burgers gedood

[illwill]

Wave of violence leaves 19 dead in Baghdad
POSTED: 1506 GMT (2306 HKT), September 7, 2006
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BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- Insurgent attacks ripped across Baghdad on Thursday, killing at least 19 people, and four bodies were found dumped in the capital -- killings that bore the hallmarks of sectarian violence.

The bodies were found in different neighborhoods, police said. The dumping of bodies has been linked with Sunni-Shiite retribution killings.

The bloodiest attack happened in southeastern Baghdad, where at least 10 people were killed and several others wounded when a suicide car bomb exploded near Iraqi emergency police headquarters in the Alwiya neighborhood, emergency police said.

Three vehicles and nearby shops were damaged in the blast. Police said officers were refueling their vehicles in an industrial area just behind the police station when the attack took place.

In northern Baghdad, three people were killed and 13 others wounded when a car bomb exploded near a joint patrol of police and army officials in the Qahira neighborhood Thursday morning, a Baghdad emergency police official said. (Watch what happens on a deadly day in Baghdad -- 1:35)

In central Baghdad, a suicide car bomb detonated outside a fueling station close to the Iraqi Interior Ministry Complex in the central Baghdad Bab al-Shurji district, Baghdad emergency police officials said. A source told CNN that two police officers were killed and 23 others were wounded, including six police officers.

[willem1940NLD]

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Wave of violence leaves 19 dead in Baghdad
POSTED: 1506 GMT (2306 HKT), September 7, 2006
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BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- Insurgent attacks ripped across Baghdad on Thursday, killing at least 19 people, and four bodies were found dumped in the capital -- killings that bore the hallmarks of sectarian violence.

The bodies were found in different neighborhoods, police said. The dumping of bodies has been linked with Sunni-Shiite retribution killings.

The bloodiest attack happened in southeastern Baghdad, where at least 10 people were killed and several others wounded when a suicide car bomb exploded near Iraqi emergency police headquarters in the Alwiya neighborhood, emergency police said.

Three vehicles and nearby shops were damaged in the blast. Police said officers were refueling their vehicles in an industrial area just behind the police station when the attack took place.

In northern Baghdad, three people were killed and 13 others wounded when a car bomb exploded near a joint patrol of police and army officials in the Qahira neighborhood Thursday morning, a Baghdad emergency police official said. (Watch what happens on a deadly day in Baghdad -- 1:35)

In central Baghdad, a suicide car bomb detonated outside a fueling station close to the Iraqi Interior Ministry Complex in the central Baghdad Bab al-Shurji district, Baghdad emergency police officials said. A source told CNN that two police officers were killed and 23 others were wounded, including six police officers.

Redeneer ik politiek-correct als ik denk dat dit valt onder "rituele moorden"?

[StevenNr1]

Wat is uw punt Illwill?

[illwill]

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Wat is uw punt Illwill?

Dat er weer een 30-tal burgers gedood zijn, niet belangrijk voor jou misschien? Twaren geen amerikanen é.

[StevenNr1]

Erg natuurlijk, maar wie zit er achter en waarom, en wie heeft de chaos in de eerste plaats doen ontstaan, wie heeft er met zijn oorlog zelf al duizenden burgers gedood in Irak? En volgens wat ik lees is het nog maar de vraag of het verzet voor de meeste burgerslachtoffers zorgt, waarschijnlijkt is het net de hele anti-verzetsmachine die het ergste geweld pleegt. (Zie bijv. het citaat uit een artikel waar ik naar verwees op de vorige pagina.)

[garfield]

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Erg natuurlijk, maar wie zit er achter en waarom, en wie heeft de chaos in de eerste plaats doen ontstaan, wie heeft er met zijn oorlog zelf al duizenden burgers gedood in Irak? En volgens wat ik lees is het nog maar de vraag of het verzet voor de meeste burgerslachtoffers zorgt, waarschijnlijkt is het net de hele anti-verzetsmachine die het ergste geweld pleegt. (Zie bijv. het citaat uit een artikel waar ik naar verwees op de vorige pagina.)

Wie zit erachter ?? 2ledige
Al qaida irak en miscontente Sunni omdat ze hun postjes kwijt zijn. Tracht chaos en verderf te zaaien door hun medeburgers en Shia-broeders te vermoorden.
En dan de Shia die vaak even bruut eens terugslaan.

[StevenNr1]

Op de vorige pagina postte ik het volgende:

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Belangrijke quote uit US Collusion with Iraqi Death Squads : "If we want to make sense of what is happening in Iraq we need to recognize that words like SCIRI, Badr and Mahdi, together with phrases like civil war, sectarian violence, revenge killings and tit-for-tat murders all serve to deemphasize the centrality of the occupation and mystify what is a very real and deadly counterinsurgency war."

Het is dus wel net iets anders dan sektair geweld en misnoegdheid hoor. (Ok, wat u over buitenlandse terroristen zei, klopt wel min of meer maar de vraag is in welke mate zij in het conflict aanwezig zijn en hoe zij evolueren want volgens sommige bronnen zou er meer toenaderings gezocht worden met het legitieme Irakese verzet (dat helemaal niet alleen uit soennieten bestaat maar in tegendeel gesteund wordt door de meerderheid van de bevolking, met welke religieus-etnische achtergrond dan ook.)

[illwill]

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Erg natuurlijk, maar wie zit er achter en waarom, en wie heeft de chaos in de eerste plaats doen ontstaan, wie heeft er met zijn oorlog zelf al duizenden burgers gedood in Irak? En volgens wat ik lees is het nog maar de vraag of het verzet voor de meeste burgerslachtoffers zorgt, waarschijnlijkt is het net de hele anti-verzetsmachine die het ergste geweld pleegt. (Zie bijv. het citaat uit een artikel waar ik naar verwees op de vorige pagina.)

Volgens jou ogen natuurlijk allemaal de schuld van de amerikanen.

Ik heb ook al in vorige posts uitgelegt waarom deze mening niet aan mij is besteed.

Deze aanslagen zijn simpelweg moordenaars die smorgens er zelf voor kiezen om in een auto te stappen om onschuldige mensen op te blazen. Niet de schuld van de amerikanen.

[parcifal]

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Deze aanslagen zijn simpelweg moordenaars die smorgens er zelf voor kiezen om in een auto te stappen om onschuldige mensen op te blazen. Niet de schuld van de amerikanen.

De amerikanen.... zijn dat niet diegenen die eerst een jaar lang ontkennen dat er CIA gevangenissen in het buitenland zijn om het daarna onder druk van een rechtbank toe te geven?
Condoleeza Rice en het ganse Dep. of Foreign affairs zijn dus effectief leugenaars. Dat is dus een onbetwistbaar feit, nietwaar?

De amerikanen, zijn dat niet diegenen die in Irak een illegale oorlog gestart zijn op basis van -alweer- leugens?
Om te beginnen : een dreiging van niet bestaande WMD.
En daarnaast, door banden te 'suggereren' tussen Saddam en Al Quaeda?

Van deze BBC website :

There is no evidence of formal links between Iraqi ex-leader Saddam Hussein and al-Qaeda leaders in Iraq prior to the 2003 war, a US Senate report says.

The finding is contained in a 2005 CIA report released by the Senate's Intelligence Committee on Friday. US President George W Bush has said that the presence of late al-Qaeda leader Abu Musab al-Zarqawi in Iraq before the war was evidence of a link. ...

It said that Iraq and al-Qaeda were ideologically poles apart.

"Saddam Hussein was distrustful of al-Qaeda and viewed Islamic extremists as a threat to his regime, refusing all requests from al-Qaeda to provide material or operational support," it said.
The Senate report added that the Iraqi regime had repeatedly rejected al-Qaeda requests for meetings.

De amerikanen, zijn dat niet diegenen waarvan de Britten de laatste tijd niet echt veel meer moeten hebben?
Uit de Wallstreet Journal Online :

Consider the findings of a July YouGov poll on the British view of America and Americans.
Sixty-five percent of respondents consider Americans "vulgar";
72% think American society is unequal;
52% take a negative view of American culture;
and 58% believe the U.S. is "an essentially imperial power, one that wants to dominate the world by one means or another."
Only 12% of Britons have confidence in U.S. leadership.

Uiteraard heeft iedereen hier ongelijk, behalve Illwill.

[illwill]

Wave of bombs kills 23 in Kirkuk
POSTED: 1316 GMT (2116 HKT), September 17, 2006
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BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- Four car bomb attacks in less than three hours in the northern Iraqi city of Kirkuk on Sunday left at least 23 people dead and 66 wounded, police told CNN.

The victims were police and civilians, officials said.

The first attack, carried out by a suicide car bomber, took place at 10 a.m. near the criminal investigation division of Kirkuk's police building, police said.

Ten minutes later, a suicide car bomber detonated outside a building housing an organization for children, and 20 minutes after that, a parked car bomb exploded outside a mosque, police said.

The fourth car bomb exploded at 12:30 p.m. on a street in the center of Kirkuk, which is 380 kilometers (235 miles) north of Baghdad.

Further south in Baquba, a roadside bomb struck an Iraqi police patrol around 12:30 p.m., killing two Iraqi police officers and wounding three others, police told CNN.

Baquba is about 50 kilometers north of Baghdad, where police found 24 unidentified bodies around the city in the past 24 hours. Most of the victims were shot in the head, with bound hands and showed signs of torture.

Last week, more than 150 bodies were found dumped across Baghdad in killings authorities believe resulted from Sunni-Shiite sectarian hostilities.

Het is druk geweest zo te zien in de tijd dat ik eruit ben geweest.

[Antoon]

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Het is druk geweest zo te zien in de tijd dat ik eruit ben geweest.

De moslims moorden elkaar uit, bijna dagelijks, op verschillende plaatsen in de wereld.

[illwill]

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De moslims moorden elkaar uit, bijna dagelijks, op verschillende plaatsen in de wereld.

k merk het ja. Tzijn toch engeltjes é.

[illwill]

Bombs take more lives in Iraq
POSTED: 1323 GMT (2123 HKT), September 20, 2006
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BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- A suicide truck bomber detonated his explosives at the entrance of an Iraqi police base Wednesday, killing four police officers and wounding 11 more in Dora, a southern neighborhood in Baghdad, Iraqi emergency police said.

Three civilians were also wounded.

Near the northern city of Mosul, a double bombing killed 21 people, The Associated Press reported.

A bomb in a parked car detonated Tuesday night near an Iraqi army base in Sharqat, about 45 miles from Mosul, police told the AP. A suicide bomber then set off his explosives as a crowd gathered.

The AP said 50 people were wounded in the bombings.

Four other civilians were wounded during a mortar attack in northeast Baghdad Wednesday, police said.

And, across the Iraqi capital, police said they found 35 unidentified bodies in the 24-hour period ending at 6 a.m. Wednesday.

Police said they have found 227 bodies throughout the city in the past seven days

[illwill]

Video purports to show abuse of U.S. soldiers' bodies
POSTED: 2012 GMT (0412 HKT), September 23, 2006
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CAIRO, Egypt (AP) -- An al Qaeda-linked group posted a Web video Saturday purporting to show the bodies of two American soldiers being dragged behind a truck, then set on fire.

The acts apparently were in retaliation for the alleged rape-slaying of a young Iraqi woman by U.S. troops from the same unit.

The Mujahedeen Shura Council -- an umbrella organization of insurgent groups, including al Qaeda in Iraq -- posted another video in June showing the soldiers' mutilated bodies, and claiming it killed them. (Full story)

It was not clear whether the video posted Saturday was a continuation of that footage from June, or why it was released.

The footage also appeared the same day previously released video was posted again, showing the man purported to be the new leader of al Qaida in Iraq execute a Turkish hostage.

Blijkbaar niet de moeite voor anti-us'er om er aandacht aan te schenken, dus doe ik het maar weer é. Maar goed dat deze mensen geen bijbel door de plee spoelden, dat zou pas erg zijn.

[illwill]

Car bomb targeting police kills Iraqi civilian
POSTED: 0910 GMT (1710 HKT), September 24, 2006
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BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- One Iraqi civilian was killed and 14 others wounded -- including three police officers -- when a car bomb targeting a police patrol exploded near Karrada in eastern Baghdad Sunday, Iraqi emergency police said.

Sunday marked the first day Shiite Muslims began observing the holy month of Ramadan, when they fast from dusk to dawn. Sunnis began their fasting Saturday. Ramadan lasts until October 23.

The U.S. military has warned of a surge of violence that could coincide with the holiday.

On Saturday, an explosion ripped through crowds of shoppers stocking up for Ramadan, killing at least 34 of them, Baghdad police said.

At least 29 others were injured in the blast that ignited a fuel tanker as people were buying supplies in Sadr City, a sprawling Baghdad slum and Shiite stronghold. Crowds of Iraqis are out and about stocking up for the holy month.

The bomb went off as a crowd gathered behind the truck, The Associated Press quoted police as saying.

[StevenNr1]

Een overzicht van berichten over/van 'the Iraqi resistance' vertaald van islammemo.cc : http://www.albasrah.net/pages/mod.ph...od=gis&rep=rep

[illwill]

At 18 least killed in violence across Iraq
POSTED: 1551 GMT (2351 HKT), September 26, 2006


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BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- A car bombing outside Communist Party headquarters in Baghdad killed four civilians, one of several attacks Tuesday that left 18 people dead across Iraq.

The central Baghdad blast also wounded 18 others.

In a rampage by suspected members of a Shiite militia, gunmen opened fire on civilians, killing three and wounding 10, in western Baghdad's predominately Sunni neighborhood of Amel, police said.

The gunmen then set Sunni shops on fire in Bayaa, a nearby mixed area, police said.

Also Tuesday, police found two bodies bearing signs of torture, raising the number of bodies recovered in the capital since Sunday to 62.

Such attacks and proliferation of dumped bodies underscore the sectarian tensions between Sunnis and Shiites in Iraq.

In other violence, a pair of bombs exploded in eastern Baghdad's Rubaie neighborhood, killing at least three people and wounding 21 others, police said.

The first bomb, which was planted in a parked car, went off as a police patrol passed. The second, a roadside bomb, exploded as police and the U.S. military rushed to the scene. Eight police officers were among the wounded.

A pair of bombs also targeted civilians in Mahmoudiya in Babil province south of Baghdad, killing five and wounding eight others.

[illwill]

BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- For a second day, gunmen dressed as Iraqi government forces staged a mass kidnapping Monday, raiding several computer stores in central Baghdad and seizing at least 14 people, a Baghdad emergency police official told CNN.

The abductions were carried out by at least 25 gunmen impersonating Iraqi security forces. The kidnappers, traveling in seven vehicles, raided computer stores near Baghdad's Technology University around noon (5 a.m. ET).

On Sunday, at least 20 gunmen, several disguised as police commandos, kidnapped 26 workers from a Baghdad meat processing plant, according to a Baghdad emergency police official.

The U.S. military began distributing new Iraqi police uniforms last week, in an effort to prevent insurgents from pretending to be police while carrying out kidnappings and attacks.

Some insurgent attacks are believed to have been carried out by militia members who have been integrated into Iraq's security forces, but have not changed their loyalties.

[illwill]

BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- With the Islamic holy month of Ramadan under way, insurgent attacks in Iraq have risen in the past two weeks, particularly in Baghdad, a U.S. military commander said Wednesday.

"This has been a tough week," Maj. Gen. William Caldwell said. "This week's suicide attacks were at their highest level of any given week."

About half of those attacks targeted security forces, Caldwell said.

He said around 50 percent of car bombings were suicide strikes, blaming "terrorists" and "illegal armed groups" for attacks during Ramadan, which began Saturday.

[parcifal]

Bush's Iraq options limited

By Paul Reynolds
World affairs correspondent, BBC News website



A warning by a senior Republican senator that "bold decisions" will be required on Iraq if progress is not made soon has prompted talk that the White House might be forced into policy changes after the mid-term elections in November.

The problem for President George W Bush was illustrated by an example only this last week.
The hope that US troops would be "stood down" as Iraqi troops "stand up" was turned upside down.
It was an Iraqi police unit in Baghdad that was stood down, because of suspicions that it was condoning militia murders.
If the US cannot rely on the Iraqis, then the policy of transferring responsibility has no prospect of success.



And if there is no political solution, then the violence will continue.

The president's options are limited.
There are at least four wars going on Iraq - the war by jihadists against US troops, the war by nationalists against US troops, the war by Sunni jihadists against Shias and the war by Shia militias against Sunnis.

Any action he takes to alleviate one area could impact on another.
He is hardly likely to announce a withdrawal.
He himself has said that Iraq is the frontline in the war on terror he declared after 9/11.
Withdrawal therefore would be an admission of defeat in that war and might hand the country over to the jihadists, his absolutely worst nightmare.

Talks with insurgents?
He could send more troops. The US public would be doubtful to say the least and Congress might not fund them.
He could threaten to withdraw some troops in the hope of shocking the Iraqi government do more against the Shia militias.
But that might simply not work. And it could encourage the insurgents.

He could suggest negotiating with the nationalist insurgents.
The Iraqi government is already trying to do so but will not accept the insurgents' demand for a US withdrawal.
But can the violence be stoped without insurgent agreement?
Insurgent defeat looks impossible.
He could suggest dividing Iraq along its ethnic lines. But that could precipitate a full-scale civil war.
Or he could just batten down the hatches and stick it out.