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Bij een CD heb je nooit explosies een half uur voor de instorting en ook geen kwartier of 5 minuten , dat slaat helemaal nergens op. Het allereerste wat je ziet en/of hoort bij een CD zijn explosies direct opgevolgd door instorting. ALTIJD De truthers hebben ernstig misbruik gemaakt van getuigen door niet te vertellen waar en wanneer ze explosies hoorden. Citaat:
Wat ik wel weet is dat de fire chiefs de order hadden gegeven aan al hun mensen om te torens te verlaten , een "mayday" omdat men de gebouwen niet veilig meer vond. Citaat:
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Reports from People Outside WTC 7: NIST continued this approach in its WTC 7 report. There had been several credible reports of explosions. A reporter for the New York Daily News, said: [T]here was a rumble. The building’s top row of windows popped out. Then all the windows on the thirty-ninth floor popped out. Then the thirty-eighth floor. Pop! Pop! Pop! was all you heard until the building sunk into a rising cloud of gray. [41] 41. This statement (by Peter Demarco) is quoted in Chris Bull and Sam Erman, eds., At Ground Zero: Young Reporters Who Were There Tell Their Stories (New York: Thunder’s Mouth Press, 2002), 97. NYPD officer Craig Bartmer said: I was real close to Building 7 when it fell down. . . . [A]ll of a sudden. . . I looked up, and . . . [t]he thing started pealing in on itself. . . . I started running . . . and the whole time you’re hearing “boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.” [42] Reports from Hess and Jennings from Inside WTC 7: Besides ignoring these and other reports of explosions made by people outside Building 7, NIST distorted the testimony of two highly credible men who were inside: Michael Hess, who was New York City’s corporation counsel, and Barry Jennings, the deputy director of the Emergency Services Department of the New York City Housing Authority. 42. Bartmer’s statement is quoted in Paul Joseph Watson, “NYPD Officer Heard Building 7 Bombs,” Prison Planet, February 10, 2007 (http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles...heardbombs.htm). Citaat:
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19 juni 2015, 12:43 | #24543 |
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de term is zaken hoorden die leken op explosies. Er is geen cm bewijs gevonden van enig iets dat te maken had met explosieven!
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sus antigoon pfff, die Belgische kaart geeft toch enkel wat sociale en politieke voordelen, maar van onze roots doen we geen afstand, dit zou verraad zijn. Belg pas of geen , maakt geen verschil, enkel nodig voor het één en ander te bekomen. |
19 juni 2015, 13:05 | #24544 |
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Atmosphere, ben jij vrijmetselaar? (Herhaling)
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19 juni 2015, 13:37 | #24545 |
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19 juni 2015, 13:38 | #24546 |
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Er waren ook explosies, maar deze waren niet van explosieven afkomstig.
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19 juni 2015, 14:25 | #24549 | |
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De explosieven hebben ze ook niet teruggevonden in de resten van WTC 7 ziedewel er waren geen explosieven !! LOL Reports from People Outside WTC 7: NIST continued this approach in its WTC 7 report. There had been # several credible reports of explosions. A reporter for the New York Daily News, said: [T]here was a rumble. The building’s top row of windows popped out. Then all the windows on the thirty-ninth floor popped out. Then the thirty-eighth floor. Pop! Pop! Pop! was all you heard until the building sunk into a rising cloud of gray. [41] 41. This statement (by Peter Demarco) is quoted in Chris Bull and Sam Erman, eds., At Ground Zero: Young Reporters Who Were There Tell Their Stories (New York: Thunder’s Mouth Press, 2002), 97. NYPD officer Craig Bartmer said: I was real close to Building 7 when it fell down. . . . [A]ll of a sudden. . . I looked up, and . . . [t]he thing started pealing in on itself. . . . I started running . . . and the whole time you’re hearing “boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.” [42] Reports from Hess and Jennings from Inside WTC 7: Besides ignoring these and other reports of explosions made by people outside Building 7, NIST distorted the testimony of two highly credible men who were inside: Michael Hess, who was New York City’s corporation counsel, and Barry Jennings, the deputy director of the Emergency Services Department of the New York City Housing Authority. 42. Bartmer’s statement is quoted in Paul Joseph Watson, “NYPD Officer Heard Building 7 Bombs,” Prison Planet, February 10, 2007 Hiervoor zijn hersens gevraagd dit kort filmpje te bekijken/begrijpen, mensen zonder zintuigen en hersens raad ik dit niet aan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CS3OZtI7Go4
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19 juni 2015, 16:36 | #24550 | |
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De quotes die u aanhaalt zijn uit het Nist rapport, en daar staan flagrante leugens in. Misschien moet je eerst eens de officiele getuigenissen van de brandweerlui gaan lezen, die zijn geintervieuwd in de weken na 9/11. Dat er opdracht is gegeven rond 9.30 aan de brandweermannen om de buildings te verlaten is absolute bullshit. Tot en met het instorten van de Zuidertoren zijn brandweerlui in beide gebouwen blijven naar boven gaan. Ik heb nu geen tijd om in detail te treden over alles, maar ik ga hier later nog wel eens wat posts beantwoorden én jou en anderen eens een paar vragen stellen. Nog kort even voor je begint te zeuren over mijn feitenkennis: mijn nichtje is één van de weduwen van de brandweerlui en ik heb vanaf dag één alles op de voet gevolgd. Tot later. |
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19 juni 2015, 17:33 | #24551 | |
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Op geen enkele opname zijn er bovendien explosies direct voor de instorting te horen.
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19 juni 2015, 18:15 | #24552 | |||||
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En dat gaf ik ook. Begrijp je geen Engels ? Heb je problemne je in het Nederlands uit te drukken ? Citaat:
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Blijf jij maar lekker hopeloos blind. Moesten er opnames zijn zou je toch lekker zeggen dat ze vals zijn, en zo kan je blijven lullen. Maar de getuigenissen die ik gaf daar sta je dan met je mond vol tanden, NIETS kun je daarvan weerleggen. Reports from People Outside WTC 7: NIST continued this approach in its WTC 7 report. There had been several credible reports of explosions. A reporter for the New York Daily News, said: [T]here was a rumble. The building’s top row of windows popped out. Then all the windows on the thirty-ninth floor popped out. Then the thirty-eighth floor. Pop! Pop! Pop! was all you heard until the building sunk into a rising cloud of gray. [41] 41. This statement (by Peter Demarco) is quoted in Chris Bull and Sam Erman, eds., At Ground Zero: Young Reporters Who Were There Tell Their Stories (New York: Thunder’s Mouth Press, 2002), 97. NYPD officer Craig Bartmer said: I was real close to Building 7 when it fell down. . . . [A]ll of a sudden. . . I looked up, and . . . [t]he thing started pealing in on itself. . . . I started running . . . and the whole time you’re hearing “boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.” [42] Reports from Hess and Jennings from Inside WTC 7: Besides ignoring these and other reports of explosions made by people outside Building 7, NIST distorted the testimony of two highly credible men who were inside: Michael Hess, who was New York City’s corporation counsel, and Barry Jennings, the deputy director of the Emergency Services Department of the New York City Housing Authority. 42. Bartmer’s statement is quoted in Paul Joseph Watson, “NYPD Officer Heard Building 7 Bombs,” Prison Planet, February 10, 2007
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En ja er waren nog brandweer lui op weg naar boven , zij hadden de may-day echter niet ontvangen. Deze komen ook niet uit het NIST rapport : Citaat:
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19 juni 2015, 18:33 | #24554 | |||
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19 juni 2015, 18:34 | #24555 | |
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Nog meer verklaringen van brandweerlui uit o.a firehouse.com
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“It's only terrorism if they do it to us. When we do much worse to them, it's not terrorism.” Laatst gewijzigd door atmosphere : 19 juni 2015 om 18:35. |
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19 juni 2015, 18:37 | #24556 | |
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new york times http://www.mishalov.com/wtc_rescueplan.html
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U roept zo maar wat ! gebaseerd op het idiote idee dat niemand door had dat de gebouwen serieuze structurele schade hadden opgelopen.
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“It's only terrorism if they do it to us. When we do much worse to them, it's not terrorism.” Laatst gewijzigd door atmosphere : 19 juni 2015 om 18:41. |
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19 juni 2015, 18:37 | #24557 |
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Leugenaar.
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19 juni 2015, 18:39 | #24558 | |
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Je blijft in denial want je kunt NIETS weerleggen wat ik gaf. Blijf jij maar verder een lullende sufkop want de 2,25 sec free-fall van WTC 7 kan enkel verklaard worden als er totaal geen weerstand is van kolommen tijdens die instortingsfase en dat van alle kolommen quasi gelijktijdig ! Free Fall Collapse In its July 2008 Draft Report for Public Comment, the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) initially claimed that Building 7 collapsed 40% slower than free fall acceleration.[i] Why would NIST want to say Building 7 did not experience free fall? NIST’s lead technical investigator, Shyam Sunder, stated in the WTC 7 technical briefing that free fall could only happen when an object “has no structural components below it.”[ii] The only way for a building to have no structural components below it is to remove the lower structural components with an external force such as explosives. If the upper part of a building is crushing its lower structural components, in other words, doing the work of removing them, not all of its energy will be converted into motion and its descent will not be free fall. A high school physics teacher named David Chandler objected to NIST’s initial claim, pointing out that, based on video footage of Building 7’s destruction, NIST’s claim contradicted “a publicly visible, easily measurable quantity.”[iii] Mr. Chandler wrote a comment to NIST, saying, “Acknowledgement of and accounting for an extended period of free fall in the collapse of WTC 7 must be a priority if NIST is to be taken seriously.”[iv] Responding to the criticism, NIST in its final report issued in November 2008 did finally acknowledge that Building 7 descended at free fall. According to NIST, “This free fall drop continued for approximately 8 stories, or 32.0 meters (105 ft), the distance traveled between times t = 1.75 s and t = 4.0 s [a period of 2.25 seconds].”[v] However, NIST did not attempt to explain how Building 7’s free fall descent could have occurred. However, Mr. Chandler does explain how in Part 3 of his video, NIST Finally Admits Freefall, saying:[vi] “In the case of a falling building, the only way it can go into free fall is if an external force removes the supporting structure. None of the gravitational potential energy of the building is available for this purpose, or it would slow the fall of the building. The fact of free fall by itself is strong evidence of explosive demolition, but the evidence of explosive demolition is even stronger than that.” Mr. Chandler goes on to describe two particular attributes of Building 7’s free fall descent that make the evidence for explosive demolition even more overwhelming: “What is particularly striking is the suddenness of onset of free fall. Acceleration doesn’t build up gradually. The graph [measuring the building’s descent] simply turns a corner. The building went from full support to zero support instantly.” Secondly: “The onset of freefall was not only sudden, it extended across the whole width of the building… The fact the roof stayed level shows the building was in free fall across the entire width.” Mr. Chandler summarizes the meaning of these observations, saying: “The collapse we see cannot be due to a column failure, or a few column failures, or a sequence of column failures. All 24 interior columns and 58 perimeter columns had to have been removed over the span of 8 floors low in the building simultaneously to within a small fraction of a second, and in such a way that the top half of the building remains intact and uncrumpled.” Only explosives can instantaneously remove 8 stories allowing the upper structure to accelerate downwards in free fall. The absolute free fall of Building 7 over a period of 2.25 seconds is by itself overwhelming evidence that explosives were used to bring down the building. REFERENCES [i] National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST), “Final Report on the Collapse of World Trade Center Building 7 – Draft for Public Comment,” Washington, DC. August 2008. Chapter 3 p.41. http://wtc.nist.gov/media/NIST_NCSTA...ic_comment.pdf [ii] NIST WTC 7 Technical Briefing, August 26, 2008. http://911speakout.org/NIST_Tech_Bri...Transcript.pdf http://rememberbuilding7.org/free-fall-collapse/ [iii] Ibid. [iv] Quoted by David Ray Griffin, “The Mysterious Collapse of WTC 7: Why NIST’s Final 9/11 Report is Unscientific and False,” GlobalResearch.ca, September 14, 2009. http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=15201 [v] NIST NCSTAR 1A, “Final Report on the Collapse of World Trade Center Building 7,” Washington, DC. November 2008. p.45 http://wtc.nist.gov/NCSTAR1/ [vi] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3mud...eature=related http://rememberbuilding7.org/free-fall-collapse/ What is Building 7? Building 7 was a 47-story skyscraper and was part of the World Trade Center complex. Built in 1984, it would have been the tallest high-rise in 33 states in the United States. It collapsed at 5:20 pm on September 11, 2001. It was not hit by an airplane and suffered minimal damage compared to other buildings much closer to the Twin Towers. 7 FACTS ABOUT BUILDING 7 1) If fire caused Building 7 to collapse, it would be the first ever fire-induced collapse of a steel-frame high-rise. 2) Building 7’s collapse was not mentioned in the 9/11 Commission Report. 3) According to a Zogby poll in 2006, 43% of Americans did not know about Building 7. 4) It took the federal government seven years to conduct an investigation and issue a report for Building 7. 5) 1,700+ architects and engineers have signed a petition calling for a new investigation into the destruction of Building 7, specifying that it should include a full inquiry into the possible use of explosives. 6) Numerous witnesses say the possibility of demolishing Building 7 was widely discussed by emergency personnel at the scene and advocated by the building’s owner. 7) Building 7 housed several intelligence and law enforcement agencies, and the NYC Office of Emergency Management’s Emergency Operations Center, more commonly known as “Giuliani’s Bunker”. http://rememberbuilding7.org/7-facts-about-building-7/
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De vuile waarheid over ICE (vanaf 1 min 35") https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mk-LnUYEXuM Nederlandse versie: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kekJgcSdN38 Laatst gewijzigd door Micele : 19 juni 2015 om 19:09. |
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19 juni 2015, 19:06 | #24559 | |
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Er is totaal geen opdracht gegeven om de gebouwen te verlaten. Burgemeester Giuliani wist er echter wel van. Giuliani told Jennings: “We were operating out of there (75 Barclay Street, where they had set up temporary headquarters) when we heard that the World Trade Center was gonna collapse. And it did collapse before we were able to get out of the building, so we were trapped in the building for 10, 15 minutes, and finally found an exit and got out.” En wat dan gezegd over WTC7, die kort na de eerste impact van het vliegtuig volledig geëvacueerd werd (volgens Jennings en Hess)? Er werden elitemensen op de hoogte gebracht van de controlled demolition van de 3 gebouwen. Zoveel is zeker. Laatst gewijzigd door Frank51 : 19 juni 2015 om 19:07. |
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19 juni 2015, 19:10 | #24560 | |
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Micele heeft gelijk. Je liegt er op los. |
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