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Oud 6 november 2006, 20:45   #1
Ali Asker
 
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Standaard Constructive dialogue is the only answer to the PKK-Turkey conflict

Constructive dialogue is the only answer to the PKK-Turkey
conflict


Friday, November 03, 2006

KurdishMedia.com - By Rauf Naqishbendi


The diplomatic efforts between Washington and Ankara have been
incessant since the beginning of the Iraqi Liberation Campaign, with the
Turks hounding the United States' officials, pushing three of their main
agendas: muting the Iraqi Kurds' demand for statehood, crushing the
Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK), and of course, as always, begging for
foreign aid and more weapons.

Muting the Iraqi Kurds' Demand for Statehood

Since the collapse of the Ottoman Empire, the mindset of the Turks
regarding the Kurds has been that if they were to renounce their heritage,
abdicate their culture, abandon their language and proudly announce
themselves Turks, then they could be free, not as Turks but as moderate
second-class citizens. To accomplish this, they engaged in a campaign of
intimidation, cruelty and repression. And they didn't stop with the idea of
the wholesale conversion of Kurds to Turks, but claim that freedom would be
like a serpent to the Kurds, their sovereignty poisoning them and the region
as a whole. Sadly, this kind of bigotry has been allowed although it has
been pointed out several times to high ranking US officials in both the
White House and the State Department.

It is imperative that US officials not allow this Turkish opprobrium;
they need to live up to the founding fathers' principle of comprehensive
human dignity, and not allow themselves to be infatuated with Turkey knowing
its inhumane treatment of people and system and government. They should not
continue to involve themselves in Turkish crimes against humanity by
financing them as they have for more than half a century. They should tell
their Turkish friends that Kurds are entitled to their sovereignty as much
as they are, the Kurds will become a free nation at last, and they better
start getting used to it. Moreover, they should not allow themselves to be
bullied by vicious elements of the Turkish government that are attempting to
manage our foreign policy. A line needs to be drawn between friendly
relations and bullying, and justice and injustice. All this should be
communicated to the Turkish authorities with great courage and supplication
to humble them into descending from their high horse.

Crushing the Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK)

Injustice does not bring fortune, nor is there immunity from it. At
its best, humanity has always fought injustice. In Turkey, the Kurds have
tried every peaceful means to secure their rights, yet their peaceful
struggle has ever been refuted with acts of tyranny by the Turkish
authorities: their leaders have been imprisoned, many have perished by
barbaric torture, and many have fled to the mountains fearing for their
lives. This is why the PKK was born, and this is why they resorted to an
armed struggle. If Turkey had treated the Kurds with a sense of decency, the
PKK would not exist.

Against this backdrop, the State Department ignorantly and unfairly
listed the PKK as a terror organization, ignoring the fact that the birth of
the PKK was merely an effect of the brutality of Turks. The PKK is by far
more peace-loving and civilized than the Turkish authorities. For proof,
consider the fact that just recently for the fifth time they unilaterally
declared a ceasefire, and pleaded for constructive dialogue.

The response from Turkey was, "No dialogue."

Turkey is trying to have America fight the PKK who found safe haven in
Kurdistan in Iraq. Turkey has been fighting the PKK for nearly two decades
without apparent success. Now they want America to assume their failing
endeavor and engage in a bloody fight with the PKK. If America does that,
they will alienate their only friend in the Islamic world, the Kurds, and
cause further deterioration of the already fragile security of Iraq. It's
about time for the Turkish hatred to relent; words of wisdom are needed from
President Bush advising that peaceful dialogue should not be decapitated by
the ignorant desire for violence. The Turks should be told that their abuse
of human rights was the cause of what they now dread, and that now it's time
for humility and humanity from Turks - dialogue, not violence.

And of course, as always, begging for foreign aid and more weapons

Every high official the Turks send to the US comes begging for foreign
aid and more weapons. Indeed, Turkey, since America's rise as a world
superpower after World War II, has been a welfare state thanks to America's
sponsorship. Without it Turkey's economy would have remained as bruised as
any third world country's; the US's generosity was rendered unconditionally.
On the other hand, consider how the European Union dealt with Turkey - when
Turkey applied for membership in the EU, they made Turkey's improved human
rights toward Kurds and other minorities a precondition of their
consideration. That was a right course of action, and brings up the question
of why, for half a century, the US ignored all Turkey's human rights
violations and let Turks use American monetary and military aid to advance
their brutality against innocent civilians. Doesn't Washington understand
that assisting these reactionary governments is a conscientious endorsement
to further advance their atrocities against humanity, and what all this
tells the world about America? Shouldn't the State Department, in an attempt
to enhance America's standing regarding the promotion of human rights, deal
with Turkey as the EU has? America should make it clear to the Turkish
authorities that no more American aid is to be used for human atrocities and
that Turkey will not receive any more aid at all unless it improves its
human rights record in a verifiable fashion, just as the EU required.

President Bush should not trivialize constructive dialogue between the
PKK and Turkey. To this end, he should pressure the Turks politically and
economically to straighten out their treatment of minorities' human rights,
and to embark on the formation of a democratic system not benefiting Turks
alone, but rather all citizens of Turkey. Indubitably, anyone who is
familiar with Turkey cannot deny the magnitude of the suffering that has
been inflicted upon Kurds, Assyrians and Armenians as a result of the
misplaced American aid to Turkey. The remedy is long overdue and the time to
right the wrong is now.

http://www.kurdmedia.com/




 
Oud 6 november 2006, 21:05   #2
Baba Bey
 
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Standaard "Ali Asker" the Greco-Armenian PKK propaganda poster financed from EU funds Greece gets from the EU

"Ali Asker" the Greco-Armenian PKK propaganda poster financed from EU funds Greece gets from the EU, wrote
>
> KurdishMedia.com - By Rauf Naqishbendi
> The diplomatic efforts between Washington and Ankara have been
> incessant since the beginning of the Iraqi Liberation Campaign


"Liberation Campaign"!...
ROTFL!!! :-)))))))))))))
ROTFL!!! :-)))))))))))))
ROTFL!!! :-)))))))))))))


"Ali Asker", the Greco-Armenian Anti-Turkish propaganda poster, from behind...
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ROTFL! :-)))))))))))))))))))))

 
Oud 6 november 2006, 21:25   #3
Panta Rhei
 
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Standaard Blahblah Bey Keeps Revealing his Retardation on Usenet! <G>

Blahblah Bey, the lobotomized Turk, writes:

> "Ali Asker" the Greco-Armenian PKK propaganda poster financed from EU funds Greece gets from the EU, wrote
>>
>> KurdishMedia.com - By Rauf Naqishbendi
>> The diplomatic efforts between Washington and Ankara have been
>> incessant since the beginning of the Iraqi Liberation Campaign

>
> "Liberation Campaign"!...
> ROTFL!!! :-)))))))))))))
> ROTFL!!! :-)))))))))))))
> ROTFL!!! :-)))))))))))))


Blahblah, the lobotomized Turk, shows he can laugh like a real, natural
retard! <BG>


> "Ali Asker", the Greco-Armenian Anti-Turkish propaganda poster, from behind...


Looks like a Turk, rather, either praying or begging favours from the EU:

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> .-"" '.' ""-.
> ." .'. ".
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Oud 6 november 2006, 23:05   #4
Ali Asker
 
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Standaard Re: Blahblah Bey Keeps Revealing his Retardation on Usenet! <G>


"Panta Rhei" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Blahblah Bey, the lobotomized Turk, writes:
>
>> "Ali Asker" the Greco-Armenian PKK propaganda poster financed from EU
>> funds Greece gets from the EU, wrote
>>>
>>> KurdishMedia.com - By Rauf Naqishbendi
>>> The diplomatic efforts between Washington and Ankara have been
>>> incessant since the beginning of the Iraqi Liberation Campaign

>>
>> "Liberation Campaign"!...
>> ROTFL!!! :-)))))))))))))
>> ROTFL!!! :-)))))))))))))
>> ROTFL!!! :-)))))))))))))

>
> Blahblah, the lobotomized Turk, shows he can laugh like a real, natural
> retard! <BG>
>
>
>> "Ali Asker", the Greco-Armenian Anti-Turkish propaganda poster, from
>> behind...

>
> Looks like a Turk, rather, either praying or begging favours from the EU:


Internet age is really helping to know these backward Turks!



Imagine if we were living in 1950 or 1960s where we had to rely on our
leaders to make decisions about the EU membership then I am sure, Turks
would have been in EU long time ago just because of personnel gains of few
EU idiots!



Thanks, god everyone in Europe have the opportunity to assess who should be
a member and who shouldn't be a member of the EU!



>
> _______
>> .-"" '.' ""-.
>> ." .'. ".
>> /| Q |
>> / | :|: |\
>> / / . . \"\
>> / / ,/: :\, \ "\
>> / / / (_i_) \ \ "\
>> / / /" '-' "\ \ |
>>| / /" "\ \."
>>|| / |/ \ \ \ \
>>|| ,'-./ \ |--. |
>>| \ \ / |
>>|\ \ | | /
>> \_^-\ \ | /
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>> \ \ / /
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>> /- | | \ / / ( -\
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>> """



 
 



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