Leven wij nu nog in een democratie ?

[Dorian]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Westland New Post

Ik heb persoonlijk schijt aan intellectuelen, zeker de linksen. Ik ben voor het gewone volk, de modale vlaming die schijt heeft aan linkse wereldverbeteraars en politiek-correcte beterweters. En zowel de RTBF als RTL-TVI zijn idd zenders voor intellectuele wereldverbeteraars!

Jij bent voor een soort VTM-cultuur voor iedereen als ik het goed begrijp ?

[Werkslaaf]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Westland New Post

Ik heb persoonlijk schijt aan intellectuelen, zeker de linksen. Ik ben voor het gewone volk, de modale vlaming die schijt heeft aan linkse wereldverbeteraars en politiek-correcte beterweters. En zowel de RTBF als RTL-TVI zijn idd zenders voor intellectuele wereldverbeteraars!

By the way, nogmaals, waarom vervolgd het CGKR de moslims niet voor racisme en stigmatisatie tov de Joden en de Christenen?

Moet ik de citaten nogmaals posten? )

[Westland New Post]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door neruda

Het Vlaams Blok heeft eindelijk openlijk bewezen dat ze een NIET-DEMOCRATISCHE partij is en kan worden.
Ze respecteren niet eens een rechtspraak dan respecteren ook niet 9 miljoen politiek anders gezinde Vlamingen.
They FUCK with us ? Well FUCK them too !!

Neen, dank u. Ik wil liever géén sex met linkse ratten. Ik heb nog steeds respect voor men lichaam en heb géén zin in AIDS, Chlamydia of Herpes genitalis !!!

[Westland New Post]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Dorian

Jij bent voor een soort VTM-cultuur voor iedereen als ik het goed begrijp ?

VTM is ook links, geef mij maar eerder zoiets als de BBC of Fox News in de V.S.

[Brugge Veilig en Leefbaar]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Cynicus

Bent u van oordeel dat we na het schandalige arrest van het hof van cassatie, nu nog in een democratie leven ?

Ja, alvast tot het Blok aan de macht komt, dan is het gedaan. Kijken naar Schindler's List vanavond... 8)

[Hagal]

Heel belangrijk in deze is de vraag wat democratie is en of wij er ooit in geleefd hebben. Ik denk eerder dat een waarachtige en zuivere democratie zo moeilijk is voor alle burgers en politci dat die bijna onbereikbaar is.

[Supe®Staaf]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Cynicus

Bent u van oordeel dat we na het schandalige arrest van het hof van cassatie, nu nog in een democratie leven ?

Dat arrest verandert niks.
Voor het arrest leefden we ook niet in een democratie.

[voicelesscharlie]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Brugge Veilig en Leefbaar

Ja, alvast tot het Blok aan de macht komt, dan is het gedaan. Kijken naar Schindler's List vanavond... 8)

Toch curieus dat sommigen zich voortdurend moeten bezondigen aan de wet van Godwin.

[Joris_Meys]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Cynicus

Bent u van oordeel dat we na het schandalige arrest van het hof van cassatie, nu nog in een democratie leven ?

Nee, in een regelrechte dictatuur. Ze beslissen elke vier jaar op basis van een populariteitspeiling wie de volgende dictator mag zijn.

pfff...

[Acid]

Het verschil tussen een democratie en een dictatuur is dat een dictatuur toegeeft dat ze dictatoriale trekjes heeft.

[Raf]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Werkslaaf

"Volgens jou"? Grapjas, quote ze dan, ezel!

Je hebt er geen bal van begrepen, de Islam is geen godsdienst maar een op expansie gerichte politieke ideologie met de Koran als wetboek.

Lees eerst eens de bijbel, dan de Koran en kom dan terug intelligente en gefundamenteerde praat verkopen.

Je kan hier al mee beginnen:

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door the Skeptic's Annotated Bible

Cruelty and Violence in the Bible

[size=3]Genesis[/size]

1. "God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good." He purposefully designed a system that ensures the suffering and death of all his creatures, parasite and host, predator and prey. 1:31
2. God likes Abel's dead animals better than Cain's fruits and vegetables. Why? Well, no reason is given, but it probably has something to do with the amount of pain, blood, and gore involved. 4:3-5
3. Because God liked Abel's animal sacrifice more than Cain's vegetables, Cain kills his brother Abel in a fit of religious jealousy. 4:8
4. God is angry. He decides to destroy all humans, beasts, creeping things, fowls, and "all flesh wherein there is breath of life." He plans to drown them all. 6:7, 17
5. God repeats his intention to kill "every living substance ... from off the face of the earth." But why does God kill all the innocent animals? What had they done to deserve his wrath? It seems God never gets his fill of tormenting animals. 7:4
6. God drowns everything that breathes air. From newborn babies to koala bears -- all creatures great and small, the Lord God drowned them all. 7:21-23
7. Noah kills the "clean beasts" and burns their dead bodies for God. According to 7:8 this would have caused the extinction of all "clean" animals since only two of each were taken onto the ark. "And the Lord smelled a sweet savor." 8:20
8. To free Lot from captivity, Abram sends an army of slaves to pursue and smite his captors. 14:14-15
9. God tells Abram to kill some animals for him. The needless slaughter makes God feel better. 15:9-10
10. Hagar conceives, making Sarai jealous. Abram tells Sarai to do to Hagar whatever she wants. "And when Sarai dealt hardly with her, she fled." 16:6
11. Lot refuses to give up his angels to the perverted mob, offering his two "virgin daughters" instead. He tells the bunch of angel rapers to "do unto them [his daughters] as is good in your eyes." This is the same man that is called "just" and "righteous" in 2 Pet.2:7-8. 19:7-8
12. God kills everyone (men, women, children, infants, newborns) in Sodom and Gomorrah by raining "fire and brimstone from the Lord out of heaven." Well, almost everyone -- he spares the "just and righteous" Lot and his family. 19:24
13. Lot's nameless wife looks back, and God turns her into a pillar of salt. 19:26
14. God threatens to kill Abimelech and his people for believing Abe's lie. 20:3-7 Gen.16:5-6) and tells Abraham to 'cast out this bondwoman and her son." God commands Abraham to "hearken unto her voice." So Abraham abandons Hagar and Ishmael, casting them out into the wilderness to die. 21:10-14
15. God orders Abraham to kill Isaac as a burnt offering. Abraham shows his love for God by his willingness to murder his son. But finally, just before Isaac's throat is slit, God provides a goat to kill instead. 22:2-13
16. Abraham shows his willingness to kill his son for God. Only any evil God would ask a father to do that; only a bad father would be willing to do it. 22:10
17. Dinah, the daughter of Jacob, is "defiled" by a man who seems to love her dearly. Her brothers trick all of the men of the town and kill them (after first having them all circumcised), and then take their wives and children captive. 34:1-31
18. The sons of Jacob trick Shechem into getting circumcised. Then they murder him, his sons, and all the males of the city, while taking their wives captive. 34:24-29
19. "The terror of God was upon the cities that were round about them." I don't know what the "terror of God" is, but I'll bet it isn't pleasant. 35:5
20. "And Er, Judah's firstborn, was wicked in the sight of the Lord; and the Lord slew him." What did Er do to elicit God's wrath? The Bible doesn't say. Maybe he picked up some sticks on Saturday. 38:7
21. After God killed Er, Judah tells Onan to "go in unto they brother's wife." But "Onan knew that the seed should not be his; and ... when he went in unto his brother's wife ... he spilled it on the ground.... And the thing which he did displeased the Lord; wherefore he slew him also." This lovely Bible story is seldom read in Sunday School, but it is the basis of many Christian doctrines, including the condemnation of both masturbation and birth control. 38:8-10
22. After Judah pays Tamar for her services, he is told that she "played the harlot" and "is with child by whoredom." When Judah hears this, he says, "Bring her forth, and let her be burnt." 38:24
23. Joseph interprets the baker's dream. He says that the pharaoh will cut off the baker's head, and hang his headless body on a tree for the birds to eat. 40:19

[size=3]Exodus[/size]

1. Moses murders an Egyptian after making sure that no one is looking. 2:11-12
2. God threatens to kill the Pharaoh's firstborn son. 4:23
3. God decides to kill Moses because his son had not yet been circumcised. 4:24-26
4. God will make sure that Pharaoh does not listen to Moses, so that he can kill Egyptians with his armies. 7:4
5. "And the Egyptians shall know that I am the LORD." Who else could be so cruel and unjust? 7:5, 17
6. God tells Moses and Aaron to smite the river and turn it into blood. 7:17-24
7. The fifth plague: all cattle in Egypt die. 9:2-6
8. The sixth plague: boils and blains upon man and beast. 9:9-12
9. "For I will at this time send all my plagues upon thine heart, and upon thy servants, and upon thy people; that thou mayest know that there is none like me in all the earth." Who else but the biblical god could be so cruel? 9:14
10. God kills all Egyptian cattle with hail. 9:19-20
11. The seventh plague is hail. "And the hail smote throughout the land of Egypt all that was in the field, both man and beast." 9:22-25
12. These verses clearly show that the mass murder of innocent children by God was premeditated. 11:4-6 (see 12:29-30)
13. God will kill the Egyptian children to show that he puts "a difference between the Egyptians and Israel." 11:7
14. God explains to Moses that he intends to "smite all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, both man and beast. 12:12
15. After God has sufficiently hardened the Pharaoh's heart, he kills all the firstborn Egyptian children. When he was finished "there was not a house where there was not one dead." Finally, he runs out of little babies to kill, so he slaughters the firstborn cattle, too. 12:29
16. To commemorate the divine massacre of the Egyptian children, Moses instructs the Israelites to "sacrifice to the Lord all that openeth the matrix" -- all the males, that is. God has no use for dead, burnt female bodies. 13:2, 12, 15
17. After hardening Pharaoh's heart a few more times, God drowns Pharaoh's army in the sea 14:4-28
18. Moses and the people sing praises to their murderous god. 15:1-19
19. "The Lord is a man of war." Indeed, judging from his acts in the Old Testament, he is a vicious warlike monster. 15:3
20. God's right hand dashes people in pieces. 15:6
21. Joshua, with God's approval, kills the Amalekites "with the edge of the sword." 17:13
22. "The Lord has sworn [God swears!] that the Lord will have war with Amalek from generation to generation." 17:14-16
23. Any person or animal that touches Mt. Sinai shall be stoned to death or "shot through." 19:12-13
24. God gives instructions for killing and burning animals. He says that if we will make such "burnt offerings," he will bless us for it. What kind of mind would be pleased by the killing and burning of innocent animals? 20:24
25. A child who hits or curses his parents must be executed. 21:15, 17
26. An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth. 21:24-25
27. If an ox gores someone, then both the ox and its owner must die. 21:28-29
28. "Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live." Thousands of innocent women have suffered excruciating deaths because of this verse. 22:18
29. "Whosoever lieth with a beast shall surely be put to death." Is it really necessary to kill such people? Couldn't we just send them to counseling or something? 22:19
30. "He who sacrificeth unto any god, save unto the Lord only, he shall be utterly destroyed." If this commandment is obeyed, then the four billion people who do not believe in the biblical god must be killed. 22:20
31. If you make God angry enough, he will kill you and your family with his own sword. 22:24
32. "The firstborn of thy sons thou shalt give unto me." (As a burnt offering?) 22:29
33. God promises to "send his fear before the Israelites" and to kill everyone that they encounter when they enter the promised land. 23:27
34. Moses has some animals killed and their dead bodies burned for God. Then he sprinkles their blood on the altar and on the people. This makes God happy. 24:5-8
35. Get some animals, kill them, chop up their bodies, wave body parts in the air, burn the carcasses, and sprinkle the blood all around -- in precisely the way God tells you. It may well make you sick, but it makes God feel good. 29:11-37
36. Have your killed and offered your bullock for a sin offering today? How about the two lambs you are supposed to offer each day? 29:36-39
37. Wash up or die. 30:20-21
38. Whoever puts holy oil on a stranger shall be "cut off from his people." 30:33
39. Those who break the Sabbath are to be executed. 31:14
40. God asks to be left alone so that his "wrath may wax hot" and he can "consume them. 32:10
41. God orders the sons of Levi (Moses, Aaron, and the other members of their tribe that were "on the Lord's side") to kill "every man his neighbor." "And there fell of the people that day about 3000 men." 32:27-28
42. But God wasn't satisfied with the slaughter of the 3000, so he killed some more people with a plague. 32:35
43. If you can't redeem him, then just "break his neck." Hey, it's all for the glory of God. 34:20
44. Whoever works, or even kindles a fire, on the Sabbath "shall be put to death." 35:2-3

[size=3]Leviticus[/size]

1. God gives detailed instructions for performing ritualistic animal sacrifices. such bloody rituals must be important to God, judging from the number of times that he repeats their instructions. Indeed the entire first nine chapters of Leviticus can be summarized as follows: Get an animal, kill it, sprinkle the blood around, cut the dead animal into pieces, and burn it for a "sweet savor unto the Lord." Chapters 1 - 9
2. Wringing off the heads of pigeons for God. 5:8-9
3. The holy law of trespass offering: Find an animal; kill it; sprinkle the blood around; offer God the fat, rump, kidneys, and caul; burn and eat it in the holy place, for "it is most holy." 7:1-6
4. The priest must sprinkle the blood of the peace offerings. 7:14
5. Be careful what you eat during these animal sacrifices. Don't eat fat or blood -- these are for God. (And he doesn't like to share!) 7:18-27
6. God gives instructions for "wave offerings" and "heave offerings." He says these offerings are to be made perpetually "by a statute for ever." Have you made your heave offering today? 7:30-36
7. Moses does it all for God. First he kills an animal; wipes the blood on Aaron's ears, thumbs, and big toes. Then he sprinkles blood round about and waves the guts before the Lord. Finally he burns the whole mess for "a sweet savour before the Lord." 8:14-32
8. More killing, sprinkling of blood, waiving animal parts, and burning carcasses "before the Lord." 9:8-21
9. Two of the sons of Aaron "offered strange fire before the Lord" and "there went out fire from the Lord, and devoured them, and they died before the Lord." 10:1-2
10. If priests misbehave at the tabernacle by uncovering their heads, tearing their clothes, leaving with holy oil on them, or by drinking "wine or strong drink", then God will kill them and send his wrath on "all the people." 10:6-9
11. God's treatment for leprosy: Get two birds. Kill one. Dip the live bird in the blood of the dead one. Sprinkle the blood on the leper seven times, and then let the blood-soaked bird fly off. Next find a lamb and kill it. Wipe some of its blood on the patient's right ear, thumb, and big toe. Sprinkle seven times with oil and wipe some of the oil on his right ear, thumb and big toe. Repeat. Finally kill a couple doves and offer one for a sin offering and the other for a burnt offering. 14:2-32
12. God explains the use of scapegoats. It goes like this: Get two goats. Kill one. Wipe, smear, and sprinkle the blood around seven times. Then take the other goat, give it the sins of all the people, and send it off into the wilderness. 16:6-28
13. If you upset God, he'll cause the land to vomit you out. 18:25
14. "Whosoever shall commit any of these abominations ... shall be cut off from among their people." I'm not sure what being "cut off" means exactly, but I bet it isn't any fun. 18:29, 19:8
15. Kill anyone who "gives his seed" to Molech. If you refuse, God will cut you and your family off. 20:2-5
16. "For every one that curseth his father or his mother shall surely be put to death." Couldn't we try spanking first? 20:9
17. Both parties in adultery shall be executed. 20:10
18. "And the man that lieth with his father's wife ... both of them shall be put to death." Which? The man and his father? The father and his wife? Or the man and his father's wife? Oh heck, just kill all three. 20:11
19. If a man "lies" with his daughter-in-law, then both must be killed. 20:12
20. Homosexuals must be executed. 20:13
21. If you "lie" with your wife and your mother-in-law (now that sounds fun!), then all three of you must be burned to death. 20:14
22. If a man or woman "lie with a beast" both the person and the poor animal are to be killed. 20:15-16
23. People with "familiar spirits" (witches, fortune tellers, etc.) are to be stoned to death. 20:27
24. A priest's daughter who "plays the whore" is to be burned to death. 21:9
25. God gives us more instructions on killing and burning animals. I guess the first nine chapters of Leviticus wasn't enough. He says we must do this because he really likes the smell -- it is "a sweet savour unto the Lord." 23:12-14, 18
26. Don't do any work on the day of atonement or God will destroy you. 23:29-30
27. A man curses and blasphemes while disputing with another man. Moses asks God what to do about it. God says that the whole community must stone him to death. "And the children of Israel did as the Lord and Moses commanded." 24:10-23
28. Anyone who blasphemes or curses shall be stoned to death by the entire community. 24:16
29. God tells the Israelites to "chase" their enemies and make them "fall before you by the sword." He figures five of the Israelites will be able to "chase" a hundred of their enemies, and a hundred will be able to "put ten thousand to flight." 26:7-8
30. God describes torments that he has planned for those who displease him. The usual stuff: plagues, burning fevers that will consume the eyes, etc. but he reserves the worst for the little children. He says "ye shall sow your seed in vain, for your enemies shall eat it", "I will send wild beasts among you, which shall rob you of your children", and "ye shall eat the flesh of your sons .. daughters." 26:16-39
31. All "devoted" things (both man and beast) "shall surely be put to death." 27:28-29 :</a>::::::-->Numbers
32. God displays his hospitality with the admonition: "The stranger that cometh nigh shall be put to death." 1:51
33. Two of Aaron's sons are killed by God for "offering strange fire before the Lord." 3:4
34. God repeats his order (see 1:51) to kill any strangers who happen to come near. 3:10
35. Once again (see 1:51 and 3:10) God tells his favorite people to kill any strangers that come near. 3:38
36. Don't touch or "go in to see when the holy things are covered." God kills people who touch or look at uncovered holy things. 4:15, 4:20
37. "And when the people complained, it displeased the Lord: and the Lord heard it." (He had his hearing aid on.) He then burns the complainers alive. That'll teach them. 11:1
38. "And wile the flesh [of the quails] was yet between their teeth, ere it was chewed, the wrath of the Lord was kindled against the people, and the Lord smote the people with a very great plague. "The Bible isn't too clear about what these poor folks did to upset God so much; all it says is that they had "lusted." 11:33
39. More plagues and pestilence sent by God. God repeats one of his favorite promises: "your carcasses shall fall in this wilderness." 14:12, 29, 14:32-37
40. God gives more instructions for the ritualistic killing of animals. The smell of burning flesh is "a sweet savour unto the Lord." 15:3, 13-14, 24
41. The Israelites find a man picking up sticks on the sabbath. God commands them to kill him by throwing rocks at him. 15:32-36
42. Because of a dispute between Korah and Moses, God makes the ground open up and it swallows Korah and his family. And then, just for the hell of it, God has a fire burn 250 men (friends of Korah?) to death. 16:20-49
43. After God killed Korah, his family, and 250 innocent bystanders, the people complained saying, "ye have killed the people of the Lord." So God, who doesn't take kindly to criticism, sends a plague on the people. And "they that died in the plague were 14,700." 16:41-50
44. God threatens to kill those who murmur. To which the people reply, "Behold, we die, we perish, we all perish .... Shall we be consumed with dying?" 17:12-13
45. According to this verse, it is wise to stay away from holy things and places -- like churches. God will kill you if you get too close. 18:3
46. God shows us how to make new friends by saying : "The stranger that cometh nigh shall be put to death." 18:7
47. God describes once again the procedure for ritualistic animal sacrifices. such rituals must be extremely important to God, since he makes their performance a "statute" and "covenant" forever. Why, then don't Bible-believers perform these sacrifices anymore? Don't they realize how God must miss the "sweet savour" of burning flesh? Don't they believe God when he says "forever"? 18:17-19
48. Don't get near holy things or "pollute" them. If you do, God will kill you. 18:22, 32
49. The purification of the unclean. These absurd rituals, cruel sacrifices, and unjust punishments are vitally important to God. He even insists that they are to be "a perpetual statute" to all humankind. 19:1-22
50. "And the Lord hearkened to the voice of Israel, and delivered up the Canaanites; and they utterly destroyed them and their cities." This verse demonstrates the power of prayer: If you ask God, he will destroy entire cities for you. 21:3
51. God sends "fiery serpents" to bite his chosen people, and many of them die. 21:6
52. God delivers the Amorites into Moses' hands. (You're in God hands with Moses.) So Moses does the usual thing, killing everyone "until their was none left alive." 21:34-35
53. God's people will kill like a lion and then "drink the blood of the slain." 23:24
54. God, who is as strong as a unicorn, will eat up the nations, break their bones, and then pierce them through with his arrows. What a guy! 24:8
55. After the people "commit whoredom with the daughters of Moab," Moses has them all killed. Then God tells Moses to hang their dead bodies up in front of him; God says that this will satisfy him. 25:1-5
56. When one of the Israelite men brings home a foreign woman, "Phinehas (Aaron's grandson) sees them and throws a spear "through the man .. and the woman through her belly." This act pleases God so much that "the plague was stayed from the children of Israel." But not before 24,000 had died. 25:6-9
57. God tells Moses how to care for his neighbors by saying: "Vex the Midianites, and smite them." 25:16-17
58. The ground swallow Korah and his companions and a fire consumes 250 men. 26:10
59. "And Nadab and Abihu died when they offered strange fire before the Lord." When you go camping avoid making any unusual fires. 26:61
60. In these chapters, God provides ridiculously detailed instructions for the ritualistic sacrifice of animals. The burning of their dead bodies smells great to God. Eleven times in these two chapters God says that they are to him a "sweet savour."
61. Under God's direction, Moses' army defeats the Midianites. They kill all the adult males, but take the women and children captive. When Moses learns that they left some live, he angrily says: "Have you saved all the women alive? Kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves." So they went back and did as Moses (and presumably God) instructed, killing everyone except for the virgins. In this way they got 32,000 virgins -- Wow! [Even God gets some of the booty -- including the virgins. (31:28-29)] 31:1-54 28-29
62. God killed all the Egyptian firstborn. 33:4
63. "The revenger of blood" must murder the murderer just as soon as he sees him. 35:19, 21
64. When a murder is committed the blood pollutes the land. The only way to cleanse it is to spill more blood by killing the killer. 35:33

[size=3]Deuteronomy[/size]

1. "The Lord destroyed them before them" -- the general treatment of the people who were supposedly displaced by the Israelites. 2:21-22
2. God hardened the heart of the king of Heshbon and so that he could have him and all of his people killed. 2:30
3. At God's instructions, the Israelites "utterly destroyed the men, women, and the little ones" leaving "none to remain." 2:33-36
4. Again the Israelites kill everyone: "men, women, and children, of every city." 3:3,6
5. When going to war, don't be afraid. God is on your side; "he shall fight for you." 3:22
6. God destoyed the followers of Baalpeor. 4:3
7. If you worship the wrong god, God will get jealous and kill you. 6:15
8. God instructs the Israelites to kill, without mercy, all the inhabitants (strangers) of the land that they conquer. 7:2
9. If you do show any mercy to such strangers, "give your daughters to any of them, or "take" any of their daughters, then you'll get God so angry that he'll "destroy thee suddenly." 7:4
10. God will kill those who hate him. 7:10
11. God commands his people to "consume all the people which the Lord thy God shall deliver thee; thine eye shall have no pity on them." 7:16
12. God will send hornets to kill your enemies, "for the Lord thy God is among you, a mighty God and terrible." 7:20-23
13. God is "a consuming fire" that destroys people. 9:3
14. "The blood of sacrifices shall be poured out ... and thou shalt eat the flesh." Isn't this the sort of thing that satanists are accused of doing? 12:27
15. Prophets and dreamers are to be executed if they say or dream the wrong things. 13:1-5
16. If your brother, son, daughter, wife, or friend tries to get you to worship another god, "thou shalt surely kill him, thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death." If Bible-believers followed this one, they would have to kill many of their own family and friends. 13:6-10
17. If you hear of a city where another god is worshiped, then destroy everyone in the city (even the cattle) and burn it down. (Watch out Salt Lake!) 13:12-16
18. Kill everyone who has religious beliefs that are different from your own. 17:2-7
19. Anyone who will not listen to a priest or a judge must be executed. 17:12-13
20. False prophets are to be (you guessed it) executed. How do you know who is a false prophet? By whether or not their predictions come true. (Watch out Jehovah's Witnesses!) 18:20
21. Murderers and perjurers are to be executed -- "and thine eye shall not pity" them. 19:11-13, 18-21
22. God travels with people and fights in their wars. 20:4
23. In the cities that god "delivers into thine hands" you must kill all the males (including old men, boys, and babies) with "the edge of the sword .... But the women ... shalt thou take unto yourself." 20:13
24. "But of the cities ... which the Lord thy God doth give thee for an inheritance, thou shalt save alive nothing that breatheth." Kill the old men and women, the sick and the dying, the blind and the lame, pregnant mothers, nursing mothers, infants, toddlers, and babies. 20:16
25. If you find a dead body and don't know the cause of death, then get all the elders together, cut off the head of a heifer, wash your hands over its body, and say our hands have not shed this blood. (That'll do it!) 21:1-8
26. If you have a "stubborn and rebellious son," then you and the other men in your neighborhood "shall stone him with stones that he die." 21:18-21
27. Hang on trees the bodies of those who are "accursed of God." They make nice decorations. 21:22
28. If a man marries, then decides that he hates his wife, he can claim she wasn't a virgin when they were married. If her father can't produce the "tokens of her virginity" (bloody sheets), then the woman is to be stoned to death at her father's doorstep. 22:13-21
29. "If a man be found lying with a woman married to a husband, then they shall both of them die." 22:22
30. If a betrothed virgin is raped in the city and doesn't cry out loud enough, then "the men of the city shall stone her to death." 22:23-24
31. If two men fight and the wife of one grabs the "secrets" of the other, "then thou shalt cut off her hand" and "thy eye shall not pity her." 25:11-12
32. God commands the Israelites to "blot out the rembrance of Amalek from under heaven." A few hundred years later God orders Saul to kill of the Amalekites "both man and woman, infant and suckling." (1 Sam.15:2-3) 25:19
33. "Cursed shall be the fruit of thy body." 28:18
34. If you misbehave, god will send you "cursing, vexing, the pestilence, consumption, fever, inflammation, extreme burning, the sword, blasting, and mildew." 28:20-22
35. "And thy carcass shall be meat to all the fowls of the air." 28:25-26
36. "The Lord will smite thee with the botch of Egypt, and the emerods [hemorrhoids], and with the scab, and with the itch, whereof thou canst be healed. The Lord will smite thee with madness, and blindness, and astonishment of heart." 28:27-28
37. "Thine ox shall be slain before thine eyes." 28:31
38. Thy sons and thy daughters shall be given unto another people." 28:32
39. You will be enslaved and driven mad in another country. 28:33-34
40. "The Lord will smite thee in the knees, and in the legs, with a sore botch that cannot be healed, from the sole of thy foot unto the top of thy head." 28:35
41. You will be ruled by other nations, forced to serve other gods, become a laughingstock among your neighbors, have your crops destroyed by locusts, your vines eaten by worms, and have fruitless olive trees. 28:36-40
42. "Thou shalt begat sons and daughters, but thou shall not enjoy them; for they shall go into captivity." 28:41
43. "All these curses shall come upon thee ... and upon thy seed for ever." 28:48-49
44. God will enslave you and destoy you with hunger, thirst, hardship, and all kinds of deprivation. 28:48-52
45. "And thou shalt eat the fruit of thine own body, the flesh of thy sons and of thy daughters." 28:53-55
46. "The tender and delicate woman" will be forced to eat her own children "that cometh out from between her feet." 28:56-57
47. If you don't do as God says he'll send plagues to torment and destroy you. 28:58-67
48. God will have you sold to your enemies -- but even they won't buy you. 28:68
49. God, in his jealousy, "will not spare him and will smite him with "all the curses that are in this book." 29:20
50. "And the Lord will put all these curses upon thine enemies." See Dt.28:16-64 for some of the curses God has in mind. 30:7
51. When God gets mad -- watch out! He'll starve you to death, burn you with fire, and send vicious beasts to devour you. He'll "destroy both the young man and the virgin, the suckling also with the man of gray hairs." Not even the helpless and innocent are spared by this psychotic God. 32:21-26
52. God says, "To me belongeth vengeance, and recompense ... for the day of their destruction is at hand." God's attitude seems to be: "Go ahead, make my day." 32:35
53. God says, "I kill ... I wound ... I will make my arrows drunk with blood, and my sword shall devour flesh." Someone should take his sword and arrows away, at least until he's feeling better. 32:39-43

[size=3]Joshua[/size]

1. "And the city shall be accursed ... and all that therein, to the Lord: only Rahab the harlot shall live." God explains that Rahab is to be spared since she hid Joshua's spies and lied to those who were searching for them (2:4-5). But why was everyone else killed? Some of them were probably liars too. 6:17
2. "And they utterly destroyed all that was in the city, both man and woman, young and old, and ox, and sheep, and ass, with the edge of the sword." 6:21
3. After killing everyone, "they burnt the city with fire, and all that was therein." Only the valuables (silver, gold, brass, and iron) did they keep to "put into the treasury of the house of the Lord." 6:24
4. Joshua says that those who try to rebuild Jericho will be accursed by God, and will have to sacrifice both their oldest and their youngest sons in its construction. Well, Jericho still exists today, and is often considered to be the world's oldest, continuously occupied city. 6:26
5. If you happen to see "the accursed thing," don't touch it. If you do, you, your family, and all of your animals must be burned. 7:15
6. "And Joshua ... took Achan ... and his sons, and his daughters, and his oxen, and his sheep... And all of Israel stoned them with stones, and burned them with fire, after they had stoned them with stones." This is because Achan "took of the accursed thing" -- whatever that means. But why would God require that Achan's sons and daughters (and even his animals) be stoned to death along with him? The Bible doesn't say. But it does tell us that "the Lord turned from the fierceness of his anger" when Achan, his children, and his animals were stoned to death and their dead bodies burned. This story tells us about the loving kindness of the biblical God. 7:24-16
7. "When ye have taken the city [Ai] ... ye shall set the city on fire: according to the commandment of the LORD. 8:8
8. Joshua and his army, per God's instructions, slaughter "all the inhabitants of Ai." 8:22-26
9. Joshua hangs the king of Ai on a tree until evening. 8:29
10. After Joshua kills all the inhabitants of Ai, burns their city, and hangs their king on a tree, he kills some animals and burns them as a "peace offering" to his warlike God. 8:31
11. God curses the Gibeonites to be slaves of the Jews forever. 9:21-27
12. God slaughters the Amorites and even chases them "along the way" as they try to escape. Then he sends down huge hailstones and kills even more of them. 10:10-11
13. In a divine type of daylight savings time, God makes the sun stand still so that Joshua can get all his killing done before dark. 10:12-13
14. God tells Joshua to "pursue after your enemies and smite the hindmost of them." (Kick their butts.) Don't let any of them escape "for the Lord your God hath delivered them into your hand." 10:19
15. Joshua tells his captains to "put your feet upon the necks of these kings." He says, "thus shall the Lord do to all of your enemies." Then Joshua kills the kings and hangs them on trees. 10:24-26
16. Joshua, at God's command, kills everyone and everything that he can find (including babies and little children)-- or, as the Bible puts it, he "utterly destroyed all that breathed, as the Lord commanded." 10:28-32
17. God delivers the Hazorites into Joshua's hand, and he knows just what to do with them: he smites them all with (you guessed it) the edge of the sword until "there was not any left to breathe." 11:6-17
18. "And Joshua did unto them as the LORD bade him: he houghed their horses." 11:9
19. "For it was of the Lord to harden their hearts, that they should come against Israel in battle, that he might destroy them utterly." Notice that God hardens their hearts so that he can have an excuse to kill them. 11:20
20. "Did not Achan son of Zerah commit a trespass in the accursed thing, and wrath fell on all the congregation of Israel?" To find out see Joshua 7:1-26. 22:20
21. God is jealous and will never forgive you for your sins. "He will turn and do you hurt, and consume you." 24:19-20

Bron: http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/cruelty/long.html

[voicelesscharlie]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Acid

Het verschil tussen een democratie en een dictatuur is dat een dictatuur toegeeft dat ze dictatoriale trekjes heeft.

Laen we zeggen dat we in en democratuur leven.

[jules]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Distel

... is heel normaal wanneer het een politieke afrekening betreft waarvoor de machtshebbers speciaal wetten hebben veranderd. Natuurlijk zien we die verontwaardiging alleen bij mensen met een democratische reflex.

Nu zullen er wel een paar mensen door het lint gaan, maar soit.

Ik vind het niet meer dan normaal dat als er een bepaalde wet wordt goedgekeurd (anti-racismewet bv.), dat de staat er dan ook voor zorgt dat die wet in de praktijk kan toegepast worden.

Kortom, als het goed toepassen van de antiracismewet impliceert dat er nevenwetten moeten worden gestemd om een racistische organisatie aan te pakken, dan is het louter een daad van goed bestuur om die nevenwetten te stemmen !!! De staat heeft namelijk de plicht om gestemde wetten ook in de praktijk uitvoerbaar te maken.

[Knuppel]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Raf

Verontschuldig mij, Distel De Grote, dat ik me niet eerst op jouw alwetendheid heb beroept alvorens uitspraken te doen over het thema "democratie".

In een democratie wordt naar de stem van het HELE volk geluisterd.
Niet naar een selectief deel daarvan.

Enkel in een dictauur worden ongewenste partijen door de machthebber(s) uitgeschakeld.

Distel heeft dus gelijk en jij ongelijk.

[Knuppel]

Wij leven zowiso niet in een democratie maar in een particratie.

[Löwe]

Ik ben van mening dat we nog in een vorm van democratie leven, echter sommige aspecten komen wel in het gedrang...
Het in twijfel trekken van het democratische gehalte van de Belgische onstaat is een goede zaak omdat het uitstekende propaganda voor het VB (en zijn opvolger) is.

[Knuppel]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Löwe

Ik ben van mening dat we nog in een vorm van democratie leven, echter sommige aspecten komen wel in het gedrang...
Het in twijfel trekken van het democratische gehalte van de Belgische onstaat is een goede zaak omdat het uitstekende propagande voor het VB (en zijn opvolger) is.

Ik hoop eerder dat een goed zaak is voor de democratie.

[Zijne Heerlijkheid]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Knuppel

Wij leven zowiso niet in een democratie maar in een particratie.

Juist. Vind ik ook.

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Knuppel

In een democratie wordt naar de stem van het HELE volk geluisterd.

Fout. In een democratie wordt naar de stem van de meerderheid geluisterd.

[ancapa]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Werkslaaf

Zeer gefundeerde stelling en bedankt voor de quotes. Ik had niet anders verwacht.

www.secularislam.org
www.islamreview.com

omdat het niet de wil van allah is...

kunstmatig in leven houden wel

[ancapa]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Brugge Veilig en Leefbaar

Ja, alvast tot het Blok aan de macht komt, dan is het gedaan. Kijken naar Schindler's List vanavond... 8)

al drie keer gezien, goede film trouwens toevallige programmatie, stoort niet hoor