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Israëlisch-Palestijns conflict Oktober 2023 was het begin van een nieuw conflict. Hamas strijders vielen Israël binnen waarop het Israëlische leger reageerde met bombardementen. Alle discussies over dit conflict en het verdere verloop ervan, horen thuis in dit (sub)forum. |
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![]() Extreem links en de klimaatmeisjes in dienst van de Ayatollah's en Arabische koningen. Gekker moet het niet worden.
In 2029 worden de Olympische winterspelen gehouden in..... Saoedi Arabië, waar men nu sneeuwpistes gaat aanleggen in de woestijn. Zou Extinction rebellion zich daar gaan vastlijmen denk je ? Sorry voor de offtopic.
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![]() Hoe is het zover kunnen komen? Het Israëlisch-Palestijns conflict in 6 scharnierpunten
Het conflict sleept al 75 jaar aan. Vrede was ooit binnen handbereik, maar lijkt nu verder dan ooit. ![]() Is er een oplossing of zal één van beiden volledig plat moeten? En sommigen gokken dan op einde GAZA-strook ondanks er velen voor opkomen levende met de gedachte dat het daar wel meer dan welletjes geweest is. ![]()
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Ik citeer Confucius: Als straffen niet op de juiste wijze worden opgelegd, weten de mensen niet waar ze aan toe zijn. ![]() Ook citeer ik A. Einstein met graagte: Bidden verandert de wereld niet, maar bidden verandert de mens en de mens verandert de wereld. Laatst gewijzigd door Universalia : 13 november 2023 om 17:09. |
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![]() Het gaat niet om 2 gekkies. De post waarop je reageerde had er al minstens 4. Je moet niet alleen naar de prentjes kijken hee. Je kunt ook op de linkjes klikken. En de voorbeelden zijn te talrijk om hier allemaal te plaatsen. _____ Neem nu paragliders: https://twitter.com/SirJamesNiner/st...13802095051136 ![]() https://twitter.com/JamesKingDublin/...39431796523426 ![]() _____ Of neem nu dit: wat gebeurt er wanneer je protesteert tegen Hamas in een betoging die zogenaamd niet pro Hamas is? Wel, je wordt aangevallen door de meutes pro Hamas "betogers" rondom jou die zogenaamd niet pro Hamas zijn. Dat gebeurde vorig weekend. En dat gebeurde ook het weekend ervoor. _____ Meer voorbeelden van pro Hamas, pro terreur en pro genocide uitingen in die betogingen zijn onder andere te vinden in deze krantenartikels: London protesters 'glorify Hamas terror attack on Israel' 'The continuing existence of Israel is a war crime': Pro-Palestinian protesters reveal what they really think as they call Hamas 'freedom fighters' ahead of Armistice Day march _____ Genoeg over de gewone betogers. Laten we eens kijken naar de organisatoren van die marsen in Londen die zogenaamd niet pro Hamas zijn. Wat blijkt? Wel, drie van de zes groepen hebben aantoonbare banden met Hamas: Former Hamas chief ‘behind pro-Palestine Armistice Day protests’ Citaat:
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![]() Hier het volledige artikel over de Hamas banden van de organisatoren:
Former Hamas chief ‘behind pro-Palestine Armistice Day protests’ https://archive.ph/fePln ___________________________ Muhammad Kathem Sawalha is a founder of the Muslim Association of Britain, one of six groups organising the London march on Nov 11 By Ewan Somerville and Daniel Martin, Deputy Political Editor 6 November 2023 A former Hamas chief is behind one of the groups organising the pro-Palestine Armistice Day protests, The Telegraph can disclose. Muhammad Kathem Sawalha led the proscribed terrorist group in the West Bank in the late 1980s and is alleged to have “masterminded” its military strategy with involvement as recently as 2019, before moving to Britain where he lives in a London council house. He is a founder of the Muslim Association of Britain (MAB), one of six groups behind the under-fire march in London on November 11, and Israeli authorities claim his son, Obada Sawalha, is now its vice-president. The revelation comes as The Telegraph has discovered that half of the groups organising the march - who are still defying calls from the Metropolitan Police to call it off - have links to Hamas. It has fuelled further pressure for it to be cancelled, with the chairman of the all-party parliamentary group (APPG) on anti-Semitism saying that it “proves that these marches are not about peace” and the Campaign Against Anti-Semitism describing this newspaper’s findings as “extremely serious”. Sawalha, 62, worked as a director for MAB between 1999 and 2007 and helped found it, after being granted British citizenship in the early 2000s. BBC’s Panorama claimed in 2006 that he was “said to have masterminded much of Hamas’ political and military strategy”. He now lives in a council house in Barnet, north London, but in 2004 he was named as a co-conspirator in a US indictment for having allegedly helped bankroll Hamas and he reportedly took part in an official Hamas delegation to Moscow in 2019 and served on the Hamas politburo between 2013 and 2017. Another of the Muslim Association of Britain’s three directors, Dr Anas Altikriti, co-founded a group called the British Muslim Initiative with a senior commander in Hamas, Mohammed Sawalha, and Azzam Tamimi who has been described as a Hamas “special envoy” in Britain. Dr Altikriti, who has lectured at Leeds University, has written columns for The Guardian defending how “Hamas supports democracy” and insisting that “the Palestinian people have chosen” Hamas “to represent them”. A British Government review in 2015 claimed that the MAB, founded in 1997, had been “dominated” by the Muslim Brotherhood, a controversial group that the report found had made “support for Hamas” an “important priority”. Hamas’ founding charter says that it is the Palestinian branch of the Muslim Brotherhood and the Government has said association with the group is a “possible indicator of extremism”. Meanwhile, Zaher Birawi, a leader of the Palestinian Forum in Britain - another group organising the Armistice Day march - was described in Parliament in October by Labour MP Christian Wakeford as having been “designated by Israel in 2013 as a senior Hamas operative in Europe”, currently living in Barnet, north London, not far from Sawalhi, posing what the MP described as “a serious national security risk”. He also allegedly met Hamas’ senior political leader Ismail Haniyeh in Gaza in 2012 and was pictured with him. A third group organising the protest, the Friends of al-Aqsa is founded and chaired by Leicester-based optician Ismael Patel who has also visited Haniyeh in Gaza and has joined the Gaza flotilla. According to the Meir Amit Intelligence and Terrorism Information Center, the Friends of al-Aqsa is “harbouring an intense hatred for Israel, campaigning for its elimination, denying its Jewish character, and supporting Hamas”. According to the Jewish Chronicle, he was filmed at a rally in 2009 saying: “Hamas is no terrorist organisation. The reason they hate Hamas is because they refuse to be subjugated, to be occupied by the Israeli state, and we salute Hamas for standing up to Israel.” Responding to The Telegraph’s findings, Andrew Percy, APPG on anti-Semitism, said: “The involvement of these people proves that these marches are not about peace, they are about stirring up Jew-hate and a hatred of Western values. “They are organised to celebrate the murder of innocent civilians in the most grotesque ways, including ripping out babies from pregnant mothers, cutting off limbs of children and worse still. These people have no interest in peace and it is time the UK stopped indulging their hateful ideology.” Calling on the police to step in and ban the march, Mr Percy added: “The Met need to prove that they are here to defend the values of the majority in this country - not pander to a perverted ideology - by banning this hate march.” The Campaign Against Antisemitism said: “These findings are extremely serious, and demand investigation by the authorities. Is it any wonder at the level of anti-Semitic hatred and calls for violence that we have seen at these marches if these are the organisers? “These revelations are all the more reason for the Met Police to heed our call and ban this weekend’s march. London cannot become a no-go zone for British Jews, yet again, on Armistice Day. What a disgrace that would be to the heroes who fought for our freedom to leave without fear.” The Community Security Trust told The Telegraph: “On October 7, Hamas finally achieved its long-stated intention to kill as many Jews as possible. “This barbarism did not cause any change or hesitation in the actions of anti-Israel hate groups, which continue now, exactly as they always do: with calls that most Jews regard as demands for the destruction of Israel, even if they are couched in ways that just about remain within the law.” The Muslim Association of Britain, the Palestinian Forum in Britain and the Friends of al-Aqsa have been contacted for comment. |
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Former Hamas chief ‘behind pro-Palestine Armistice Day protests’ https://archive.ph/fePln ________________________ Muhammad Kathem Sawalha ![]() Muhammad Kathem Sawalha served as a senior Hamas military official in Samaria in the West Bank in the late 1980s, during the period of the banned terror group's founding, before fleeing to the UK in the late 1990s where he obtained British citizenship after being placed on Israel's wanted list. The 62-year-old helped found the Muslim Association of Britain, one of six groups organising the Armistice Day march, in 1997 before directing it for almost a decade. According to Companies House, Obada Sawalha is now a current director at the group and Israel's Ministry of Strategic Affairs says he is his son. Now living in a council house in Barnet, north London, the US Department of Justice named him as a co-conspirator in the 2004 indictment of Muhammad Salah, alleging that Sawalha continued to work for Hamas and help finance their activities in Gaza. In August 1992, he met with fellow agents to discuss “the need to revitalise Hamas terrorist operations in the West Bank”, according to the indictment. Israeli authorities say he was involved in organizing flotillas and convoys to the Gaza Strip between 2009 and 2010 and said in an interview in January 2010 of an upcoming convoy: “Next time, the confrontation will be directly with the Zionist enemy itself on the high seas.” BBC Panorama said in 2006 that although he was known to MI5, the “authorities let him operate freely here” in Britain, where Hamas began being proscribed as a terror group in 2001. Dr Anas Altikriti ![]() Dr Anas Altikriti is listed on Companies House as a director of the Muslim Association of Britain since 2018. He is also the chief executive and founder of The Cordoba Foundation, which the then-leader of the opposition David Cameron told the Commons in 2009 is a UK front for the Islamist group Muslim Brotherhood, of which Hamas is an offshoot. As well as visiting Hamas's current leader, he has also allegedly visited the anti-Semitic preacher Yusuf al-Qaradawi in Qatar and is the son of Osama Al-Tikriti, a Muslim Brotherhood leader in Iraq. He responded to Rishi Sunak's call for an Armistice Day protest ban by saying "it's actually quite appropriate and extremely poignant" for them to march on November 11. Zaher Birawi ![]() A leader of the Palestinian Forum in Britain, another of the six groups organising the march, Zaher Birawi has reportedly been photographed with both the Hamas leader Haniyeh and the former Hamas military chief Mahmoud Zahar. Last year, he submitted evidence to Parliament on behalf of the group insisting that he supported "peaceful means to advocate for an end to Israeli occupation". But Labour MP Christian Wakeford claimed in Parliament that Birawi was "a senior Hamas operative". The Israeli Meir Amit intelligence centre has claimed that "he has extensive experience in dispatching flotillas from Europe to the Gaza Strip with the stated aim of “breaking the siege” of the Gaza Strip". Ismael Patel ![]() An optician who lives in Leicester, Ismael Patel founded and chairs the Friends of al-Aqsa, another of the six groups organising the march. He has reportedly attacked the Board of Deputies for “bringing shame” on Jews by supporting Israel. In 2021, he was among the speakers at an online conference titled 'The scholars’ speech to those steadfast in Al-Aqsa', where the speakers included a speaker on the sanctions list of the UN Security Council for providing financial support to Al-Qaeda in Iraq. Patel's speech made reference to the “honoured guests and Imams on the platform,” before discussing Friends of Al-Aqsa’s role in arranging the lobbying of MPs. Friends of Al-Aqsa (FOA) is an anti-Israeli NGO established in Britain in 1997 and Israel's state-linked Meir Amit Intelligence and Terrorism Information Center says he is "actively involved in projects carried out as part of the delegitimisation campaign against Israel". |
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![]() Nu nog even de bewijzen leveren voor jouw beschuldigingen aan het adres van Tommy Robinson, EL:
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![]() Confrontatie tussen witte Engelstalige Israel supporters en pro Palestina Afrikaanstalige in Kaapstad.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEjFT6hlKXY Citaat:
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Ik heb jou ondertussen een overvloed aan voorbeelden gegeven van pro-terreur en pro-genocide uitingen in het pallie-kamp dat jij hier dag in dag uit zit te bewieroken. Kom je nog met bewijzen voor je lasterlijke leugens jegens Robinson of trek je je keutel in? Laatst gewijzigd door vanderzapig : 13 november 2023 om 17:36. |
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![]() Ronse ligt ook in de wereld. (cfr de draadtitel)
De lokale forumreporter van dat "stadje" moet nog verslag uitbrengen. Klopt het dat het er 500 waren, die daar pro palestina betoogden? En hoe was de sfeer? Nogal Franstalig zeker? 500 stond in de gazet. Voor zo'n klein lapje grond. Hoeveel inwoners, Panda?
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![]() Jakarta Mogelijk twee miljoen mensen op straat steun betuigend aan Palestina.
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![]() Mooiste fittie nog tussen Greta Thunberg en een andere klimaatgek Erjan Dam.
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![]() En, Eberhard, ben jij Palestijn?
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![]() Zo nee: waarom maken jullie je beide dan zo druk om dit conflictje?
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