De grote 9/11 topic

[Micele]

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duizenden ECHTE specialisten ter zake volgen het commissie rapport

PopularmechanicsDixiecontrol.

[Johnny Blaze]

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je mag tig keer dezelfde onzin plaatsen die reeds evenveel keer is gedebunked
de realiteit is dat de 9/11 commissie het bij het juiste eind heeft!
http://www.popularmechanics.com/tech...y/news/1227842

Je praat over onzin en dan kom je af met popular mechanics?

Dit gaat mijn petje ten boven

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VIDEO 9/11 Blueprint for Truth presented by Architect Richard Gage, AIA

Gage kennen we al langer als vandaag , met zijn zogenaamde grote groep wetenschappers.
Inhoudelijk is alles wat hij zegt rubbish! figuren die gage z'n theoriën ondersteunen zijn zeer zeldzaam wanneer je even kijkt naar het totale aantal wetenschappers met kennis van zake die er anders over denken.

Het commission report is als het gaat om wetenschap irrelevant ! en ook nooit bedoeld als wetenschappelijk werk.

[Dixie]

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Je praat over onzin en dan kom je af met popular mechanics?

Dit gaat mijn petje ten boven

niet erg de waarheid gaat jouw petje zowiezo te boven daarom dat je de fabeltjes van de truthers blijft geloven

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Dus volgens jou is de mening van deze 9 researchers/reporters en 70 "onbekende" professionals van dit boekje meer waard dan die van meer dan 1000 architecten en ingenieurs... Dat noem ik pas ONZIN.

die 1000 architecten en ingenieurs zijn allemaal lieden uit het verkeerde vakgebied, controleer maar eens wie het allemaal zijn.

Heeft u enig idee hoeveel onderzoek er verricht is wereldwijd??

Uit dat artikel...
"Melted" Steel
Claim: "We have been lied to," announces the Web site AttackOnAmerica.net. "The first lie was that the load of fuel from the aircraft was the cause of structural failure. No kerosene fire can burn hot enough to melt steel." The posting is entitled "Proof Of Controlled Demolition At The WTC."

FACT: Jet fuel burns at 800° to 1500°F, not hot enough to melt steel (2750°F). However, experts agree that for the towers to collapse, their steel frames didn't need to melt, they just had to lose some of their structural strength—and that required exposure to much less heat. "I have never seen melted steel in a building fire," says retired New York deputy fire chief Vincent Dunn, author of The Collapse Of Burning Buildings: A Guide To Fireground Safety."

Wel straf dan dat men onder het puin men lang na het instorten nog steeds vloeibaar staal vond...

In dit topic is nagenoeg alles gedebunked. Nog even als voorbeeld:
NIST heeft helemaal nooit beweert dat er staal gesmolten zou zijn door jet-fuel!! bovenstaande redenering is dus totaal onzinnig.

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Via hier zijn 1381 9/11 gerelateerde onderzoeken te vinden

http://www.911investigations.net/

[Dixie]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YXzjAKJQOg
vooral bij 1m45s het 'molten steel' wordt verplaatst
Steveke de leugenaar!

[zonbron]

Misschien was het gesmolten goud en zilver, dat verdwenen is...

A King's Ransom in Precious Metals Seems to Have Disappeared

Comex metals trading - 3,800 gold bars weighing 12 tonnes and worth more than $100 million
Comex clients - 800,000 ounces of gold with a value of about $220 million
Comex clients - 102 million ounces of silver, worth $430 million
Bank of Nova Scotia - $200 million of gold

http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/evidence/gold.html

Persisting Heat

Fires in the Rubble Persisted for Months


Fires continued to burn far down in the rubble piles for over 100 days after the attack, despite the spraying of water on the rubble for extended periods. 1 The temperatures inside the rubble piles can only be estimated.

Reports of Molten Metal

Reports of molten metal in the foundations of the Twin Towers and Building 7 have been noted in the literature of skeptics of the official account of the building collapses. None of the official government reports have commented on these reports, although FEMA's Report contained an appendix disclosing evidence of mysterious high temperature corrosion of steel

http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/evid...bblefires.html

Corroborating Reports

There are reports of molten steel beyond those cited by American Free Press. Most of these have come to light as a result of a research paper by Professor Steven E Jones, which has stimulated interest in the subject of molten steel at Ground Zero. *

A report by Waste Age describes New York Sanitation Department workers moving "everything from molten steel beams to human remains." 2

A report on the Government Computer News website quotes Greg Fuchek, vice president of sales for LinksPoint Inc. as stating:

In the first few weeks, sometimes when a worker would pull a steel beam from the wreckage, the end of the beam would be dripping molten steel 3
A Messenger-Inquirer report recounts the experiences of Bronx firefighter "Toolie" O'Toole, who stated that some of the beams lifted from deep within the catacombs of Ground Zero by cranes were "dripping from the molten steel." 4

A transcription of an audio interview of Ground Zero chaplain Herb Trimpe contains the following passage:

When I was there, of course, the remnants of the towers were still standing. It looked like an enormous junkyard. A scrap metal yard, very similar to that. Except this was still burning. There was still fire. On the cold days, even in January, there was a noticeable difference between the temperature in the middle of the site than there was when you walked two blocks over on Broadway. You could actually feel the heat.

It took me a long time to realize it and I found myself actually one day wanting to get back. Why? Because I felt more comfortable. I realized it was actually warmer on site. The fires burned, up to 2,000 degrees, underground for quite a while before they actually got down to those areas and they cooled off.

I talked to many contractors and they said they actually saw molten metal trapped, beams had just totally had been melted because of the heat. So this was the kind of heat that was going on when those airplanes hit the upper floors. It was just demolishing heat. 5
A report in the Johns Hopkins Public Health Magazine about recovery work in late October quotes Alison Geyh, Ph.D., as stating:

Fires are still actively burning and the smoke is very intense. In some pockets now being uncovered, they are finding molten steel. 6
A publication by the National Environmental Health Association quotes Ron Burger, a public health advisor at the National Center for Environmental Health, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, who arrived at Ground Zero on the evening of September 12th. Burger stated:

Feeling the heat, seeing the molten steel, the layers upon layers of ash, like lava, it reminded me of Mt. St. Helen’s and the thousands who fled that disaster. 7
An article in The Newsletter of the Structural Engineers Association of Utah describing a speaking appearance by Leslie Robertson (structural engineer responsible for the design of the World Trade Center) contains this passage:

As of 21 days after the attack, the fires were still burning and molten steel was still running. 8
A member of the New York Air National Guard's 109th Air Wing was at Ground Zero from September 22 to October 6. He kept a journal on which an article containing the following passage is based.

Smoke constantly poured from the peaks. One fireman told us that there was still molten steel at the heart of the towers' remains. Firemen sprayed water to cool the debris down but the heat remained intense enough at the surface to melt their boots. 9
The book American Ground, which contains detailed descriptions of conditions at Ground Zero, contains this passage:

... or, in the early days, the streams of molten metal that leaked from the hot cores and flowed down broken walls inside the foundation hole. 10
A review of of the documentary Collateral Damage in the New York Post describes firemen at Ground Zero recalling "heat so intense they encountered rivers of molten steel."

http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/evid...ltensteel.html

[Dixie]

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Misschien was het gesmolten goud en zilver, dat verdwenen is...

vooral gesmolten allumium en lampen van reddingswerkers
hilarisch die truthers...

[Wisord]

Ik vraag me af wat de draadlezers hier over dit artikkel denken ....

The Secret US War in Pakistan

Bron http://www.thenation.com/article/secret-us-war-pakistan

[Dixie]

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Ik vraag me af wat de draadlezers hier over dit artikkel denken ....

Bron http://www.thenation.com/article/secret-us-war-pakistan

dat het niets te doen heeft met 9/11

[Micele]

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niet erg de waarheid gaat jouw petje zowiezo te boven daarom dat je de fabeltjes van de truthers blijft geloven

oh, wat pikt dat toch...

[Micele]

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Via hier zijn 1381 9/11 gerelateerde onderzoeken te vinden

http://www.911investigations.net/

En hier degelijk en continu onderzoek, ook op wetenschappelijke basis.

[quote]http://www.journalof911studies.com/index.html

Journal of 9/11 Studies

Thank you for visiting The Journal of 9/11 Studies, a peer-reviewed, open-access, electronic-only journal, covering the whole of research related to the events of 11 September, 2001. Many fields of study are represented in the journal, including Engineering, Physics, Chemistry, Mathematics and Psychology. All content is freely available online. Our mission in the past has been to provide an outlet for evidence-based research into the events of 9/11 that might not otherwise have been published, due to the resistance that many established journals and other institutions have displayed toward this topic.

60 artikel, et laatste artikel is nog redelijk vers van jan 2011
60 Articles
Volume 30 - January 2011
Flight AA77 on 9/11: New FDR Analysis Supports the Official Flight Path Leading to Impact with the Pentagon
Frank Legge and Warren Stutt
...

Link to 67 Published LETTERS

http://www.journalof911studies.com/letters.html

Letters to the Journal of 911 Studies

The editors of the Journal of 9/11 Studies invite discussions, questions, and answers to the Letters section, as is commonly done in other scientific journals. Writing of Letters encourages careful thought and respectful questioning and responding, and provides a published record of scientific discussions. The time-honored use of published articles and letters in scientific venues began in the days of Sir Isaac Newton.

The requirements for publication of letters will be: relevance, respectful civility, posing specific questions, answering previously-published questions before posing more queries, and avoiding “straw-man” and ad hominem arguments. The editors of the Journal of 9/11 Studies will allow response-letters to be published in the Journal without formal peer-review only if requested by the author, on a trial basis, to encourage public presentation of various views. The more recently published letters will be nearer to the top.

9/11 Commission, Cheney, Mineta; Thermite; Goals; Pentagon-hit; Responses to 911-debunkers and "alternative theorists"; Common Sense and Laws of Physics; International Contributions; WTC Towers and WTC 7 Destruction

Tenminste de moeite.

[Dixie]

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oh, wat pikt dat toch...

aldus iemand die 'stelt' dat er geen vliegtuig crashte in het pentagon

ik lig steeds plat van jullie gedebunkte fantasie verhaaltjes
maar het is wel tijd dat er wat 'nieuw' werk komt

[Micele]

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aldus iemand die 'stelt' dat er geen vliegtuig crashte in het pentagon

ik lig steeds plat van jullie gedebunkte fantasie verhaaltjes
maar het is wel tijd dat er wat 'nieuw' werk komt

mmmh, wat pikt dat toch.

[Dixie]

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mmmh, wat pikt dat toch.

een 'echte' truther ... steeds dezelfde onzin blijven herhalen

[Micele]

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een 'echte' truther ... steeds dezelfde onzin blijven herhalen

Hoe wat pikt dat heel diep.

[Dixie]

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Hoe wat pikt dat heel diep.

ga dan naar de dokter en haal een tentanus spuitje

[Micele]

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ga dan naar de dokter en haal een tentanus spuitje

Dit schreef popularDixiemechanikske als bewijs dat de 9/11 commissie gelijk heeft ! Een link naar popularmechanics...

je mag tig keer dezelfde onzin plaatsen die reeds evenveel keer is gedebunked
de realiteit is dat de 9/11 commissie het bij het juiste eind heeft!
http://www.popularmechanics.com/tech...y/news/1227842

[Dixie]

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Dit schreef popularDixiemechanikske als bewijs dat de 9/11 commissie gelijk heeft ! Een link naar popularmechanics...

zou ik popular mecanics en de 9/11 commissie of beweerdatergeenvliegtuigMicheleinhetPentagonvloog achter zijn pc'tje geloven

To investigate 16 of the most prevalent claims made by conspiracy theorists, POPULAR MECHANICS assembled a team of nine researchers and reporters who, together with PM editors, consulted more than 70 professionals in fields that form the core content of this magazine, including aviation, engineering and the military.

The commission interviewed over 1,200 people in 10 countries and reviewed over two and a half million pages of documents, including some closely-guarded classified national security documents. Before it was released by the commission, the final public report was screened for any potentially classified information and edited as necessary.

Additionally, the commission has released several supplemental reports on the terrorists' financing, travel, and other matters.