De komende oorlog tegen Iran

[Gun]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Dr. Strangelove

De koetspaarden die door Brugge sjokken hebben minder last van oogkleppen dan jij.

Een waarheid als een koe!

[john bell hood]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Dr. Strangelove

Sommige vormen van kritiek worden een compliment als je kijkt naar de bron. Als jij mij een realist zou noemen, dan zou ik ernstig aan mezelf beginnen twijfelen. De koetspaarden die door Brugge sjokken hebben minder last van oogkleppen dan jij.

De aanwezigheid van de NVA en de VC in cambodja en laos tijdens de oorlog in viëtnam afdoen met :"de grenzen zijn in de jungle niet duidelijk"is bepaald geen uiting van realisme maar eerder van alles goedpraten van tegenstanders van de VS.Zo zijn er nog voorbeelden.

[john bell hood]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door 2004gun

Een waarheid als een koe!

Komend van u is dit een groot compliment.

[Dr. Strangelove]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door john bell hood

De aanwezigheid van de NVA en de VC in cambodja en laos tijdens de oorlog in viëtnam afdoen met :"de grenzen zijn in de jungle niet duidelijk"is bepaald geen uiting van realisme maar eerder van alles goedpraten van tegenstanders van de VS.Zo zijn er nog voorbeelden.

Ik beweerde niet de de VC niet wisten dat hun Ho Chi Minh Trail de grens overschreed. Ik bedoelde dat het uiterst moeilijk was voor de regeringen van Laos en Cambodia om dit tegen te gaan. Zeker in Cambodia wilde de prins dit wel, maar het lukte hem niet. Hij liep pas "over naar de communisten" zoals u dit noemt (in feite ging te enkel om een tijdelijk tactisch bondgenootschap), nadat hij was afgezet.
Maar ik veronderstel dat je deze verheldering wel opnieuw als een uitvlucht zal beschouwen. Why do I even bother?

Toch nog één poging: ik heb nog nooit "alles goedgepraat" wat de tegenstanders van de VS doen. integendeel, ik heb al tientallen malen Saddam, Iran, Rusland, China, Chavez, Hamas, Hezbollah, ...bekritiseerd en verbaal onder vuur genomen. Over de terroristen van Al qaida het ik nog nooit ook maar iets positiefs gezegd. Ik daag u opnieuw uit om het tegendeel te bewijzen. Het feit dat je mij voortdurend als een anti-amerikanist wilt afschilderen, is louter gebaseerd op je eigen paranoïa en vooroordelen.
Als je van een goede vriend ziet dat het heel slecht met hem gaat, dat hij voortdurend de verkeerde beslissingen neemt, dan ben je een lafaard en een valse vriend als je zwijgt. Een echte vriend van Amerika staat kritisch tegenover de Bush-doctrine.

[john bell hood]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Dr. Strangelove

Ik beweerde niet de de VC niet wisten dat hun Ho Chi Minh Trail de grens overschreed. Ik bedoelde dat het uiterst moeilijk was voor de regeringen van Laos en Cambodia om dit tegen te gaan. Zeker in Cambodia wilde de prins dit wel, maar het lukte hem niet. Hij liep pas "over naar de communisten" zoals u dit noemt (in feite ging te enkel om een tijdelijk tactisch bondgenootschap), nadat hij was afgezet.
Maar ik veronderstel dat je deze verheldering wel opnieuw als een uitvlucht zal beschouwen. Why do I even bother?

Toch nog één poging: ik heb nog nooit "alles goedgepraat" wat de tegenstanders van de VS doen. integendeel, ik heb al tientallen malen Saddam, Iran, Rusland, China, Chavez, Hamas, Hezbollah, ...bekritiseerd en verbaal onder vuur genomen. Over de terroristen van Al qaida het ik nog nooit ook maar iets positiefs gezegd. Ik daag u opnieuw uit om het tegendeel te bewijzen. Het feit dat je mij voortdurend als een anti-amerikanist wilt afschilderen, is louter gebaseerd op je eigen paranoïa en vooroordelen.
Als je van een goede vriend ziet dat het heel slecht met hem gaat, dat hij voortdurend de verkeerde beslissingen neemt, dan ben je een lafaard en een valse vriend als je zwijgt. Een echte vriend van Amerika staat kritisch tegenover de Bush-doctrine.

Als gij dat niet beweerde hebt ge zeer slecht uitgedrukt wat gij zegt te hebben willen zeggen.Probeert gij misschien Nostradamus na te doen?Sihanouk heeft nooit iets gedaan tegen de schending van de neutraliteit van zijn land en het feit dat hij zich liet gebruiken door de communisten zegt veel.De neutraliteit van Laos en Cambodja was in ieder geval een farce.Het overnemen van de communistische propaganda over de achtergrond staatsgreep van Lon Nol is ook geen bewijs van realisme.

[is da waar]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door john bell hood

Ook alleen speldeprikken.Het IDF heeft mokerslagen uitgedeeld.

Uw joodse vriendjes hebben er anders wel een klungelboeltje van gemaakt
En ja johnson dit is door een israeli geschreven...

[SIZE=7]S[/SIZE]o what has happened to the Israeli army?
This question is now being raised not only around the world, but also in Israel itself. Clearly, there is a huge gap between the army's boastful arrogance, on which generations of Israelis have grown up, and the picture presented by this war.
Before the choir of generals utters its expected cries of being stabbed in the back – "The government has shackled our hands! The politicians did not allow the army to win! The political leadership is to blame for everything!" – it is worthwhile to examine this war from a professional military point of view.
(It is, perhaps, appropriate to interject at this point a personal remark. Who am I to speak about strategic matters? What am I, a general? Well – I was 16 years old when World War II broke out. I decided then to study military theory in order to be able to follow events. I read a few hundred books – from Sun Tzu to Clausewitz to Liddel-Hart and so on. Later, in the 1948 war, I saw the other side of the medal, as a soldier and squad-leader. I have written two books on the war. That does not make me a great strategist, but it does allow me to voice an informed opinion.)
The facts speak for themselves:
On the 32nd day of the war, Hezbollah is still standing and fighting. That by itself is a stunning feat: a small guerilla organization, with a few thousand fighters, is standing up to one of the strongest armies in the world and has not been broken after a month of "pulverizing." Since 1948, the armies of Egypt, Syria, and Jordan have repeatedly been beaten in wars that were much shorter.
As I have already said: if a lightweight boxer is fighting a heavyweight champion and is still standing in the 12th round, the victory is his – whatever the count of points says.
In the test of results – the only one that counts in war – the strategic and tactical command of Hezbollah is decidedly better than that of our own army. All along, our army's strategy has been primitive, brutal, and unsophisticated.
Clearly, Hezbollah has prepared well for this war – while the Israeli command has prepared for a quite different war.
On the level of individual fighters, the Hezbollah are not inferior to our soldiers, neither in bravery nor in initiative.
[SIZE=7]T[/SIZE]he main guilt for the failure belongs with Gen. Dan Halutz. I say "guilt" and not merely "responsibility," which comes with the job.
He is living proof of the fact that an inflated ego and a brutal attitude are not enough to create a competent chief of staff. The opposite may be true.
Halutz gained fame (or notoriety) when he was asked what he feels when he drops a one-ton bomb on a residential quarter and answered: "a slight bang on the wing." He added that afterwards he sleeps well at night. (In the same interview, he also called me and my friends "traitors" who should be prosecuted.)
Now it is already clear – again, in the test of results – that Dan Halutz is the worst chief of staff in the annals of the Israeli army, a completely incompetent officer for his job.
Recently he has changed his blue air force uniform for the green one of the land army. Too late.
Halutz started this war with the bluster of an air force officer. He believed that it was possible to crush Hezbollah by aerial bombardment, supplemented by artillery shelling from land and sea. He believed that if he destroyed the towns, neighborhoods, roads, and ports of Lebanon, the Lebanese people would rise and compel their government to remove Hezbollah. For a week he killed and devastated, until it became clear to everybody that this method achieves the opposite – strengthens Hezbollah, weakens its opponents within Lebanon and throughout the Arab world, and destroys the worldwide sympathy Israel enjoyed at the beginning of the war.
When he reached this point, Halutz did not know what to do next. For three weeks he sent his soldiers into Lebanon on senseless and hopeless missions, gaining nothing. Even in the battles that were fought in villages right on the border, no significant victories were achieved. After the fourth week, when he was requested to submit a plan to the government, it was unbelievably primitive.
If the "enemy" had been a regular army, it would have been a bad plan. Just pushing the enemy back is hardly a strategy at all. But when the other side is a guerilla force, this is simply foolish. It may cause the death of many soldiers, for no practical result.
Now he is trying to achieve a token victory, occupying empty space as far from the border as possible, after the UN has already called for an end to the hostilities. (As in almost all previous Israeli wars, this call is being ignored, in the hope of snatching some gains at the last moment.) Behind this line, Hezbollah remains intact in their bunkers.
[SIZE=7]H[/SIZE]owever, the chief of staff does not act in a vacuum. As commander in chief he has indeed a huge influence, but he is also merely the top of the military pyramid.
This war casts a dark shadow on the whole upper echelon of our army. I assume that there are some talented officers, but the general picture is of a senior officers corps that is mediocre, or worse, gray and unoriginal. Almost all the many officers who have appeared on TV are unimpressive, uninspiring professionals, experts on covering their behinds, repeating empty clichés like parrots.
The ex-generals, who have been crowding out everybody else in the TV and radio studios, have also mostly surprised us with their mediocrity, limited intelligence, and general ignorance. One gets the impression that they have not read books on military history, and fill the void with empty phrases.
More than once it has been said in this column that an army that has been acting for many years as a colonial police force against the Palestinian population – "terrorists," women, and children – and spending its time running after stone-throwing boys, cannot remain an efficient army. The test of results confirms this.
[SIZE=7]A[/SIZE]s after every failure of our military, the intelligence community is quick to cover its ass. Their chiefs declare that they knew everything, that they provided the troops with full and accurate information, that they are not to blame if the army did not act on it.
That does not sound reasonable. Judging from the reactions of the commanders in the field, they clearly were completely unaware of the defense system built by Hezbollah in southern Lebanon. The complex infrastructure of hidden bunkers, stocked with modern equipment and stockpiles of food and weapons, was a complete surprise for the army. It was not ready for these bunkers, including those built two or three kilometers from the border. They are reminiscent of the tunnels in Vietnam.
The intelligence community has also been corrupted by the long occupation of the Palestinian territories. They have gotten used to relying on the thousands of collaborators who have been recruited in the course of 39 years by torture, bribery, and extortion (junkies needing drugs, someone begging to be allowed to visit his dying mother, someone desiring a chunk from the cake of corruption, etc.). Clearly, no collaborators were found among Hezbollah, and without them intelligence is blind.
It is also clear that intelligence, and the army in general, was not ready for the deadly efficiency of Hezbollah's anti-tank weapons. Hard to believe, but according to official figures, more than 20 tanks were hit.
The Merkava ("carriage") tank is the pride of the army. Its father, Gen. Israel Tal, a victorious tank general, did not want only to build the world's most advanced tank, but also a tank that provided its crew with the best possible protection. Now it appears that an anti-tank weapon from the late 1980s that is available in large quantities can disable the tank, killing or grievously wounding the soldiers inside.
[SIZE=7]T[/SIZE]he common denominator of all the failures is the disdain for Arabs, a contempt that has dire consequences. It has caused total misunderstanding, a kind of blindness of Hezbollah's motives, attitudes, standing in Lebanese society, etc.
I am convinced that today's soldiers are in no way inferior to their predecessors. Their motivation is high, and they have shown great bravery in the evacuation of the wounded under fire. (I very much appreciate that in particular, since my own life was saved by soldiers who risked theirs to get me out under fire when I was wounded.) But the best soldiers cannot succeed when the command is incompetent.
History teaches that defeat can be a great blessing for an army. A victorious army rests on its laurels, it has no motive for self-criticism, it degenerates, its commanders become careless and lose the next war. (See: the Six Day War leading to the Yom Kippur War). A defeated army, on the other side, knows that it must rehabilitate itself. On one condition: that it admits defeat.
After this war, the chief of staff must be dismissed and the senior officer corps overhauled. For that, a minister of defense is needed who is not a marionette of the chief of staff. (But that concerns the political leadership, about whose failures and sins we shall speak another time.)
We, as people of peace, have a great interest in changing the military leadership. First, because it has a huge impact on the forming of policy and, as we just saw, irresponsible commanders can easily drag the government into dangerous adventures. And second, because even after achieving peace we shall need an efficient army – at least until the wolf lies down with the lamb, as the prophet Isaiah promised. (And not in the Israeli version: "No problem. One only has to bring a new lamb every day.")
[SIZE=7]T[/SIZE]he main lesson of the war, beyond all military analysis, lies in the five words we inscribed on our banner from the very first day: "There is no military solution!"
Even a strong army cannot defeat a guerilla organization, because the guerilla is a political phenomenon. Perhaps the opposite is true: the stronger the army, the better equipped with advanced technology, the smaller are its chances of winning such a confrontation. Our conflict – in the north, the center, and the south – is a political conflict, and can only be resolved by political means. The army is the instrument worst suited for that.
The war has proved that Hezbollah is a strong opponent, and any political solution in the north must include it. Since Syria is its strong ally, it must also be included. The settlement must be worthwhile for them too, otherwise it will not last.
The price is the return of the Golan Heights.
What is true in the north is also true in the south. The army will not defeat the Palestinians, because such a victory is altogether impossible. For the good of the army, it must be extricated from the quagmire.
If that now enters the consciousness of the Israeli public, something good may yet have come out of this war.

[john bell hood]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door is da waar

Uw joodse vriendjes hebben er anders wel een klungelboeltje van gemaakt
En ja johnson dit is door een israeli geschreven...

[SIZE=7]S[/SIZE]o what has happened to the Israeli army?
This question is now being raised not only around the world, but also in Israel itself. Clearly, there is a huge gap between the army's boastful arrogance, on which generations of Israelis have grown up, and the picture presented by this war.
Before the choir of generals utters its expected cries of being stabbed in the back – "The government has shackled our hands! The politicians did not allow the army to win! The political leadership is to blame for everything!" – it is worthwhile to examine this war from a professional military point of view.
(It is, perhaps, appropriate to interject at this point a personal remark. Who am I to speak about strategic matters? What am I, a general? Well – I was 16 years old when World War II broke out. I decided then to study military theory in order to be able to follow events. I read a few hundred books – from Sun Tzu to Clausewitz to Liddel-Hart and so on. Later, in the 1948 war, I saw the other side of the medal, as a soldier and squad-leader. I have written two books on the war. That does not make me a great strategist, but it does allow me to voice an informed opinion.)
The facts speak for themselves:
On the 32nd day of the war, Hezbollah is still standing and fighting. That by itself is a stunning feat: a small guerilla organization, with a few thousand fighters, is standing up to one of the strongest armies in the world and has not been broken after a month of "pulverizing." Since 1948, the armies of Egypt, Syria, and Jordan have repeatedly been beaten in wars that were much shorter.
As I have already said: if a lightweight boxer is fighting a heavyweight champion and is still standing in the 12th round, the victory is his – whatever the count of points says.
In the test of results – the only one that counts in war – the strategic and tactical command of Hezbollah is decidedly better than that of our own army. All along, our army's strategy has been primitive, brutal, and unsophisticated.
Clearly, Hezbollah has prepared well for this war – while the Israeli command has prepared for a quite different war.
On the level of individual fighters, the Hezbollah are not inferior to our soldiers, neither in bravery nor in initiative.
[SIZE=7]T[/SIZE]he main guilt for the failure belongs with Gen. Dan Halutz. I say "guilt" and not merely "responsibility," which comes with the job.
He is living proof of the fact that an inflated ego and a brutal attitude are not enough to create a competent chief of staff. The opposite may be true.
Halutz gained fame (or notoriety) when he was asked what he feels when he drops a one-ton bomb on a residential quarter and answered: "a slight bang on the wing." He added that afterwards he sleeps well at night. (In the same interview, he also called me and my friends "traitors" who should be prosecuted.)
Now it is already clear – again, in the test of results – that Dan Halutz is the worst chief of staff in the annals of the Israeli army, a completely incompetent officer for his job.
Recently he has changed his blue air force uniform for the green one of the land army. Too late.
Halutz started this war with the bluster of an air force officer. He believed that it was possible to crush Hezbollah by aerial bombardment, supplemented by artillery shelling from land and sea. He believed that if he destroyed the towns, neighborhoods, roads, and ports of Lebanon, the Lebanese people would rise and compel their government to remove Hezbollah. For a week he killed and devastated, until it became clear to everybody that this method achieves the opposite – strengthens Hezbollah, weakens its opponents within Lebanon and throughout the Arab world, and destroys the worldwide sympathy Israel enjoyed at the beginning of the war.
When he reached this point, Halutz did not know what to do next. For three weeks he sent his soldiers into Lebanon on senseless and hopeless missions, gaining nothing. Even in the battles that were fought in villages right on the border, no significant victories were achieved. After the fourth week, when he was requested to submit a plan to the government, it was unbelievably primitive.
If the "enemy" had been a regular army, it would have been a bad plan. Just pushing the enemy back is hardly a strategy at all. But when the other side is a guerilla force, this is simply foolish. It may cause the death of many soldiers, for no practical result.
Now he is trying to achieve a token victory, occupying empty space as far from the border as possible, after the UN has already called for an end to the hostilities. (As in almost all previous Israeli wars, this call is being ignored, in the hope of snatching some gains at the last moment.) Behind this line, Hezbollah remains intact in their bunkers.
[SIZE=7]H[/SIZE]owever, the chief of staff does not act in a vacuum. As commander in chief he has indeed a huge influence, but he is also merely the top of the military pyramid.
This war casts a dark shadow on the whole upper echelon of our army. I assume that there are some talented officers, but the general picture is of a senior officers corps that is mediocre, or worse, gray and unoriginal. Almost all the many officers who have appeared on TV are unimpressive, uninspiring professionals, experts on covering their behinds, repeating empty clichés like parrots.
The ex-generals, who have been crowding out everybody else in the TV and radio studios, have also mostly surprised us with their mediocrity, limited intelligence, and general ignorance. One gets the impression that they have not read books on military history, and fill the void with empty phrases.
More than once it has been said in this column that an army that has been acting for many years as a colonial police force against the Palestinian population – "terrorists," women, and children – and spending its time running after stone-throwing boys, cannot remain an efficient army. The test of results confirms this.
[SIZE=7]A[/SIZE]s after every failure of our military, the intelligence community is quick to cover its ass. Their chiefs declare that they knew everything, that they provided the troops with full and accurate information, that they are not to blame if the army did not act on it.
That does not sound reasonable. Judging from the reactions of the commanders in the field, they clearly were completely unaware of the defense system built by Hezbollah in southern Lebanon. The complex infrastructure of hidden bunkers, stocked with modern equipment and stockpiles of food and weapons, was a complete surprise for the army. It was not ready for these bunkers, including those built two or three kilometers from the border. They are reminiscent of the tunnels in Vietnam.
The intelligence community has also been corrupted by the long occupation of the Palestinian territories. They have gotten used to relying on the thousands of collaborators who have been recruited in the course of 39 years by torture, bribery, and extortion (junkies needing drugs, someone begging to be allowed to visit his dying mother, someone desiring a chunk from the cake of corruption, etc.). Clearly, no collaborators were found among Hezbollah, and without them intelligence is blind.
It is also clear that intelligence, and the army in general, was not ready for the deadly efficiency of Hezbollah's anti-tank weapons. Hard to believe, but according to official figures, more than 20 tanks were hit.
The Merkava ("carriage") tank is the pride of the army. Its father, Gen. Israel Tal, a victorious tank general, did not want only to build the world's most advanced tank, but also a tank that provided its crew with the best possible protection. Now it appears that an anti-tank weapon from the late 1980s that is available in large quantities can disable the tank, killing or grievously wounding the soldiers inside.
[SIZE=7]T[/SIZE]he common denominator of all the failures is the disdain for Arabs, a contempt that has dire consequences. It has caused total misunderstanding, a kind of blindness of Hezbollah's motives, attitudes, standing in Lebanese society, etc.
I am convinced that today's soldiers are in no way inferior to their predecessors. Their motivation is high, and they have shown great bravery in the evacuation of the wounded under fire. (I very much appreciate that in particular, since my own life was saved by soldiers who risked theirs to get me out under fire when I was wounded.) But the best soldiers cannot succeed when the command is incompetent.
History teaches that defeat can be a great blessing for an army. A victorious army rests on its laurels, it has no motive for self-criticism, it degenerates, its commanders become careless and lose the next war. (See: the Six Day War leading to the Yom Kippur War). A defeated army, on the other side, knows that it must rehabilitate itself. On one condition: that it admits defeat.
After this war, the chief of staff must be dismissed and the senior officer corps overhauled. For that, a minister of defense is needed who is not a marionette of the chief of staff. (But that concerns the political leadership, about whose failures and sins we shall speak another time.)
We, as people of peace, have a great interest in changing the military leadership. First, because it has a huge impact on the forming of policy and, as we just saw, irresponsible commanders can easily drag the government into dangerous adventures. And second, because even after achieving peace we shall need an efficient army – at least until the wolf lies down with the lamb, as the prophet Isaiah promised. (And not in the Israeli version: "No problem. One only has to bring a new lamb every day.")
[SIZE=7]T[/SIZE]he main lesson of the war, beyond all military analysis, lies in the five words we inscribed on our banner from the very first day: "There is no military solution!"
Even a strong army cannot defeat a guerilla organization, because the guerilla is a political phenomenon. Perhaps the opposite is true: the stronger the army, the better equipped with advanced technology, the smaller are its chances of winning such a confrontation. Our conflict – in the north, the center, and the south – is a political conflict, and can only be resolved by political means. The army is the instrument worst suited for that.
The war has proved that Hezbollah is a strong opponent, and any political solution in the north must include it. Since Syria is its strong ally, it must also be included. The settlement must be worthwhile for them too, otherwise it will not last.
The price is the return of the Golan Heights.
What is true in the north is also true in the south. The army will not defeat the Palestinians, because such a victory is altogether impossible. For the good of the army, it must be extricated from the quagmire.
If that now enters the consciousness of the Israeli public, something good may yet have come out of this war.

Er werd zoveel bereikt als kon met de ingezette middelen;meer had gekund met een operatie zoals in 1982 maar de huidige eerste minister is helaas geen Sharon.

[is da waar]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door john bell hood

Er werd zoveel bereikt als kon met de ingezette middelen;meer had gekund met een operatie zoals in 1982 maar de huidige eerste minister is helaas geen Sharon.

Dat betwijfel ik toch sterk, aangezien hezbollah hun anti tank wapens moordend waren tegen de merkava tanks. Ze hadden niet zoals de vorige keer op hun gemak tot aan (ben de naam van de rivier effe kwijt) kunnen rijden.

[filosoof]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door is da waar

Uw joodse vriendjes hebben er anders wel een klungelboeltje van gemaakt
En ja johnson dit is door een israeli geschreven...

So what has happened to the Israeli army?
Judging from the reactions of the commanders in the field, they clearly were completely unaware of the defense system built by Hezbollah in southern Lebanon. The complex infrastructure of hidden bunkers, stocked with modern equipment and stockpiles of food and weapons, was a complete surprise for the army. It was not ready for these bunkers, including those built two or three kilometers from the border. They are reminiscent of the tunnels in Vietnam.
.

Maar de Libanese regering in Beyroet, die wist helemaal van niets!
In their own backyard...
En wij moeten geloven wat Beyroet vertelt

[john bell hood]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door is da waar

Dat betwijfel ik toch sterk, aangezien hezbollah hun anti tank wapens moordend waren tegen de merkava tanks. Ze hadden niet zoals de vorige keer op hun gemak tot aan (ben de naam van de rivier effe kwijt) kunnen rijden.

Laat ons maar zeggen dat ge geen kaas van militaire tactiek gegeten hebt.

[is da waar]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door john bell hood

Laat ons maar zeggen dat ge geen kaas van militaire tactiek gegeten hebt.

Johnson, ik probeer te discusieren en dan antwoordt ge weer helemaal naast de kwestie.

En wat kent gij dan militaire tactieken...

[john bell hood]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door is da waar

Johnson, ik probeer te discusieren en dan antwoordt ge weer helemaal naast de kwestie.

En wat kent gij dan militaire tactieken...

Ik ken zeer veel van militaire tactiek en de Israëliers konden altijd geraken waar ze wilden,met of zonder moeite.Verliezen neemt ge er bij.

[Kaal]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door john bell hood

De aanwezigheid van de NVA en de VC in cambodja en laos tijdens de oorlog in viëtnam afdoen met :"de grenzen zijn in de jungle niet duidelijk"is bepaald geen uiting van realisme maar eerder van alles goedpraten van tegenstanders van de VS.

Dr Strangelove is een van de weinige VS-critici op dit forum die pragmatisch en berdeneerd te werk gaat. Hij is zeker geen dogmatische anti-Amerikaan.

[john bell hood]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Kaal

Dr Strangelove is een van de weinige VS-critici op dit forum die pragmatisch en berdeneerd te werk gaat. Hij is zeker geen dogmatische anti-Amerikaan.

Hij durft niet echt ingaan tegen de amerikanenhaters.

[is da waar]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door john bell hood

Ik ken zeer veel van militaire tactiek en de Israëliers konden altijd geraken waar ze wilden,met of zonder moeite.Verliezen neemt ge er bij.

Gij had u moeten opgeven om de aanval op hezbollah te leiden, dan was het mss niet zo'n klungelboel geweest

[john bell hood]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door is da waar

Gij had u moeten opgeven om de aanval op hezbollah te leiden, dan was het mss niet zo'n klungelboel geweest

Ongetwijfeld;het zou een zeer doortastende doortastende operatie zijn geweest.

[Enter]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door john bell hood

Ongetwijfeld;het zou een zeer doortastende doortastende operatie zijn geweest.

En het zou enkel het leven kosten aan een paar miljoen mannen, vrouwen, kinderen en huisdieren.

[filosoof]

Het nucleair programma is een chaos, cfr.
http://forum.politics.be/showpost.ph...3&postcount=24

en nu dit:
http://www.gva.be/nieuws/buitenland/...5-39E08D06865D}

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door GVA

05/03 'Leger Iran zwakker dan beweerd'



De felle retoriek van president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad doet anders vermoeden, maar het leger van Iran vormt geen enkele bedreiging voor zijn buurlanden.

Dat zeggen analisten die maandag op een conferentie over internationale veiligheid in Abu Dhabi bijeen zijn gekomen.

Zowel Iran als de Verenigde Staten en Israël overdrijven de dreiging die van Iran uitgaat, aldus Anthony Cordesman van het Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington. In werkelijkheid kan Iran zich volgens hem voorlopig alleen richten op de verdediging van zijn grondgebied. Het omstreden Iraanse atoomprogramma kan volgens de analist pas over een jaar of tien gevaarlijk worden.

Cordesman sprak vooral Arabische defensiefunctionarissen toe, die over het algemeen zeer wantrouwend staan tegenover de Iraanse intenties in het Midden-Oosten. Maar de Amerikaan had een geruststellende boodschap. Iran heeft de beschikking over slechts 1.600 verouderde tanks en ook de 260 toestellen van de Iraanse luchtmacht kunnen nauwelijks een bedreiging worden genoemd. De Iraanse ballistische raketten stammen qua technologie uit de jaren '60, zei Cordesman, en zijn waarschijnlijk net accuraat genoeg om een grote stad te treffen. Door hun relatief kleine lading zullen de raketten zelfs dan slechts zeer beperkte schade aanrichten. Het enige geavanceerde wapentuig dat Iran kan inzetten is een luchtverdedigingssysteem van Russische makelij.

Ahmadinejad is zeker geen idool voor mij, ik krijg een neiging tot misselijkheid als ik zijn teksten lees, maar
Iran is dus geen bedreiging, tenzij met holle woorden...
Iran heeft wél PETROLEUM!!!

Als iemand nog iets nodig heeft om de vergelijking met de Bushrethoriek en -leugens voor de blokkade en invasie in Irak te trekken...meer dan 1.155.000 burgerdoden te veel daar!
Hoeveel doden worden 't er deze keer?Wanneer begint de US over WMD in Iran?

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Het nucleair programma is een chaos, cfr.
http://forum.politics.be/showpost.ph...3&postcount=24

en nu dit:
http://www.gva.be/nieuws/buitenland/...5-39E08D06865D}
Ahmadinejad is zeker geen idool voor mij, ik krijg een neiging tot misselijkheid als ik zijn teksten lees, maar
Iran is dus geen bedreiging, tenzij met holle woorden...
Iran heeft wél PETROLEUM!!!

Als iemand nog iets nodig heeft om de vergelijking met de Bushrethoriek en -leugens voor de blokkade en invasie in Irak te trekken...meer dan 1.155.000 burgerdoden te veel daar!
Hoeveel doden worden 't er deze keer?Wanneer begint de US over WMD in Iran?

Waar ze in het Westen op aansturen is dus dit, je moet Iran niet aanvallen ze zijn nog veel te zwak, wacht beter nog een beetje tot het een echte uitdaging is geworden en de kans dat Iran veel schade kan aanrichten veel groter is!

[Kaal]

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En het zou enkel het leven kosten aan een paar miljoen mannen, vrouwen, kinderen en huisdieren.

Kunnen wij allemaal redelijk blijven met de cijfers aub? Jij en filosoof.