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Oud 15 juli 2004, 14:35   #81
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nananana: jij bent toch een anti semiet , WANT ik zeg het
denk jij maar je wil he.

en terug on topic : vree grappig, vermits IK deze thread heb gestart


Sorry hoor ik zal het niet meer doen


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maar er komen af en toe zo'n types die dan de man beginnen spelen he 8)



Euh waar is het on topic gedeelte?
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tja, het blijft dus hetzelfde verhaaltje he

ZOALS ik reeds zegde ik heb deze thread gestart...
het zijn altijd typtjes zoals jij die dan de belachelijke persoonlijke toer opgaan 8)


en dan maar komen klagen dat we van topic gaan....straf vermits ZIJ het steeds zijn die eraan beginnen
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tja, het blijft dus hetzelfde verhaaltje he

ZOALS ik reeds zegde ik heb deze thread gestart...
het zijn altijd typtjes zoals jij die dan de belachelijke persoonlijke toer opgaan 8)


en dan maar komen klagen dat we van topic gaan....straf vermits ZIJ het steeds zijn die eraan beginnen
En nogmaals waarom blijf je of topic leuteren als er hierboven nog een post staat waar je niet op geanwtoord hebt?

Om het je makkelijk te maken (je hebt het nodig denk ik : )

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het is mogelijk
maar weinig toepasbaar...en het slagveld (want dat is het) is nu eenmaal een dynamisch en snel evoluerende scenario. en je veronderstelt toch niet dat jij op voorhand weet dat voertuig X daar zal zijn op moment Y ? occasioneel wel en dan kan dat dus. bovendien veronderstel je toch geeneens dat je merkava'saltijd braaf "de weg" zullen volgen
Je draait rond de pot, het is mogelijk, het is gedaan jouw rechtvaardiging om burgers aan te vallen was dus onzin.

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wat de financiele steun betreft, moeten de Palestijnen idd alles doen om die te verzekeren. Hoe ze ze krijgen, laat me eerlijk gezegd volkomen koud...
Punt is dat ze steeds minder krijgen en je ziet dat, de middelen worden beperkter en ze kunnen amper nog aanslagen doen. De palestijnen zakken ook steeds verder weg in een economische put .


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idd met een grote militaire operatie zou men ineens de hele regio etnisch kunnen zuiveren....ze doen het echter liever geleidelijk aan.
Toen ze een goed jaar geleden echt militair een dorp binnentrokken, was de wereldwijde verontwaardiging toch net iets te sterk..
Nee israel trekt zich bijna nooit ergens iets van aan, kijk maar naar hun veiligheidshek .

En dat ze langzaam de palestijnen etnisch aan het zuiveren zijn is onzin, het is van hetzelfde kaliber als de palesijnen die beweren dat ze het water vergiftigen zodat de moslims impotent worden


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Als die muur daar staat, zullen ze wel wat veiliger zijn, dat betwijfel ik niet. stel voor dat ze hem bouwen op de grenzen van 67, maar ja, dan kunnen ze geen land pikken he
Nogmaals volgens oslo zijn er geen vastliggende grenzen, de grens van 67' is ook gewoon daar waar de oorlog stopte .

Hadden ze dat hek volledig kunnen zetten op wat nu israel is? Ja tuurlijk maar moeilijker en met minder veiligheid .


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Maar dat bedoel ik niet;
de haat die de israeli's hebben gezaaid bij de palestijnen is ruimschoots voldoende dat de kleinkinderen van de huidige palestijnse kinderen israel nog intens zullen haten.
Onzin, al van in het begin zijn er problemen tussen arabieren en joden. Dat heeft niks met die joden te maken maar alles met de jaloezie en haat van die moslims . Nog voor israel bestond hate veel moslims de joden al

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er is geen leger in de regio dat Israel aankan, en zelfs al zou er één zijn, de grote vriend USA is er nog en heeft hen ook nog "the big one" cadeau gedaan...
Als je het hebt over atoomwapens moet ik je teleurstellen, de VS heeft allesbehalve dat cadeau gedaan aan israel.

Frankrijk heeft de meeste technologie aan israel gegeven en israel samen met zuid afrika hebben die kennis gebruikt om atoomwapens te maken. Het is dus dankzij frankrijk .

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Maar ik heb het over aanslagen in het hart van israel , met een ABC wapen, lange smalle strook, dichte bevolkingscentra, drie tot vier locaties uitkizen , optimale spreiding en windrichting en israel is bye bye...
West bank en gaza ook, dat besef je blijkbaar niet . 'het hart van israel' ligt op enkele km's van gaza EN west bank hoor israel is heel klein.


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Dat zou een hollywoodfilm kunnen zijn, 8)
En jouw natte droom ongetwijfeld, ik vraag me af hoe je zo een volk kan haten dat je nooit iets gedaan heeft. Heb je meer van die irrationele walgelijke gedachten?

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maar als er vandaag de dag reeds palestijenen zijn die hun leven willen geven door zichzelf op te blazen,waarom zouden er binnen de 10 a 50 jaar geen dergelijke aanslag kunnen gebeuren...dan is het niet zozeer een mogelijk maar een te verwachten scenario...
Iraq, syrie,libie en nog een heleboel anderen hebben miljarden en decenia onderzoek in de zoektocht naar nucleaire wapens gestoken en wat hebben ze nu : niks. De palestijnen onder constante controle met veel kleinere middelen kunnen dat zelf nooit ontwikkelen.

Misschien kunnen ze een wapen kopen maar zelfs dat is eerder science fiction dan realiteit.


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nee, op lange termijn ziet het er niet goed uit Israel...
Nee je hoopt dat gewoon, de toekomst voor israel ziet er goed uit, eens hun hek compleet is zullen de meeste aanslagen wegvallen, minder soldaten nodig, economisch herstel . En wie weet als de palestijnen ooit genoeg krijgen van elkaar uit te moorden kan er misschien nog eens mee gesproken worden.
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tja, het blijft dus hetzelfde verhaaltje he

ZOALS ik reeds zegde ik heb deze thread gestart...
het zijn altijd typtjes zoals jij die dan de belachelijke persoonlijke toer opgaan 8)


en dan maar komen klagen dat we van topic gaan....straf vermits ZIJ het steeds zijn die eraan beginnen
En nogmaals waarom blijf je of topic leuteren als er hierboven nog een post staat waar je niet op geanwtoord hebt?

Ik doe dat niet, ik heb immers de topic gestart!!
Om het je makkelijk te maken (je hebt het nodig denk ik : )

grappig , wel kinderlijk maar kom , dat zijn we ondertussen van jou reeds gewend....

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het is mogelijk
maar weinig toepasbaar...en het slagveld (want dat is het) is nu eenmaal een dynamisch en snel evoluerende scenario. en je veronderstelt toch niet dat jij op voorhand weet dat voertuig X daar zal zijn op moment Y ? occasioneel wel en dan kan dat dus. bovendien veronderstel je toch geeneens dat je merkava'saltijd braaf "de weg" zullen volgen
Je draait rond de pot, het is mogelijk, het is gedaan jouw rechtvaardiging om burgers aan te vallen was dus onzin.

Ik heb nooit beweerd dat het onmogelijk is, maar meestal is het NIET te doen , dat "vergeet" je natuurlijk liever
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wat de financiele steun betreft, moeten de Palestijnen idd alles doen om die te verzekeren. Hoe ze ze krijgen, laat me eerlijk gezegd volkomen koud...
Punt is dat ze steeds minder krijgen en je ziet dat, de middelen worden beperkter en ze kunnen amper nog aanslagen doen. De palestijnen zakken ook steeds verder weg in een economische put .

dat ze het niet makkelijk hebben , is overduidelijk me dunkt !
dus moeten ze idd alles doen om hun RECHTVAARDIGE verzet OP EENDER WELKE MANIER verder te zetten


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idd met een grote militaire operatie zou men ineens de hele regio etnisch kunnen zuiveren....ze doen het echter liever geleidelijk aan.
Toen ze een goed jaar geleden echt militair een dorp binnentrokken, was de wereldwijde verontwaardiging toch net iets te sterk..
Nee israel trekt zich bijna nooit ergens iets van aan, kijk maar naar hun veiligheidshek .

TOCH hebben ze het toen zeer lastig gehad en het was vooral de US steun die toen in het gedrang dreigde te komen, dat én de wereldweide verontwaardiging hebben hen toen toch wat doen inbinden, anders hadden die landpikkers misschien dit nog op andere gebieden toegepast...

En dat ze langzaam de palestijnen etnisch aan het zuiveren zijn is onzin, het is van hetzelfde kaliber als de palesijnen die beweren dat ze het water vergiftigen zodat de moslims impotent worden


straf ! onzin.leuk argument... MAAR HET IS WEL ZO, men is bezig met een etnische zuivering van de palestijenen.
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Als die muur daar staat, zullen ze wel wat veiliger zijn, dat betwijfel ik niet. stel voor dat ze hem bouwen op de grenzen van 67, maar ja, dan kunnen ze geen land pikken he
Nogmaals volgens oslo zijn er geen vastliggende grenzen, de grens van 67' is ook gewoon daar waar de oorlog stopte .

Hadden ze dat hek volledig kunnen zetten op wat nu israel is? Ja tuurlijk maar moeilijker en met minder veiligheid .


moeilijker
tja, d�*t is natuurlijk OOK een argument om land te pikken als een ander
!


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Maar dat bedoel ik niet;
de haat die de israeli's hebben gezaaid bij de palestijnen is ruimschoots voldoende dat de kleinkinderen van de huidige palestijnse kinderen israel nog intens zullen haten.
Onzin, al van in het begin zijn er problemen tussen arabieren en joden. Dat heeft niks met die joden te maken maar alles met de jaloezie en haat van die moslims . Nog voor israel bestond hate veel moslims de joden al
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dat is niet waar, er zijn al heel wat teksten gepubliceerd hier van joden die goed samen leefden met moslims. echter toen het ZIONISME begon, is de verstandhouding vertroubeld

er is geen leger in de regio dat Israel aankan, en zelfs al zou er één zijn, de grote vriend USA is er nog en heeft hen ook nog "the big one" cadeau gedaan...
Als je het hebt over atoomwapens moet ik je teleurstellen, de VS heeft allesbehalve dat cadeau gedaan aan israel.

Frankrijk heeft de meeste technologie aan israel gegeven en israel samen met zuid afrika hebben die kennis gebruikt om atoomwapens te maken. Het is dus dankzij frankrijk .


wie wil het non proliferatie verdrag NIET toepassen op israel
en er was wel degelijk amerikaanse steun onder de vorm van info

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Maar ik heb het over aanslagen in het hart van israel , met een ABC wapen, lange smalle strook, dichte bevolkingscentra, drie tot vier locaties uitkizen , optimale spreiding en windrichting en israel is bye bye...
West bank en gaza ook, dat besef je blijkbaar niet . 'het hart van israel' ligt op enkele km's van gaza EN west bank hoor israel is heel klein.

tuurlijk wel !
SO ? als er vandaag al zovelen zich opofferen, waarom zou men dat dan niet grootser aanpakken , als je de windrichting juist inschat, zal er slecht één van die regio's getroffen worden.en dan nog secundair. Militair gezien een aanvaardbare situatie


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Dat zou een hollywoodfilm kunnen zijn, 8)
En jouw natte droom ongetwijfeld, ik vraag me af hoe je zo een volk kan haten dat je nooit iets gedaan heeft. Heb je meer van die irrationele walgelijke gedachten?

ik haat hen niet
irrationeel ? nee, JUIST HEEL erg de ratio voor gebruikt ! en ook realiseerbaar mits juiste mensen , materiaal en info (en beetje zoals een tank uitschakelen , nietwaar, zeer uitzonderlijk maar mogelijk indien perfect uitgevoerd)


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maar als er vandaag de dag reeds palestijenen zijn die hun leven willen geven door zichzelf op te blazen,waarom zouden er binnen de 10 a 50 jaar geen dergelijke aanslag kunnen gebeuren...dan is het niet zozeer een mogelijk maar een te verwachten scenario...
Iraq, syrie,libie en nog een heleboel anderen hebben miljarden en decenia onderzoek in de zoektocht naar nucleaire wapens gestoken en wat hebben ze nu : niks. De palestijnen onder constante controle met veel kleinere middelen kunnen dat zelf nooit ontwikkelen.

Misschien kunnen ze een wapen kopen maar zelfs dat is eerder science fiction dan realiteit.

ik zou ook niet nucleair gaan.... half time is a bitch
nee, eerder chemisch (desnoods biologisch, maar dat is ook moeilijk om te beheersen) met de juiste spreiding en dus windrichting, maximaal effect in Israel met minimale verliezen aan palestijnen



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nee, op lange termijn ziet het er niet goed uit Israel...
Nee je hoopt dat gewoon, de toekomst voor israel ziet er goed uit, eens hun hek compleet is zullen de meeste aanslagen wegvallen, minder soldaten nodig, economisch herstel . En wie weet als de palestijnen ooit genoeg krijgen van elkaar uit te moorden kan er misschien nog eens mee gesproken worden.
weeral die glazen bol die stelt wat ik hoop
die haat die ze gezaaid hebben zal er nog voor eeuwen zijn, economisch herstel? mja de defensieuitgaven zullen licht naar beneden kunnen, maar véél ?denk het niet. en ondertussen is de economische schade een feit. herstelllen is heel wat moeilijker dan creeren, dat merken wij nu nog steeds.
nee, op lange termijn gok ik zeer zeker niet op Israel. jij wel ? jouw goed recht natuurlijk ! je hebt immers een glazen bol die de ene onwaarheid verkondigt na de andere, maar kom
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Breakdown of Palestinian child deaths January-April 2004


In the first four months of 2004, DCI/PS recorded that a total of 37 Palestinian children were killed as a direct result of Israeli military and settler presence in the Occupied Palestinian Territories. Their death brings to 551 the total number of Palestinian children killed since the second intifada began on 28 September 2000.
Key facts: January-April 2003

· While child fatalities were relatively light in the first two months of the year, with only three deaths recorded in February, the number of children killed increased dramatically in March and April, as Israel launched renewed invasions in Gaza. During March some 13 children were killed, and the figure rose to 15 in April, with many more minors injured, some critically.

· The assassination in March and April respectively of the Hamas leaders Sheikh Ahmed Yassin and Abdel Aziz Rantissi sparked international outrage over Israel’s policy of extra-judicial killings. Such killings, carried out with scant regard for innocent bystanders, have become a regular occurrence over the course of this intifada. While no children were killed in the missile attacks on Yassin and Rantissi, Tarek Sawassy an 11-year-old from Gaza City and 10-year old Mo’ataz al-Sharafi from Jabaliya died after Israeli helicopter gunships fired missiles in two separate incidents in February in the attempted assassination of alleged Palestinian activists. Their deaths bring to 47 the number of children to have been killed in assassination attempts since the start of the intifada.

· Two of the children to have died at the hands of Israeli forces in the first four months of the year were under eight years old. Khaled Maher Walwil, aged six, was shot in the back as he turned away from the window on the second floor of his house in Nablus. Khaled had stayed at home that day, 1 March, too frightened to go to school because there were Israeli soldiers in the area. Just over a month later, during the Israeli invasions of the northern Gaza Strip, four-year old Asma Ali Abu Qlaiq suffered respiratory failure after Israeli forces fired tear close canisters near the family’s house.

· Just under 80 per cent of all Palestinian child deaths in January-April 2004 occurred in Gaza, where casualties were particularly high in March and April when Israeli forces launched raids on camps and towns in the Strip. In total 29 children, including all three girl child fatalities were killed in Gaza. Several children were participating in or watching clashes between Palestinian stone throwers and Israeli tanks when they were killed, others died during Israeli air and ground attacks.

· Six of the nine children to die as a result of randomly-opened gunfire were also from Gaza. One of these, 10-year old Mona Hamadi Abu Tabaq, was returning from the supermarket with her younger brother Hassan when she was killed on 22 April. “There were no clashes going on and we’d not heard any shooting,” Hassan told DCI/PS. “All of a sudden there was the sound of gunfire and Mona was shot in her left leg. She tried to run away but she was shot again in her right arm. Seconds later she was shot for the third time, this time in the abdomen. She fell and I tried to carry her but I couldn’t – I screamed her name and a neighbour rushed to help, picking her up. I began to cry and ran home to tell my father what had happened. We went to hospital but Mona died five hours later.”

· Over half of the children to be killed in January-April died as a result of injuries sustained to their upper bodies. In two of the cases the injuries were caused by missile fragments, in addition a total of nine children were shot in the head, while five were shot in the chest. Of the four children to die after being shot in the back, two were shot with exploding bullets. A further 14 children died after sustaining multiple wounds.

tja, en dan de bezetting maar braafjes ondergaan en als je je verzet je AK nemen en een tank of helicopter beschieten zodat je meteen overhoop geblazen wordt..... waarom zouden ze dat nu niet doen he en eerder de huidige tactieken toepassen waardoor de wereld tenminste op de hoogte is van het israelische terrorisme ?
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Onzin, al van in het begin zijn er problemen tussen arabieren en joden. Dat heeft niks met die joden te maken maar alles met de jaloezie en haat van die moslims . Nog voor israel bestond hate veel moslims de joden al
Dat is juist en het is ingebakken in de Koran. Er zijn er zo'n 20-tal.

De jodenvervolging en de ethnic cleansing in het algemeen is trouwens een uitvinding van "de profeet" die er al mee begon in Medina.
Hier een algemene beschrijving ervan.
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DEFINITION: The status of People of the Book (Jews and Christians) unders Islamic rule.

DHIMMI HOTSPOTS:
Pakistan: anti-Christian legislation
Iran: Systematic oppression of the Bahai community
Sudan: Murder and enslavement of Black Africans
Saudi Arabia: Apartheid for all non-Muslims
Indonesia: Terrorizing of Christian minorities
Egypt: Oppression of Coptic Christians
Bangladesh: Terrorizing of Hindu and Christian minorities by Islamic radicals

DHIMMI: A BRIEF OVERVIEW
7th-21st century. The notion of Dhimmitude, originating in the 7th century, still applies today to non-Muslims under Islamic rule—whether Jews or Christians, whether in Saudi Arabia or in Sudan. Dhimmitude began in 628 CE when Mohammed and his forces conquered the Jewish oasis at Khaybar. They massacred many of the Jews and forced the rest to accept a pact ("Dhimma") which rendered them inferiror to their Muslim conquerors. Over the centuries, the ideology of Dhimmitude expanded into a formal system of religious apartheid.

Institutionalized apartheid. In Shari’a law, there are official discriminations against the Dhimmi, such as the poll-tax or jizya.

No legal rights. Jews may not testify in court against a Muslim and have no legal right to dispute or challenge anything done to them by Muslims. There is no such thing as a Muslim raping a Jewish woman; there is no such thing as a Muslim murdering a Jew (at most, it can be manslaughter). In contrast, a Jew who strikes a Muslim is killed.

Humiliation and vulnerability. Jews and Christians had to walk around with badges or veils identifying them as Jews or Christians. The yellow star that Jews had wear in Nazi Germany did not originate in Europe. It was borrowed from the Muslim world where it was part of the apartheid system of Dhimmitude.

Conditional protection. The protection of the Dhimmi is withdrawn if the Dhimmi rebels against Islamic law, gives allegiance to non-Muslim power (such as Israel), refuses to pay the poll-tax, entices a Muslim from his faith, or harms a Muslim or his property. If the protection is lifted, jihad resumes. For example, Islamists in Egypt who pillage and kill the Copts do so because they no longer pay their poll-tax and therefore are no longer protected
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de lijst van de israelische dienstweigeraars die niet langer willen deelnemen aan de palestijnse genocide in de bezette gebieden 8)

1 Avner Inbar Staff Sergeant Engineering
2 Ofir Cohen Staff Sergeant Infantry
3 Itzik Hulday Staff Sergeant Engineering
4 Itai Swirski Lieutenant Paratroopers
5 Amir Engel Staff Sergeant Artillery
6 Amir Samuel Staff Sergeant Paratroopers
7 Amnon Kafri Sergeant First Class Artillery
8 Assaf Oron Sergeant First Class Infantry
9 Ariel Shatil Sergeant First Class Artillery
10 Arik Diamant Staff Sergeant Paratroopers
11 Gil Alexandrovitz Staff Sergeant Artillery
12 Guy Grosman Lieutenant Paratroopers
13 Gyora Alexandron Staff Sergeant Paratroopers
14 Gil Nemesh Staff Sergeant Engineering
15 David Zonshein Lieutenant Paratroopers
16 Dolev Tokatly Staff Sergeant Army Intelligence
17 Dan Tamir Captain Paratroopers
18 Danny Vos Sergeant First Class Navy
19 Danny Mamlok Staff Sergeant Artillery
20 Danny Markovitz Staff Sergeant Engineering
21 Haim Wies Captain Armored Corps
22 Tal Ben Amar Lieutenant Infantry
23 Yair Bustan Lieutenant Navy
24 Yigal Broner Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
25 Yehoda Shalem Staff Sergeant Infantry
26 Yoav Katz First Sergeant Armored Corps
27 Johnathan Katz Staff Sergeant Infantry
28 Yaniv Itzkovitz Lieutenant Paratroopers
29 Ishai Lerman Staff Sergeant Engineering
30 Ishai Rozen Tzvi Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
31 Ishai Sagi Lieutenant Artillery
32 Naor Ben Yehoyada Captain Navy
33 Navot Morag Staff Sergeant Paratroopers
34 Noam Livne Lieutenant Engineering
35 Nir Evron Lieutenant Paratroopers
36 Noam Wiener Lieutenant Infantry
37 Nethanel Elzas Staff Sergeant Infantry
38 Adi Martzuk Staff Sergeant Air Force AA
39 Ofer Shor Captain Infantry
40 Amit Bar Tzedek Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
41 Amit Gal Sergeant First Class Paratroopers
42 Amit Mashiah Staff Sergeant Artillery
43 Ram Alpya Staff Sergeant Infantry
44 Rami Kaplan Major Armored Corps
45 Shoki Shade Staff Sergeant Paratroopers
46 Shahar Dolev Lieutenant Air Force
47 Shai Yakir Staff Sergeant Infantry
48 Shay Tzoker Sergeant First Class Navy
49 Shamai Leibovitz Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
50 Itai Haviv Captain Artillery
51 Amir Efrat Lieutenant Air Force
52 Jonathan Eshpar Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
53 Shahar Smooha Sergeant Armored Corps
54 Uri Tal Staff Sergeant Infantry
55 Ron GerLitz Captain Navy
56 Nir Lahav Staff Sergeant Paratroopers
57 Tal Avgar Staff Sergeant Air Force AA
58 Udi Elifants Lieutenant Artillery
59 Marcelo Svirsky Corporal Engineering
60 Chen Alon Major Armored Corps
61 Ori Rot-Levi Captain Navy
62 Bar Heffetz Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
63 Noam Ziv Major Paratroopers
64 Nir Gov Warrant Officer Other
65 Barak Adorian Sergeant First Class Paratroopers
66 Yossi Veissid Sergeant First Class Infantry
67 Muli Linder Lieutenant Medicine Corps
68 Amir Shahal Captain Infantry
69 dishon bilgory Staff Sergeant Navy
70 Amir Ziv Sergeant First Class Paratroopers
71 Boaz Zussman Major Armored Corps
72 Itai Eisinger Staff Sergeant Artillery
73 Yuval Ron Staff Sergeant Army Intelligence
74 Uzi Dror Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
75 Liron Prestelnik Captain Armored Corps
76 Gilad Svirski Staff Sergeant Artillery
77 Ori Finkelman Lieutenant Artillery
78 Moshe Sivan Captain Armored Corps
79 Barak Atzmon Staff Sergeant Artillery
80 Akiva Leibowitz Captain Artillery
81 Arad Hakim Staff Sergeant Infantry
82 Uri Dotan Staff Sergeant Infantry
83 Dan Goldenblatt Staff Sergeant Paratroopers
84 Timor Israeli Lieutenant Armored Corps
85 Erez Zverling Staff Sergeant Paratroopers
86 Amit Peer Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
87 Leor Kroch Staff Sergeant Infantry
88 Noam Sagi Captain Navy
89 Hanoch Frankovits Lieutenant Armored Corps
90 Hed Bar-Nissan Captain Paratroopers
91 Samuel Miller Staff Sergeant Other
92 Trevor Galor Staff Sergeant Paratroopers
93 Avi Blum First Sergeant Paratroopers
94 Omri Klainberger Staff Sergeant Artillery
95 Amir Rosenfeld Captain Air Force AA
96 Uri AviHay Staff Sergeant Artillery
97 Shay Peled Sergeant Air Force AA
98 Gabi Bokvza Staff Sergeant Paratroopers
99 Roey Vollman Lieutenant Artillery
100 Ram Efrat Staff Sergeant Infantry
101 Clark Hoover Corporal Armored Corps
102 Gilad Elazar Sergeant First Class Infantry
103 Guy Keshet Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
104 Yotam Cohen Sergeant Infantry
105 Ofer Teler Sergeant Other
106 Ronen Edelman Staff Sergeant Army Intelligence
107 Yoram Talmon Captain Medicine Corps
108 Shimon El-Ami Major Other
109 Tal Shamir Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
110 Doron Tzabari Lieutenant Medicine Corps
111 Aviad Roitgrund Staff Sergeant Engineering
112 Oded chakim Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
113 Youval Tamari Captain Air Force
114 Shuli Weis Staff Sergeant Medicine Corps
115 Itai Berger Major Armored Corps
116 Zohar Mor Lieutenant Navy
117 Michael Weksler Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
118 Shahar Tzur Captain Navy
119 Eliav Saharovitch Staff Sergeant Infantry
120 Liron Eliasov Captain Army Intelligence
121 Yaniv Reingwertz Staff Sergeant Engineering
122 Shahar Almagor Captain Navy
123 Alon Barnea Staff Sergeant Engineering
124 Harel Arzi Staff Sergeant Medicine Corps
125 Omer Simha Staff Sergeant Infantry
126 Dadi Lavie Staff Sergeant Paratroopers
127 Asaf Levnon Lieutenant Armored Corps
128 Asaf Guy Staff Sergeant Navy
129 Yaron Hoffman Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
130 Maor Parsai Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
131 Jeremy Swimer Private first class Air Force
132 Yair Morag Staff Sergeant Infantry
133 Gary Sussman Sergeant Infantry
134 Isio Rosental Private Air Force
135 Dani Filc Captain Armored Corps
136 Omry Yeshurun Lieutenant Armored Corps
137 Yigal Onik Sergeant First Class Engineering
138 Ronen Katz Sergeant First Class Armored Corps
139 Doron Mutai Lieutenant Engineering
140 Tal Belo Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
141 yossi revivo Staff Sergeant Infantry
142 Lior Kay Corporal Other
143 gadi doron Sergeant First Class Paratroopers
144 Nadav Shlomot Staff Sergeant Paratroopers
145 yuval agassi Lieutenant Paratroopers
146 yuval netzer Sergeant First Class Armored Corps
147 Amichai Katz Staff Sergeant Infantry
148 Omri Friedman Staff Sergeant Infantry
149 Dror Lutzati Sergeant First Class Engineering
150 Eilon Oron Sergeant First Class Engineering
151 Dani Broitman Staff Sergeant Infantry
152 Yossi Schellas Captain Armored Corps
153 Yariv Mizrahi Captain Armored Corps
154 Assaf Bervald Staff Sergeant Infantry
155 Daniel Lewenhoff Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
156 Avi Shnior Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
157 Amir Shlomian Sergeant Medicine Corps
158 Yariv Shavit Sergeant Armored Corps
159 Alon Arbel Lieutenant Infantry
160 Amit Grossman Staff Sergeant Air Force
161 Omer Karp Major Armored Corps
162 Nir Rosen Staff Sergeant Other
163 Shlomi Segal Staff Sergeant Infantry
164 Asaf Barashi Staff Sergeant Paratroopers
165 Gil Shalit Sergeant Paratroopers
166 Uri Eshhar Lieutenant Armored Corps
167 Asaf Shilo Lieutenant Engineering
168 Yuval Andorn Staff Sergeant Artillery
169 Nik John Corporal Engineering
170 Gome Levin Staff Sergeant Other
171 Ronnen Ben - Arie Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
172 Adi Naar Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
173 Nir Rehav Staff Sergeant Artillery
174 Roi Barak Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
175 Uri Fine Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
176 Ohad Matalon Sergeant First Class Armored Corps
177 Doron Segev Staff Sergeant Army Intelligence
178 Yakov Gabay Staff Sergeant Engineering
179 Michael Sfard Sergeant Medicine Corps
180 Ori Choshen Captain Air Force
181 Tamir Sorek Sergeant First Class Army Intelligence
182 Arik Peretz Staff Sergeant Infantry
183 Amnon Vidan Major Navy
184 Aner Sella Staff Sergeant Artillery
185 Rahav Magen Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
186 Itamar Schweika Captain Army Intelligence
187 Noam Leshem Staff Sergeant Navy
188 Dani Kish Lieutenant Armored Corps
189 Avner Kohavi Sergeant First Class Infantry
190 Platon Melinovski Corporal Armored Corps
191 Assaf Chemets Lieutenant Paratroopers
192 Kim Yuval Staff Sergeant Artillery
193 Eran Laish Staff Sergeant Engineering
194 Udi Sommer Staff Sergeant Air Force
195 Eyal Wurgaft Staff Sergeant Paratroopers
196 Ori Saley Lieutenant Armored Corps
197 Asa Meron Staff Sergeant Artillery
198 Asaf Openheimer Staff Sergeant Engineering
199 Eyal Ben-Basat Staff Sergeant Engineering
200 Amiram Raber Captain Armored Corps
201 Ofer Braver Lieutenant Infantry
202 Ori Lev Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
203 Guy Geltner Staff Sergeant Artillery
204 Ittai Weinryb Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
205 Ariel Tartakovsky Staff Sergeant Artillery
206 Yossi Landesman Staff Sergeant Paratroopers
207 Yaniv Dolev Sergeant Infantry
208 Idan Caspari Sergeant First Class Infantry
209 Itay Rotem Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
210 Aharon Shem-Tov Staff Sergeant Other
211 Oren Entin Corporal Infantry
212 Adi Raveh Staff Sergeant Other
213 Yoav Ben Yaakov Lieutenant Infantry
214 Nir Siani Staff Sergeant Infantry
215 Noam Sheizaf Lieutenant Infantry
216 Shahak Yariv Lieutenant Medicine Corps
217 Nimrod Shilo Staff Sergeant Artillery
218 Noam Geffen Sergeant First Class Artillery
219 Naor Urian Lieutenant Paratroopers
220 Yiftah Ron Sergeant First Class Paratroopers
221 Asher Albo Staff Sergeant Paratroopers
222 dudu rotman Lieutenant Other
223 Mike Raphaeli Sergeant Artillery
224 Aviv Gleichman Staff Sergeant Air Force
225 Itamar Haber Staff Sergeant Medicine Corps
226 Oren Levi Sergeant Medicine Corps
227 Amit Brock Staff Sergeant Infantry
228 David Enoch Lieutenant Armored Corps
229 Amit Kaufman Sergeant First Class Paratroopers
230 Nitzan Shany Lieutenant Armored Corps
231 Izik Gargir Lieutenant Other
232 Amir Kedan Staff Sergeant Artillery
233 Avi Mayorek Lieutenant Artillery
234 Liraz Rimon Staff Sergeant Infantry
235 Boaz Tubul Staff Sergeant Paratroopers
236 Amir Locker Biletzki Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
237 Omer Cohen Lieutenant Artillery
238 Yaniv Tal Lieutenant Air Force AA
239 Dudy Tzfati Staff Sergeant Navy
240 Noam Frankfurter Staff Sergeant Artillery
241 Yashiv Cohen Sergeant Armored Corps
242 Daniel Yaakobovitch Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
243 Ofer Shafrir Staff Sergeant Infantry
244 Yotam Tzafrir Major Infantry
245 Liron Pinchover Staff Sergeant Infantry
246 Dan Shahaf Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
247 Gideon Davidson Staff Sergeant Engineering
248 Nimrod Baharav Captain Armored Corps
249 Amir Polack Staff Sergeant Paratroopers
250 Rani Einav Lieutenant Army Intelligence
251 Gilad Heiman Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
252 Amit Ben-Natan Sergeant First Class Armored Corps
253 Sagi Bakshi Lieutenant Artillery
254 Avner Shiftan Major Medicine Corps
255 Uri Niv Staff Sergeant Paratroopers
256 Ami Kotler Sergeant First Class Infantry
257 David Beeri Staff Sergeant Other
258 Yoav Lahan Staff Sergeant Infantry
259 Ezra Peres Staff Sergeant Infantry
260 Gomeh Shabtai Staff Sergeant Artillery
261 Amir Segal Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
262 Netanel Yefet Staff Sergeant Paratroopers
263 Assaf Ben-David Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
264 Yaron Beeri Staff Sergeant Infantry
265 Gilad Kfir-Yron Captain Air Force
266 Idan Eisner Staff Sergeant Engineering
267 Itai Horowitz Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
268 Sharon Shmila Lieutenant Infantry
269 Ofer Beit Halachmi Major Medicine Corps
270 Israel (Isri) Halperin Staff Sergeant Paratroopers
271 Avi Bigelman Lieutenant Medicine Corps
272 Oded Bin-Nun Staff Sergeant Paratroopers
273 Alon Mordechovitch Sergeant First Class Paratroopers
274 Oren Harman Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
275 Yuval Gat Sergeant First Class Armored Corps
276 Jay Rosenberg Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
277 Shay Misch Lieutenant Artillery
278 Ohad Nachtomy Staff Sergeant Infantry
279 Avriel Bar-Levav Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
280 Sela Ofer Sergeant First Class Infantry
281 Yariv Mohar Staff Sergeant Engineering
282 Roy Sabat Sergeant First Class Artillery
283 Nimrod Hefetz Major Other
284 Ofer Nur Staff Sergeant Other
285 Gil Bronstein Staff Sergeant Infantry
286 Yoav Arzi Staff Sergeant Air Force
287 Guy Shalev Staff Sergeant Air Force
288 Ronen Cohen Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
289 Yuval Lotem Lieutenant Infantry
290 Dror Moran Sergeant Other
291 Erez Tzfadia Staff Sergeant Infantry
292 Yair Shiloah Staff Sergeant Infantry
293 Yonatan Ariel Staff Sergeant Infantry
294 Oren Melamed Staff Sergeant Artillery
295 Ehud Shem-Tov Sergeant First Class Armored Corps
296 Avner Efendowicz Captain Armored Corps
297 Ran Ron Sergeant First Class Artillery
298 Gil Krivitzki Staff Sergeant Other
299 Nir Dash Lieutenant Air Force
300 Yair Yephet Sergeant Other
301 Jonathan Levi Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
302 David Perlman Corporal Other
303 Ohad Yogev Lieutenant Infantry
304 Yoval Yavne Staff Sergeant Infantry
305 Gilad Reshef Staff Sergeant Infantry
306 Michael Azulai Staff Sergeant Border Police
307 Noam Nadir Staff Sergeant Infantry
308 Shachar Levy Sergeant First Class Paratroopers
309 Itai Kahn Lieutenant Armored Corps
310 Eran Torbiner Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
311 Tal Ben-David Staff Sergeant Engineering
312 Tal Feldman Staff Sergeant Engineering
313 Navot Galpaz Staff Sergeant Infantry
314 Pawel Mariasin Private Other
315 Yair Neve Oz Sergeant First Class Armored Corps
316 Ishay Hinkis Staff Sergeant Air Force
317 Dan Hobel Corporal Other
318 Ido Bruno Staff Sergeant Infantry
319 Beni Issembert Corporal Armored Corps
320 Elon Portugaly Staff Sergeant Infantry
321 Matan Cohen Sergeant First Class Paratroopers
322 Stav Adivi Major Other
323 Tal Keler Sergeant Other
324 Roni Jortner Lieutenant Other
325 Adi Eilat Captain Armored Corps
326 Meir Shamay Staff Sergeant Artillery
327 Shaun Lacob Sergeant Infantry
328 Rotem Max Sergeant Infantry
329 Uri Hirshfeld Captain Artillery
330 Niv Keidar Staff Sergeant Infantry
331 Moshe Ingel Sergeant First Class Infantry
332 Daniel Reisel Sergeant Infantry
333 Shmulik Lederman Staff Sergeant Infantry
334 Eitan Lieberman Corporal Other
335 Alon Ben Ezer Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
336 Piki Ish-Shalom Major Navy
337 Yiftach shiloni Lieutenant Army Intelligence
338 Elad Lahav Staff Sergeant Infantry
339 Alon Meir Staff Sergeant Infantry
340 Ofir Bedossa Sergeant First Class Armored Corps
341 Asi Grinshtein Staff Sergeant Infantry
342 Ishai Mor Staff Sergeant Paratroopers
343 Amir Benbaji Staff Sergeant Other
344 Ofer Gal Lieutenant Other
345 Or Gerlitz Staff Sergeant Other
346 Daniel Nitzan Sergeant First Class Medicine Corps
347 Michael Alexander Sergeant Other
348 Amiyaal Ilany Lieutenant Paratroopers
349 Eytan Katsav Staff Sergeant Other
350 Yoav Caspi Lieutenant Armored Corps
351 Jonathan Ganzi Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
352 Eyal Nir Lieutenant Other
353 Shani Kaminer Lieutenant Infantry
354 Avshalom Raviv Lieutenant Army Intelligence
355 Nadav Lapid Staff Sergeant Army Intelligence
356 Shahar Larry Lieutenant Air Force
357 Roni Reingold Captain Other
358 Eyal Zaid Sergeant First Class Other
359 Alexander bogomolny Corporal Other
360 Eytan Biderman Captain Other
361 Ran Bracha Captain Infantry
362 Nir Bracha Staff Sergeant Artillery
363 Peleg Rachman Sergeant Armored Corps
364 Danny Yavorski Staff Sergeant Infantry
365 Mordechai Lidar Staff Sergeant Navy
366 Avner Goldhagen Captain Air Force
367 Avishai Mor Staff Sergeant Other
368 Daniel Goldstein Staff Sergeant Infantry
369 Raanan Choresh Sergeant First Class Infantry
370 Ofri Ilany Staff Sergeant Air Force AA
371 Ari Boneh Staff Sergeant Infantry
372 Oded Tsipori Sergeant Medicine Corps
373 Avner Niv Sergeant First Class Other
374 Oded Korati Staff Sergeant Other
375 Ran Carmeli Staff Sergeant Other
376 Uri Livneh Staff Sergeant Artillery
377 Eldad Shem-Tov Staff Sergeant Medicine Corps
378 Moshe Arenstein Captain Army Intelligence
379 Nahum Goldberg Sergeant Engineering
380 Omer Peled Staff Sergeant Paratroopers
381 Yotam Bezalel Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
382 Lior Kravitz Captain Army Intelligence
383 Daniel Kaftori Major Other
384 Ori Tokker Mimon Lieutenant Medicine Corps
385 Rami Regavim Sergeant First Class Other
386 Hagai Nakhtomi Sergeant First Class Armored Corps
387 Ofer Rog Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
388 Jonatan Karni Staff Sergeant Paratroopers
389 Aviel Luz Staff Sergeant Other
390 Omry Zalmona Staff Sergeant Engineering
391 Yossi Davidovtch Staff Sergeant Infantry
392 Chen Zeira Staff Sergeant Infantry
393 Gabriel Ben-Ami Major Other
394 Tomer Yaffe Sergeant Medicine Corps
395 Oded Soffair Staff Sergeant Air Force AA
396 Yuval Otzar Sergeant Paratroopers
397 Eitan Lerner Captain Medicine Corps
398 Moshik Tamkin Sergeant Other
399 Amir Terkel Staff Sergeant Other
400 Gabriel Salgado Staff Sergeant Infantry
401 Scott Uri Private first class Infantry
402 Yoav Cohen Corporal Other
403 Amos Shazar Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
404 Avner Barkay Sergeant Infantry
405 Dan Yakir Staff Sergeant Other
406 Doron Sheinman Staff Sergeant Infantry
407 Idan Ashur Sergeant First Class Engineering
408 Uri Dagan Corporal Artillery
409 Dan Bedescu Staff Sergeant Infantry
410 Dani Schrire Lieutenant Air Force AA
411 Elad Zeev Staff Sergeant Artillery
412 Adam Gaynor Corporal Infantry
413 Moran Koren Staff Sergeant Other
414 Oren Levy Sergeant Armored Corps
415 Gil Valabrega Staff Sergeant Infantry
416 Yair Goldfarb Lieutenant Air Force
417 Ran Tene Staff Sergeant Other
418 Amnon Sagiv Captain Army Intelligence
419 Daniel Lantsberg Lieutenant Army Intelligence
420 Eldad Porat Captain Armored Corps
421 Omer Shatz Staff Sergeant Air Force
422 Oren Hershko Sergeant First Class Engineering
423 Nir Konforti Staff Sergeant Artillery
424 Ron Fogel Lieutenant Infantry
425 Yair Kafri Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
426 Oren Yakobovich Lieutenant Other
427 Miki Grinfeld Staff Sergeant Medicine Corps
428 Ilya Shifrin Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
429 Guy Elchanan Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
430 Noam Geva Sergeant Infantry
431 Avi Hengel Lieutenant Other
432 Eyal Fisher Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
433 Kuti Rot Staff Sergeant Infantry
434 Yair Matiash Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
435 Haim Yulzari Staff Sergeant Air Force AA
436 Micha Peri Staff Sergeant Infantry
437 Yuval Ben Ari Sergeant First Class Air Force
438 Elad Orian Staff Sergeant Army Intelligence
439 Asaf Barness Staff Sergeant Other
440 Michael Gedalyovich Captain Army Intelligence
441 Boaz Helfman Captain Infantry
442 Claudio Silberman Sergeant First Class Armored Corps
443 Ido Blum Lieutenant Other
444 Gilad Silberberg Major Navy
445 Erad Omer Lieutenant Air Force AA
446 Yochai Shoshani Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
447 Shai Meiri Sergeant First Class Navy
448 Guy Gavron Lieutenant Other
449 Eli Mor-Yosef Lieutenant Other
450 Adi Sayag Staff Sergeant Artillery
451 Boaz Katz Corporal Other
452 Assaf Alberstain Lieutenant Infantry
453 Elad Yaari Sergeant First Class Air Force
454 Gadi Sprukt Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
455 Udi Or Lieutenant Infantry
456 Arnon Kehat Sergeant Medicine Corps
457 Ofer Amsalem Staff Sergeant Artillery
458 Rami Grinberg Staff Sergeant Paratroopers
459 Tomer Russo Staff Sergeant Other
460 Yair Avigdor Major Artillery
461 Or Shlomi Private first class Artillery
462 Nimrod Shaked Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
463 Oren Yad-Shalom Sergeant First Class Armored Corps
464 Oded Orr Sergeant First Class Navy
465 Yitzhak Hen Captain Paratroopers
466 Ittai Renan Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
467 Yonatan Dominitz First Sergeant Paratroopers
468 Elik Elhanan Staff Sergeant Paratroopers
469 Erez Galil Staff Sergeant Navy
470 Gilad Cohen Sergeant First Class Paratroopers
471 Dan Zeltzer Lieutenant Air Force AA
472 Eitan Meiri Major Other
473 Ami Rayne Lieutenant Air Force
474 Rotem Erez Sergeant First Class Navy
475 Dan Levinsohn Captain Other
476 Shaham Keneth Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
477 Imri Matalon Staff Sergeant Infantry
478 Asaf Sade Lieutenant Armored Corps
479 Eran Amodai Sergeant First Class Armored Corps
480 Ronen Shnayderman Staff Sergeant Artillery
481 Tzahi Slonim Lieutenant Infantry
482 Yuval Dafni Staff Sergeant Engineering
483 Yoni Kozlovski Staff Sergeant Infantry
484 Shacham Ramach Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
485 Michael Yoel Staff Sergeant Infantry
486 Zohar Shapira Staff Sergeant Infantry
487 Elad Tishler Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
488 Eyal Golan Lieutenant Army Intelligence
489 Matan Zisling Sergeant Other
490 Yonatan Fuher Sergeant Other
491 Illai Zeevi Staff Sergeant Infantry
492 Yoav Lewy Staff Sergeant Artillery
493 Ronny Golan Lieutenant Army Intelligence
494 Jacob ShemTov Staff Sergeant Other
495 Noam Hofsstater Captain Air Force AA
496 Amir Gotlib Staff Sergeant Army Intelligence
497 Noam Hupert Sergeant Infantry
498 David Carmel Sergeant Air Force
499 Nickolay Sosenko Staff Sergeant Other
500 Eshel Herzog Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
501 Ofer Kalisky Lieutenant Army Intelligence
502 Yoav Guez Staff Sergeant Medicine Corps
503 David Rosenberg Sergeant Medicine Corps
504 Meir Ganon Sergeant First Class Infantry
505 Roi Amaler Staff Sergeant Air Force
506 Asaf Wexler Lieutenant Army Intelligence
507 Eyal Weizman Staff Sergeant Infantry
508 Uzi Rubinstein Sergeant Engineering
509 Tomer Greener Sergeant Medicine Corps
510 Danny Ayzer Staff Sergeant Other
511 Nadav Har Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
512 Gal Kali Staff Sergeant Paratroopers
513 Chaim Feldman Staff Sergeant Infantry
514 Yariv Salit Staff Sergeant Medicine Corps
515 Ido Tennenbaum Staff Sergeant Other
516 Itzik Shabat Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
517 Arik Gutler-Ofir Staff Sergeant Infantry
518 Amikam Beluko Lieutenant Other
519 Dan Tsahor Staff Sergeant Infantry
520 Zohar Milchgrub Staff Sergeant Infantry
521 Ilai Goshen Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
522 Oren Geva Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
523 Eli Alon Staff Sergeant Infantry
524 Shahar Halinovsky Staff Sergeant Other
525 Lior Yavne Staff Sergeant Other
526 Ilan Feldman Sergeant First Class Infantry
527 Ahikam Dor Staff Sergeant Infantry
528 Ori Yassur Captain Air Force AA
529 Asi Sorek Lieutenant Paratroopers
530 Omer Cohen Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
531 Ido Porat Staff Sergeant Engineering
532 Ronen Berlovich Staff Sergeant Paratroopers
533 Eyal Raz Sergeant Paratroopers
534 Dror Etzion Lieutenant Army Intelligence
535 Hadar Tirosh Staff Sergeant Infantry
536 Lior Gur Staff Sergeant Infantry
537 Ronen Tzur Staff Sergeant Air Force
538 Gil Yasur Staff Sergeant Infantry
539 Alon Andorn Lieutenant Artillery
540 Eitan Diamond Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
541 Ami Livne Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
542 Hagai Guterman Staff Sergeant Infantry
543 Yuval Ben-Ozer Sergeant First Class Paratroopers
544 Ido Roll Captain Air Force
545 Gilad Goldfarb Lieutenant Artillery
546 Udi Nir Private first class Artillery
547 Doron Nachum Sergeant Other
548 Yossi Gilad Sergeant Infantry
549 Shai Efrati Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
550 Roy Talmon Staff Sergeant Infantry
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Citaat:
Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door k9
Nee je hoopt dat gewoon, de toekomst voor israel ziet er goed uit, eens hun hek compleet is zullen de meeste aanslagen wegvallen, minder soldaten nodig, economisch herstel . En wie weet als de palestijnen ooit genoeg krijgen van elkaar uit te moorden kan er misschien nog eens mee gesproken worden.
Wat velen niet weten is deze uitspraak van de Arabische liga in 1948 toen ze Israel aanvielen:
Citaat:
Le but de l'invasion fut défini par le Secrétaire général de la Ligue arabe du temps, Azzam Pacha, en ces termes :

« Cette guerre sera une guerre d'extermination et de massacre. On en parlera comme des massacres mongols et des Croisades ». BBC, 15 mai 1948.
en dan klagen ze dat er in 1948 arabische vluchtelingen waren, zogezegd allen door Israeliers verdreven. Dit is zo ongeveer hetzelfde als de laatste oproep van Al Qaida aan alle islamieten om Europa te verlaten. Is het dan een wonder dat de lokale arabieren gingen vluchten. Neen, weer geen vuiltje aan de lucht...
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vlug die tekst weg !!!
post ik toch gewoon even opnieuw

We, reserve combat officers and soldiers of the Israel Defense Forces, who were raised upon the principles of Zionism, sacrifice and giving to the people of Israel and to the State of Israel, who have always served in the front lines, and who were the first to carry out any mission, light or heavy, in order to protect the State of Israel and strengthen it.
We, combat officers and soldiers who have served the State of Israel for long weeks every year, in spite of the dear cost to our personal lives, have been on reserve duty all over the Occupied Territories, and were issued commands and directives that had nothing to do with the security of our country, and that had the sole purpose of perpetuating our control over the Palestinian people. We, whose eyes have seen the bloody toll this Occupation exacts from both sides.
We, who sensed how the commands issued to us in the Territories, destroy all the values we had absorbed while growing up in this country.
We, who understand now that the price of Occupation is the loss of IDF’s human character and the corruption of the entire Israeli society.
We, who know that the Territories are not Israel, and that all settlements are bound to be evacuated in the end
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We hereby declare that we shall not continue to fight this War of the Settlements.
We shall not continue to fight beyond the 1967 borders in order to [size=6]dominate, expel, starve and humiliate an entire people.[/size]
We hereby declare that we shall continue serving in the Israel Defense Forces in any mission that serves Israel’s defense.
The missions of occupation and oppression do not serve this purpose – and we shall take no part in them.

8) 8)
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de lijst van de israelische dienstweigeraars die niet langer willen deelnemen aan de palestijnse genocide in de bezette gebieden 8)

1 Avner Inbar Staff Sergeant Engineering
2 Ofir Cohen Staff Sergeant Infantry
3 Itzik Hulday Staff Sergeant Engineering
4 Itai Swirski Lieutenant Paratroopers
5 Amir Engel Staff Sergeant Artillery
6 Amir Samuel Staff Sergeant Paratroopers
7 Amnon Kafri Sergeant First Class Artillery
8 Assaf Oron Sergeant First Class Infantry
9 Ariel Shatil Sergeant First Class Artillery
10 Arik Diamant Staff Sergeant Paratroopers
11 Gil Alexandrovitz Staff Sergeant Artillery
12 Guy Grosman Lieutenant Paratroopers
13 Gyora Alexandron Staff Sergeant Paratroopers
14 Gil Nemesh Staff Sergeant Engineering
15 David Zonshein Lieutenant Paratroopers
16 Dolev Tokatly Staff Sergeant Army Intelligence
17 Dan Tamir Captain Paratroopers
18 Danny Vos Sergeant First Class Navy
19 Danny Mamlok Staff Sergeant Artillery
20 Danny Markovitz Staff Sergeant Engineering
21 Haim Wies Captain Armored Corps
22 Tal Ben Amar Lieutenant Infantry
23 Yair Bustan Lieutenant Navy
24 Yigal Broner Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
25 Yehoda Shalem Staff Sergeant Infantry
26 Yoav Katz First Sergeant Armored Corps
27 Johnathan Katz Staff Sergeant Infantry
28 Yaniv Itzkovitz Lieutenant Paratroopers
29 Ishai Lerman Staff Sergeant Engineering
30 Ishai Rozen Tzvi Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
31 Ishai Sagi Lieutenant Artillery
32 Naor Ben Yehoyada Captain Navy
33 Navot Morag Staff Sergeant Paratroopers
34 Noam Livne Lieutenant Engineering
35 Nir Evron Lieutenant Paratroopers
36 Noam Wiener Lieutenant Infantry
37 Nethanel Elzas Staff Sergeant Infantry
38 Adi Martzuk Staff Sergeant Air Force AA
39 Ofer Shor Captain Infantry
40 Amit Bar Tzedek Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
41 Amit Gal Sergeant First Class Paratroopers
42 Amit Mashiah Staff Sergeant Artillery
43 Ram Alpya Staff Sergeant Infantry
44 Rami Kaplan Major Armored Corps
45 Shoki Shade Staff Sergeant Paratroopers
46 Shahar Dolev Lieutenant Air Force
47 Shai Yakir Staff Sergeant Infantry
48 Shay Tzoker Sergeant First Class Navy
49 Shamai Leibovitz Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
50 Itai Haviv Captain Artillery
51 Amir Efrat Lieutenant Air Force
52 Jonathan Eshpar Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
53 Shahar Smooha Sergeant Armored Corps
54 Uri Tal Staff Sergeant Infantry
55 Ron GerLitz Captain Navy
56 Nir Lahav Staff Sergeant Paratroopers
57 Tal Avgar Staff Sergeant Air Force AA
58 Udi Elifants Lieutenant Artillery
59 Marcelo Svirsky Corporal Engineering
60 Chen Alon Major Armored Corps
61 Ori Rot-Levi Captain Navy
62 Bar Heffetz Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
63 Noam Ziv Major Paratroopers
64 Nir Gov Warrant Officer Other
65 Barak Adorian Sergeant First Class Paratroopers
66 Yossi Veissid Sergeant First Class Infantry
67 Muli Linder Lieutenant Medicine Corps
68 Amir Shahal Captain Infantry
69 dishon bilgory Staff Sergeant Navy
70 Amir Ziv Sergeant First Class Paratroopers
71 Boaz Zussman Major Armored Corps
72 Itai Eisinger Staff Sergeant Artillery
73 Yuval Ron Staff Sergeant Army Intelligence
74 Uzi Dror Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
75 Liron Prestelnik Captain Armored Corps
76 Gilad Svirski Staff Sergeant Artillery
77 Ori Finkelman Lieutenant Artillery
78 Moshe Sivan Captain Armored Corps
79 Barak Atzmon Staff Sergeant Artillery
80 Akiva Leibowitz Captain Artillery
81 Arad Hakim Staff Sergeant Infantry
82 Uri Dotan Staff Sergeant Infantry
83 Dan Goldenblatt Staff Sergeant Paratroopers
84 Timor Israeli Lieutenant Armored Corps
85 Erez Zverling Staff Sergeant Paratroopers
86 Amit Peer Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
87 Leor Kroch Staff Sergeant Infantry
88 Noam Sagi Captain Navy
89 Hanoch Frankovits Lieutenant Armored Corps
90 Hed Bar-Nissan Captain Paratroopers
91 Samuel Miller Staff Sergeant Other
92 Trevor Galor Staff Sergeant Paratroopers
93 Avi Blum First Sergeant Paratroopers
94 Omri Klainberger Staff Sergeant Artillery
95 Amir Rosenfeld Captain Air Force AA
96 Uri AviHay Staff Sergeant Artillery
97 Shay Peled Sergeant Air Force AA
98 Gabi Bokvza Staff Sergeant Paratroopers
99 Roey Vollman Lieutenant Artillery
100 Ram Efrat Staff Sergeant Infantry
101 Clark Hoover Corporal Armored Corps
102 Gilad Elazar Sergeant First Class Infantry
103 Guy Keshet Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
104 Yotam Cohen Sergeant Infantry
105 Ofer Teler Sergeant Other
106 Ronen Edelman Staff Sergeant Army Intelligence
107 Yoram Talmon Captain Medicine Corps
108 Shimon El-Ami Major Other
109 Tal Shamir Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
110 Doron Tzabari Lieutenant Medicine Corps
111 Aviad Roitgrund Staff Sergeant Engineering
112 Oded chakim Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
113 Youval Tamari Captain Air Force
114 Shuli Weis Staff Sergeant Medicine Corps
115 Itai Berger Major Armored Corps
116 Zohar Mor Lieutenant Navy
117 Michael Weksler Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
118 Shahar Tzur Captain Navy
119 Eliav Saharovitch Staff Sergeant Infantry
120 Liron Eliasov Captain Army Intelligence
121 Yaniv Reingwertz Staff Sergeant Engineering
122 Shahar Almagor Captain Navy
123 Alon Barnea Staff Sergeant Engineering
124 Harel Arzi Staff Sergeant Medicine Corps
125 Omer Simha Staff Sergeant Infantry
126 Dadi Lavie Staff Sergeant Paratroopers
127 Asaf Levnon Lieutenant Armored Corps
128 Asaf Guy Staff Sergeant Navy
129 Yaron Hoffman Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
130 Maor Parsai Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
131 Jeremy Swimer Private first class Air Force
132 Yair Morag Staff Sergeant Infantry
133 Gary Sussman Sergeant Infantry
134 Isio Rosental Private Air Force
135 Dani Filc Captain Armored Corps
136 Omry Yeshurun Lieutenant Armored Corps
137 Yigal Onik Sergeant First Class Engineering
138 Ronen Katz Sergeant First Class Armored Corps
139 Doron Mutai Lieutenant Engineering
140 Tal Belo Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
141 yossi revivo Staff Sergeant Infantry
142 Lior Kay Corporal Other
143 gadi doron Sergeant First Class Paratroopers
144 Nadav Shlomot Staff Sergeant Paratroopers
145 yuval agassi Lieutenant Paratroopers
146 yuval netzer Sergeant First Class Armored Corps
147 Amichai Katz Staff Sergeant Infantry
148 Omri Friedman Staff Sergeant Infantry
149 Dror Lutzati Sergeant First Class Engineering
150 Eilon Oron Sergeant First Class Engineering
151 Dani Broitman Staff Sergeant Infantry
152 Yossi Schellas Captain Armored Corps
153 Yariv Mizrahi Captain Armored Corps
154 Assaf Bervald Staff Sergeant Infantry
155 Daniel Lewenhoff Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
156 Avi Shnior Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
157 Amir Shlomian Sergeant Medicine Corps
158 Yariv Shavit Sergeant Armored Corps
159 Alon Arbel Lieutenant Infantry
160 Amit Grossman Staff Sergeant Air Force
161 Omer Karp Major Armored Corps
162 Nir Rosen Staff Sergeant Other
163 Shlomi Segal Staff Sergeant Infantry
164 Asaf Barashi Staff Sergeant Paratroopers
165 Gil Shalit Sergeant Paratroopers
166 Uri Eshhar Lieutenant Armored Corps
167 Asaf Shilo Lieutenant Engineering
168 Yuval Andorn Staff Sergeant Artillery
169 Nik John Corporal Engineering
170 Gome Levin Staff Sergeant Other
171 Ronnen Ben - Arie Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
172 Adi Naar Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
173 Nir Rehav Staff Sergeant Artillery
174 Roi Barak Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
175 Uri Fine Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
176 Ohad Matalon Sergeant First Class Armored Corps
177 Doron Segev Staff Sergeant Army Intelligence
178 Yakov Gabay Staff Sergeant Engineering
179 Michael Sfard Sergeant Medicine Corps
180 Ori Choshen Captain Air Force
181 Tamir Sorek Sergeant First Class Army Intelligence
182 Arik Peretz Staff Sergeant Infantry
183 Amnon Vidan Major Navy
184 Aner Sella Staff Sergeant Artillery
185 Rahav Magen Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
186 Itamar Schweika Captain Army Intelligence
187 Noam Leshem Staff Sergeant Navy
188 Dani Kish Lieutenant Armored Corps
189 Avner Kohavi Sergeant First Class Infantry
190 Platon Melinovski Corporal Armored Corps
191 Assaf Chemets Lieutenant Paratroopers
192 Kim Yuval Staff Sergeant Artillery
193 Eran Laish Staff Sergeant Engineering
194 Udi Sommer Staff Sergeant Air Force
195 Eyal Wurgaft Staff Sergeant Paratroopers
196 Ori Saley Lieutenant Armored Corps
197 Asa Meron Staff Sergeant Artillery
198 Asaf Openheimer Staff Sergeant Engineering
199 Eyal Ben-Basat Staff Sergeant Engineering
200 Amiram Raber Captain Armored Corps
201 Ofer Braver Lieutenant Infantry
202 Ori Lev Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
203 Guy Geltner Staff Sergeant Artillery
204 Ittai Weinryb Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
205 Ariel Tartakovsky Staff Sergeant Artillery
206 Yossi Landesman Staff Sergeant Paratroopers
207 Yaniv Dolev Sergeant Infantry
208 Idan Caspari Sergeant First Class Infantry
209 Itay Rotem Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
210 Aharon Shem-Tov Staff Sergeant Other
211 Oren Entin Corporal Infantry
212 Adi Raveh Staff Sergeant Other
213 Yoav Ben Yaakov Lieutenant Infantry
214 Nir Siani Staff Sergeant Infantry
215 Noam Sheizaf Lieutenant Infantry
216 Shahak Yariv Lieutenant Medicine Corps
217 Nimrod Shilo Staff Sergeant Artillery
218 Noam Geffen Sergeant First Class Artillery
219 Naor Urian Lieutenant Paratroopers
220 Yiftah Ron Sergeant First Class Paratroopers
221 Asher Albo Staff Sergeant Paratroopers
222 dudu rotman Lieutenant Other
223 Mike Raphaeli Sergeant Artillery
224 Aviv Gleichman Staff Sergeant Air Force
225 Itamar Haber Staff Sergeant Medicine Corps
226 Oren Levi Sergeant Medicine Corps
227 Amit Brock Staff Sergeant Infantry
228 David Enoch Lieutenant Armored Corps
229 Amit Kaufman Sergeant First Class Paratroopers
230 Nitzan Shany Lieutenant Armored Corps
231 Izik Gargir Lieutenant Other
232 Amir Kedan Staff Sergeant Artillery
233 Avi Mayorek Lieutenant Artillery
234 Liraz Rimon Staff Sergeant Infantry
235 Boaz Tubul Staff Sergeant Paratroopers
236 Amir Locker Biletzki Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
237 Omer Cohen Lieutenant Artillery
238 Yaniv Tal Lieutenant Air Force AA
239 Dudy Tzfati Staff Sergeant Navy
240 Noam Frankfurter Staff Sergeant Artillery
241 Yashiv Cohen Sergeant Armored Corps
242 Daniel Yaakobovitch Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
243 Ofer Shafrir Staff Sergeant Infantry
244 Yotam Tzafrir Major Infantry
245 Liron Pinchover Staff Sergeant Infantry
246 Dan Shahaf Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
247 Gideon Davidson Staff Sergeant Engineering
248 Nimrod Baharav Captain Armored Corps
249 Amir Polack Staff Sergeant Paratroopers
250 Rani Einav Lieutenant Army Intelligence
251 Gilad Heiman Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
252 Amit Ben-Natan Sergeant First Class Armored Corps
253 Sagi Bakshi Lieutenant Artillery
254 Avner Shiftan Major Medicine Corps
255 Uri Niv Staff Sergeant Paratroopers
256 Ami Kotler Sergeant First Class Infantry
257 David Beeri Staff Sergeant Other
258 Yoav Lahan Staff Sergeant Infantry
259 Ezra Peres Staff Sergeant Infantry
260 Gomeh Shabtai Staff Sergeant Artillery
261 Amir Segal Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
262 Netanel Yefet Staff Sergeant Paratroopers
263 Assaf Ben-David Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
264 Yaron Beeri Staff Sergeant Infantry
265 Gilad Kfir-Yron Captain Air Force
266 Idan Eisner Staff Sergeant Engineering
267 Itai Horowitz Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
268 Sharon Shmila Lieutenant Infantry
269 Ofer Beit Halachmi Major Medicine Corps
270 Israel (Isri) Halperin Staff Sergeant Paratroopers
271 Avi Bigelman Lieutenant Medicine Corps
272 Oded Bin-Nun Staff Sergeant Paratroopers
273 Alon Mordechovitch Sergeant First Class Paratroopers
274 Oren Harman Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
275 Yuval Gat Sergeant First Class Armored Corps
276 Jay Rosenberg Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
277 Shay Misch Lieutenant Artillery
278 Ohad Nachtomy Staff Sergeant Infantry
279 Avriel Bar-Levav Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
280 Sela Ofer Sergeant First Class Infantry
281 Yariv Mohar Staff Sergeant Engineering
282 Roy Sabat Sergeant First Class Artillery
283 Nimrod Hefetz Major Other
284 Ofer Nur Staff Sergeant Other
285 Gil Bronstein Staff Sergeant Infantry
286 Yoav Arzi Staff Sergeant Air Force
287 Guy Shalev Staff Sergeant Air Force
288 Ronen Cohen Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
289 Yuval Lotem Lieutenant Infantry
290 Dror Moran Sergeant Other
291 Erez Tzfadia Staff Sergeant Infantry
292 Yair Shiloah Staff Sergeant Infantry
293 Yonatan Ariel Staff Sergeant Infantry
294 Oren Melamed Staff Sergeant Artillery
295 Ehud Shem-Tov Sergeant First Class Armored Corps
296 Avner Efendowicz Captain Armored Corps
297 Ran Ron Sergeant First Class Artillery
298 Gil Krivitzki Staff Sergeant Other
299 Nir Dash Lieutenant Air Force
300 Yair Yephet Sergeant Other
301 Jonathan Levi Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
302 David Perlman Corporal Other
303 Ohad Yogev Lieutenant Infantry
304 Yoval Yavne Staff Sergeant Infantry
305 Gilad Reshef Staff Sergeant Infantry
306 Michael Azulai Staff Sergeant Border Police
307 Noam Nadir Staff Sergeant Infantry
308 Shachar Levy Sergeant First Class Paratroopers
309 Itai Kahn Lieutenant Armored Corps
310 Eran Torbiner Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
311 Tal Ben-David Staff Sergeant Engineering
312 Tal Feldman Staff Sergeant Engineering
313 Navot Galpaz Staff Sergeant Infantry
314 Pawel Mariasin Private Other
315 Yair Neve Oz Sergeant First Class Armored Corps
316 Ishay Hinkis Staff Sergeant Air Force
317 Dan Hobel Corporal Other
318 Ido Bruno Staff Sergeant Infantry
319 Beni Issembert Corporal Armored Corps
320 Elon Portugaly Staff Sergeant Infantry
321 Matan Cohen Sergeant First Class Paratroopers
322 Stav Adivi Major Other
323 Tal Keler Sergeant Other
324 Roni Jortner Lieutenant Other
325 Adi Eilat Captain Armored Corps
326 Meir Shamay Staff Sergeant Artillery
327 Shaun Lacob Sergeant Infantry
328 Rotem Max Sergeant Infantry
329 Uri Hirshfeld Captain Artillery
330 Niv Keidar Staff Sergeant Infantry
331 Moshe Ingel Sergeant First Class Infantry
332 Daniel Reisel Sergeant Infantry
333 Shmulik Lederman Staff Sergeant Infantry
334 Eitan Lieberman Corporal Other
335 Alon Ben Ezer Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
336 Piki Ish-Shalom Major Navy
337 Yiftach shiloni Lieutenant Army Intelligence
338 Elad Lahav Staff Sergeant Infantry
339 Alon Meir Staff Sergeant Infantry
340 Ofir Bedossa Sergeant First Class Armored Corps
341 Asi Grinshtein Staff Sergeant Infantry
342 Ishai Mor Staff Sergeant Paratroopers
343 Amir Benbaji Staff Sergeant Other
344 Ofer Gal Lieutenant Other
345 Or Gerlitz Staff Sergeant Other
346 Daniel Nitzan Sergeant First Class Medicine Corps
347 Michael Alexander Sergeant Other
348 Amiyaal Ilany Lieutenant Paratroopers
349 Eytan Katsav Staff Sergeant Other
350 Yoav Caspi Lieutenant Armored Corps
351 Jonathan Ganzi Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
352 Eyal Nir Lieutenant Other
353 Shani Kaminer Lieutenant Infantry
354 Avshalom Raviv Lieutenant Army Intelligence
355 Nadav Lapid Staff Sergeant Army Intelligence
356 Shahar Larry Lieutenant Air Force
357 Roni Reingold Captain Other
358 Eyal Zaid Sergeant First Class Other
359 Alexander bogomolny Corporal Other
360 Eytan Biderman Captain Other
361 Ran Bracha Captain Infantry
362 Nir Bracha Staff Sergeant Artillery
363 Peleg Rachman Sergeant Armored Corps
364 Danny Yavorski Staff Sergeant Infantry
365 Mordechai Lidar Staff Sergeant Navy
366 Avner Goldhagen Captain Air Force
367 Avishai Mor Staff Sergeant Other
368 Daniel Goldstein Staff Sergeant Infantry
369 Raanan Choresh Sergeant First Class Infantry
370 Ofri Ilany Staff Sergeant Air Force AA
371 Ari Boneh Staff Sergeant Infantry
372 Oded Tsipori Sergeant Medicine Corps
373 Avner Niv Sergeant First Class Other
374 Oded Korati Staff Sergeant Other
375 Ran Carmeli Staff Sergeant Other
376 Uri Livneh Staff Sergeant Artillery
377 Eldad Shem-Tov Staff Sergeant Medicine Corps
378 Moshe Arenstein Captain Army Intelligence
379 Nahum Goldberg Sergeant Engineering
380 Omer Peled Staff Sergeant Paratroopers
381 Yotam Bezalel Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
382 Lior Kravitz Captain Army Intelligence
383 Daniel Kaftori Major Other
384 Ori Tokker Mimon Lieutenant Medicine Corps
385 Rami Regavim Sergeant First Class Other
386 Hagai Nakhtomi Sergeant First Class Armored Corps
387 Ofer Rog Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
388 Jonatan Karni Staff Sergeant Paratroopers
389 Aviel Luz Staff Sergeant Other
390 Omry Zalmona Staff Sergeant Engineering
391 Yossi Davidovtch Staff Sergeant Infantry
392 Chen Zeira Staff Sergeant Infantry
393 Gabriel Ben-Ami Major Other
394 Tomer Yaffe Sergeant Medicine Corps
395 Oded Soffair Staff Sergeant Air Force AA
396 Yuval Otzar Sergeant Paratroopers
397 Eitan Lerner Captain Medicine Corps
398 Moshik Tamkin Sergeant Other
399 Amir Terkel Staff Sergeant Other
400 Gabriel Salgado Staff Sergeant Infantry
401 Scott Uri Private first class Infantry
402 Yoav Cohen Corporal Other
403 Amos Shazar Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
404 Avner Barkay Sergeant Infantry
405 Dan Yakir Staff Sergeant Other
406 Doron Sheinman Staff Sergeant Infantry
407 Idan Ashur Sergeant First Class Engineering
408 Uri Dagan Corporal Artillery
409 Dan Bedescu Staff Sergeant Infantry
410 Dani Schrire Lieutenant Air Force AA
411 Elad Zeev Staff Sergeant Artillery
412 Adam Gaynor Corporal Infantry
413 Moran Koren Staff Sergeant Other
414 Oren Levy Sergeant Armored Corps
415 Gil Valabrega Staff Sergeant Infantry
416 Yair Goldfarb Lieutenant Air Force
417 Ran Tene Staff Sergeant Other
418 Amnon Sagiv Captain Army Intelligence
419 Daniel Lantsberg Lieutenant Army Intelligence
420 Eldad Porat Captain Armored Corps
421 Omer Shatz Staff Sergeant Air Force
422 Oren Hershko Sergeant First Class Engineering
423 Nir Konforti Staff Sergeant Artillery
424 Ron Fogel Lieutenant Infantry
425 Yair Kafri Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
426 Oren Yakobovich Lieutenant Other
427 Miki Grinfeld Staff Sergeant Medicine Corps
428 Ilya Shifrin Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
429 Guy Elchanan Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
430 Noam Geva Sergeant Infantry
431 Avi Hengel Lieutenant Other
432 Eyal Fisher Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
433 Kuti Rot Staff Sergeant Infantry
434 Yair Matiash Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
435 Haim Yulzari Staff Sergeant Air Force AA
436 Micha Peri Staff Sergeant Infantry
437 Yuval Ben Ari Sergeant First Class Air Force
438 Elad Orian Staff Sergeant Army Intelligence
439 Asaf Barness Staff Sergeant Other
440 Michael Gedalyovich Captain Army Intelligence
441 Boaz Helfman Captain Infantry
442 Claudio Silberman Sergeant First Class Armored Corps
443 Ido Blum Lieutenant Other
444 Gilad Silberberg Major Navy
445 Erad Omer Lieutenant Air Force AA
446 Yochai Shoshani Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
447 Shai Meiri Sergeant First Class Navy
448 Guy Gavron Lieutenant Other
449 Eli Mor-Yosef Lieutenant Other
450 Adi Sayag Staff Sergeant Artillery
451 Boaz Katz Corporal Other
452 Assaf Alberstain Lieutenant Infantry
453 Elad Yaari Sergeant First Class Air Force
454 Gadi Sprukt Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
455 Udi Or Lieutenant Infantry
456 Arnon Kehat Sergeant Medicine Corps
457 Ofer Amsalem Staff Sergeant Artillery
458 Rami Grinberg Staff Sergeant Paratroopers
459 Tomer Russo Staff Sergeant Other
460 Yair Avigdor Major Artillery
461 Or Shlomi Private first class Artillery
462 Nimrod Shaked Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
463 Oren Yad-Shalom Sergeant First Class Armored Corps
464 Oded Orr Sergeant First Class Navy
465 Yitzhak Hen Captain Paratroopers
466 Ittai Renan Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
467 Yonatan Dominitz First Sergeant Paratroopers
468 Elik Elhanan Staff Sergeant Paratroopers
469 Erez Galil Staff Sergeant Navy
470 Gilad Cohen Sergeant First Class Paratroopers
471 Dan Zeltzer Lieutenant Air Force AA
472 Eitan Meiri Major Other
473 Ami Rayne Lieutenant Air Force
474 Rotem Erez Sergeant First Class Navy
475 Dan Levinsohn Captain Other
476 Shaham Keneth Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
477 Imri Matalon Staff Sergeant Infantry
478 Asaf Sade Lieutenant Armored Corps
479 Eran Amodai Sergeant First Class Armored Corps
480 Ronen Shnayderman Staff Sergeant Artillery
481 Tzahi Slonim Lieutenant Infantry
482 Yuval Dafni Staff Sergeant Engineering
483 Yoni Kozlovski Staff Sergeant Infantry
484 Shacham Ramach Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
485 Michael Yoel Staff Sergeant Infantry
486 Zohar Shapira Staff Sergeant Infantry
487 Elad Tishler Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
488 Eyal Golan Lieutenant Army Intelligence
489 Matan Zisling Sergeant Other
490 Yonatan Fuher Sergeant Other
491 Illai Zeevi Staff Sergeant Infantry
492 Yoav Lewy Staff Sergeant Artillery
493 Ronny Golan Lieutenant Army Intelligence
494 Jacob ShemTov Staff Sergeant Other
495 Noam Hofsstater Captain Air Force AA
496 Amir Gotlib Staff Sergeant Army Intelligence
497 Noam Hupert Sergeant Infantry
498 David Carmel Sergeant Air Force
499 Nickolay Sosenko Staff Sergeant Other
500 Eshel Herzog Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
501 Ofer Kalisky Lieutenant Army Intelligence
502 Yoav Guez Staff Sergeant Medicine Corps
503 David Rosenberg Sergeant Medicine Corps
504 Meir Ganon Sergeant First Class Infantry
505 Roi Amaler Staff Sergeant Air Force
506 Asaf Wexler Lieutenant Army Intelligence
507 Eyal Weizman Staff Sergeant Infantry
508 Uzi Rubinstein Sergeant Engineering
509 Tomer Greener Sergeant Medicine Corps
510 Danny Ayzer Staff Sergeant Other
511 Nadav Har Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
512 Gal Kali Staff Sergeant Paratroopers
513 Chaim Feldman Staff Sergeant Infantry
514 Yariv Salit Staff Sergeant Medicine Corps
515 Ido Tennenbaum Staff Sergeant Other
516 Itzik Shabat Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
517 Arik Gutler-Ofir Staff Sergeant Infantry
518 Amikam Beluko Lieutenant Other
519 Dan Tsahor Staff Sergeant Infantry
520 Zohar Milchgrub Staff Sergeant Infantry
521 Ilai Goshen Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
522 Oren Geva Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
523 Eli Alon Staff Sergeant Infantry
524 Shahar Halinovsky Staff Sergeant Other
525 Lior Yavne Staff Sergeant Other
526 Ilan Feldman Sergeant First Class Infantry
527 Ahikam Dor Staff Sergeant Infantry
528 Ori Yassur Captain Air Force AA
529 Asi Sorek Lieutenant Paratroopers
530 Omer Cohen Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
531 Ido Porat Staff Sergeant Engineering
532 Ronen Berlovich Staff Sergeant Paratroopers
533 Eyal Raz Sergeant Paratroopers
534 Dror Etzion Lieutenant Army Intelligence
535 Hadar Tirosh Staff Sergeant Infantry
536 Lior Gur Staff Sergeant Infantry
537 Ronen Tzur Staff Sergeant Air Force
538 Gil Yasur Staff Sergeant Infantry
539 Alon Andorn Lieutenant Artillery
540 Eitan Diamond Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
541 Ami Livne Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
542 Hagai Guterman Staff Sergeant Infantry
543 Yuval Ben-Ozer Sergeant First Class Paratroopers
544 Ido Roll Captain Air Force
545 Gilad Goldfarb Lieutenant Artillery
546 Udi Nir Private first class Artillery
547 Doron Nachum Sergeant Other
548 Yossi Gilad Sergeant Infantry
549 Shai Efrati Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
550 Roy Talmon Staff Sergeant Infantry
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K9,
hier heb je ook de originele kaart even van het mandaatgebied, want velen weten dat ook niet:

Sinds de inval in wat nu Jordanië heet, mochten daar al geen joden meer wonen, weeral zo iets uit de koran
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Citaat:
Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door k9
Joodse types? Ach ja grappig te zien dat als je israel durft te verdedigen je opeens een jood word
dat is zo een gewoonte blijkbaar. Men heeft ook al gevraagd of ik een flik was? Straks zal ik als de Mossad vertegenwoordiger op het forum bestempeld worden
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vlug die tekst weg !!!
post ik toch gewoon even opnieuw

We, reserve combat officers and soldiers of the Israel Defense Forces, who were raised upon the principles of Zionism, sacrifice and giving to the people of Israel and to the State of Israel, who have always served in the front lines, and who were the first to carry out any mission, light or heavy, in order to protect the State of Israel and strengthen it.
We, combat officers and soldiers who have served the State of Israel for long weeks every year, in spite of the dear cost to our personal lives, have been on reserve duty all over the Occupied Territories, and were issued commands and directives that had nothing to do with the security of our country, and that had the sole purpose of perpetuating our control over the Palestinian people. We, whose eyes have seen the bloody toll this Occupation exacts from both sides.
We, who sensed how the commands issued to us in the Territories, destroy all the values we had absorbed while growing up in this country.
We, who understand now that the price of Occupation is the loss of IDF’s human character and the corruption of the entire Israeli society.
We, who know that the Territories are not Israel, and that all settlements are bound to be evacuated in the end
.
We hereby declare that we shall not continue to fight this War of the Settlements.
We shall not continue to fight beyond the 1967 borders in order to [size=6]dominate, expel, starve and humiliate an entire people.[/size]
We hereby declare that we shall continue serving in the Israel Defense Forces in any mission that serves Israel’s defense.
The missions of occupation and oppression do not serve this purpose – and we shall take no part in them.

8) 8)
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de lijst van de israelische dienstweigeraars die niet langer willen deelnemen aan de palestijnse genocide in de bezette gebieden 8)

1 Avner Inbar Staff Sergeant Engineering
2 Ofir Cohen Staff Sergeant Infantry
3 Itzik Hulday Staff Sergeant Engineering
4 Itai Swirski Lieutenant Paratroopers
5 Amir Engel Staff Sergeant Artillery
6 Amir Samuel Staff Sergeant Paratroopers
7 Amnon Kafri Sergeant First Class Artillery
8 Assaf Oron Sergeant First Class Infantry
9 Ariel Shatil Sergeant First Class Artillery
10 Arik Diamant Staff Sergeant Paratroopers
11 Gil Alexandrovitz Staff Sergeant Artillery
12 Guy Grosman Lieutenant Paratroopers
13 Gyora Alexandron Staff Sergeant Paratroopers
14 Gil Nemesh Staff Sergeant Engineering
15 David Zonshein Lieutenant Paratroopers
16 Dolev Tokatly Staff Sergeant Army Intelligence
17 Dan Tamir Captain Paratroopers
18 Danny Vos Sergeant First Class Navy
19 Danny Mamlok Staff Sergeant Artillery
20 Danny Markovitz Staff Sergeant Engineering
21 Haim Wies Captain Armored Corps
22 Tal Ben Amar Lieutenant Infantry
23 Yair Bustan Lieutenant Navy
24 Yigal Broner Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
25 Yehoda Shalem Staff Sergeant Infantry
26 Yoav Katz First Sergeant Armored Corps
27 Johnathan Katz Staff Sergeant Infantry
28 Yaniv Itzkovitz Lieutenant Paratroopers
29 Ishai Lerman Staff Sergeant Engineering
30 Ishai Rozen Tzvi Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
31 Ishai Sagi Lieutenant Artillery
32 Naor Ben Yehoyada Captain Navy
33 Navot Morag Staff Sergeant Paratroopers
34 Noam Livne Lieutenant Engineering
35 Nir Evron Lieutenant Paratroopers
36 Noam Wiener Lieutenant Infantry
37 Nethanel Elzas Staff Sergeant Infantry
38 Adi Martzuk Staff Sergeant Air Force AA
39 Ofer Shor Captain Infantry
40 Amit Bar Tzedek Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
41 Amit Gal Sergeant First Class Paratroopers
42 Amit Mashiah Staff Sergeant Artillery
43 Ram Alpya Staff Sergeant Infantry
44 Rami Kaplan Major Armored Corps
45 Shoki Shade Staff Sergeant Paratroopers
46 Shahar Dolev Lieutenant Air Force
47 Shai Yakir Staff Sergeant Infantry
48 Shay Tzoker Sergeant First Class Navy
49 Shamai Leibovitz Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
50 Itai Haviv Captain Artillery
51 Amir Efrat Lieutenant Air Force
52 Jonathan Eshpar Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
53 Shahar Smooha Sergeant Armored Corps
54 Uri Tal Staff Sergeant Infantry
55 Ron GerLitz Captain Navy
56 Nir Lahav Staff Sergeant Paratroopers
57 Tal Avgar Staff Sergeant Air Force AA
58 Udi Elifants Lieutenant Artillery
59 Marcelo Svirsky Corporal Engineering
60 Chen Alon Major Armored Corps
61 Ori Rot-Levi Captain Navy
62 Bar Heffetz Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
63 Noam Ziv Major Paratroopers
64 Nir Gov Warrant Officer Other
65 Barak Adorian Sergeant First Class Paratroopers
66 Yossi Veissid Sergeant First Class Infantry
67 Muli Linder Lieutenant Medicine Corps
68 Amir Shahal Captain Infantry
69 dishon bilgory Staff Sergeant Navy
70 Amir Ziv Sergeant First Class Paratroopers
71 Boaz Zussman Major Armored Corps
72 Itai Eisinger Staff Sergeant Artillery
73 Yuval Ron Staff Sergeant Army Intelligence
74 Uzi Dror Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
75 Liron Prestelnik Captain Armored Corps
76 Gilad Svirski Staff Sergeant Artillery
77 Ori Finkelman Lieutenant Artillery
78 Moshe Sivan Captain Armored Corps
79 Barak Atzmon Staff Sergeant Artillery
80 Akiva Leibowitz Captain Artillery
81 Arad Hakim Staff Sergeant Infantry
82 Uri Dotan Staff Sergeant Infantry
83 Dan Goldenblatt Staff Sergeant Paratroopers
84 Timor Israeli Lieutenant Armored Corps
85 Erez Zverling Staff Sergeant Paratroopers
86 Amit Peer Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
87 Leor Kroch Staff Sergeant Infantry
88 Noam Sagi Captain Navy
89 Hanoch Frankovits Lieutenant Armored Corps
90 Hed Bar-Nissan Captain Paratroopers
91 Samuel Miller Staff Sergeant Other
92 Trevor Galor Staff Sergeant Paratroopers
93 Avi Blum First Sergeant Paratroopers
94 Omri Klainberger Staff Sergeant Artillery
95 Amir Rosenfeld Captain Air Force AA
96 Uri AviHay Staff Sergeant Artillery
97 Shay Peled Sergeant Air Force AA
98 Gabi Bokvza Staff Sergeant Paratroopers
99 Roey Vollman Lieutenant Artillery
100 Ram Efrat Staff Sergeant Infantry
101 Clark Hoover Corporal Armored Corps
102 Gilad Elazar Sergeant First Class Infantry
103 Guy Keshet Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
104 Yotam Cohen Sergeant Infantry
105 Ofer Teler Sergeant Other
106 Ronen Edelman Staff Sergeant Army Intelligence
107 Yoram Talmon Captain Medicine Corps
108 Shimon El-Ami Major Other
109 Tal Shamir Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
110 Doron Tzabari Lieutenant Medicine Corps
111 Aviad Roitgrund Staff Sergeant Engineering
112 Oded chakim Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
113 Youval Tamari Captain Air Force
114 Shuli Weis Staff Sergeant Medicine Corps
115 Itai Berger Major Armored Corps
116 Zohar Mor Lieutenant Navy
117 Michael Weksler Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
118 Shahar Tzur Captain Navy
119 Eliav Saharovitch Staff Sergeant Infantry
120 Liron Eliasov Captain Army Intelligence
121 Yaniv Reingwertz Staff Sergeant Engineering
122 Shahar Almagor Captain Navy
123 Alon Barnea Staff Sergeant Engineering
124 Harel Arzi Staff Sergeant Medicine Corps
125 Omer Simha Staff Sergeant Infantry
126 Dadi Lavie Staff Sergeant Paratroopers
127 Asaf Levnon Lieutenant Armored Corps
128 Asaf Guy Staff Sergeant Navy
129 Yaron Hoffman Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
130 Maor Parsai Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
131 Jeremy Swimer Private first class Air Force
132 Yair Morag Staff Sergeant Infantry
133 Gary Sussman Sergeant Infantry
134 Isio Rosental Private Air Force
135 Dani Filc Captain Armored Corps
136 Omry Yeshurun Lieutenant Armored Corps
137 Yigal Onik Sergeant First Class Engineering
138 Ronen Katz Sergeant First Class Armored Corps
139 Doron Mutai Lieutenant Engineering
140 Tal Belo Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
141 yossi revivo Staff Sergeant Infantry
142 Lior Kay Corporal Other
143 gadi doron Sergeant First Class Paratroopers
144 Nadav Shlomot Staff Sergeant Paratroopers
145 yuval agassi Lieutenant Paratroopers
146 yuval netzer Sergeant First Class Armored Corps
147 Amichai Katz Staff Sergeant Infantry
148 Omri Friedman Staff Sergeant Infantry
149 Dror Lutzati Sergeant First Class Engineering
150 Eilon Oron Sergeant First Class Engineering
151 Dani Broitman Staff Sergeant Infantry
152 Yossi Schellas Captain Armored Corps
153 Yariv Mizrahi Captain Armored Corps
154 Assaf Bervald Staff Sergeant Infantry
155 Daniel Lewenhoff Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
156 Avi Shnior Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
157 Amir Shlomian Sergeant Medicine Corps
158 Yariv Shavit Sergeant Armored Corps
159 Alon Arbel Lieutenant Infantry
160 Amit Grossman Staff Sergeant Air Force
161 Omer Karp Major Armored Corps
162 Nir Rosen Staff Sergeant Other
163 Shlomi Segal Staff Sergeant Infantry
164 Asaf Barashi Staff Sergeant Paratroopers
165 Gil Shalit Sergeant Paratroopers
166 Uri Eshhar Lieutenant Armored Corps
167 Asaf Shilo Lieutenant Engineering
168 Yuval Andorn Staff Sergeant Artillery
169 Nik John Corporal Engineering
170 Gome Levin Staff Sergeant Other
171 Ronnen Ben - Arie Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
172 Adi Naar Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
173 Nir Rehav Staff Sergeant Artillery
174 Roi Barak Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
175 Uri Fine Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
176 Ohad Matalon Sergeant First Class Armored Corps
177 Doron Segev Staff Sergeant Army Intelligence
178 Yakov Gabay Staff Sergeant Engineering
179 Michael Sfard Sergeant Medicine Corps
180 Ori Choshen Captain Air Force
181 Tamir Sorek Sergeant First Class Army Intelligence
182 Arik Peretz Staff Sergeant Infantry
183 Amnon Vidan Major Navy
184 Aner Sella Staff Sergeant Artillery
185 Rahav Magen Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
186 Itamar Schweika Captain Army Intelligence
187 Noam Leshem Staff Sergeant Navy
188 Dani Kish Lieutenant Armored Corps
189 Avner Kohavi Sergeant First Class Infantry
190 Platon Melinovski Corporal Armored Corps
191 Assaf Chemets Lieutenant Paratroopers
192 Kim Yuval Staff Sergeant Artillery
193 Eran Laish Staff Sergeant Engineering
194 Udi Sommer Staff Sergeant Air Force
195 Eyal Wurgaft Staff Sergeant Paratroopers
196 Ori Saley Lieutenant Armored Corps
197 Asa Meron Staff Sergeant Artillery
198 Asaf Openheimer Staff Sergeant Engineering
199 Eyal Ben-Basat Staff Sergeant Engineering
200 Amiram Raber Captain Armored Corps
201 Ofer Braver Lieutenant Infantry
202 Ori Lev Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
203 Guy Geltner Staff Sergeant Artillery
204 Ittai Weinryb Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
205 Ariel Tartakovsky Staff Sergeant Artillery
206 Yossi Landesman Staff Sergeant Paratroopers
207 Yaniv Dolev Sergeant Infantry
208 Idan Caspari Sergeant First Class Infantry
209 Itay Rotem Staff Sergeant Armored Corps
210 Aharon Shem-Tov Staff Sergeant Other
211 Oren Entin Corporal Infantry
212 Adi Raveh Staff Sergeant Other
213 Yoav Ben Yaakov Lieutenant Infantry
214 Nir Siani Staff Sergeant Infantry
215 Noam Sheizaf Lieutenant Infantry
216 Shahak Yariv Lieutenant Medicine Corps
217 Nimrod Shilo Staff Sergeant Artillery
218 Noam Geffen Sergeant First Class Artillery
219 Naor Urian Lieutenant Paratroopers
220 Yiftah Ron Sergeant First Class Paratroopers
221 Asher Albo Staff Sergeant Paratroopers
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tutu als bron ? bwaa, alleen dan over apartheid , hij zal het weten zker

Apartheid in the Holy Land

Published in "The Guardian", 29 April 2002

By Desmond Tutu

In our struggle against apartheid, the great supporters were Jewish people. They almost instinctively had to be on the side of the disenfranchised, of the voiceless ones, fighting injustice, oppression and evil. I have continued to feel strongly with the Jews. I am patron of a Holocaust center in South Africa. I believe Israel has a right to secure borders.

What is not so understandable, not justified, is what it did to another people to guarantee its existence. I've been very deeply distressed in my visit to the Holy Land; it reminded me so much of what happened to us black people in South Africa. I have seen the humiliation of the Palestinians at checkpoints and roadblocks, suffering like us when young white police officers prevented us from moving about.

On one of my visits to the Holy Land I drove to a church with the Anglican bishop in Jerusalem. I could hear tears in his voice as he pointed to Jewish settlements. I thought of the desire of Israelis for security. But what of the Palestinians who have lost their land and homes?
I have experienced Palestinians pointing to what were their homes, now occupied by Jewish Israelis. I was walking with Canon Naim Ateek (the head of the Sabeel Ecumenical Center) in Jerusalem. He pointed and said: "Our home was over there. We were driven out of our home; it is now occupied by Israeli Jews." My heart aches. I say why are our memories so short. Have our Jewish sisters and brothers forgotten their humiliation? Have they forgotten the collective punishment, the home demolitions, in their own history so soon? Have they turned their backs on their profound and noble religious traditions? Have they forgotten that God cares deeply about the downtrodden?

Israel will never get true security and safety through oppressing another people. A true peace can ultimately be built only on justice. We condemn the violence of suicide bombers, and we condemn the corruption of young minds taught hatred; but we also condemn the violence of military incursions in the occupied lands, and the inhumanity that won't let ambulances reach the injured.
The military action of recent days, I predict with certainty, will not provide the security and peace Israelis want; it will only intensify the hatred.

Israel has three options: revert to the previous stalemated situation; exterminate all Palestinians; or - I hope - to strive for peace based on justice, based on withdrawal from all the occupied territories, and the establishment of a viable Palestinian state on those territories side by side with Israel, both with secure borders.

We in South Africa had a relatively peaceful transition. If our madness could end as it did, it must be possible to do the same everywhere else in the world. If peace could come to South Africa, surely it can come to the Holy Land?

My brother Naim Ateek has said what we used to say: "I am not pro- this people or that. I am pro-justice, pro-freedom. I am anti- injustice, anti-oppression."

But you know as well as I do that, somehow, the Israeli government is placed on a pedestal [in the US], and to criticize it is to be immediately dubbed anti-Semitic, as if the Palestinians were not Semitic. I am not even anti-white, despite the madness of that group. And how did it come about that Israel was collaborating with the apartheid government on security measures?
[size=6]People are scared in this country [the US]; to say wrong is wrong because the Jewish lobby is powerful - very powerful[/size]. Well, so what? For goodness sake, this is God's world! We live in a moral universe. The apartheid government was very powerful, but today it no longer exists. Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin, Pinochet, Milosevic, and Idi Amin were all powerful, but in the end they bit the dust.

Injustice and oppression will never prevail. Those who are powerful have to remember the litmus test that God gives to the powerful: what is your treatment of the poor, the hungry, the voiceless? And on the basis of that, God passes judgment.

We should put out a clarion call to the government of the people of Israel, to the Palestinian people and say: peace is possible, peace based on justice is possible. We will do all we can to assist you to achieve this peace, because it is God's dream, and you will be able to live amicably together as sisters and brothers.

Desmond Tutu
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zum kotzen...
begrijpelijk dat er steeds meer dienstweigeraars komen...de lijst hierboven is enkel de officiële , jezelf zo publiekelijk outen heeft natuurlijk minder aangename consequenties.


dit komt er vrij dichtbij .... men wil de palestijnen volledig inkapselen ! let op de OOSTkant en de walgelijke annexatie (ongeveer de helft van de Westbank )... maar ja, je bent dan een anti semiet he

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Hier is nog een deel van de telefoon gids, misschien dat dit ook nog anderen kan interesseren

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welke dienstweigeraars ??

RAAK en goed he
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zum kotzen...
begrijpelijk dat er steeds meer dienstweigeraars komen...de lijst hierboven is enkel de officiële , jezelf zo publiekelijk outen heeft natuurlijk minder aangename consequenties.


dit komt er vrij dichtbij .... men wil de palestijnen volledig inkapselen ! let op de OOSTkant en de walgelijke annexatie (ongeveer de helft van de Westbank )... maar ja, je bent dan een anti semiet he

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maar ja, je bent dan een anti semiet he
Ge zijt niet antisemiet omdat ge tegen de Israelische regering bent, of omdat je een probleem hebt met de territoriale en/of zelfverdediging/agressive acties van Israel ...
Je bent antisemiet omdat je een andere standaard toepast op en andere eisen hebt van de Joodse staat dan van andere staten ..

Als 1 of andere Arabische of Afrikaanse stam exact hetzelfde zou doen als de Israeli's op dat territorium zou geen enkele Europese haan ernaar kraaien ... (zie ook bvb. dat er in de voorbije 6 maanden meer moorden zijn geweest in Sudan dan in 50 jaar conflict tussen Israel en de Palestijnen, dat andere volkeren in het midden-oosten helemaal geen zelfbeschikkingsrecht hebben (want hoe kan een volk zelfbeschikkingsrecht hebben/uitoefenen als ze haar leiders niet kan kiezen en de meeste arabische landen hebben nog nooit verkiezingen gehad, dat het algemeen geweten is en het zelf niet geheim gehouden worden dat al die regimes in het Midden Oosten dagelijks duizenden mensen martelen, dat vrouwen en minderheden onderdrukt worden etc... )

Dat raakt uw kouwe kleren niet of amper en hetzelfde geldt voor vele Europeanen. Als echter de Israelische regering actie onderneemt dan springt u, en vele europeanen, direct op de barricades. Uw kritiek op de Israelische regering is voor een deel gerechtvaardigd want niet alle acties van die regering zijn kosher zullen we maar zeggen maar u verliest uw morele rechtvaardiging als u zo goed als alle andere volkeren, die gelijkaardige en veel ergere acties ondernemen, niet of amper bekritiseert (ik weet het, u gaat zeggen dat u ook tegen wat er in de Soedan gebeurt bent, maar ik zie u geen banners ervoor maken en ik zie Europa ook geen betogingen organiseren)... Het feit dat u de Joden op een andere manier behandelt dan alle andere volkeren maakt de kritiek die sommigen op u hebben gerechtvaardigd.
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