Toespraken van Ataturk

Turkse Nederlander · 21 april 2005, 16:33

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[/size][/font][font=tahoma][size=2]ATATÜRK'S MESSAGE TO THE TURKISH YOUTH

[/size][/font][font=tahoma][size=2] Turkish Youth,

Your primary duty is forever to protect and defend the Turkish independence and the Turkish Republic. This is the very foundation of your existence and your future. This foundation is your most precious treasure.

In the future, there may be malevolent people at the home and abroad who will wish to deprive you of this treasure. If one day, you are compelled to defend your your independence and the Republic, then in order to fulfil your duty, you will have to look beyond the possibilities and conditions in which you might find yourself. These possibilities and conditions may turn out to be extremely unfauourable. The enemy who triesto destroy your independence and your Republic, may represents the strongest force that the earth has ever seen. By force and by craft, all strong holds and all arsenals of our dear fatherland may have been taken, all of its armies may have been defeated and all corners of the country may have been physically occupied. More distressing and grievous than all these, those who hold and exercise the power within the country may gave fallen into gross error, blunder and even treason. These holders of power may have united their personel interests with the political ambitions of the invarders. The nation itself may have fallen into complete privation and may have be come exhausted and devastated.

You, the sons and daughters, the future of Turkiye, even under such circumstances and conditions, your duty is to save the Turkish independence and the Republic, you will find the power you need in the noble blood in your veins.

Mustafa Kemal ATATÜRK - 1927
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SPEECH DELIVERED BY ATATÜRK ON THE OCCASION OF THE TENTH ANNİVERSARY OF THE TURKISH REPUBLIC [font=tahoma][size=2]

The Turkish Nation

We have performed very big works in a short period of time. The biggest of such works is the Republic of Turkey based on the heroism and Turkish Culture. We owe the success to determinative cooperation between the Turkish nation and its esteemed Army. We can never consider those works sufficient. Because we have to perform bigger works. We shall rise our national culture above the level of contemporary civilization. Therefore, the time should conform with the speed and action concept of our century. We shall work harder. We shall realize bigger works in shorter time. We shall be succesful. The Turkish Nation hard is working. The Turkish Nation is intelligent. Because, the Turkish Nation had overcome the difficulties by national unity. Because the torch in the hand of the Turkish Nation on the way of progress is positive science. Another characteristic of the Turkish Nation is to love the fine arts end to reach a high level in these fields. Therefore, it is our national ideal to develop by all means the good character, industriousness, natural intelligence, particularity about science and fine arts, and national unity concept. Today I definitelly state that, the whole world of civilization will once again recognize the greatness of the Turkish Nation, in a short period of time.

I never doubt that the great civil character of Turkism and its great civil ability will rise as a sun over high horizon of civilisation, through further development.

Happy is the man who calls himself a Turk.

Mustafa Kemal ATATÜRK - 1933

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INSCRIPTION OF THE ATATÜRK'S LAST MESSAGE TO THE TURKISH ARMIES [/size][/font]

[font=tahoma][size=2] I address the Turkish Army whose record of victory started at the down of the history of mankind and which has carried the light of civilization in its victorious progress.

I have no doubt that just as in the most critical and difficult times you saved the country from oppression, tragedy and enemy invasion, so today, in the fruitful era of the Republic equpped with all the modern weapons and means of military science you will do your duty with the same faith.

I and our great nation know that you are always prepared to carry out your duty defending the honour of our country and our civilisation against danger, from inside our out.

29 Ekim 1938
President
Mustafa Kemal ATATÜRK
This message has been inscribed on a wall of the Mausoleum on the occasion of the Centennial of Atatürk's Birth.

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A MESSAGE FOR WORLD PEACE [/size][/font]

[font=tahoma][size=2] "THOSE HEROES THAT SHED THEIR BLOOD AND LOST THEIR LIVES... YOU ARE NOW LYING IN THE SOIL OF A FRIENDLY COUNTRY. THEREFORE REST IN PEACE. THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE JOHNNIES AND THE MEHMETS TO US WHERE THEY LIE SIDE BY SIDE HERE IN THIS COUNTRY OF OURS...

YOU, THE MOTHERS, WHO SENT THEIR SONS FROM FAR AWAY COUNTRIES, WIPE AWAY YOUR TEARS; YOUR SONS ARE NOW LYING IN OUR BOSOM AND ARE IN PEACE. AFTER HAVING LOST THEIR LIVES ON THIS LAND THEY HAVE BECOME OUR SONS AS WELL."

ATATÜRK, 1934 [/size][/font]

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Piet Hein · 21 april 2005, 16:47

Ik heb veel respect voor Ataturk .

Peter Johan · 21 april 2005, 17:56

Geachte forummer,

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Kan u dit alsnog rechtzetten en stof tot discussie verstrekken?
Als deze thread blijft steken in louter propaganda, dan wordt hij gesloten.

Peter Johan

styllo_ben · 21 april 2005, 19:48

Dit zijn wel zeer mooie woorden...helaas zijn ze nu, in de omstandigheden van vandaag, zeer voorbijgestreefd en ook totaal verkeerd: De idealen van Ataturk (die op zich niet mis zijn!) worden vandaag de dag aangewend om iedere democratisering in de kiem te smoren, de roep naar vrijheid te verstikken, de droom naar rechtstaat te wissen, het verlangen naar mensenrechten te bevuilen...

De anti-democratische elite van Turkije vindt in Ataturks woorden de goedkeuring van hun middeleeuws beleid dat ze nu voeren...was dit de bedoeling van Ataturk???

Turkse Nederlander · 21 april 2005, 21:44

Citaat:

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Peter Johan

Geachte forummer,

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Kan u dit alsnog rechtzetten en stof tot discussie verstrekken?
Als deze thread blijft steken in louter propaganda, dan wordt hij gesloten.

Peter Johan

OK dan

Bron:
http://tadevrimi.sitemynet.com/ingilizce.htm

Discussiestof: Ataturk is niet een slechterik zoals bijvoorbeeld Joriske en een aantal stormfronters beweren.

Ataturk was brilliant in het houden van toespraken.

Ataturk zou ook een uitstekende leider in een westers land zijn geweest.

Ataturk is de grootste man van de 20e eeuw.

Joriske · 22 april 2005, 07:43

En wat, o wat, heeft dit met de huidige internationale politiek te maken?

maddox · 22 april 2005, 07:57

Veel natuurlijk. Turkije is het belangrijkste land ter wereld voor onze Turk4ever.Waarom ie dan hier zit,snap ik ook niet.

Alleen dankzij de onaflaatbare inzet van het leger-[size=1]niet zonder eigenbelang van de hogere officieren, want ze willen niet vervangen worden door mullahs en imans[/size]- is Turkije een modern land aan het worden.
En de democratie in Turkije.Alsof het hier een democratie is?

Shizie · 22 april 2005, 08:39

snap ik ook nie tbh... irrelevante nationalistische zever van een van de bloedigste volkeren ter wereld..

21 april 2005, 16:33	#1
Turkse Nederlander Minister-President Geregistreerd: 18 december 2002 Berichten: 4.060	Toespraken van Ataturk [font=tahoma][size=2] [/size][/font][font=tahoma][size=2]ATATÜRK'S MESSAGE TO THE TURKISH YOUTH [/size][/font][font=tahoma][size=2] Turkish Youth, Your primary duty is forever to protect and defend the Turkish independence and the Turkish Republic. This is the very foundation of your existence and your future. This foundation is your most precious treasure. In the future, there may be malevolent people at the home and abroad who will wish to deprive you of this treasure. If one day, you are compelled to defend your your independence and the Republic, then in order to fulfil your duty, you will have to look beyond the possibilities and conditions in which you might find yourself. These possibilities and conditions may turn out to be extremely unfauourable. The enemy who triesto destroy your independence and your Republic, may represents the strongest force that the earth has ever seen. By force and by craft, all strong holds and all arsenals of our dear fatherland may have been taken, all of its armies may have been defeated and all corners of the country may have been physically occupied. More distressing and grievous than all these, those who hold and exercise the power within the country may gave fallen into gross error, blunder and even treason. These holders of power may have united their personel interests with the political ambitions of the invarders. The nation itself may have fallen into complete privation and may have be come exhausted and devastated. You, the sons and daughters, the future of Turkiye, even under such circumstances and conditions, your duty is to save the Turkish independence and the Republic, you will find the power you need in the noble blood in your veins. Mustafa Kemal ATATÜRK - 1927 *** * * [/size][/font] SPEECH DELIVERED BY ATATÜRK ON THE OCCASION OF THE TENTH ANNİVERSARY OF THE TURKISH REPUBLIC [font=tahoma][size=2] The Turkish Nation We have performed very big works in a short period of time. The biggest of such works is the Republic of Turkey based on the heroism and Turkish Culture. We owe the success to determinative cooperation between the Turkish nation and its esteemed Army. We can never consider those works sufficient. Because we have to perform bigger works. We shall rise our national culture above the level of contemporary civilization. Therefore, the time should conform with the speed and action concept of our century. We shall work harder. We shall realize bigger works in shorter time. We shall be succesful. The Turkish Nation hard is working. The Turkish Nation is intelligent. Because, the Turkish Nation had overcome the difficulties by national unity. Because the torch in the hand of the Turkish Nation on the way of progress is positive science. Another characteristic of the Turkish Nation is to love the fine arts end to reach a high level in these fields. Therefore, it is our national ideal to develop by all means the good character, industriousness, natural intelligence, particularity about science and fine arts, and national unity concept. Today I definitelly state that, the whole world of civilization will once again recognize the greatness of the Turkish Nation, in a short period of time. I never doubt that the great civil character of Turkism and its great civil ability will rise as a sun over high horizon of civilisation, through further development. Happy is the man who calls himself a Turk. Mustafa Kemal ATATÜRK - 1933 * * * [/size][/font] [font=tahoma][size=2] INSCRIPTION OF THE ATATÜRK'S LAST MESSAGE TO THE TURKISH ARMIES** [/size][/font] [font=tahoma][size=2] I address the Turkish Army whose record of victory started at the down of the history of mankind and which has carried the light of civilization in its victorious progress. I have no doubt that just as in the most critical and difficult times you saved the country from oppression, tragedy and enemy invasion, so today, in the fruitful era of the Republic equpped with all the modern weapons and means of military science you will do your duty with the same faith. I and our great nation know that you are always prepared to carry out your duty defending the honour of our country and our civilisation against danger, from inside our out. 29 Ekim 1938 President Mustafa Kemal ATATÜRK This message has been inscribed on a wall of the Mausoleum on the occasion of the Centennial of Atatürk's Birth. *** * * [/size][/font][font=tahoma][size=2] A MESSAGE FOR WORLD PEACE [/size][/font] [font=tahoma][size=2] "THOSE HEROES THAT SHED THEIR BLOOD AND LOST THEIR LIVES... YOU ARE NOW LYING IN THE SOIL OF A FRIENDLY COUNTRY. THEREFORE REST IN PEACE. THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE JOHNNIES AND THE MEHMETS TO US WHERE THEY LIE SIDE BY SIDE HERE IN THIS COUNTRY OF OURS... YOU, THE MOTHERS, WHO SENT THEIR SONS FROM FAR AWAY COUNTRIES, WIPE AWAY YOUR TEARS; YOUR SONS ARE NOW LYING IN OUR BOSOM AND ARE IN PEACE. AFTER HAVING LOST THEIR LIVES ON THIS LAND THEY HAVE BECOME OUR SONS AS WELL." ATATÜRK, 1934 [/size][/font] * * ***

21 april 2005, 19:48	#4
styllo_ben Minister-President Geregistreerd: 6 augustus 2004 Berichten: 4.454	Dit zijn wel zeer mooie woorden...helaas zijn ze nu, in de omstandigheden van vandaag, zeer voorbijgestreefd en ook totaal verkeerd: De idealen van Ataturk (die op zich niet mis zijn!) worden vandaag de dag aangewend om iedere democratisering in de kiem te smoren, de roep naar vrijheid te verstikken, de droom naar rechtstaat te wissen, het verlangen naar mensenrechten te bevuilen... De anti-democratische elite van Turkije vindt in Ataturks woorden de goedkeuring van hun middeleeuws beleid dat ze nu voeren...was dit de bedoeling van Ataturk??? Laatst gewijzigd door styllo_ben : 21 april 2005 om 19:50.

22 april 2005, 07:43	#6
Joriske Gouverneur Geregistreerd: 16 oktober 2003 Locatie: 't Stad Berichten: 1.197	En wat, o wat, heeft dit met de huidige internationale politiek te maken? __________________ "January 15, 1916 - To the Government of Aleppo - We are informed that certain orphanages which have opened also admitted the children of the Armenians. [...]the Government will view the feeding of such children or any effort to prolong their lives as an act completely opposite to its purpose, since it regards the survival of these children as detrimental. - Minister of the Interior, TALAAT."

22 april 2005, 07:57	#7
maddox Secretaris-Generaal VN Geregistreerd: 25 september 2002 Locatie: vilvoorde Berichten: 70.721	Veel natuurlijk. Turkije is het belangrijkste land ter wereld voor onze Turk4ever.Waarom ie dan hier zit,snap ik ook niet. Alleen dankzij de onaflaatbare inzet van het leger-[size=1]niet zonder eigenbelang van de hogere officieren, want ze willen niet vervangen worden door mullahs en imans[/size]- is Turkije een modern land aan het worden. En de democratie in Turkije.Alsof het hier een democratie is? __________________ De meeste mensen gaan naar het werk om geld te krijgen, niet om het te verdienen.

21 april 2005, 16:47	#2
Piet Hein Minister Geregistreerd: 1 juni 2004 Berichten: 3.757	Ik heb veel respect voor Ataturk .

21 april 2005, 17:56	#3
Peter Johan Parlementslid Geregistreerd: 26 mei 2003 Locatie: Belgium Berichten: 1.956	Geachte forummer, U maakt een copy paste zonder toegevoegde waarde zoals eigen mening er over en bovendien geen bronvermelding... Kan u dit alsnog rechtzetten en stof tot discussie verstrekken? Als deze thread blijft steken in louter propaganda, dan wordt hij gesloten. Peter Johan

22 april 2005, 08:39	#8
Shizie Banneling Geregistreerd: 7 maart 2004 Locatie: Ergens in Siberie Berichten: 2.629	snap ik ook nie tbh... irrelevante nationalistische zever van een van de bloedigste volkeren ter wereld..