De grote 9/11 topic

[illwill]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Zeikstraal

Juist, ik ben in het nauw gedreven omdat die men nick "toepasselijk" vind. Dat is waar hij mee afkwam als argument op al het voorgaande, kan hij toch beter zen smoel houden?

Als je niet kan hard maken wat je beweerd kun je beter je smoel houden. Nogmaals, persoonlijk worden gaat iets veranderen.

[Zeikstraal]

Het is common sense, als je weet hoe alles daar werkt. Even belachelijk zou zijn dat ik zou moeten bewijzen dat Sinterklaas niet bestaat. Net zoals OJ Simpson zo schuldig als iets was. Net zoals ik u bewijzen geef dat ze wel degelijk bloed aan hun handen hebben.

Dus ipv van alles te ontwijken wat belangrijk is, daar ben je goed in en flauwekul in de plek verkondigen, kan je misschien beter je smoel houden. Kom weer als je wat meer weet hoe de wereld in elkaar zit.

[illwill]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Zeikstraal

Het is common sense, als je weet hoe alles daar werkt. Even belachelijk zou zijn dat ik zou moeten bewijzen dat Sinterklaas niet bestaat. Net zoals OJ Simpson zo schuldig als iets was. Net zoals ik u bewijzen geef dat ze wel degelijk bloed aan hun handen hebben.

Dus ipv van alles te ontwijken wat belangrijk is, daar ben je goed in en flauwekul in de plek verkondigen, kan je misschien beter je smoel houden. Kom weer als je wat meer weet hoe de wereld in elkaar zit.

Ivm 9/11 is het niet common sense, het gaat om bewijzen. Als je beweringen doet maar niet kan bewijzen betekenen ze niets en gaan ze automatisch op de stapel flauwe zever.
Je hebt geen enkel bewijs gegeven,je hebt beweringen gegeven en kan geen bron geven voor de vluchtgegevens.

Ik wil net zien wat belangrijk is maar je kan dit niet geven.
Ik zal zelf wel bepalen wanneer ik mijn smoel hou. Als je niet houd van vragen over je beweringen en als je niets kan hard maken zou ik zeker verder blijven zeveren. Dat maakt enkel maar hard dat je nergens bewijzen voor hebt.

[Zeikstraal]

Beweringen van 60% van de officieele commissie, daarbovenop congresmannen, militaire leiders, intelligence professionals, wetenschappers, ingenieurs en architecten die zeggen dat alles stinkt.

[Zeikstraal]

Wat belangrijk is maar u vakkundig ontwijkt omdat u er niks kan op aanbrengen??
Zwijgen doe je bijgevolg dus sowieso en verwerpt al de rest dat je uitkraamt


9/11 Panel Suspected Deception by Pentagon

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...080101300.html

Former Sen. Max Cleland blasts Bush's "Nixonian" stonewalling of the 9/11 commission, his "lies" about Iraq, and his flight-suit photo op on the USS Lincoln after "hiding out" during Vietnam.

“It is a national scandal. This investigation is now compromised. One of these days we will have to get the full story because the 9/11 issue is so important to America. But this White House wants to cover it up.”

http://dir.salon.com/story/news/feat...ndex.html?pn=1


Plans For Iraq Attack Began On 9/11 2001

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/...in520830.shtml

Hoe alles al uitgetekend was voor 9/11 door niemand minder dan u raad mensen als Dick Cheney hemzelve. We leven zen blueprint. Wat kwam 9/11 toch goed uit

The building of Pax Americana has become possible, claims "RAD," because the fall of the Soviet Union gave the United States status as the world's preeminent superpower. Consequently the US must now work hard, not only to maintain that position, but to spread its military might into geographic areas that are ideologically opposed to its influence, waging "multiple simultaneous large-scale wars" to subdue countries that may stand in the way of US global preeminence. Rationales offered for going to war with other nations are the preservation of the "American peace" and the spread of "democracy."

4 belangrijke punten

"Homeland Defense. . . . the United States . . . must counteract the effects of the proliferation of ballistic missiles and weapons of mass destruction that may soon allow lesser states to deter US military action by threatening US allies and the American homeland itself. Of all the new and current missions for US armed forces, this must have priority.

"Large Wars. Second, the United States must retain sufficient forces able to rapidly deploy and win multiple simultaneous large-scale wars and also to be able to respond to unanticipated contingencies in regions where it does not maintain forward-based forces.

"Constabulary Duties. Third, the Pentagon must retain forces to preserve the current peace in ways that fall short of conducting major theater campaigns. . . . These duties are today's most frequent missions, requiring forces configured for combat but capable of long-term, independent constabulary operations.

"Transform US Armed Forces. Finally, the Pentagon must begin now to exploit the so-called 'revolution in military affairs,' sparked by the introduction of advanced technologies into military systems; this must be regarded as a separate and critical mission worthy of a share of force structure and defense budgets" (p. 6).

". . . the failure to provide sufficient forces to execute these four missions must result in problems for American strategy. And the failure to prepare for tomorrow's challenges will ensure that the current Pax Americana comes to an early end" (p. 13).

http://www.newamericancentury.org/Re...asDefenses.pdf

The following is a quote from Mayor Giuliani during an interview on 9/11 with Peter Jennings for ABC News. “I went down to the scene and we set up headquarters at 75 Barkley Street, which was right there with the Police Commissioner, the Fire Commissioner, the Head of Emergency Management, and we were operating out of there when we were told that the World Trade Center was going to collapse. And it did collapse before we could actually get out of the building, so we were trapped in the building for 10, 15 minutes, and finally found an exit and got out, walked north, and took a lot of people with us.”

WHO TOLD HIM THIS??? To this day, the answer to this question remains unanswered, completely ignored and emphatically DENIED by Mayor Giuliani on several public occasions.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vCg8Fp8aw8

http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHART..._giuliani.html

On September 12th 2007, CNN’s ‘Anderson Cooper 360′, reported that the mysterious “white plane” spotted and videotaped by multiple media outlets, flying in restricted airspace over the White House shortly before 10am on the morning of 9/11, was in fact the Air Force’s E-4B, a specially modified Boeing 747 with a communications pod behind the cockpit; otherwise known as “The Doomsday Plane”.

Though fully aware of the event, the 9/11 Commission did not deem the appearance of the military plane to be of any interest and did not include it in the final 9/11 Commission report.

http://rawstory.com/news/2007/CNN_in...lane_0913.html

Flight 93 is fourth plane to crash on 9/11 at 10:03am. Cheney only gives shoot down order at 10:10-10:20am and this is not communicated to NORAD until 28 minutes after Flight 93 has crashed.

"A shootdown authorization was not communicated to the NORAD air defense sector until 28 minutes after United 93 had crashed in Pennsylvania. Planes were scrambled, but ineffectively, as they did not know where to go or what targets they were to intercept. And once the shootdown order was given, it was not communicated to the pilots. In short, while leaders in Washington believed that the fighters circling above them had been instructed to "take out" hostile aircraft, the only orders actually conveyed to the pilots were to "ID type and tail."

http://www.9-11commission.gov/report/911Report_Exec.htm

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2004Jun17.html

Scores of main stream news outlets reported that the F.B.I. conducted an investigation of at least FIVE of the 9/11 hijackers being trained at U.S. military flight schools. Those investigations are now sealed and need to be declassified. Why?

http://www.newsweek.com/id/75797

http://www.nytimes.com/2002/05/18/us...-training.html

http://www.greenspun.com/bboard/q-an...?msg_id=008z7U

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/2121480.stm

9/11 "black box" cover-up at Ground Zero?

http://www.pnionline.com/dnblog/extr...es/001139.html

New NEWS - BBC Video - WTC 7 - Prior Knowledge

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1LetB0z8_o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNK1V6S2cbo

What is the meaning behind the following quote attributed to Dick Cheney which came to light during the 9/11 Commission hearings? The passage is taken from testimony given by Secretary of Transportation Norman Mineta.

During the time that the airplane was coming in to the Pentagon, there was a young man who would come in and say to the Vice President, "The plane is 50 miles out." "The plane is 30 miles out." And when it got down to "the plane is 10 miles out," the young man also said to the Vice President, "Do the orders still stand?" And the Vice President turned and whipped his neck around and said, "Of course the orders still stand. Have you heard anything to the contrary?"

As the plane was not shot down, in addition to the fact that armed fighter jets were nowhere near the plane and the Pentagon defensive system was not activated., are we to take it that the orders were to let the plane find its target?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDfdOwt2v3Y

In May 2003, the Miami Herald reported how the Bush administration was refusing to release a 900-page congressional report on 9/11 because it wanted to "avoid enshrining embarrassing details in the report," particularly regarding pre-9/11 warnings as well as the fact that the hijackers were trained at U.S. flight schools.

http://www.truthout.org/article/whit...e-sept-11-info

Newsweek twice reported that top Pentagon officials had got a warning of the impending attack on September 10th, and cancelled their flights for the next day. This confirms that these officials knew both the general locations of the attack and the method of using jetliners as bombs.

"On Sept. 10, NEWSWEEK has learned, a group of top Pentagon officials suddenly canceled travel plans for the next morning, apparently because of security concerns."

http://www.newsweek.com/id/76065/output/print

Mayor of San Francisco Willie Brown was set to fly into New York on the morning of September 11. However, he got a call from what he described as his "airport security" late September 10th advising against flying due to a security threat. Pacifica Radio later reported that the source of the warning was Secretary of State Condoleeza Rice.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...2/MN229389.DTL

A few days after the attack, several newspapers reported that a paper passport had been found in the ruins of the WTC.

In August 2004, CNN reported that 9/11 hijacker Ziad Jarrah's visa was found in the remains of Flight 93 which went down in Shanksville, Pennsylvania.

At least a third of the WTC victim's bodies were vaporized and many of the victims of the Pentagon incident were burned beyond recognition. And yet visas and paper passports which identify the perpetrators and back up the official version of events miraculously survive explosions and fires that we are told melted steel buildings.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles...4visafound.htm

http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_ho.../17011253.html

[Dixie]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door illwill

Ivm 9/11 is het niet common sense, het gaat om bewijzen. Als je beweringen doet maar niet kan bewijzen betekenen ze niets en gaan ze automatisch op de stapel flauwe zever.
Je hebt geen enkel bewijs gegeven,je hebt beweringen gegeven en kan geen bron geven voor de vluchtgegevens.

Ik wil net zien wat belangrijk is maar je kan dit niet geven.
Ik zal zelf wel bepalen wanneer ik mijn smoel hou. Als je niet houd van vragen over je beweringen en als je niets kan hard maken zou ik zeker verder blijven zeveren. Dat maakt enkel maar hard dat je nergens bewijzen voor hebt.

idd!!!

[parcifal]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Zeikstraal

Beweringen van 60% van de officieele commissie, daarbovenop congresmannen, militaire leiders, intelligence professionals, wetenschappers, ingenieurs en architecten die zeggen dat alles stinkt.

Wel, waarom is de algemen consensus dan nog altijd dat het officiele verhaal het dichtst bij de waarheid aanleunt?

Een overgrote meerderheid van technische en wetenschappelijke professionals, van journalisten en van politici, zijn er nog steeds van overtuigt dat de believer-verhaaltjes grotendeels bollocks zijn.

Je kan dat het eenvoudigst vaststellen aan het tanende succes van de truther-bewegingen en aan het feit dat er nog geen enkel wetenschappelijk artikel verschenen is (dat standhield), waar ook ter wereld, waarbij de onmogelijkheid van het officiele verhaal werd aangetoond.

Hoe verklaar je dat?
Een alomvattend complot, waar miljoenen mensen inzitten?
Ockham's razor wijst een heel andere kant op.

[illwill]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Zeikstraal

Beweringen van 60% van de officieele commissie, daarbovenop congresmannen, militaire leiders, intelligence professionals, wetenschappers, ingenieurs en architecten die zeggen dat alles stinkt.

Leugens.

[Zeikstraal]

Zogby Poll: 51% of Americans Want Congress to Probe Bush/Cheney Regarding 9/11 Attacks; Over 30% Seek Immediate Impeachment

67% also fault 9/11 Commission for not investigating anomalous collapse of World Trade Center 7

http://www.zogby.com/news/readnews.cfm?ID=1354

Waarom politiekers er niet voor uitkomen is wel duidelijk, dat kost hun job. Van Jones rings a bell? Media brainwash. En de meeste gewone mensen interesseert het niet eens

[Zeikstraal]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door illwill

Leugens.

U zei? Idd, u zwijgt

[Zeikstraal]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Dixie

idd!!!

Hahaha, zie hem verbroederen. Maar iets nuttig melden ho maar

[Zeikstraal]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door parcifal

Wel, waarom is de algemen consensus dan nog altijd dat het officiele verhaal het dichtst bij de waarheid aanleunt?

Een overgrote meerderheid van technische en wetenschappelijke professionals, van journalisten en van politici, zijn er nog steeds van overtuigt dat de believer-verhaaltjes grotendeels bollocks zijn.

Je kan dat het eenvoudigst vaststellen aan het tanende succes van de truther-bewegingen en aan het feit dat er nog geen enkel wetenschappelijk artikel verschenen is (dat standhield), waar ook ter wereld, waarbij de onmogelijkheid van het officiele verhaal werd aangetoond.

Hoe verklaar je dat?
Een alomvattend complot, waar miljoenen mensen inzitten?
Ockham's razor wijst een heel andere kant op.

Bewijs dat

[illwill]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Zeikstraal

U zei? Idd, u zwijgt

Waar zwijg ik over?

[Zeikstraal]

Ge hebt niks zinnig te zeggen, de dingen waar ge moet op antwoorden ontwijkt ge. Waarom nog posten

[illwill]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Zeikstraal

Ge hebt niks zinnig te zeggen, de dingen waar ge moet op antwoorden ontwijkt ge. Waarom nog posten

Ik ontwijk niets, waar heb je het over?

ALs er iemand iets ontwijkt zijn het degene die hun bronnen niet kunnen vrijgeven.

[Zeikstraal]

Antwoord op de gestelde vragen en uw opinie over de overige abnormailiteiten

9/11 Panel Suspected Deception by Pentagon

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...080101300.html

Former Sen. Max Cleland blasts Bush's "Nixonian" stonewalling of the 9/11 commission, his "lies" about Iraq, and his flight-suit photo op on the USS Lincoln after "hiding out" during Vietnam.

“It is a national scandal. This investigation is now compromised. One of these days we will have to get the full story because the 9/11 issue is so important to America. But this White House wants to cover it up.”

http://dir.salon.com/story/news/feat...ndex.html?pn=1


Plans For Iraq Attack Began On 9/11 2001

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/...in520830.shtml

Hoe alles al uitgetekend was voor 9/11 door niemand minder dan u raad mensen als Dick Cheney hemzelve. We leven zen blueprint. Wat kwam 9/11 toch goed uit

The building of Pax Americana has become possible, claims "RAD," because the fall of the Soviet Union gave the United States status as the world's preeminent superpower. Consequently the US must now work hard, not only to maintain that position, but to spread its military might into geographic areas that are ideologically opposed to its influence, waging "multiple simultaneous large-scale wars" to subdue countries that may stand in the way of US global preeminence. Rationales offered for going to war with other nations are the preservation of the "American peace" and the spread of "democracy."

4 belangrijke punten

"Homeland Defense. . . . the United States . . . must counteract the effects of the proliferation of ballistic missiles and weapons of mass destruction that may soon allow lesser states to deter US military action by threatening US allies and the American homeland itself. Of all the new and current missions for US armed forces, this must have priority.

"Large Wars. Second, the United States must retain sufficient forces able to rapidly deploy and win multiple simultaneous large-scale wars and also to be able to respond to unanticipated contingencies in regions where it does not maintain forward-based forces.

"Constabulary Duties. Third, the Pentagon must retain forces to preserve the current peace in ways that fall short of conducting major theater campaigns. . . . These duties are today's most frequent missions, requiring forces configured for combat but capable of long-term, independent constabulary operations.

"Transform US Armed Forces. Finally, the Pentagon must begin now to exploit the so-called 'revolution in military affairs,' sparked by the introduction of advanced technologies into military systems; this must be regarded as a separate and critical mission worthy of a share of force structure and defense budgets" (p. 6).

". . . the failure to provide sufficient forces to execute these four missions must result in problems for American strategy. And the failure to prepare for tomorrow's challenges will ensure that the current Pax Americana comes to an early end" (p. 13).

http://www.newamericancentury.org/Re...asDefenses.pdf

The following is a quote from Mayor Giuliani during an interview on 9/11 with Peter Jennings for ABC News. “I went down to the scene and we set up headquarters at 75 Barkley Street, which was right there with the Police Commissioner, the Fire Commissioner, the Head of Emergency Management, and we were operating out of there when we were told that the World Trade Center was going to collapse. And it did collapse before we could actually get out of the building, so we were trapped in the building for 10, 15 minutes, and finally found an exit and got out, walked north, and took a lot of people with us.”

WHO TOLD HIM THIS??? To this day, the answer to this question remains unanswered, completely ignored and emphatically DENIED by Mayor Giuliani on several public occasions.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vCg8Fp8aw8

http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHART..._giuliani.html

On September 12th 2007, CNN’s ‘Anderson Cooper 360′, reported that the mysterious “white plane” spotted and videotaped by multiple media outlets, flying in restricted airspace over the White House shortly before 10am on the morning of 9/11, was in fact the Air Force’s E-4B, a specially modified Boeing 747 with a communications pod behind the cockpit; otherwise known as “The Doomsday Plane”.

Though fully aware of the event, the 9/11 Commission did not deem the appearance of the military plane to be of any interest and did not include it in the final 9/11 Commission report.

http://rawstory.com/news/2007/CNN_in...lane_0913.html

Flight 93 is fourth plane to crash on 9/11 at 10:03am. Cheney only gives shoot down order at 10:10-10:20am and this is not communicated to NORAD until 28 minutes after Flight 93 has crashed.

"A shootdown authorization was not communicated to the NORAD air defense sector until 28 minutes after United 93 had crashed in Pennsylvania. Planes were scrambled, but ineffectively, as they did not know where to go or what targets they were to intercept. And once the shootdown order was given, it was not communicated to the pilots. In short, while leaders in Washington believed that the fighters circling above them had been instructed to "take out" hostile aircraft, the only orders actually conveyed to the pilots were to "ID type and tail."

http://www.9-11commission.gov/report/911Report_Exec.htm

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2004Jun17.html

Scores of main stream news outlets reported that the F.B.I. conducted an investigation of at least FIVE of the 9/11 hijackers being trained at U.S. military flight schools. Those investigations are now sealed and need to be declassified. Why?

http://www.newsweek.com/id/75797

http://www.nytimes.com/2002/05/18/us...-training.html

http://www.greenspun.com/bboard/q-an...?msg_id=008z7U

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/2121480.stm

9/11 "black box" cover-up at Ground Zero?

http://www.pnionline.com/dnblog/extr...es/001139.html

New NEWS - BBC Video - WTC 7 - Prior Knowledge

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1LetB0z8_o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNK1V6S2cbo

What is the meaning behind the following quote attributed to Dick Cheney which came to light during the 9/11 Commission hearings? The passage is taken from testimony given by Secretary of Transportation Norman Mineta.

During the time that the airplane was coming in to the Pentagon, there was a young man who would come in and say to the Vice President, "The plane is 50 miles out." "The plane is 30 miles out." And when it got down to "the plane is 10 miles out," the young man also said to the Vice President, "Do the orders still stand?" And the Vice President turned and whipped his neck around and said, "Of course the orders still stand. Have you heard anything to the contrary?"

As the plane was not shot down, in addition to the fact that armed fighter jets were nowhere near the plane and the Pentagon defensive system was not activated., are we to take it that the orders were to let the plane find its target?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDfdOwt2v3Y

In May 2003, the Miami Herald reported how the Bush administration was refusing to release a 900-page congressional report on 9/11 because it wanted to "avoid enshrining embarrassing details in the report," particularly regarding pre-9/11 warnings as well as the fact that the hijackers were trained at U.S. flight schools.

http://www.truthout.org/article/whit...e-sept-11-info

Newsweek twice reported that top Pentagon officials had got a warning of the impending attack on September 10th, and cancelled their flights for the next day. This confirms that these officials knew both the general locations of the attack and the method of using jetliners as bombs.

"On Sept. 10, NEWSWEEK has learned, a group of top Pentagon officials suddenly canceled travel plans for the next morning, apparently because of security concerns."

http://www.newsweek.com/id/76065/output/print

Mayor of San Francisco Willie Brown was set to fly into New York on the morning of September 11. However, he got a call from what he described as his "airport security" late September 10th advising against flying due to a security threat. Pacifica Radio later reported that the source of the warning was Secretary of State Condoleeza Rice.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...2/MN229389.DTL

A few days after the attack, several newspapers reported that a paper passport had been found in the ruins of the WTC.

In August 2004, CNN reported that 9/11 hijacker Ziad Jarrah's visa was found in the remains of Flight 93 which went down in Shanksville, Pennsylvania.

At least a third of the WTC victim's bodies were vaporized and many of the victims of the Pentagon incident were burned beyond recognition. And yet visas and paper passports which identify the perpetrators and back up the official version of events miraculously survive explosions and fires that we are told melted steel buildings.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles...4visafound.htm

http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_ho.../17011253.html

[Micele]

Pentagon-video meer ingezoomde beelden !:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...2776368461735#
Loose Change Final Cut Deutsch

... eerst niet meer als 5 aparte beelden van de pas in maart 2002 vrijgegeven video.

Alle andere videobeelden werden 24hr na 9/11 in beslag genomen, het terrein werd onmiddellijk na de crash afgezet door de FBI... niets te zien op het gras...

En ineens moeten ze in maart 2006 dezelfde video -wel alle beelden- betreffende video vrijgeven (na aanvraag oktober 2004)... daar lijken veel belangrijke beelden bijgekomen, en vooral ingezoomde:

> pauzeer op 2´12- 2´13" hmmm wit langwerpig ding, zeer weinig vleugel...
> pauzeer op 2´28- 2´30" hmmm enkel witte rook ? waar is plots die knalrode kerosinebrand ?

(er is zelfs sprake van 85 camera-opnames...)

Verder in de video :
- hoe kan zo´n terrorist-brokken piloot zo een bocht vliegen aan zulke snelheid ?
Radaroperators en experten dachten dat het (minstens) een straaljager moest zijn met een zeer ervaren piloot die iets wilde onderscheppen bvb ...

- tegen het einde vd video :
opnieuw wie liegt er hier : Mineta of D. Cheney ?

D.Cheney zei dat hij pas om 9h 58 in de bunker was.
Mineta zei dat Cheney om 9h 26 zeker al daar was.

9/11 Commissie weerhoudde Mineta´s testimoney niet... Hallo. logisch zeker... ?

Cheney had alleszins de buitenste blokken vh Pentagon kunnen laten ontruimen vanuit de richting vanwaar "het vliegtuig of die witte banaan kwam " alle naar de binnenkoer ... 125 Pentagon-slachtoffers minder ?
Ach so, weeral "no comment" ?

Het vliegtuig was toch nog op 80 km en meer verwijderd.... remember Mineta : "...50 miles out... 30 miles out... 10 miles out .... the order... " wtf the order ?

Cheney lulde zich daar uit met het Witte huis als mogelijk doel ipv het Pentagon ?
Ja, waarom liet hij dan niet het Witte huis ontruimen én het Pentagon ?

Waar zat Rumsfeld ? toch de secretary of Defense ?
Rumsfeld zou van 9h xx tot 9 h xx een 1/2 uur onvindbaar geweest zijn, nadien zei hij dat hij ergens telefoneerde...
Dan om 9hxx hr naar een vergadering of koffiepauze -met TV van de crashes- ... waarjuist ?
naja aan de andere kant vh Pentagon...

[illwill]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Zeikstraal

Antwoord op de gestelde vragen en uw opinie over de overige abnormailiteiten

9/11 Panel Suspected Deception by Pentagon

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...080101300.html

Former Sen. Max Cleland blasts Bush's "Nixonian" stonewalling of the 9/11 commission, his "lies" about Iraq, and his flight-suit photo op on the USS Lincoln after "hiding out" during Vietnam.

“It is a national scandal. This investigation is now compromised. One of these days we will have to get the full story because the 9/11 issue is so important to America. But this White House wants to cover it up.”

http://dir.salon.com/story/news/feat...ndex.html?pn=1


Plans For Iraq Attack Began On 9/11 2001

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/...in520830.shtml

Hoe alles al uitgetekend was voor 9/11 door niemand minder dan u raad mensen als Dick Cheney hemzelve. We leven zen blueprint. Wat kwam 9/11 toch goed uit

The building of Pax Americana has become possible, claims "RAD," because the fall of the Soviet Union gave the United States status as the world's preeminent superpower. Consequently the US must now work hard, not only to maintain that position, but to spread its military might into geographic areas that are ideologically opposed to its influence, waging "multiple simultaneous large-scale wars" to subdue countries that may stand in the way of US global preeminence. Rationales offered for going to war with other nations are the preservation of the "American peace" and the spread of "democracy."

4 belangrijke punten

"Homeland Defense. . . . the United States . . . must counteract the effects of the proliferation of ballistic missiles and weapons of mass destruction that may soon allow lesser states to deter US military action by threatening US allies and the American homeland itself. Of all the new and current missions for US armed forces, this must have priority.

"Large Wars. Second, the United States must retain sufficient forces able to rapidly deploy and win multiple simultaneous large-scale wars and also to be able to respond to unanticipated contingencies in regions where it does not maintain forward-based forces.

"Constabulary Duties. Third, the Pentagon must retain forces to preserve the current peace in ways that fall short of conducting major theater campaigns. . . . These duties are today's most frequent missions, requiring forces configured for combat but capable of long-term, independent constabulary operations.

"Transform US Armed Forces. Finally, the Pentagon must begin now to exploit the so-called 'revolution in military affairs,' sparked by the introduction of advanced technologies into military systems; this must be regarded as a separate and critical mission worthy of a share of force structure and defense budgets" (p. 6).

". . . the failure to provide sufficient forces to execute these four missions must result in problems for American strategy. And the failure to prepare for tomorrow's challenges will ensure that the current Pax Americana comes to an early end" (p. 13).

http://www.newamericancentury.org/Re...asDefenses.pdf

The following is a quote from Mayor Giuliani during an interview on 9/11 with Peter Jennings for ABC News. “I went down to the scene and we set up headquarters at 75 Barkley Street, which was right there with the Police Commissioner, the Fire Commissioner, the Head of Emergency Management, and we were operating out of there when we were told that the World Trade Center was going to collapse. And it did collapse before we could actually get out of the building, so we were trapped in the building for 10, 15 minutes, and finally found an exit and got out, walked north, and took a lot of people with us.”

WHO TOLD HIM THIS??? To this day, the answer to this question remains unanswered, completely ignored and emphatically DENIED by Mayor Giuliani on several public occasions.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vCg8Fp8aw8

http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHART..._giuliani.html

On September 12th 2007, CNN’s ‘Anderson Cooper 360′, reported that the mysterious “white plane” spotted and videotaped by multiple media outlets, flying in restricted airspace over the White House shortly before 10am on the morning of 9/11, was in fact the Air Force’s E-4B, a specially modified Boeing 747 with a communications pod behind the cockpit; otherwise known as “The Doomsday Plane”.

Though fully aware of the event, the 9/11 Commission did not deem the appearance of the military plane to be of any interest and did not include it in the final 9/11 Commission report.

http://rawstory.com/news/2007/CNN_in...lane_0913.html

Flight 93 is fourth plane to crash on 9/11 at 10:03am. Cheney only gives shoot down order at 10:10-10:20am and this is not communicated to NORAD until 28 minutes after Flight 93 has crashed.

"A shootdown authorization was not communicated to the NORAD air defense sector until 28 minutes after United 93 had crashed in Pennsylvania. Planes were scrambled, but ineffectively, as they did not know where to go or what targets they were to intercept. And once the shootdown order was given, it was not communicated to the pilots. In short, while leaders in Washington believed that the fighters circling above them had been instructed to "take out" hostile aircraft, the only orders actually conveyed to the pilots were to "ID type and tail."

http://www.9-11commission.gov/report/911Report_Exec.htm

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2004Jun17.html

Scores of main stream news outlets reported that the F.B.I. conducted an investigation of at least FIVE of the 9/11 hijackers being trained at U.S. military flight schools. Those investigations are now sealed and need to be declassified. Why?

http://www.newsweek.com/id/75797

http://www.nytimes.com/2002/05/18/us...-training.html

http://www.greenspun.com/bboard/q-an...?msg_id=008z7U

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/2121480.stm

9/11 "black box" cover-up at Ground Zero?

http://www.pnionline.com/dnblog/extr...es/001139.html

New NEWS - BBC Video - WTC 7 - Prior Knowledge

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1LetB0z8_o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNK1V6S2cbo

What is the meaning behind the following quote attributed to Dick Cheney which came to light during the 9/11 Commission hearings? The passage is taken from testimony given by Secretary of Transportation Norman Mineta.

During the time that the airplane was coming in to the Pentagon, there was a young man who would come in and say to the Vice President, "The plane is 50 miles out." "The plane is 30 miles out." And when it got down to "the plane is 10 miles out," the young man also said to the Vice President, "Do the orders still stand?" And the Vice President turned and whipped his neck around and said, "Of course the orders still stand. Have you heard anything to the contrary?"

As the plane was not shot down, in addition to the fact that armed fighter jets were nowhere near the plane and the Pentagon defensive system was not activated., are we to take it that the orders were to let the plane find its target?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDfdOwt2v3Y

In May 2003, the Miami Herald reported how the Bush administration was refusing to release a 900-page congressional report on 9/11 because it wanted to "avoid enshrining embarrassing details in the report," particularly regarding pre-9/11 warnings as well as the fact that the hijackers were trained at U.S. flight schools.

http://www.truthout.org/article/whit...e-sept-11-info

Newsweek twice reported that top Pentagon officials had got a warning of the impending attack on September 10th, and cancelled their flights for the next day. This confirms that these officials knew both the general locations of the attack and the method of using jetliners as bombs.

"On Sept. 10, NEWSWEEK has learned, a group of top Pentagon officials suddenly canceled travel plans for the next morning, apparently because of security concerns."

http://www.newsweek.com/id/76065/output/print

Mayor of San Francisco Willie Brown was set to fly into New York on the morning of September 11. However, he got a call from what he described as his "airport security" late September 10th advising against flying due to a security threat. Pacifica Radio later reported that the source of the warning was Secretary of State Condoleeza Rice.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...2/MN229389.DTL

A few days after the attack, several newspapers reported that a paper passport had been found in the ruins of the WTC.

In August 2004, CNN reported that 9/11 hijacker Ziad Jarrah's visa was found in the remains of Flight 93 which went down in Shanksville, Pennsylvania.

At least a third of the WTC victim's bodies were vaporized and many of the victims of the Pentagon incident were burned beyond recognition. And yet visas and paper passports which identify the perpetrators and back up the official version of events miraculously survive explosions and fires that we are told melted steel buildings.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles...4visafound.htm

http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_ho.../17011253.html

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