Saoedi Arabia wil een jonge man onthoofden die meedeed aan betoging tegen regering

[TheFourHorsemen]

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Is zij dan een soort van manifestant tegen de regering om de openbare orde te verstoren, buitenlandse syriestrijder of atheist?
De fundamenten van de islam moeten in vraag worden gesteld om tot terrorisme gecatalogiseerd te worden.

En als ze zegt dat ze een echte moslim is, dan zal dat wel zo zijn? God is degene die daarover oordeelt.

Ik had het helemaal niet over manifesteren tegen de regering. Ik vroeg gewoon of de prinses volgens jou een echte moslima is.

Is het voor jou bijvoorbeeld een groot probleem dat ze geen hoofddoek draagt?

[TheFourHorsemen]

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Zij is liberaal.

Jij bent Guinevere niet.

[Wautd]

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Hier Jenever, een paar verhaaltjes over je zalige wonderland ergens ver weg in de woestijn....


Bron

Wil van God

[Maori]

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Wil van God

Maar dat was het feit dat die vrouw doofstom was toch ook dus hoe kan god straffen voor iets dat hij zelf gecreëerd heeft?

[Wautd]

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Maar dat was het feit dat die vrouw doofstom was toch ook dus hoe kan god straffen voor iets dat hij zelf gecreëerd heeft?

Waarom niet? Of ga je er soms van uit dat Allah rechtvaardig is?

[zonbron]

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Betogen tegen de regering in SA is dan ook een beetje dom. Ik zou persoonlijk enkel en alleen een vraagje hebben en dat is of ik misschien het bed zou mogen delen met Princess Ameerah Al Taweel .

Deze dame ervaart moslimfanatisme als iets dom voor de massa's. Zijzelf gelooft in de wetenschap, pacha mama en mensenrechten. Blijkbaar een gemeenschappelijke hobby onder de Saudische princessen.

Saudi royal by the full name of HRH Princess Basmah Bint Saud bin Abdul Aziz Al Saud.

[Maori]

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Waarom niet? Of ga je er soms van uit dat Allah rechtvaardig is?

Ja.....grote denkfout zeker?

Ik baseer me op jenever haar loflezingen aan haar god's adres. Daar zou ik niet van verwachten dat die een doofstomme vrouw zou laten vermoorden.

[Maori]

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Deze dame ervaart moslimfanatisme als iets dom voor de massa's. Zijzelf gelooft in de wetenschap, pacha mama en mensenrechten. Blijkbaar een gemeenschappelijke hobby onder de Saudische princessen.

Saudi royal by the full name of HRH Princess Basmah Bint Saud bin Abdul Aziz Al Saud.

Is dat de zus van die moordenaar?

[Pandareus]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Nietzsche

Betogen tegen de regering in SA is dan ook een beetje dom. Ik zou persoonlijk enkel en alleen een vraagje hebben en dat is of ik misschien het bed zou mogen delen met Princess Ameerah Al Taweel .

Prachtige vrouw.

Ik heb al met slechter krijt geschreven.

[Pandareus]

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Straffeloos tegenover terrorisme?

De interventie in Jemen is een offensief van negen Arabische staten tegen de Houthi-strijders in Jemen met de bedoeling om de macht van de Jeminitische president Abd Rabbuh Mansur Al-Hadi, die onder bedreiging was sinds de Jeminitische burgeroorlog, te herstellen.
https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interv...in_Jemen_(2015)

Maw SA voert mee strijd tegen terroristen die de laatste rechtmatige president van Jemen hebben verdreven.

Is SA en hun hulpjes daar op vraag van de jemenitische regering ? Ik dacht van niet... Het is dus een buitenlandse agressie tegen Jemen.

Maar laat ons elkaar geen Liesbethje noemen : we weten alle twee dat het hier om een proxy war gaat tussen de sunni wereld en de sjia wereld. Meer konkreet : SA versus Iran (die de houthi's steunen).

Blijkt trouwens dat de golfstaten die mee met SA de aanval hadden ingezet zich al gauw terug getrokken hebben. Die Houthi's schieten namelijk terug.

[zonbron]

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Is dat de zus van die moordenaar?

Nope. Familie.

Born in Riyadh to the Saudi Royal family, Her Royal Highness (HRH) Princess Basmah is the daughter of King Saud, and the granddaughter of King Abdel Aziz, the founder of the modern state of Saudi Arabia in 1932.


HRH Princess Basmah has earned significant knowledge and life experience by being exposed to different cultures around the world. Having studied at the Christian Sister School in Lebanon and later pursuing her higher education in Switzerland and London where she focused on sociology and psychology before embarking on in depth training on strategic thinking.

http://basmahbintsaud.com/about-hrh/



Nog wat toelichting:

Today, the surname "Al Saud" is carried by any descendant of Muhammad bin Saud or his three brothers Farhan, Thunayyan, and Mishari. Al Saud's other family branches are called cadet branches. Members of the cadet branches hold high and influential positions in government though they are not in line of succession to Saudi throne. Many cadet members intermarry within the Al Saud to reestablish their lineage and continue to wield influence in the government.

Sons and grandsons of King Abdulaziz are referred to in the style "His Royal Highness" (HRH), differing from the royals belonging to the cadet branches which are called "His Highness" (HH).

[Maori]

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Nope. Familie.

Born in Riyadh to the Saudi Royal family, Her Royal Highness (HRH) Princess Basmah is the daughter of King Saud, and the granddaughter of King Abdel Aziz, the founder of the modern state of Saudi Arabia in 1932.


HRH Princess Basmah has earned significant knowledge and life experience by being exposed to different cultures around the world. Having studied at the Christian Sister School in Lebanon and later pursuing her higher education in Switzerland and London where she focused on sociology and psychology before embarking on in depth training on strategic thinking.

http://basmahbintsaud.com/about-hrh/

Bedankt.

Waarom ging die naar de christian sister school?
En wat doet ze met al die wijsheid als ze in een land woont waar vrouwen zich niet mogen laten zien, laat staan horen?

[Pandareus]

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Ik hoor ook continu dat de Verenigde Staten verantwoordelijk is voor Al Qaida, IS... alez steek maar eens een proces in elkaar.

Wat jij daar schrijft over SA is uw mening maar daar ben ik het dus niet mee eens.

Er bestaat geen gematigde of niet-gematigde islam. Uw afkeer voor de islam is geen rechtvaardiging om hypocriet met twee maten twee gewichten te beginnen meten wat betreft "mensenrechten" op wereldvlak.

De afweging die ik maak gaat niet over Islam <==> de VS
En leg mij geen woorden in de mond aub, ik ben geen islamofoob.
Ik heb niets tegen sjiieten, ik heb niets tegen 90% van de sunni's die het salafisme of wahabisme gelukkig niet aanhangen en als normale burgers leven. Ik heb enkel iets tegen salafisten en barbaarse regimes waar men mensen amputeert, stenigt, decapiteert enz.

Er bestaat zeer zeker een gematigde en een extreme vorm van islam. Vergeet niet dat de grondlegger van het wahabisme , Mohammed ibn Abdul-Wahhab, zijn extremistische visie op wat volgens hem de 'ware' islam is slechts in 1736 heeft geschreven. Hij heeft succes gehad, omdat hij zich associeerde met Mohammed Bin Saoud, die toen aan zijn veroveringstocht begon in wat we later zullen kennen als Saoudi Arabië. Koppel drang naar macht samen met een uitgesproken wil tot prediking en je krijgt een winner. Dat komt omdat ibn abdul wahhab een heeel efficiënt truukje heeft uitgevonden. Met name zijn stelling dat iedereen die niet bereid is de ander tot ongelovige te bestempelen zelf een ongelovige is. Dat zet natuurlijk de deur open om mensen totaal te indoctrineren en te domineren, aangezien de straf voor afvalligen en ongelovigen de doodstraf is.
De slimmerik consolideerde zijn positie door te huwen met bin Saoud zijn dochter en vanaf dan was hij onaantastbaar.
Het resultaat zien we tot op heden

Zijn moeder had ibn-abdul wahhab direct na de geboorte beter op de mesthoop gesmeten, de wereld zou er nu veel beter uitzien. Wie weet was SA dan nu een land met gematigde moslims, en zou de wetenschap daar nog aanwezig zijn en niet enkel het dogma. Dan zouden al de honderden kunstvoorwerpen en oude tempels er in SA nog staan in plaats van systematisch vernietigd te zijn door de wahabieten.

[SDX]

Welke versie van de koran e.a. islamitische geschriften volgen de aanhangers van die "gematigde islam" dan wel?

[Maori]

Jenever geeft niet thuis bij vervelende vragen zoals hier eerder al opgemerkt werd.

[zonbron]

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Bedankt.

Waarom ging die naar de christian sister school?
En wat doet ze met al die wijsheid als ze in een land woont waar vrouwen zich niet mogen laten zien, laat staan horen?

...


But then Basma Bint Saud is no ordinary Saudi princess.

A 47-year-old divorcee and a successful businesswoman, she has spent the last five years in the country building a parallel career as a journalist and a blogger, confronting head on sensitive subjects from the abuse of women and poverty in the world's second biggest oil exporter to the chilling effect of the mutawa, the kingdom's draconian religious police.

Such has been her success at shining a light on the problems in Saudi society (a Facebook fan page has 25,000 followers), she now conducts her campaign not from her birthplace in the capital, Riyadh, or her previous home in Jeddah but a recently-acquired house in the west London suburb of Acton which she shares with three of her five children.

The princess underlines that she was not forced to leave Saudi Arabia and goes out of her way to emphasise that her criticisms do not relate to her octogenarian uncle, King Abdullah, or the other senior members of the monarchy. Instead, the focus of her anger is the tier of governors, administrators and plutocrats who run the country day to day.

Amnesty International this month accused the Saudi authorities of conducting a campaign of repression against protesters and reformists in the kingdom in the wake of revolutions sweeping the Arab world, during which Riyadh sent troops into neighbouring Bahrain while protests for greater political freedom among Shi'ites were stamped out. The impression of increased authoritarianism was not allayed by detention in October of three young Saudi film makers who posted on the internet a documentary about poverty in Riyadh.

The princess insists she is no "rebel" nor an advocate of regime change. But in an interview The Independent, she equally does not pull her punches when it comes to the question of who bears responsibility for the ills that she considers beset her country.

Sat in a living room decorated with Saudi artefacts and in front of a table carrying a plate of Saudi dates ("the best in the world"), she said: "The problems are because of the ruling ministers. We have ministers who are incapable of doing what has been ordered from above because there is no follow up, because there are no consequences. If you are poor man and you steal, your hand is cut off after three offences. But if you are a rich man, nobody will say anything to you."

She added: "We have 15,000 royals and around 13,000 don't enjoy the wealth of the 2,000. You have 2,000 who are multi-millionaires, who have all the power, all the wealth and no-one can even utter a word against it because they are afraid to lose what they have."

Asked if her decision to speak out means she risks losing what she has, she replied: "Oh, definitely. Definitely."

Speaking fluently with a neutral English accent picked up as a teenager in the Home Counties, Basma is the first to admit she is the product of a not only a privileged upbringing but also an atypical one for a Saudi princess. She is the 115th - and last - child of King Saud, the eldest surviving son of Saudi Arabia's founding monarch Abdul Aziz.

King Saud was overthrown in 1964 by his brother, Faisal, and left for exile in Europe. Basma's mother, a Syrian-born woman who was chosen for her future husband when she visited Mecca on the haj at the age of 10, took her children to the Middle East's then most cosmopolitan city, the Lebanese capital of Beirut, where the young princess was schooled by French nuns among Christians, Jews and Muslims who did not adhere to the austere Wahhabi branch of Islam practiced in Saudi Arabia.

When Lebanon's civil war broke out in 1975, the family fled for Britain where she attended a Hertfordshire girls' school and an international college in Oxford before spending two years studying in Switzerland. It was a very different existence from the closeted upbringing normally led by young Saudi royals.

She explained how, at the age of 17, she joined one of the first visits to post-Mao China by foreign students, describing vividly how her group were taken to a farm and treated to a delicacy in the form of the brains of a live monkey chained and slaughtered at the table. She said: "Some girls screamed and fainted. Others were sick. I went to the car and refused to go back into the building. China was like visiting the moon."

Equally alien was the land of her birth when she returned in early 1980s. Upon entering the royal court ("I was very careful, very nervous to behave correctly"), she found a cut-off society which, paradoxically, was more relaxed than present-day Saudi Arabia.

She said: "If China was like the moon, then arriving in Saudi Arabia was Mars. At least you can see the moon from Earth. It was a completely secluded society but I wouldn't say backward - not as backward as it is now. It was much more open and tolerant. You wouldn't hear people saying ‘go to prayer', ‘go and do this and that'.

"This is the atmosphere you have now. It is such a non-tolerant atmosphere, even of other sects. Any other sect that doesn't actually belong to our community is thought to be - I'm not going to be sharp but very specific - not the true Islam."

It is an intolerance which she claims pervades Saudi society, fromented by the mutawa, otherwise known as the Commission for the Promotion of Virtue and Prevention of Vices, ironically founded her father to act as a check on traders charging inflated prices.

The princess said: "Our religious police has the most dangerous effect on society - the segregation of genders, putting the wrong ideas in the heads of men and women, producing psychological diseases that never existed in our country before, like fanatacism. The mutawa are everywhere, trying to lead society to a very virtuous life that doesn't exist. Everthing is now behind closed doors."

Amid regular accounts of executions - Amnesty International last week described as "truly appalling" the death penalty carried out on a Saudi woman for "sorcery and witchcraft - Basma makes the point that human rights abuses happen to both genders but fall disproportionately on women.

As a result, she is slightly bewildered by the focus on the continuing prohibition on Saudi women, who cannot go to university or take a job without a male guardian's permission, from being allowed to drive.

She said: "Why don't we actually fight for a woman's right even to complain about being beaten up. That is more important than driving. If a woman is beaten, they are told to go back to their homes - their fathers, husbands, brothers - to be beaten up again and locked up in the house. No law, no police will protect them.

"We are overlooking essential rights of a human being - the right to mix between the sexes, to talk and study freely... We have got human rights but they are paralysed. They are completely abstract, for the media and the western world."

The princess, who divorced from her Saudi husband six years ago and went into business setting up a series of restaurant chains which she now intends to expand into Britain, has not been afraid to air similar views in Saudi Arabia, writing in newspapers and websites on issues from the mutawa, to women's prisons and clothing. She eschews what she describes as the expected "sleep by day, live at night" leisured life of Saudi princesses and is instead setting up a charity to fight poverty in the Arab world by offering a Fair Trade-type deal to artisans which will include access to education and health care.

But in a country where doctrine and adherence to orthodoxy can be everything, Princess Basma is aware of the hostility generated by a woman speaking out. She has studied Islam in depth, becoming a scholar of the faith's great texts to give her the authority to challenge the teachings of Saudi imams. Armed with the evidence of scripture, she has rebuked the authorities in writing on issues from driving to the doctrinal basis for the requirement that women cover up in public.

But the eruption of democracy movements in Tunisia, Egypt and Syria has brought an abrupt end to her reporting from Saudi Arabia. This summer, officials began to suggest she "edit" her work. She said: "The first time they took out some sentences. The second time, paragraphs. The last time, they told me to change the whole article or the editor who published it would go to prison. I didn't want to send anyone to prison on my behalf."

...

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/pe...a-6284225.html


Nog interessant:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...uncovered.html

https://themuslimissue.wordpress.com...returned-home/

Ondanks alles meen ik te weten dat mevrouw opnieuw in Jeddah woont (recent interview). tip: Als U haar bezoekt, ze is stapelgek op dadels.

[zonbron]

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De afweging die ik maak gaat niet over Islam <==> de VS
En leg mij geen woorden in de mond aub, ik ben geen islamofoob.
Ik heb niets tegen sjiieten, ik heb niets tegen 90% van de sunni's die het salafisme of wahabisme gelukkig niet aanhangen en als normale burgers leven. Ik heb enkel iets tegen salafisten en barbaarse regimes waar men mensen amputeert, stenigt, decapiteert enz.

Er bestaat zeer zeker een gematigde en een extreme vorm van islam. Vergeet niet dat de grondlegger van het wahabisme , Mohammed ibn Abdul-Wahhab, zijn extremistische visie op wat volgens hem de 'ware' islam is slechts in 1736 heeft geschreven. Hij heeft succes gehad, omdat hij zich associeerde met Mohammed Bin Saoud, die toen aan zijn veroveringstocht begon in wat we later zullen kennen als Saoudi Arabië. Koppel drang naar macht samen met een uitgesproken wil tot prediking en je krijgt een winner. Dat komt omdat ibn abdul wahhab een heeel efficiënt truukje heeft uitgevonden. Met name zijn stelling dat iedereen die niet bereid is de ander tot ongelovige te bestempelen zelf een ongelovige is. Dat zet natuurlijk de deur open om mensen totaal te indoctrineren en te domineren, aangezien de straf voor afvalligen en ongelovigen de doodstraf is.
De slimmerik consolideerde zijn positie door te huwen met bin Saoud zijn dochter en vanaf dan was hij onaantastbaar.
Het resultaat zien we tot op heden

Zijn moeder had ibn-abdul wahhab direct na de geboorte beter op de mesthoop gesmeten, de wereld zou er nu veel beter uitzien. Wie weet was SA dan nu een land met gematigde moslims, en zou de wetenschap daar nog aanwezig zijn en niet enkel het dogma. Dan zouden al de honderden kunstvoorwerpen en oude tempels er in SA nog staan in plaats van systematisch vernietigd te zijn door de wahabieten.

Idd. Die had men beter bij het groot huisvuil gezet.


Genomen uit:

http://forum.politics.be/showpost.ph...5&postcount=16

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U bedoelt convenient lies van de zionisten dus. Leugens !

Dit is de daadwerkelijke inconvenient truth voor jullie...

<sub>As indicated in “The Rothchilds, Winston Churchill and the Final Solution”, by Clifford Shack, No naval issue would affect Britain’s foreign policy more than the crucial debate whether or not the Royal Navy should be converted from coal propulsion to oil.[4] Oil was not only superior to coal, but the French branch of the Rothschilds were, together with the Rockefellers, supreme rulers of the oil business, having entered into a world cartel with Standard Oil.

Lord Nathaniel Mayer Rothschild was a keen proponent of increases in the strength of the Royal Navy, for in 1888, the London house of Rothschild had issued shares worth £225,000 for the Naval Construction and Armaments Company. However, in order to provide the pretext to legitimize Britain’s increased spending for naval construction, the Rothschilds fabricated the threat of Germany’s naval build-up in the late nineteenth century. On July 1, 1911, Kaiser Wilhelm, a Rothschild front-man, sent a gunboat, called the Panther, steaming into the harbor at Agadir, on the Atlantic coast of Morocco, which was perceived as a direct challenge to British global positions.

Nathaniel Rothschild was an intimate friend of Lord Randolph Churchill, the father of Winston Churchill, who immediately after the Agadir crisis, was appointed First Lord of the Admiralty.[5] Churchill vowed to do everything he could to prepare Britain militarily for the “inescapable day of reckoning”. His charge was to ensure that the Royal Navy, the symbol of Britain’s imperial power, was to meet the German “challenge” on the high seas. According to Daniel Yergin’s Pulitzer prize winning book, The Prize: The Epic Quest for Oil, Money and Power:

One of the most important and contentious questions he faced was seemingly technical in nature, but would in fact have vast implications for the twentieth century. The issue was whether to convert the British Navy to oil for its power source, in place of coal, which was the traditional fuel. Many thought that such a conversion was pure folly, for it meant that the Navy could no longer rely on safe, secure Welsh coal, but rather would have to depend on distant and insecure oil supplies from Persia, as Iran was then known.[6]

British Navy

The importance of guaranteeing a supply of oil for Britain’s navy had assumed centre stage, as oil had not yet been discovered in its Arab possessions in the Gulf. On June 17, 1914, Churchill introduced a bill proposing that the British government invest in an oil company, after which it acquired 51 percent of Anglo-Persian, which in actuality was already partially-owned by the British government, and was financed in part by the Rothschilds bank. Britain had acquired its first oil concession, and kept its involvement secret. By the summer of 1914, the British Navy was fully committed to oil and the British government had assumed the role of majority stockholder in Anglo-Persian. The company grew rapidly, first into Anglo-Iranian, and then finally into British Petroleum, or BP.

Anglo-Persian was not to be Britain’s sole supplier of oil, as Churchill stated to Parliament in 1913, “On no one quality, on no one process, on no one country, on no one route and on no one field must we be dependent. Safety and certainty in oil lie in variety, and variety alone.”[7][b] Germany had already expanded toward Turkey and South into Africa. But, Germany’s move eastward was restricted by Britain’s control of important sea lanes. Therefore, Germany struck a deal with the Ottoman Empire to build a railway from Berlin to Baghdad. The Round Table was especially alarmed about this agreement, as it would provide direct German access to the Middle East oil, bypassing the Suez Canal controlled by the British. Britain had earlier precluded extension of the railway to the Persian Gulf by secretly concluding an agreement with the Sabah clan, of Kuwait, another family of secret Jews, related to the Saudis through the Anza tribe, to establish Kuwait as a “British protectorate”, thus effectively sealing it off from the Ottoman Empire.</sub>


Uit bovenstaande :

Britain had earlier precluded extension of the railway to the Persian Gulf by secretly concluding an agreement with the Sabah clan, of Kuwait, another family of secret Jews, related to the Saudis through the Anza tribe, to establish Kuwait as a “British protectorate”, thus effectively sealing it off from the Ottoman Empire.

Dus : De Sabah clan, van Koeweit, een andere familie van cryptojoden, die via de Anza stam in direct verband staan met het Huis van Saoed (cryptojodendom, geen moslims dus)

True Democracy - The Saudi Royal Family Are Crypto-Jews

By Abdulaziz Saud

THE SAUDI DYNASTY: FROM WHERE IS IT? AND WHO IS THE REAL ANCESTOR OF THIS FAMILY?

RESEARCH AND PRESENTATION OF: MOHAMMAD SAKHER , who was ordered killed by the Saudi Regime for the following findings:

1. Are the Saudi Family members belonging to the Tribe of ANZA BEN WA'EL as they allege to be?

2. Is Islam their actual religion?

3. Are they of an ARAB ORIGIN at all?

In the year 851 A.H. a group of men from AL MASALEEKH CLAN, which was a branch of ANZA Tribe, formed a caravan for buying cereals (wheat and corn) and other food stuff from IRAQ, and transporting it back to NAJD. The head of that group was a man called SAHMI BIN HATHLOOL. The caravan reached BASRA, where the members of the group went to a cereal merchant who was a Jew, Called MORDAKHAI BIN IBRAHIM BIN MOSHE'. During their bargaining with that merchant, the Jew asked them : "Where are you from?" They answered: "From ANZA TRIBE; a clan of AL MASALEEKH." Upon hearing that name, the Jew started to hug so affectionately each one of them saying that he, himself, was also from the clan of AL MASALEEKH, but he had come to reside in BASRA (IRAQ) in consequence to a family feud between his father and some members of ANZA Tribe.

After he recounted to them his fabricated narrative, he ordered his servants to load all the camels of the clan's members with wheat, dates and tamman; a remarkable deed so generous that astonished the MASALEEKH men and aroused their pride to find such an affectionate (cousin) in IRAQ- the source of their sustenance; they believed each word he said , and , because he was a rich merchant of the food commodities which they were badly in need, they liked him (even though he was a Jew concealed under the garb of an Arab from AL MASALEEKH clan).

When the caravan was ready to depart returning to NAJD, that Jewish Merchant asked them to accept his company, because he intended to go with them to his original homeland, NAJD. Upon hearing that from him, they wholeheartedly welcomed him with a very cheerful attitude.

So that (concealed) Jew reached NAJD with the caravan. In NAJD, he started to promulgate a lot of propaganda for himself through his companions (his alleged cousins), a fact, which gathered around him a considerable number of new supporters; but, unexpectedly, he confronted a campaign of opposition to his views led by SHEIKH SALEH SALMAN ABDULLA AL TAMIMI, who was a Muslem religious preacher in AL-QASEEM. The radius of his preaching area included Najd, Yemen, and Hijaz, a fact which compelled the Jew (the Ancestor of the present SAUDI FAMILY to depart from AL QASEEM to AL IHSA, where he changed his name (MORDAKHAI) To MARKHAN BIN IBRAHIM MUSA. Then he changed the location of his residence and settled at a place called DIR'IYA near AL-QATEEF, where he started to spread among the inhabitants a fabricated story about the shield of our Prophet MOHAMMAD (p.b.u.h), that it was taken as a booty by an Arab Pagan in consequence of OHOD Battle between the Arab pagans and the Muslems. "That shield, he said, was sold by the Arab Pagan to a Jewish Clan called BANU QUNAIQA' who preserved it as a treasure! He gradually enhanced his position among the Bedouins through such stories which indicated how the Jewish clans in Arabia were so influential and deserved high esteem. He gained some personal importance among the Bedouins, and decided to settle permanently there, at DIR'IYA town, near AL QATEEF, which he decided to be his (Capital) on the Persian Gulf. He aspired to make it his spring board for establishing a Jewish Kingdom in Arabia.

In order to fulfill his ambitious scheme, he started to approach the desert Arab Bedouins for support of his position, then gradually, he declared himself as their king!

At that juncture, AJAMAN Tribe together with BANU KHALED Tribe became fully aware of that Jewish cunning plan after they had verified his true identity, and decided to put an end to him. They attacked his town and conquered it, but before arresting him he had escaped by the skin of his teeth.

That Jewish Ancestor of the SAUDI FAMILY, (MORDAKHAI), sought shelter in a farm called at that time AL-MALIBEED-GHUSAIBA near AL-ARID, which is called at our present time : AL-RIYADH.

He requested the owner of that farm to grant him an asylum. The farmer was so hospitable that he immediately gave him sanctuary. But that Jew (MORDAKHAI), no longer than a month had he stayed there, when he assassinated the land lord and all members of his family, pretending that all were killed by an invading band of thieves. Then he pretended that he had bought that real estate from them before that catastrophe happened to them! Accordingly, he had the right to reside there as a land lord. He then gave a new name to that place: He named it AL-DIRIYA - the same name as that he had lost.

That Jewish Ancestor of the SAUDI FAMILY (MORDAKHAI), was quick to establish a "GUEST HOUSE" called "MADAFFA" on the land he usurped from his victims, and gathered around him a group of hypocrites who started to spread out false propaganda for him that he was a prominent Arab Sheikh. He plotted against Sheikh SALEH SALMAN ABDULLA AL TAMIMI, his original enemy, and caused his assassination in the mosque of the town called (AL-ZALAFI).

After that, he felt satisfied and safe to make (AL-DIRIYA) his permanent home. There he practiced polygamy at a wide scale, and indeed, he begot a lot of children whom he gave pure Arab names.

Ever since his descendants grew up in number and power under the name of SAUDI CLAN, they have followed his steps in practicing under ground activities and conspiracies against the Arab Nation. They illegally seized rural sectors and farm lands, and assassinated every person who tried to oppose their evil plans. They used all kinds of deceit for reaching their goals: they bought the conscience of their dissidents; they offered their women and money to influential people in that area, particularly to those who started to write the true biography of that Jewish Family; they bribed writers of history in order to purify their ignominious history, and make their lineage related to the most prominent Arab Tribes such as RABI'A, ANZA, and ALMASALEEKH.

A conspicuous hypocrite in our era whose name is MOHAMMAD AMIN AL TAMIMI- Director/Manager of the contemporary Libraries of the SAUDI KINGDOM, made up a genealogical tree (FAMILY TREE) for this JEWISH FAMILY (THE SAUDIS), connecting them to our Great Prophet, MOHAMMAD (P.B.U.H). For his false work, he received a reward of 35 (THIRTY FIVE) THOUSAND EYPTIAN POUNDS from the then SAUDI AMBASSADOR TO CAIRO, EGYPT, in the year 1362 AH.- 1943 A.D. The name of that Ambassador is: IBRAHIM AL-FADEL.

As aforementioned, the Jewish Ancestor of the SAUDI FAMILY, (MORDAKHAI), practiced polygamy by marrying a lot of Arab women and begot many children; his polygamous practice is, at the present time, being carried out " to the letter" by his descendants; they cling to his marital heritage!

One of MORDAKHAI'S sons called AL-MAQARAN, arabized from the Jewish root (MACK-REN) begot a son called Mohammad, then another son called SAUD, which is the name of the present day SAUDI DYNASTY.

Descendants of SAUD (the present day SAUDI FAMILY )started a campaign of assassination of the prominent leaders of the Arab Tribes under the pretence that those leaders were apostates; renegading from the Islamic Religion, and deserting their Koranic doctrines; so they deserved the SAUDI condemnation and slaughter!

Their hideous Jewish Family has, in fact, done all that kind of atrocities in the name of their false religious sect (the Wahabi), which was actually invented by a Jew so as to sow the seeds of terror in the hearts of people in towns and villages. This Jewish Dynasty has been committing such brutal atrocities ever since 1163 A.H. They have named the whole Arabian Peninsula after their family name (SAUDI ARABIA) as if the whole region is their own personal real estate, and that all other inhabitants are their mere servants or slaves, toiling day and night for the pleasure of their masters (THE SAUDI FAMILY).

They are completely holding the natural wealth of the country as their own property. If any poor person from the common people raises his/her voice complaining against any of the despotic rules of this Jewish Dynasty, (the Dynasty) cuts off his/her head in the public square. A princess of theirs once visited FLORIDA, USA, with her retinue; she rented 90 (NINETY) Suite rooms in a Grand Hotel for about One Million Dollars a night! Can anyone of their subjects comment about that extravagant event? If he/she does, his/her fate is quite known: DEATH WITH THE EDGE OF THE SAUDI SWORD IN THE PUBLIC SQUARE!!!!!!

Witnesses on the Jewish Ancestry of this Saudi Family:

In the 1960's the "SAWT AL ARAB" Broadcasting Station in Cairo, Egypt, and the YEMEN Broadcasting Station in SANA'A confirmed the Jewish Ancestry of the SAUDI Family.

King FAISAL AL-SAUD at that time could not deny his family's kindred with the JEWS when he declared to the WASHINGTON POST on September 17, 1969 stating: "WE, THE SAUDI FAMILY, are cousins of the Jews: we entirely disagree with any Arab or Muslem [sic] Authority which shows any antagonism to the Jews; but we must live together with them in peace. Our country (ARABIA) is the Fountain head from where the first Jew sprang, and his descendants spread out all over the world." That was the declaration of KING FAISAL AL-SAUD BIN ABDUL AZIZ!!!!!

HAFEZ WAHBI, The SAUDI Legal Adviser, mentioned in his book entitled: "THE PENINSULA OF ARABIA" that KING ABDUL AZIZ AL-SAUD, who died in 1953, had said : "Our Message (SAUDI MESSAGE) encountered the opposition of all Arab Tribes; my grandfather, SAUD AWAL, once imprisoned a number of the Sheikhs of MATHEER Tribe; and when another group of the same tribe came to intercede for the release of the prisoners, SAUD AWAL gave orders to his men to cut off the heads of all the prisoners, then, he wanted to humiliate and derogate the interceders by inviting them to eat from a banquet he prepared from the cooked flesh of his victims whose cut off heads he placed on the top of the food platters!! The interceders became so alarmed and declined to eat the flesh of their relatives; and, because of their refusal to eat, he ordered his men to cut off their heads too. That hideous crime was committed by that self imposed king to innocent people whose guilt was their opposition to his most cruel and extremely despotic rules.

HAFEZ WAHBI, states further that King ABDUL AZIZ AL-SAUD related that bloody true story to the Sheikhs of the MATHEER Tribe, who visited him in order to intercede for their prominent leader at that time, FAISAL AL DARWEESH, who was the king's prisoner. He related that story to them in order to prevent them from interceding for the release of their Sheikh; otherwise, they would face the same fate; He killed the Sheikh and used his blood as an ablution liquid for him just before he stood up for his prayer (after the false sect doctrine of the Wahabi); The guilt of FAISAL DARWEESH at that time was that he had criticized King ABDUL AZIZ AL-SAUD when the king signed the document which the English Authorities prepared in 1922 as a declaration for giving PALESTINE to the Jews; his signature was obtained in the conference held at AL AQEER in 1922.

That was and still is the system of this Regime of the JEWISH FAMILY (SAUDI FAMILY): All its goals are: plundering the wealth of the country, robbing, falsifying, and committing all kinds of atrocity, iniquity, and blasphemy-all are executed in compliance with their self invented Wahabi Sect which legalizes the chopping of the heads of their opposing subjects.

Over inconvinient truth gesproken...

@maddox slaagt de nagel op de kop, het Huis van Saoed bestaat niet uit moslims...


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JEWISH CONTROL OF SAUDI ARABIA

The DONMEH part 2: House of Saud Connections - The Dönmeh: The Middle East’s Most Whispered Secret (Part II)

<sub>Ibn Saud, the descendant of Dönmeh from Basra, responded: “Yes, if my acknowledgement means so much to you, I acknowledge thousand times granting a homeland to the Jews in Palestine or other than Palestine.” Two years later, British Foreign Secretary Lord Balfour, in a letter to Baron Walter Rothschild, a leader of the British Zionists, stated: “His Majesty’s government view with favor the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people . . .” The deal had the tacit backing of two of the major players in the region, both descendant from Dönmeh Jews who supported the Zionist cause, Kemal Ataturk and Ibn Saud. The present situation in the Middle East should be seen in this light but the history of the region has been purged by certain religious and political interests for obvious reasons.

After World War I, the British facilitated the coming to power of the Saud regime in the former Hejaz and Nejd provinces of the Ottoman Empire. The Sauds established Wahhabism as the state religion of the new Kingdom of Saudi Arabia and, like the Kemalist Dönmeh in Turkey, began to move against other Islamic beliefs and sects, including the Sunnis and Shi’as. The Wahhabi Sauds accomplished what the Kemalist Dönmeh were able to achieve in Turkey: a fractured Middle East that was ripe for Western imperialistic designs and laid the groundwork for the creation of the Zionist state of Israel.</sub>


Gezien deze "speciale relatie" die het Huis van Saoed heeft met het Westen is het artikel waarnaar verwezen wordt in de OP perfect begrijpbaar.

Tevens kunnen we nu begrijpen waarom het Huis van Saoed AQ, het Wahhabisme, Salafisme, de terreur/terroristen in Syrie en de algemene versplintering van de Arabische wereld steunt... Ze haten moslims en de zogenaamde Moslimbroederschap zullen de job afwerken.

Arabische Lente ? Right !

[SDX]

Nog zo 'n voorbeeld van iemand die mohamedaanse speelt in de westerse wereld, kritiek gevende op iets wat volgens hen/haar niet de "echte" islam is, beschermd door westerse wetten.

[Wautd]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Guinevere

Elke mens wordt in de islam als een pure moslim geboren.

Nope, religie wordt door de ouders van het kind geprogrammeerd wanneer het oud genoeg is om te leren maar nog niet oud genoeg om kritisch na te denken. Mocht je in Israël geboren zijn was je nu waarschijnlijk een fundamentalistische jood, in Texas een fundamentalistische evangelist of in India een fundamentalistische hindoe.
Indien afvalligheid in de Islam niet zo streng werd bestraft (soms t/m de doodstraf) dan was dit geloof waarschijnlijk al lang uitgestorven (en dat geven zelfs extremistische imams toe)
Ik zie het eerder als bewijs van de zwakte van het geloof

[Thuleander]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Wautd

Indien afvalligheid in de Islam niet zo streng werd bestraft (soms t/m de doodstraf) dan was dit geloof waarschijnlijk al lang uitgestorven

Slim gezien dus van de islam om de murtadeen zo streng te bestraffen.

Ik zie het eerder als bewijs van de zwakte van het geloof

Zij (moslims) zien Westerse/christelijke 'tolerantie' dan weer als zwakte.