidarity with those in Europe, who were fighting the same fight with us, and we did not need Maastricht, Euratom, or orchestrated, absorptionist propaganda to make us feel that solidarity.

You cannot save a civilisation with promises of a pan-continental order for stateless robots, in exchange for the suppression of traditions, the breaking up of one’s patrimony and the repudiation of one’s nation. Europeists argue like true Communists when they claim that they have the “only solution to the problem of restoring our greatness and dignity”. A fine phrase that - worthy of the worst of demagogues – worthy, in fact, of any dictator – and typical of men whose wealth shelters them from all the mundane difficulties ordinary people have - the difficulties, that is, of those who love their native land and their neighbours, and who discovered solidarity, national and international, before Europeists, ever became the blot-on-the-landscape, which they now are. A Europe of the peoples and the nations is possible, but the starting point must be our common culture and traditions, for only then can our economies develop within a framework of democratic, social justice. Such a framework cannot be imposed by a bureaucracy – and especially not by the present one, whose irresponsibility needs no further proof !!!!!

There is no reason why Europe must, as Marcel Déat put it, “either be socialist or not exist at all”, unless “Europe” means the totalitarian construct Déat was thinking of at the time. Similarly, there are many Americans, who reject the State-within-a-State, which the CFR has become over the decades. They, like us, wish to see European nations as equal partners, not fellow serfs in an empire of global corporations and supranational regulators, just as Howard Perlmutter, American economist and CFR member, had announced in February 1971 at the first Davos conference. In Switzerland Pierre de Villemarest was able to obtain complete texts of statements not intended for public release. In his summing-up, Howard Perlmutter said,

“By 1991, we must have no more than about 300 multinationals controlling all research, exploitation and distribution world wide of the key natural resources of our time.”

At the same time he advocated that an increasing number of banks and companies should engage in mergers for the sake of simplifying and regulating the current economic drive. Europe would thus become a kind of economic and financial multinational with a single voice in discussions with the American multinational. Discussion, perhaps, but not as a free agent, as show before.

The European nations have sprung from several centuries of warring history, but it was not the nationalism of any country that started the wars of the 20th Century. The wars of modern times were precipitated rather by supranational forces aiming for world government. They were wars of ideology-wielding elites against the people, and they continue to this day. It is important to remember that the Soviets were never the true embodiment of Russia, nor was Nazism, despite all the propaganda, ever Germany; and the CFR is not America, any more than certain influential groups in Paris, Berlin, London or Brussels are France, Germany, England or Europe. We should be constantly aware of this, and make every effort to open the eyes of our compatriots and neighbours to it !!!!

All the facts and all the truth condemn the Europe of Brussels and Maastricht; but rejecting it is not just a matter of saying “No” to the European spider’s web we can see. We must expose the hidden history of Monnet’s and Schumann’s Europe, which shows how it is linked to a global conspiracy. If we can do this, the Quislings will slink off in disgrace from every European capital, and each European nation-state will regain its own destiny. The time has come to name the secretive clubs which govern us and their adherents – as we do in Facts & Chronicles denied to the public, especially the members of parliaments and governments who do the bidding of the CFR, Bilderberg, Trilateral Commission and so on. In this way, the day will come, when our present downward spiral into global dictatorship will be halted and reversed.


The European nations have sprung from several centuries of warring history, but it was not the nationalism of any country that started the wars of the 20th Century. The wars of modern times were precipitated rather by supranational forces aiming for world government. They were wars of ideology-wielding elites against the people, and they continue to this day. It is important to remember that the Soviets were never the true embodiment of Russia, nor was Nazism, despite all the propaganda, ever Germany; and the CFR is not America, any more than certain influential groups in Paris, Berlin, London or Brussels are France, Germany, England or Europe. We should be constantly aware of this, and make every effort to open the eyes of our compatriots and neighbours to it.</sub>


Toch, wens ik U een gelukkige feestdag toe, voor U en de Uwen @Parci

Mvg,

ZB

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Dat is een schot in het rood !

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De EU houdt het been stijf...

ZERO HEDGE - Eurozone Refuses To Blink: Will Hold Back €1 Billion From Greek Payment To Monday

EUROZONE HOLDS BACK €1 BILLION FOR GREECE TO MONDAY ACCORDING TO A EUROPEAN SOURCE -Dow Jones
EFSF SAYS 4.2 BLN EURO TO BE DISBURSED MAY 10 - BBG
EFSF SAYS REMAINING FUNDS 1 BLN EURO NOT NEEDED BEFORE JUNE - BBG
EFSF SAYS REMAINING 1 BLN EURO DISBURSED DEPENDING GREECE NEEDS - BBG

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Mooie vooruitzichten voor de Eurozone op 9 Mei 2012...


Video - NIGEL FARAGE - We face the prospect of mass civil unrest, even revolution
• European Parliament, Brussels, 9 May 2012

• Speaker: Nigel Farage MEP, Leader of the UK Independence Party (UKIP), Co-President of the 'Europe of Freedom and Democracy' (EFD) Group in the European Parliament

[UnionJack]

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Mooie vooruitzichten voor de Eurozone op 9 Mei 2012...


Video - NIGEL FARAGE - We face the prospect of mass civil unrest, even revolution
• European Parliament, Brussels, 9 May 2012

• Speaker: Nigel Farage MEP, Leader of the UK Independence Party (UKIP), Co-President of the 'Europe of Freedom and Democracy' (EFD) Group in the European Parliament

Parcival heeft u wel netjes gecorrigeerd lijkt me... Ik snap u niet om eerlijk te zijn; je bent anti-globalist (en anti EU), ... maar je bent evenzeer anti Angelsaksen. Bent u dan enkel pro Argentinië?
Een ergere vorm van 'bedriegt den boer' is er nochtans niet te bedenken dan in dat land...

[parcifal]

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Inderdaad, een beetje van mijn melk. Houd namelijk niet van globalisten.

Het Europa waar Uw geliefde Shumann en Monnet voor staan kan me gestolen worden en is goed op dreef zichzelf te vernietigen.

Een beetje geschiedenis op deze belangrijke dag...

....

Toch, wens ik U een gelukkige feestdag toe, voor U en de Uwen @Parci

Mvg,

ZB

Mpfff, wall of text.
t'is overigens ECHT wel Schuman, ZonB.

Mij een beetje foutief komen corrigeren of wat?

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Mpfff, wall of text.
t'is overigens ECHT wel Schuman, ZonB.

Mij een beetje foutief komen corrigeren of wat?

Tja, die wall of text is wel erg duidelijk voor de mens die het begrijpen wil.

Sorry, U hebt gelijk in dit geval. Het is Schuman.

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Parcival heeft u wel netjes gecorrigeerd lijkt me... Ik snap u niet om eerlijk te zijn; je bent anti-globalist (en anti EU), ... maar je bent evenzeer anti Angelsaksen. Bent u dan enkel pro Argentinië?
Een ergere vorm van 'bedriegt den boer' is er nochtans niet te bedenken dan in dat land...

Ik ben pro alle souvereine staten, zowel de Amerikaanse als den Engelse etc.. Ik steun daarom ook bvb. Ron Paul en de UKIP.

Laat iedereen maar voor zijn eigen landje en territorium zorgen, dan komen we er wel.

Verder, kan het U niet ontgaan zijn dat de krachten die achter de Eurozone/EU zitten net dezelfde zijn als die het VK en de VSA controleren.

GS bvb. Rings a bell ?

Zonder dat in te zien kan U onmogelijk pro-Angelsaksisch zijn. (IMHO)

BTW, vertel me eens waar @Parcifal me netjes gecorrigeerd heeft.

Buiten de schrijfwijze van een bepaalde naam is er mij niets bijzonders opgevallen.

GO... if you please.

Tip: lees misschien toch eens die wall of text hierboven, again, if you please...

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Goed, buiten een mooie wapperende gif van de EU-vlag en wat geleuter over een 'wall of text' valt er verder niet veel waar te nemen.

Dus we hernemen...

ZERO HEDGE - "Europe Has Started The Endgame" And Biderman Says "The US Is Next"

_{Charles Biderman (CEO of TrimTabs) is not shocked that "Europeans who have been getting something for nothing, want to continue getting something for nothing" as they chant that Austerity is evil. Charles provides context for the revolt that the Europeans find themselves fulfilling as he looks back at how they/we got here. Briefly covering the key aspects of the last 25 years, of why and how various parabolic growths (be it stocks, real estate, the internet, or debt) have led us to believe we "deserve something for nothing"; he vehemently argues that the European mess will not resolve itself until the fundamental belief that we all deserve to be taken care of from cradle-to-grave dissolves. In one of his best rants, the BLS-belittler explains how Europe has started the endgame and why the end of this year could well see the US move front-and-center in the crisis. Harsh but fair, in a little under 4 minutes, summarizes all that is wrong with societal values and suggests catalysts for next steps - dismal next steps.}



Warning, bring your security blanket before watching this - the truth may hurt...

Video - Biderman's Daily Edge 5/9/2012: Austerity is Bad

Ik ben het niet volledig akkoord met hem ivm de austeriteit, maar toch scoort hij heel wat punten...

Vele sociale vangnetten werden opgezet (betaald door de werkman) dit in ruil voor minder persoonlijke vrijheden, superbelastingen en pamperpolitiek, laten we dat niet vergeten.

Zowat iedereen werd gedwongen om mee te doen, heden zou Mr. Obama ook graag zijn Obamacare doordrukken... Velen hebben er niet om gevraagd en verafschuwen het.

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De leider van het Tsipras-Anti-Bailout-Team schrijft een brief naar het Europees leiderschap.


ZERO HEDGE - Full Letter From Greek "Anti-Bailout" Coalition Leader Tsipras To "The European Leadership"

<sub>Below is the letter that the man who will most likely be Greece's next premier sent out earlier today to "the European leadership" including Jean-Claude "I only lie when it is reeeeeealy important" Juncker, and Gollum Van Vompuy. According to local, pro-bailout Greek media, the tone is far more conciliatory than his remarks from the past few days. Well, it must be google-translated Greek to us, because we sure don't see much if any conciliation in the letter.

Full goog-translated copy below (original here):

Letter from the President of the Group SYRIZA MCM , A word Tsipras

the European Commission President Jose Manuel Barroso
the President of the European Council Van Rompuy
the President of the European Parliament Martin Schulz

Notification:

President of European Central Bank Mario Drago
President of the Eurogroup Jean-Claude Juncker

Athens, Thursday 10 May 2012

Dear Mr. President,

I am sending you this letter after receipt of the exploratory mandate from the Greek President to ascertain the possibility of forming a Government enjoying the confidence of Parliament, under our Constitution. This letter builds upon the previous letter I sent on 21 February.

The vote of the Greek people Sunday May 6th nullifies/delegitimizes/makes illegal the political Memorandum of Understanding / Memorandum of Economic and Financial Policy signed by the previous Papademos government and the leaders of two political parties that had guaranteed the parliamentary majority of his government. Both parties recorded a loss of roughly 3.5 million votes, totaling 33.5% share of total votes.

Please note that before this, the MoU / MEFP had already been delegitimized in terms of its potential for economic success. But it's not just that the Memorandum of Understanding / MEFP failed to achieve its own objectives. It has also failed to address the structural imbalances and inequalities of the Greek economy. SYRIZA noted over the years the inherent weaknesses of the economy. All governments who work closely with the European Union ignored our recommendations for specific reforms.

Please also note that because of the policies of the Memorandum of Understanding / MEFP, Greece in 2012 is the only European country to endure its fifth successive year of deep recession during peacetime. Moreover the Bond Exchange Program (PSI) has failed to ensure the long-term viability of Greek debt which continues rising as a share of GDP. Austerity can in no way be the cure to recession. Therefore the immediate, socially just, reversal of the continuous decline of our economy is imperative.

We must urgently ensure economic and social stability in our country. For this purpose, we must take every political initiative to reverse the austerity and recession. Because apart from the lack of democratic legitimacy, continuing a program of internal devaluation is leading economy to catastrophy without creating conditions for recovery. The internal devaluation tends to lead to a humanitarian crisis.

Thus we need to rethink the entire context of the existing strategy, since it not only threatens Greece's social cohesion and stability, but is also a source of instability for the European Union and the EuroZone itself.

The common future of the European peoples is under the threat of such catastrophic choices. It is our deeply held belief that the economic crisis is of a European nature, and thus the solution must be found at the European level.

Sincerely,

Alexis Tsipras

President K.O SYRIZA

Vice President of the European Left Party</sub>

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Ik ben pro alle souvereine staten, zowel de Amerikaanse als den Engelse etc.. Ik steun daarom ook bvb. Ron Paul en de UKIP.

Laat iedereen maar voor zijn eigen landje en territorium zorgen, dan komen we er wel.

Verder, kan het U niet ontgaan zijn dat de krachten die achter de Eurozone/EU zitten net dezelfde zijn als die het VK en de VSA controleren.

Zijn de twee passages in 't vet niet contradictorisch ? Enerzijds stel je dat je pro souvereine staten bent, en anderzijds stel je vast dat souvereine staten nu precies de hefboom zijn waarmee die krachten opereren.

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Hedge Funds gokken tegen Nederland en Duitsland...

Daily Finance - : Why You Should Worry
<sub>But Financial Times is reporting that a group of hedge fund managers are now shorting some of the core countries in the eurozone, including Germany and the Netherlands, even though bond yields in those countries -- the gauge for measuring a country's fiscal and financial health -- are still at record or near-record lows.

In a nutshell, some of the world's best-paid, most-seasoned, and savviest investors are sufficiently convinced of the underlying sickness of even the most apparently stable eurozone countries that they're placing serious bets on their potential collapse. John Paulson, the billionaire who made his name (and his money) by shorting the U.S. mortgage securities market in the run up to the 2008 financial meltdown, is one of the hedge fund managers reported to be shorting Germany.</sub>

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Een superleider voor Europa ?

EXPRESS uk - EU PLOT TO SCRAP BRITAIN


<sub>SENIOR Eurocrats are secretly plotting to create a super-powerful EU president to realise their dream of abolishing *Britain, we can reveal.

A covert group of EU foreign ministers has drawn up plans for merging the jobs currently done by Herman Van Rompuy, president of the European Council, and Jose Manuel Barroso, president of the European Commission.

The new bureaucrat, who would not be directly elected by voters, is set to get sweeping control over the entire EU and force member countries into ever-greater political and economic union.

Tellingly, the UK has been excluded from the confidential discussions within the shady “Berlin Group” of Europhile politicians, spearheaded by German foreign minister Guido Westerwelle.

Opponents fear the plan could create a modern-day equivalent of the European emperor envisaged by Napoleon Bonaparte or a return to the Holy Roman Empire of Charlemagne that dominated Europe in the Dark Ages.

They are concerned that David Cameron’s coalition Government is doing nothing to prevent the sinister plot. The secret talks were uncovered by Independent Labour peer Lord Stoddart of Swindon.

“This is a plot by people who want to abolish nation states and create a United States of Europe,” he said.

“The whole thing is barmy. These people are determined to achieve their final objective.
...

“A merger of the two presidencies would create a potential conflict of interest, undermine the quality of the EU’s decision-making processes and upset the institutional balance within the EU.” Lord Stoddart said: “These sorts of informal discussions within the EU have a habit of rapidly being transferred into formal proposals.

“Since the Government is not party to these discussions, its reservations are academic.

“Such a merger would represent a massive shift of power into the hands of a single, unelected bureaucrat. The Government should be taking this far more seriously and voicing its objections very strongly.”

He added: “The holder of this new office would be both Europe’s political and administrative leader, giving them far more powers than those given to the US president.

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