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Oekraïense oorlog De Russische invasie in Oekraïne en aanverwante onderwerpen |
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12 januari 2024, 20:13 | #1 |
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Gonzalo Lira dood in Oekraïense gevangenis
Gevaarlijke job tegenwoordig om journalist en zelfs gewoon blogger te zijn. Lira had de VS Chileense nationaliteit maar het Biden regime deed niets om de man te redden wat ze nochtans gemakkelijk zouden kunnen gedaan hebben.
De vader: “I cannot accept the way my son has died. He was tortured, extorted, incommunicado for 8 months and 11 days and the US Embassy did nothing to help my son. The responsibility of this tragedy is the dictator Zelensky with the concurrence of a senile American President, Joe Biden,..." |
12 januari 2024, 20:49 | #2 |
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Tucker Carlson @TuckerCarlson -?*6:40 PM · Jan 12, 2024
Gonzalo Lira, Sr. says his son has died at 55 in a Ukrainian prison, where he was being held for the crime of criticizing the Zelensky and Biden governments. Gonzalo Lira was an American citizen, but the Biden administration clearly supported his imprisonment and torture. Several weeks ago we spoke to his father, who predicted his son would be killed. |
12 januari 2024, 20:51 | #3 |
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BREAKING: It is with great sadness I must announce that Gonzalo Lira @GonzaloLira1968, passed away in a hospital according to his father, who has been fighting to get his son much-needed medical attention for the past weeks. Here is a hand-written note from Gonzalo which I received on January 4: "I have had double pneumonia (both lungs) as well as pneumothorax and a very severe case of edema (swelling of the body). All this started in mid-October, but was ignored by the prison. They only admitted I had pneumonia at a Dec. 22 hearing. I am about to have a procedure to reduce the edema pressure in my lungs, which is causing me extreme shortness of breath, to the point of passing out after minimal activity, or even just talking for 2 minutes." |
12 januari 2024, 21:13 | #4 |
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Lol, die gast was een Poetin lover die posities van journalisten en soldaten doorspeelde aan de Russen. Een spion dus.
Hij werd gesteund door tadaaa… Carlson Tucker The Musk Maga Grappig feit: Musk failed a fact check op zijn eigen Twitter X omtrent dit heerschap: https://news.sky.com/story/elon-musk...ctors-13028020 But on Sunday, one of his own posts was marked with a community note, after he commented on the detention of US YouTuber Gonzalo Lira in Ukraine. Lira, a critic of Volodymyr Zelenskyy's government, has been detained amid accusations of breaching a Ukrainian law which makes justifying or denying Russia's armed aggression against Ukraine illegal. He is scheduled to appear in court on those charges this week. Musk wrote: "What is the status of this American journalist, Joe Biden?" But a community note later appeared on the post, saying: "Lira is actually a YouTuber. "He denied the Bucha massacre and other RU attacks against civilians, exposed the location of Western journalists and Ukrainian soldiers, including their faces, among other crimes." Musk, in response to his own post, then claimed the community note had been "gamed by state actors".
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12 januari 2024, 21:26 | #5 |
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12 januari 2024, 21:30 | #6 |
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Karaktermoord er boven op is te verwachten. Het westen is mede aan het afglijden naar het fascisme. Lira is een blogger geen spion of iemand die speciale informatie had buiten wat je via de media kan opvangen Dat is duidelijk als je zijn berichten volgde. Hij opineerde.
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12 januari 2024, 21:34 | #7 |
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10 Dec, 2023 19:53
Who is the jailed US journalist that Elon Musk is asking Biden and Zelensky about? A critic of the Kiev government, Gonzalo Lira is now awaiting trial in the Ukrainian city of Kharkov US-Chilean journalist and filmmaker Gonzalo Lira has been in pre-trial detention in Ukraine since last summer on accusations of justifying Moscow’s military operation against Kiev. The blogger’s fate has caused concerns from none other than Elon Musk, the SpaceX, Tesla and X CEO. In his posts on X (formerly Twitter), Musk demanded answers on the status of Lira from US President Joe Biden and his Ukrainian counterpart Vladimir Zelensky. He wondered how it was possible that an American citizen is in prison in Ukraine after “we sent over a $100 billion” to support the country amid the conflict with Russia. The entrepreneur also stressed that it would be a “serious problem” if it turned out that the journalist was being persecuted for “simply criticizing Zelensky.” Who is Gonzalo Lira? Lira is a journalist, blogger, writer, and filmmaker who has experience working in Hollywood. He’s the author of several novels in English and Spanish, including the 2002 spy thriller ‘Acrobat.’ The 55-year-old was also known online as ‘Coach Red Pill,’ offering lifestyle advice to a male audience. He reportedly moved to Ukraine in 2010 and married a native woman. The blogger lives in Kharkov, Ukraine’s second-largest city, located in the east of the country, not far from its border with Russia. After Russia and Ukraine’s long-simmering disputes turned to military confrontation in February 2022, Lira began actively covering the fighting on social media. He said that he loved Ukraine and its people and that the whole thing was a tragedy, but insisted that the conflict had been provoked by the Zelensky government and its Western backers. The blogger said that Ukraine had no chance of winning against Russia and predicted failure. He also criticized efforts by the Western media to portray Ukraine as a “democracy,” speaking about rampant corruption in the government and publishing a list of Zelensky’s opponents who, he claimed, had been “disappeared” by the Kiev authorities. Lira’s three arrests Lira’s disappearance in April 2022 made international headlines, with some accounts on social media claiming that he could’ve been abducted and murdered by the members of the notorious neo-Nazi unit ‘Kraken’ over his criticism of the Ukrainian authorities. However, he reemerged on social media a week later, saying that he had been detained by Ukraine’s Security Service (SBU). According to the journalist, he was released without charge but that access to his accounts was blocked and he was told not to leave Kharkov. The journalist was arrested once again in May 2023, ultimately being released from a pre-trial detention center house arrest after posting bail. On this occasion he claimed he had been subjected to extortion and physical abuse in custody. He was arrested again in July, with Ukrainian law enforcement stating he had attempted to leave the country for Hungary on a motorbike. Lira has remained in custody ever since. Washington’s reaction to the arrest The US has remained largely silent on the Lira affair, with the journalist claiming he had been receiving care while in jail only from the Chilean mission, with the US Embassy calling him “three times, but gave me nothing but ‘support’ – empty bromides.” Lira has also alleged he might end up extradited back to Ukraine should he ever be able to leave the country, specifically because US Under Secretary of State Victoria Nuland “hates my guts, or so I’m told.” Asked about Lira’s fate back in August, US Department of State spokesman Matthew Miller refused to provide any meaningful answer on the matter, citing “privacy” reasons. “The safety and security of every American overseas is our first priority. Because of privacy rules we’re unable in a lot of cases to talk about specific cases, but obviously the safety and security of Americans is our top priority,” Miller told reporters at the time. What his father says The father of jailed journalist Gonzalo Lira Sr. has squarely blamed the situation on the US administration and its ties to Kiev. The alleged persecution of his son stems from the fact that the latter had bravely reported on about a dozen Zelensky “opponents” who had “disappeared,” he claims. “This that is happening to my son, he’s a victim of this Biden government and his relation with that puppet Zelensky,” Lira Snr stated on Saturday in an interview with US journalist and political commenter Tucker Carlson. The link between the US administration and the blogger’s hardships might be even deeper, his father suggested, given that his second arrest in Ukraine came mere days “after condemning Joe Biden and Kamala Harris.” “Why was he not detained earlier? When he was let go the previous year, he continued the same criticism against the war,” the reporter’s father added. What is Ukraine saying? Kiev insists it has rightfully targeted Lira over his activities, with the SBU repeatedly stating the journalist has been accused of “producing and distributing materials justifying the armed aggression,” as well as disseminating “fakes” about the country’s armed forces. The journalist is now awaiting trial, with the first hearing on his case set to take place on December 12. Who is the jailed US journalist that Elon Musk is asking Biden and Zelensky about? Een maand later dus dood. Convenient. Dood en doodgezwegen door het VS regime en hun media. Laatst gewijzigd door Bach : 12 januari 2024 om 21:40. |
12 januari 2024, 21:44 | #8 |
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Een Amerikaan. In Kharkov. Die info over Oekraïne doorspeelt aan Rusland? Denk toch eens na. Dat ruikt van ver naar nonsens.
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12 januari 2024, 23:30 | #9 |
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13 januari 2024, 01:00 | #10 |
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Wat een praat voor de vaak. U toont geen respect voor Gonzalo Lira. Lira heeft nooit iets naar buiten gebracht behalve een mening. Het fascisme rukt op en u sluit zich aan bij de fascisten.
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13 januari 2024, 01:00 | #11 |
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Rust in vrede Gonzalo Lira. Vermoord omwille van het uiten van een mening.
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13 januari 2024, 01:19 | #12 |
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De vader van de joods-Amerikaanse Ruslandhaatster Victoria Nuland, SherwinBRON = = = In onderstaande video doet Gonzalo Lira uit de doeken waar de immense Ruslandhaat van "Fuck the EU" Nuland, die getrouwd is met Kagan, vandaan komt, Nuland's erfgoed en motivatie. VIDEO G. Lira 27 mrt 2022 Oorspronkelijk video: LINK, vanuit Kharkov.
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13 januari 2024, 07:50 | #13 |
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We zijn nu een dag verder, en er is nog steeds geen enkel ernstige bron voor dat indianenverhaal van Tucker Carlson te bevestigen. Een gluiperd heeft al de Wiki pagina aangepast alsof het hier over een geverifieerde zekerheid zou gaan, maar daar komt reactie tegen op.
Op wat baseert die hansworst van een Musk zich eigenlijk om dat met veel zekerheid als 'feit' te gaan tweeten ? |
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Er zijn na WO II veel mensen veroordeeld omdat ze tijdens de bezetting de mening uitten dat het goed was dat de bezetter hier was en zo he. Men noemde dat "zwarthemden". Laatst gewijzigd door patrickve : 13 januari 2024 om 08:19. |
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Kortom, Musk zijn interventie spreekt zichzelf tegen. Het is precies opdat de miljarden dollar materiele steun aan Oekraine zouden RENDEREN dat idioten zoals Lyra het zwijgen opgelegd moet worden, want zij zouden de noodzakelijke pep talk om Oekrainers naar de vleesmolen te krijgen ondermijnen, en dus het rendement van die miljarden dollars omlaag halen. Laatst gewijzigd door patrickve : 13 januari 2024 om 08:24. |
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Gelukkig is er nog meer dan enkel westerse media:
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Tass, RIA Novosti,…
Is er ergens een betrouwbare bron die dat bevestigt?
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13 januari 2024, 12:38 | #18 |
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Die cokehead van een Musk zal het eens zeggen.
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https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/world-i...n-ukraine.html Laatst gewijzigd door Bach : 13 januari 2024 om 12:45. |
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helsinki_Times Citaat:
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