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Pindar, Exodus en Heftruck: vraagje.

Niet zo lang geleden werd Ron Paul beschuldigd van racistische, xenofobische, etc. nieuwsbrieven geschreven te hebben. Hij heeft echter in een antwoord dit formeel ontkend.
Weet er iemand waar ik dat antwoord kan vinden? De oorspronkelijke bron of hier op het forum, waar iemand het ook al gepost heeft.

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Pindar, Exodus en Heftruck: vraagje.

Niet zo lang geleden werd Ron Paul beschuldigd van racistische, xenofobische, etc. nieuwsbrieven geschreven te hebben. Hij heeft echter in een antwoord dit formeel ontkend.
Weet er iemand waar ik dat antwoord kan vinden? De oorspronkelijke bron of hier op het forum, waar iemand het ook al gepost heeft.

Dank bij voorbaat.

ik heb eerlijk gezegd geen idee, hopelijk kunnen de anderen je helpen?


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ik heb eerlijk gezegd geen idee, hopelijk kunnen de anderen je helpen?


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Ik volg Ron Paul niet echt, tbh.
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Hier is zijn antwoord:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6rxt...eature=related
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Prisoners ‘to be chipped like dogs’

Hi-tech ’satellite’ tagging planned in order to create more space in jails
Civil rights groups and probation officers furious at ‘degrading’ scheme
By Brian Brady

Ministers are planning to implant “machine-readable” microchips under the skin of thousands of offenders as part of an expansion of the electronic tagging scheme that would create more space in British jails.

Amid concerns about the security of existing tagging systems and prison overcrowding, the Ministry of Justice is investigating the use of satellite and radio-wave technology to monitor criminals.

But, instead of being contained in bracelets worn around the ankle, the tiny chips would be surgically inserted under the skin of offenders in the community, to help enforce home curfews. The radio frequency identification (RFID) tags, as long as two grains of rice, are able to carry scanable personal information about individuals, including their identities, address and offending record.

The tags, labelled “spychips” by privacy campaigners, are already used around the world to keep track of dogs, cats, cattle and airport luggage, but there is no record of the technology being used to monitor offenders in the community. The chips are also being considered as a method of helping to keep order within prisons.

A senior Ministry of Justice official last night confirmed that the department hoped to go even further, by extending the geographical range of the internal chips through a link-up with satellite-tracking similar to the system used to trace stolen vehicles. “All the options are on the table, and this is one we would like to pursue,” the source added.

The move is in line with a proposal from Ken Jones, the president of the Association of Chief Police Officers (Acpo), that electronic chips should be surgically implanted into convicted paedophiles and sex offenders in order to track them more easily. Global Positioning System (GPS) technology is seen as the favoured method of monitoring such offenders to prevent them going near “forbidden” zones such as primary schools.

“We have wanted to take advantage of this technology for several years, because it seems a sensible solution to the problems we are facing in this area,” a senior minister said last night. “We have looked at it and gone back to it and worried about the practicalities and the ethics, but when you look at the challenges facing the criminal justice system, it’s time has come.”

The Government has been forced to review sentencing policy amid serious overcrowding in the nation’s jails, after the prison population soared from 60,000 in 1997 to 80,000 today. The crisis meant the number of prisoners held in police cells rose 13-fold last year, with police stations housing offenders more than 60,000 times in 2007, up from 4,617 the previous year. The UK has the highest prison population per capita in western Europe, and the Government is planning for an extra 20,000 places at a cost of £3.8bn – including three gigantic new “superjails” – in the next six years.

More than 17,000 individuals, including criminals and suspects released on bail, are subject to electronic monitoring at any one time, under curfews requiring them to stay at home up to 12 hours a day. But official figures reveal that almost 2,000 offenders a year escape monitoring by tampering with ankle tags or tearing them off. Curfew breaches rose from 11,435 in 2005 to 43,843 in 2006 – up 283 per cent. The monitoring system, which relies on mobile-phone technology, can fail if the network crashes.

A multimillion-pound pilot of satellite monitoring of offenders was shelved last year after a report revealed many criminals simply ditched the ankle tag and separate portable tracking unit issued to them. The “prison without bars” project also failed to track offenders when they were in the shadow of tall buildings.

The Independent on Sunday has now established that ministers have been assessing the merits of cutting-edge technology that would make it virtually impossible for individuals to remove their electronic tags.

The tags, injected into the back of the arm with a hypodermic needle, consist of a toughened glass capsule holding a computer chip, a copper antenna and a “capacitor” that transmits data stored on the chip when prompted by an electromagnetic reader.

But details of the dramatic option for tightening controls over Britain’s criminals provoked an angry response from probation officers and civil-rights groups. Shami Chakrabarti, director of Liberty, said: “If the Home Office doesn’t understand why implanting a chip in someone is worse than an ankle bracelet, they don’t need a human-rights lawyer; they need a common-sense bypass.

“Degrading offenders in this way will do nothing for their rehabilitation and nothing for our safety, as some will inevitably find a way round this new technology.”

Harry Fletcher, assistant general secretary of the National Association of Probation Officers, said the proposal would not make his members’ lives easier and would degrade their clients. He added: “I have heard about this suggestion, but we feel the system works well enough as it is. Knowing where offenders like paedophiles are does not mean you know what they are doing.

“This is the sort of daft idea that comes up from the department every now and then, but tagging people in the same way we tag our pets cannot be the way ahead. Treating people like pieces of meat does not seem to represent an improvement in the system to me.”

The US market leader VeriChip Corp, whose parent company has been selling radio tags for animals for more than a decade, has sold 7,000 RFID microchips worldwide, of which about 2,000 have been implanted in humans. The company claims its VeriChips are used in more than 5,000 installations, crossing healthcare, security, government and industrial markets, but they have also been used to verify VIP membership in nightclubs, automatically gaining the carrier entry – and deducting the price of their drinks from a pre-paid account.

The possible value of the technology to the UK’s justice system was first highlighted 18 months ago, when Acpo’s Mr Jones suggested the chips could be implanted into sex offenders. The implants would be tracked by satellite, enabling authorities to set up “zones”, including schools, playgrounds and former victims’ homes, from which individuals would be barred.

“If we are prepared to track cars, why don’t we track people?” Mr Jones said. “You could put surgical chips into those of the most dangerous sex offenders who are willing to be controlled.”

The case for: ‘We track cars, so why not people?’

The Government is struggling to keep track of thousands of offenders in the community and is troubled by an overcrowded prison system close to bursting. Internal tagging offers a solution that could impose curfews more effectively than at present, and extend the system by keeping sex offenders out of “forbidden areas”. “If we are prepared to track cars, why don’t we track people?” said Ken Jones, president of the Association of Chief Police Officers (Acpo).

Officials argue that the internal tags enable the authorities to enforce thousands of court orders by ensuring offenders remain within their own walls during curfew hours – and allow the immediate verification of ID details when challenged.

The internal tags also have a use in maintaining order within prisons. In the United States, they are used to track the movement of gang members within jails.

Offenders themselves would prefer a tag they can forget about, instead of the bulky kit carried around on the ankle.

The case against: ‘The rest of us could be next’

Professionals in the criminal justice system maintain that the present system is 95 per cent effective. Radio frequency identification (RFID) technology is unproven. The technology is actually more invasive, and carries more information about the host. The devices have been dubbed “spychips” by critics who warn that they would transmit data about the movements of other people without their knowledge.

Consumer privacy expert Liz McIntyre said a colleague had already proved he could “clone” a chip. “He can bump into a chipped person and siphon the chip’s unique signal in a matter of seconds,” she said.

One company plans deeper implants that could vibrate, electroshock the implantee, broadcast a message, or serve as a microphone to transmit conversations. “Some folks might foolishly discount all of these downsides and futuristic nightmares since the tagging is proposed for criminals like rapists and murderers,” Ms McIntyre said. “The rest of us could be next.”

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well, well well...



gedverdemme! genoeg om 10 keer over je nek te gaan!!

http://www.pact-online.org/pdf/E5M.pdf



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Pindar, Exodus en Heftruck; een vraagje.

Een tijdje geleden werd Ron Paul beschuldigd van racistische, xenofobische, etc. nieuwsbrieven verspreid te hebben. Hij beweerde echter formeel daar niets mee te maken hebben.

Weet er iemand waar zijn antwoord is?
Het stond hier op het forum, maar ik vind het niet. Een link naar de oorspronkelijke bron is ook goed. Dank bij voorbaatç
Hier staat zijn bericht.

Ik had dit al eens gepost maar blijkbaar is het van het forum verdwenen.

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RLINGTON, VIRGINIA – In response to an article published by The New Republic, Ron Paul issued the following statement:

“The quotations in The New Republic article are not mine and do not represent what I believe or have ever believed. I have never uttered such words and denounce such small-minded thoughts.

“In fact, I have always agreed with Martin Luther King, Jr. that we should only be concerned with the content of a person's character, not the color of their skin. As I stated on the floor of the U.S. House on April 20, 1999: ‘I rise in great respect for the courage and high ideals of Rosa Parks who stood steadfastly for the rights of individuals against unjust laws and oppressive governmental policies.’

“This story is old news and has been rehashed for over a decade. It's once again being resurrected for obvious political reasons on the day of the New Hampshire primary.

“When I was out of Congress and practicing medicine full-time, a newsletter was published under my name that I did not edit. Several writers contributed to the product. For over a decade, I have publicly taken moral responsibility for not paying closer attention to what went out under my name.”
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Sarkozy, ook een lakei van de NWO:

Sarkozy heeft trouwens al verschillende malen opgeroepen voor een nieuwe wereld orde.

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Sarkozy says pressure on Iran should be increased

AFP
Sunday January 13, 2008

French President Nicolas Sarkozy said he wants international pressure stepped up on Iran over its refusal to halt its contested nuclear programme, in an interview published Sunday.

"Iran is persistent in not respecting its international obligations, we want to continue to increase international pressure within the (UN) Security Council and European Union, until the country fulfills all its international obligations, that is to say it suspends sensitive activities and implements supplementary guarantees sought by the IAEA," Sarkozy was quoted as saying in the Al Hayat daily.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles...108Sarkozy.htm
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En verhofstadt doet zoals we weten ook mee de NWO-carousel:

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Verhofstadt wil meer Europa

- Premier Guy Verhofstadt (Open VLD) heeft in Malta gepleit voor een meer geïntegreerd economisch beleid in de landen die deel uitmaken van de eurozone. De premier is in de Maltese hoofdstad Valletta naar aanleiding van de invoering van de euro in Malta.
http://www.deredactie.be/cm/de.redac...d/080112_Malta
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De criminele top van de Amerikaanse en Isrealische reagering is twee handen op een buik, en Iran staat op de agenda:


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We'll Nuke Iran - Bush Promises Israel

US President George W. Bush promised Israel's opposition leader Binyamin Netanyahu that the United States will join the Jewish state in a nuclear strike against Iran, Israel Radio reported today.

Former Prime Minister Netanyahu, opposition Likud party's hardline chairman who opposes the US-backed Annapolis peace process, reiterated to President Bush his stance, that a pre-emptive nuclear strike against Iran's nuclear installations was the only way to stop the Islamic nation's nuclear weapons ambitions.

"I told him my position and Bush agreed," Netanyahu told Israel Radio.

During their 45-minute meeting at King David hotel in Jerusalem Netanyahu also told Bush that "Jerusalem belongs to the Jewish people and will remain under Israeli sovereignty for eternity."

President Bush issued a stark warning to Iran over Strait of Hormuz incident, saying that "all options are on the table to protect our assets."

“There will be serious consequences if they attack our ships, pure and simple,” Bush said during the joint news conference with Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert in Jerusalem. “And my advice to them is, don't do it.”

Bush criticized those who interpret the National Intelligence Estimate, which found that Iran gave up its nuclear weapons program in 2003, as a sign that Iran was no longer a threat.

"Let me remind you what the NIE actually said," Bush stold reporters. "It said that as far as the intelligence community could tell, at one time the Iranians had a military -- covert military program that was suspended in 2003 because of international pressure. My attitude is that a non-transparent country, a country which has yet to disclose what it was up to, can easily restart a program."
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http://www.wijwordenwakker.org/conte...3&ss=P106&l=NL
een nieuw berichtje over de NWO
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Gechannelde informatie, onder andere over tv en het controlesysteem.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Msbl4yVq7mU
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Citaat:
Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door AdrianHealey Bekijk bericht
Pindar, Exodus en Heftruck: vraagje.

Niet zo lang geleden werd Ron Paul beschuldigd van racistische, xenofobische, etc. nieuwsbrieven geschreven te hebben. Hij heeft echter in een antwoord dit formeel ontkend.
Weet er iemand waar ik dat antwoord kan vinden? De oorspronkelijke bron of hier op het forum, waar iemand het ook al gepost heeft.

Dank bij voorbaat.
Ik kan je wel het artikel geven en de pdf-versies van de nieuwsbrieven die geciteerd werden.
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De tegenstanders maken zich klaar voor de strijd. Sommigen kunnen wij overtuigen, anderen moeten wij verslaan; dat is het, waartoe wij mannen en vrouwen van onze volken oproepen.
Tezamen zullen wij overwinnen.
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Citaat:
“When I was out of Congress and practicing medicine full-time, a newsletter was published under my name that I did not edit. Several writers contributed to the product. For over a decade, I have publicly taken moral responsibility for not paying closer attention to what went out under my name.”
Complete onzin, zijn campagneleider gaf toe aan The New Republic dat Paul, en ik citeer, "had granted 'various levels of approval' to what appeared in his publications--ranging from 'no approval' to instances where he 'actually wrote it himself.'" Trouwens, als hij niet akkoord was met wat geschreven werd in zijn nieuwsbrief, dan kon hij de auteurs met één woord terugfluiten. Als hij werkelijk geen overzicht had van wat in bepaalde periodes in zijn nieuwsbrief verscheen dan wil dat zeggen dat hij nog incompetenter is dan Bush. Als hij niet eens een team van een twintigtal medewerkers kan leiden, waarom zou hij dan de VS kunnen leiden? In zijn laatste zin geeft hij ook gewoon toe dat hij volslagen incompetent is.
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De tegenstanders maken zich klaar voor de strijd. Sommigen kunnen wij overtuigen, anderen moeten wij verslaan; dat is het, waartoe wij mannen en vrouwen van onze volken oproepen.
Tezamen zullen wij overwinnen.

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Hier ook nog, gechanneld van dezelfde bron:
Citaat:
Remember the movie "V?" Many years ago, the
movie "V" was shown upon your planet to give you some idea of the cunning and the
conniving of certain entities who will come from space that some will indeed worship and
think they are absolutely powerful masters. These scenarios are going to prove true. There
is a pending merging of the human consciousness and the extraterrestrial alien presence
upon this planet. It is being marketed to you at a rapid rate.
What we are saying is that many of you who have studied and who used your own
discernment will be shocked and appalled at the foolishness and at the worship that the rest
of the race will have toward certain beings from space who will pass themselves off as
your creators, even though they do not have bodies that look like yours. They will be able
to do many things, share many technologies. They will perhaps cure certain diseasements
that they helped create in the first place by teaching germ warfare to your planetary
scientists.

You will retreat because you will become disgusted with society because you will not fit
with the new gods. Do you understand this? The new gods may be lizards? That's a little
funny, you think? Hold on to your seats. You have no idea what is coming. That is why we
said, "If we told you everything that was coming you would have scattered a long time
ago."

There will be many who will turn to these and say, "Yes,-these are wonderful.
I feel wonderful about them. They are so magnificent. Look what they can do." It will look
as if they are coming to fix and to save your world. When in actuality, it is simply another
form of authority and control.
What we are saying is that people will put a belief system and a paradigm on these entities.
There will be a large marketing program that is already going on to sell the presence of
these entities to you.
Many will turn to worshiping because it will seem as if miracles [are being performed]. It
will seem [to be] the grandest event in the history of the world. It will be marketed as such.
It will not be marketed as "our space brothers return." It will be marketed as if this is the
first time they have ever come, as the biggest event in the history of your world.

There will be a very big surprise. At first it may seem that mankind is being given a whole
new opportunity, a whole new golden era. Then [you] will find that the tyrannies will be
larger than ever before.
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ik heb pas het boek "13 illuminati bloodlines" herlezen en hierin verwijst ook Fritz Springmeier
ook heel kort even naar de "reptielen" ivm een getuigenverklaring.


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How low can we go?

Citaat:
Blair kicks off campaign to become EU President

(Supported by his Illuminati mate, Sarkozy)

'Tony Blair launched his campaign to become the first fully-fledged President of the European Union yesterday by describing the notion of left- and right-wing politics as redundant. With France preparing to oversee the appointment process, Blair set out his vision of modern European democracy at a meeting of the French governing conservative party by also claiming that EU countries could achieve far more by working together than acting in isolation.'
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/polit...0066%2C00.html

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ik heb pas het boek "13 illuminati bloodlines" herlezen en hierin verwijst ook Fritz Springmeier
ook heel kort even naar de "reptielen" ivm een getuigenverklaring.


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Kan je het desbetreffende stuk posten?
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Kan je het desbetreffende stuk posten?
ja is goed, ik ga het even opzoeken.

gevonden:

pag 10 van "Bloodlines of the Illuminati" staat het volgende:

Citaat:
"Recently, one renegade illuminati Grand Master has been showing photographs he took of Satan, a winged Draco-reptillian creature. This author has viewed the photos"
p10, uitgave 2002


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In verband met die allegaties van mind control en misbruik van kleine kinderen door de elite is dit toch weer zeer bizar.
of niet. Het is de beste 'cover' die ze kunnen hebben.
net als Robert Schuler van de Crystal Cathedral, hij is satanist, maar probeer dat zijn aanhangers maar bij te brengen. Voor hun is dat het aller aller belachelijkst idee.


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