Waarom zijn er vluchtelingen ?

[Bobke]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Jantje

Een mens kan ongeveer 15kilogram vis per uur kuisen en filleren.
De vangst per boot en per net blijft hetzelfde.
De hoeveelheden die men kan laden in de transportmiddelen blijven hetzelfde.
Maar je moet mensen die nu werken tegen een nettoloon van 2$ per dag en 12 uur per dag 7dagen op 7 werken, een nettoloon van 6€ per uur gaan uitbetalen en je mag ze nog slechts 40 per week laten werken.
Je krijgt dus een meer kost om U tegen te zeggen
12*7= 84uur.
je hebt dus per arbeider minsten een tweede nodig.
2$ per 12uur = 2/12=0.1666$/u.
1,0000 EUR = 1,3621 USD
2$= 1.4683€
1.4683/12= 0.1223euro per uur.

Om naar dezelfde lonen en rechten zoals hier te gaan, moet je dus niet enkel het nettoloon rekenen, maar ook alle bijdragen voor de sociale zekerheden en belastingen.
Je werknemer kost dan geen 6€ maar 18€ per uur. Of 150 keer zoveel als nu.
Je vissers, kuisers, verpakkers, laders, lossers, chauffeurs enz..
kosten dus allemaal 150keer meer.
Als bedrijf moet je dat geld ergens vandaan halen!!!!

En waar kan je dat vandaan halen?

Juist enkel bij je klanten!!! En die klanten zijn de westerse bevolking.



Ben jij bereid om 150 maal meer te betalen voor je koffie, bananen, appelsienen, granen, vis, groenten, energiedragers, kleren, auto, enz...

Want de kosten tellen niet enkel voor de ingevoerde vis, maar voor alle ingevoerde producten.

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Jantje

Jongen toch, meer dan 3/4 van dat voedsel word zelfs gewoon gestolen van de plaatselijke bevolking.
Vissers die niet meer in hun rivieren mogen vissen of geen vis meer kunnen vangen door de overbevissing.

[artisjok]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door alice

Nee, ik heb niet specifiek al uw post gelezen maar wat u vertelt is vreselijk en totaal fout!

Dit is een goeike.
Je hebt het niet gelezen, maar weet wel dat het vreselijk en totaal fout is.

[Wisord]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door artisjok

Dit is een goeike.
Je hebt het niet gelezen, maar weet wel dat het vreselijk en totaal fout is.

Het is hier alsmaar beter aan het worden .

[alice]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door artisjok

Dit is een goeike.
Je hebt het niet gelezen, maar weet wel dat het vreselijk en totaal fout is.

Mocht u gelezen hebben waarop mijn repliek sloeg zou je niet zo een domme reactie geven; waaruit blijkt dat je zelf niets gelezen hebt.

[alice]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Wisord

Het is hier alsmaar beter aan het worden .

Nog eentje die reageert maar zelf dus niets gelezen heeft!

[Kallikles]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door artisjok

Dit is een goeike.
Je hebt het niet gelezen, maar weet wel dat het vreselijk en totaal fout is.

[alice]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Kallikles

En nog zo eentje..leuke verzameling aan het worden!

[artisjok]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Jantje

Je heb niets verkeerd begrepen, je bent enkele economische wetten vergeten.

Door een stijging van de levenstandaard in andere gebieden, stijgt namelijk ook de vraag naar goederen en dus de kostprijs van de grondstoffen.

De gevolgen hiervan zien we nu al bij de energieprijzen.
Aardolie en aardgas zijn sinds de opkomst van de Chinese economie niet enkel verdubbeld, maar zelfs onbetaalbaar aan het worden.

Vrij vertaalt kan je zeggen, dat de opkomst van de economie in China en India, de ondergang van de Europese en Amerikaanse economie veroorzaakt.

Zorg nu nog even dat ook in Afrika en het midden-oosten de economie groeit en die in Europa en Amerika vervallen nog meer.

Of om het zeer duidelijk te maken, als je de mensen in andere gebieden dezelfde rechten, mogelijkheden en levenstandaard en je moet ergens anders zaken wegnemen.

Onze aarde is namelijk overbevolkt met mensen en kan zelfs de huidige situatie niet aan, laat staan dat je heel de wereld onze levenstandaard zou geven. Dan heb je niet 1 maar 7 aardes nodig.

Omdat je schattingen nogal ver uit elkaar liggen, en economie niet mijn sterkste vak is, ben ik het gaan vragen in het subforum economie.
http://forum.politics.be/showthread.php?t=149738

[Wisord]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door artisjok

Omdat je schattingen nogal ver uit elkaar liggen, en economie niet mijn sterkste vak is, ben ik het gaan vragen in het subforum economie.
http://forum.politics.be/showthread.php?t=149738

Goed van u ....

[Jantje]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door artisjok

Omdat je schattingen nogal ver uit elkaar liggen, en economie niet mijn sterkste vak is, ben ik het gaan vragen in het subforum economie.
http://forum.politics.be/showthread.php?t=149738

De schattingen liggen inderdaad ver uit elkaar, dit omdat het niet enkel economisch kan gezien worden, maar veel breder is.

[Wisord]

Lijst met slachtoffers (vluchtelingen).

18/01/2011 1 Garrach (boy) Tunisia drowned, boat capsized near Metline (TN) during poor border control after Ben Ali abdication FE
17/01/2011 2 N.N. (men) unknown drowned, set boat on fire and jumped to avoid border patrol in Annaba (DZ) on the way to I FE/Migreurop
16/01/2011 33 N.N. Afghanistan missing, feared drowned when ship sank near Corfu (GR) on way to Italy, 230 survivors ClandestinE/FE/AFP/KI
08/01/2011 1 N.N. (±25, man) Africa froze to death, body found in Nea Vissa, Evros (GR) near to Turkish border ClandestinE/Frontexplode
in Jan 11 1 Borka T. (woman) Kosovo brain haemorrhage, could not receive medical treatment once deported from D to Kosovo WSWS
17/12/2010 2 N.N. (men) Africa froze to death, bodies found in Nea Vissa (GR), near Turkish border Frontexplode
11/12/2010 5 N.N. unknown missing, feared drowned when ship sank off Kani Keli, Mayotte (F), 31 survivors info/FE
07/12/2010 2 N.N. unknown drowned, bodies found in the Evros region (GR) near to border with Turkey ClandestinE/Frontexplode
01/12/2010 1 N.N. (16, boy) Afghanistan stowaway, suffocated whilst hiding in truck on a ferry from Patras (GR) to Ancona (I) Migreurop/FE/Kinisi/CorAdriatico
29/11/2010 1 N.N. (38, man) Mali died from shock, taser was used on deportee by police in Colombes (FR) to calm fight Europe1
27/11/2010 1 Sardar Ayari (25, man) Afghanistan stowaway, crushed between 2 trucks whilst trying to climb into one in Patras (GR) going to I Migreurop/Kinisi/FE
23/11/2010 4 N.N. (men) Iran stowaways, suffocated in back of van near Amphiloxia (GR), travelling from Italy Europe1/FE
in Nov 10 6 N.N. Eritrea beaten to death with sticks by traffickers in Sinai desert (Israel), for trying to escape group ECRE/LR
01/11/2010 2 N.N. (men) Eritrea killed by traffickers holding them in Sinai desert (Israel), for using phones to call for help LR/ECRE
12/10/2010 1 Jimmy Mubenga (46, man) Angola suffocated, security guards restrained him during deportation, on flight from Heathrow (GB) GuardianUn/NR/IndGB/Demotix/BBC/Rue89/FE
07/10/2010 1 N.N. (man) Algeria stowaway, drowned whilst swimming from ship to shore at Pinedo beach, Valencia (E) Provincias
02/10/2010 5 N.N. (18-36, men) Algeria missing, feared drowned, sailing with 30 survivors rescued off coast of Mostaganem (DZ) FE/Swiss.ch
21/09/2010 1 N.N. (22, man) Eritrea stowaway, travelling from Georgia, hurriedly jumped off truck near Foggia (I) and fell on head Migreurop/FE/FaiNoti
13/09/2010 1 Andoine Bassoumga (41, man) Congo heart attack, diabetic asylum seeker in Nicosia (CY), had a poor diet when welfare was cut KISA/CypMail
in Sept 10 3 N.N. Sub-Saharan Africa bodies thrown overboard a boat carrying 34 others, found on Alboran Sea (E) Humano
31/08/2010 2 N.N. Maghreb bodies found by civil guard on Ceuta beach (E), in an advanced state of decomposition SUR
28/08/2010 2 N.N. unknown found off Ceuta’s coast (E), believed to have fallen from boats several months ago MAC
25/08/2010 1 N.N. (minor) Afghanistan body found by police on Jonic coast, Calabria (I), reportedly died whilst disembarking sailboat ANSA/Gazzettino
15/08/2010 3 N.N. Cameroon died of thirst in Algerian desert near Tamanrasset, with 9 others trying to reach Europe AFP/FocusNews/AllWAfrica
15/08/2010 3 N.N. Mali died of thirst in Algerian desert near to Tamanrasset, with 9 others trying to reach Europe AFP/FocusNews/AllWAfrica
15/08/2010 2 N.N. Ivory Coast died of thirst in Algerian desert near to Tamanrasset, with 10 others trying to reach Europe AFP/FocusNews/AllWAfrica
15/08/2010 2 N.N. Senegal died of thirst in Algerian desert near to Tamanrasset, with 10 others trying to reach Europe AFP/FocusNews/AllWAfrica
15/08/2010 1 N.N. Gambia died of thirst in Algerian desert near to Tamanrasset, with 11 others trying to reach Europe AFP/FocusNews/AllWAfrica
15/08/2010 1 N.N. Guinea died of thirst in Algerian desert near to Tamanrasset, with 11 others trying to reach Europe AFP/FocusNews/AllWAfrica
12/08/2010 1 N.N. (55, man) Algeria drowned, body found by helicopter rescue near Tabarca, Alicante (E) Provincias/Deia/Diario de Navarra/Raz
11/08/2010 8 N.N. unknown drowned, 6 missing and 2 found by sea patrol near Tabarka, Alicante (E) travelling from DZ Les Temps d'Algerie/Migreurop
11/08/2010 3 N.N. Sub-Saharan Africa drowned in La Linea de la Conception, Cadiz (E), near Strait of Gibraltar EFE
07/08/2010 1 N.N. unknown drowned during shipwreck off Ibiza Channel, body found 2 miles from Altea, Alicante (E) Provincias/EP/MNS/RoundTown
07/08/2010 1 N.N. unknown drowned during shipwreck off Ibiza Channel, body found on San Juan beach (E) Provincias/EP/RoundTown
01/08/2010 1 Osman Rasul (27. man) Iraq suicide, jumped from balcony in Nottingham (GB), couldn’t find solicitor for his asylum appeal MNS/IRR
in Aug 10 1 N.N. unknown drowned during a shipwreck off Ibiza Channel, body found by fishermen in Calp, Alicante (E) EP/Provincias/RoundTown
28/07/2010 2 N.N. unknown drowned during shipwreck off Ibiza Channel, bodies found off Javea coast (E) EP/Provincias/DiarioVasco/RoundTown
11/07/2010 3 N.N. (women) Sub-Saharan Africa bodies found on a damaged boat rescued off Motril coast, Granada (E) carrying 25 survivors Diario de Noticias/Diario de Navarra/ABC/SUR/Publico
11/07/2010 2 N.N.(babies) Sub-Saharan Africa bodies found on a damaged boat rescued off Motril coast, Granada (E) carrying 25 survivors Diario de Noticias/Diario de Navarra/ABC/SUR/Publico
11/07/2010 1 N.N. (fetus) Sub-Saharan Africa mother’s body was found on a damaged boat rescued off Motril coast, Granada (E) Diario de Noticias/Diario de Navarra/ABC/SUR/Publico
in Jul 10 1 N.N. (20, man) Afghanistan body found on Jonic coast, Calabria (I) at end of July, died during disembarking boat ANSA/Gazzettino
in Jul 10 1 N.N. (14, boy) Afghanistan reported missing on Jonic coast, Calabria (I) at end of July, had travelled by sailboat ANSA/Gazzettino
27/06/2010 1 Zahara Bare (42, woman) Somalia pregnant asylum seeker in a Leersum asylum centre (NL)who was denied urgent medical care aduc/Doorbraak/SunaT/IRR
27/06/2010 1 N.N. (fetus) unknown mother died when denied urgent medical care in a Leersum asylum centre (NL) aduc/Doorbraak/SunaT
25/06/2010 2 N.N. (women) unknown drowned, boat overturned crossing Evros river from TR-GR, bodies found in Orestiada (GR) TimesM/Migreurop/AFP
25/06/2010 1 N.N. (25, man) unknown killed by another asylum seeker in Alvesta (S) apartment rented by Migration Board UNHCR/DS
08/06/2010 1 N.N. Africa drowned whilst travelling from Turkey to Greece on Evros River (GR) MNS
03/06/2010 1 N.N. (man) Ivory Coast unknown cause had mental health problems but was not monitored in Charleroi(B) asylum cr. MNS/FIDH/IRR
02/06/2010 1 Slawik C. (58, man) Armenia suicide, hanged himself with kettle cord whilst facing deporting in Langenhagen prison (D) 762/IRR
in Jun 10 6 N.N. (men) unknown drowned, boat overturned crossing Evros river from TR-GR, bodies found in Orestiada (GR) TimesM/Migreurop/AFP
in Jun 10 3 N.N. (women) unknown drowned, boat overturned crossing Evros river from TR-GR, bodies found in Orestiada (GR) TimesM/Migreurop/AFP
in Jun 10 3 N.N. unknown missing, suspected drowned, boat overturned when crossing Evros river from TR-GR TimesM/Migreurop/AFP
in Jun 10 5 N.N. unknown drowned, boat overturned crossing Evros river (TR) trying to get to Greece TimesM/Migreurop
30/05/2010 20 N.N. Chad/Egypt/Nigeria whilst travelling to Europe, executed in Tripoli and Banghazi (LY) for alleged criminal offences LR
13/05/2010 1 Mohamed Abagui (man) Morocco suicide, hanged himself with bedsheet whilst awating deportation in Barcelona det centre(E) SetDirecta/FAIV/EP/PerCat/IRR
03/05/2010 1 Abdoulaye (20, man) Ivory Coast stowaway, hanging under lorry, had permission to travel Ceuta-Malaga (E) but was prevented MNS
02/05/2010 1 Alan Rasoul Ahmed (man) Iraq suicide, asylum seeker hanged himself in Liverpool (GB) as he was homesick and left in limbo IRR
in May 10 1 N.N. (34, man) Maghreb deported from NL without family, died while trying to reenter Europe via boat to Samos (GR) VK
18/04/2010 1 N.N. (±25, man) Algeria drowned whilst swimming to city, body washed up on Chorrillo beach, Ceuta (E) Provincias/SUR/Can7
18/04/2010 4 N.N. unknown drowned, bodies found by Evros river near Edirne (TR) when boat capsized, 7 survivors PICUM/UNHCR
16/04/2010 1 Yeni P. (34, woman) Indonesia suicide, hanged herself in deportation centre in Hamburg (D) jW/Karawane/IRR/FR-H
15/04/2010 1 Eliud Nguli Nyenze (40, man) Kenya died after being denied medical attention by staff at Oakington detention centre (GB) GuardianUn/IndyMedia/MornStar/IRR
13/04/2010 11 N.N. (adults) Algeria reportedly drowned, boat sank of Almeria coast (E) on way from Algeria. 3 survivors PUB/SUR/Provincias/Can7/Nerja/MUGAK/EP/ABC/Diario 11/04/2010 1 Ramahdin (16, boy) Afghanistan stowaway, fell under wheels of truck when it boarded a boat in Dunkirk (F), travelling to GB PICUM/IRR
10/04/2010 1 N.N. (27, man) Shri Lanka stabbed by housemate in Venice (I), jealous of his permanent residency and work permit LaNVenezia
07/04/2010 1 N.N. (30, man) Afghanistan stabbed in canteen-queue fight in Sandholm Asylum Centre(DK) tension due to overcrowding CPH/IRR/MNS
02/04/2010 1 N.N. (30, man) Chechnia stabbed by breadknife by drunk asylum seeker, whilst in asylum centre in Mostviertel (A) DerStandard/Salzburger Nachrichten
in Apr 10 1 N.N. unknown (minor) suicide, depressed after asylum claim was rejected did not receive medical support UNHCR/Sverinsge
30/03/2010 7 N.N. unknown drowned, boat capsized 3 miles from Kafr el-Sheikh, Egypt on way to Italy. 38 survivors Le Monde/MP/FE/KI
28/03/2010 1 N.N. (15, boy) Afghanistan asylum seeker, killed by bomb exposion in Athens (GR) while searching for food into garbage IRR
21/03/2010 3 N.N. Somalia bodies thrown overboard on the way to Sicily (I), 20 surivors rescued by border patrol LR/FE
17/03/2010 1 Joseph Ndukaku (29, man) Nigeria died during deportation at Zurich airport (CH),weak from hunger strike,police forcibly restrain AdnK/Swiss.ch/BBC/UNHCR/Augen Auf/DerBund/IPSNA/07/03/2010 1 David Mardiani (17, man) Georgia suicide, asylum seeker, hanged himself in Hamburg deportation centre (D) after hunger strike WSWS/Migreurop/CaucKnot/SP/jW/taz/AN/IRR/MNS
07/03/2010 1 Serge Serykh (man) Russia suicide, jumped with his family from 15 floor flat in Glasgow (GB), asylum claim was rejected GuardianUn/IRR/Migreurop/TheHerlad/MNS
07/03/2010 1 Tatiana Serykh (woman) Russia suicide, jumped with her family from 15 floor flat in Glasgow (GB), asylum claim was rejected GuardianUn/IRR/TheHerlad/MNS/Migreurop
07/03/2010 1 Stefan Serykh (19, man) Russia suicide, jumped with his family from 15 floor flat in Glasgow (GB), asylum claim was rejected GuardianUn/IRR/MNS/TheHerald/Migreurop
03/03/2010 1 N.N. (13 months, girl) Nigeria refused hospital treatment in Cernusco sul Naviglo (I) due to new discriminatory laws Everyone Group
11/02/2010 6 N.N. (men) unknown reportedly drowned, dinghy capsized off coast of Samos (GR) on the way to (GR) from (TR) KI/FE/AP/Migreurop/ECRE
11/02/2010 1 N.N. (woman) unknown reportedly drowned, dinghy capsized off coast of Samos (GR) on the way to (GR) from (TR) KI/FE/AP/Migreurop/ECRE
11/02/2010 1 N.N. (girl) unknown reportedly drowned, dinghy capsized off coast of Samos (GR) on the way to (GR) from (TR) KI/FE/AP/Migreurop/ECRE
11/02/2010 8 N.N. unknown reportedly missing, dinghy capsized off Samos Island (GR) on the way to (GR) from (TR) KI/FE/AP/Migreurop/ECRE
16/01/2010 1 M. El Abbouby (25, man) North Africa suicide, exhaled camping gas spray in his cell in S.Vittore prison, Milan (I) LR/IRR
10/01/2010 2 N.N. unknown drowned, suspected that boat capsized 6 days earlier, travelling from Turkey to Greece Zaman/NOB

bron http://www.unitedagainstracism.org/p...stofdeaths.pdf

[Cetnik]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Wisord

Lijst met slachtoffers (vluchtelingen).

bron http://www.unitedagainstracism.org/p...stofdeaths.pdf

Zo te zien zijn de allermeesten van jouw lijstje "slachtoffers" door eigen toedoen doodgegaan.

[Wisord]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Cetnik

Zo te zien zijn de allermeesten van jouw lijstje "slachtoffers" door eigen toedoen doodgegaan.

Nee klopt niet .... en hij gaat verder hoor dat was maar een klein stukje .

04/01/2010 1 M. Yahya Tabbabi (31, man) Tunisia asylum-seeker, died in detention centre in Vottem (B) due to lack of medical treatment Migreurop/IRR/ST
04/01/2010 19 N.N. unknown drowned, boat capsized when travelling from Turkey to Greece Zaman/NOB
found dead numbername country of origin cause of death ABC
in Jan 10 1 Wadim S. (±21, man) Latvia suicide, jumped in front of train in Hamburg (D) after hearing he would be deported SP
31/12/2009 22 N.N. (7 women; 1 child, 2) Asia reportedly drowned on way from Turkey, boat shipwrecked off Alexandroupoli coast (GR) FE/Migreurop/AP/Le Figaro/CDS/ANSA/Unita’/TodZam
25/12/2009 1 Carlos (34, woman) Brazil suicide, transexual hanged herself with a sheet in detention center of Milan (I) EveryOne Group/LR/Migreurop
15/12/2009 1 Maiouad (15, boy) Afghanistan stowaway, killed crossing a highway near Calais (F), trying to go to GB by hiding in a truck NOB/FE
12/12/2009 2 N.N. unknown reportedly drowned, boat sank off coast of Leros Island (GR), 25 rescued from rocky islet NOB/TodZam
09/12/2009 1 N.N. (man) Africa stowaway, frozen to death in a lorry trying to go from Tangeri (MA) to Marseilles (F) AP/FE
in Dec 09 1 N.N. unknown drowned, found off Alexandroupoli (GR) when boat shipwrecked KI
24/11/2009 1 Ibrahim M.B. (35, man) Senegal murdered by his employer in Vercelli (I) as he did not want to pay him a 3 months salary CDS
24/11/2009 23 N.N. Comoros Islands reportedly drowned, boat sank between island Mayotte (F) and Comoros Islands Publico/AFP/MigrantsOM
20/11/2009 1 N.N. (30, man) Bolivia died after repatriation operation after 26 days spent inside detention center of Malaga (E) Sur
18/11/2009 1 N.N. (man) Sub-Saharan Africa reportedly drowned, fell from wooden boat in the sea off the coast of Tarifa (E) EP/FE
12/11/2009 1 Jianping Liu (35, woman) China suicide, jumped from bridge near Heathrow (GB) after police questioned her about residence IRR
06/11/2009 6 N.N. (1m; 1 w; 3 childr; 1 baby) Afghanistan drowned, 5 died, 1 missing, overloaded boat sank off the coast of Bodrum (TR) FE/Ansa/Le Monde/NOB
06/11/2009 1 Abdelkader H. (19, man) Algeria suicide, jumped in Bilbao’s river (E) escaping from policemen who took him for a thief EP
01/11/2009 1 N.N. (young man) unknown stowaway, suffocated, found in the back of a lorry entering the Channel Tunnel (F) to GB FE/Mail Online
in Nov 09 1 N.N. (+30, man) Somalia swine flu, died whilst staying in asylum centre in Norway, no medical care was given UNHCR/IRR
30/10/2009 1 Mohammed Iqbal Safi (18, man) Afghanistan jumped in river Thames(GB) after police questioned him in custody for immigration offences IRR
29/10/2009 3 N.N. Algeria bodies found on a boat tracked southeast of Cartagena on Spain’s southern coast EXP/UnSarda/EarthT/EP/PUB/PICUM/NOB
27/10/2009 9 N.N. (±30, 1 man; 3 w; 5 childr) Afghanistan drowned after wooden boat from TR collided with rocks on the island of Mytilini (GR) LR/TDN/Le Figaro/CDS/Migreurop/ANSA/gara.net/Picum/27/10/2009 1 N.N. unknown found on boat escorted to Sicily; I and M refused for 3 days to receive them in their territory LR/Can7/Picum/NOB
15/10/2009 16 N.N. (1 woman; 1 child) Kosovo drowned, 11 died, 5 missing, boat capsized trying to cross Serbo-H border via Tisza river Picum/UNMIK/NOB
10/10/2009 1 Mohammad Atif Kamran (25, m) Pakistan murdered, beaten, dragged in police station of Nikaia (GR) and tortured till death Anarkismo/IRR
06/10/2009 7 N.N. Egypt/Somalia drowned, 4 died, 3 missing, trying to swim from a dinghy to the coast of Gela (I) Picum/EveryOne Group/NOB
06/10/2009 1 Hasun Albaadzh (man) Syria medical neglect, died in Busmantsi detention centre (BG) where he had been held for 3 years IRR
19/09/2009 28 N.N. (7 women; 1 man) Sub-Saharan Africa drowned, 8 found, 20 missing, small boat sank off the coast of MA near Perejil Island (E) AFP/EP/DiarioVasco/Razon/ELM/ELC/PerCat/Xinhua/14/09/2009 1 Gagandeep Singh K. (32, man) India suicide, died of heart attack due to a month-long hunger strike in prison in Wien (A) DerStandard/FRO/WIKO/Asyl in Not/RoterP
29/08/2009 1 N.N. Maghreb manner of death unknown, died during boat trip, found in Granadilla, Tenerife Island (E) Diario de Noticia/ElDia/ABC/Verdad/DNG/Deia/gara.net/28/08/2009 1 N.N. (woman) Africa drowned during rescue operation in Birzebuggia coast (M) on her way from Africa Gara/MUGAK/NOB
25/08/2009 1 Mahmum O (26, man) Iraq suicide, asylum seeker found hanging in prison cell in Nuremburg (D) four days earlier IRR
24/08/2009 1 Mrs T. (32, woman) Libanon suicide, overdose to family being moved to an asylum seekers camp in Mittweida (D) ARI
20/08/2009 72 N.N. (55 man; 17 woman) Eritrea bodies thrown overboard after 23 days traveling from Libya to Lampedusa (I) LR/CDS/GE/FE/MUGAK/EP/AFP/GARA/ANSA/Nouvel 17/08/2009 27 N.N. (1 man) Sub-Saharan Africa/Morocco drowned,7 found, 20 missing, 10 survived, shipwreck near Trafalgar beach in southern Spain LatinAHTribune
12/08/2009 2 N.N. Turkey drowned, 2 died, motorboat sank off the coast of Kos Island (GR) on the way from TR FE/Picum/Cesdop/NOB
10/08/2009 20 N.N. Somalia murdered, guards opened fire during their escape attempt from det. cr. in Banghazi (LY) FE/VOA
09/08/2009 1 N.N. unknown stowaway, body found on hallway Brindisi-Lecce (I) thrown over truck with 17 survivors CDS/NOB
09/08/2009 12 N.N. Somalia missing after Benghazi (LY) massacre by police, in detention centre along LY to Italy route FE/GiovaniE
09/08/2009 6 N.N. Somalia killed by police in Benghazi massacre (LY), when prisoners tried to escape detention centre FE/GiovaniE
09/08/2009 1 Heval Huseyn Ismail (28, man) Kurdistan suicide, failed asylum seeker who hanged himself in a South Shields park (GB) ShieldsG/IRR
08/08/2009 12 N.N. unknown 1 died, 11 missing, boat collided with Algerian coast guard vessel in the port of Annaba (DZ) BBC/Migreurop/NOB
06/08/2009 1 F.A. (27, woman) Morocco suicide, threw herself in the Brembo River in Bergamo (I) in fear of deportation LR/IRR
03/08/2009 12 N.N. (1 man) Algeria drowned, 1 died, 11 missing, wooden boat capsized 4 miles from Cabo de Palos (E) EP/Verdad/ELM/RAZ/MUGAK
in Aug 09 1 Hassan Rahimi (minor, boy) Afghanistan suicide, unaccompanied minor who hanged himself in London (GB) as he feared eviction IRR
27/07/2009 1 Arivan Osman Asis (20, man) Iraq murdered, beaten by border guards in his attempt to embark to reach I, died in GR hospital AFP
27/07/2009 1 N.N. unknown reportedly drowned, parts of a body found along la Fontanilla beach of Marbella Island (E) FE/SUR
25/07/2009 1 Luis Beltran Larrosa (56, man) Uruguai died of heart attack in Tenerife (E), employer did not call for assistance as Luis was illegal Can7/VDG/ElDia/Publico
14/07/2009 1 N.N. Sub-Saharan Africa died at the hospital of El Hierro, Canary Islands (E), after boat arrived in La Estaca harbour Verdad/Diario de Navarra
14/07/2009 1 Azad Hayi (28, man) Kurdistan manslaughter, beaten by neonazis whilst returning to Möhlau asylum centre (D) at night taz
12/07/2009 2 N.N. Sub-Saharan Africa 1 died on board during travel, 1 died at the hospital of El Hierro (E) because of dehydration Publico/EP/Diario de Noticia/VDG/Gara/Verdad/Diario 01/07/2009 1 N.N. (man) Sub-Saharan Africa drowned, body found 42 miles south of Cabo de Gata in Almeria (E) by Liberian ship PICUM
29/06/2009 10 N.N. (3 w; 5 m; 1 child) Sub-Saharan Africa drowned, wooden boat collided with rocks in Barbate Coast (E) PICUM/SUR/Publico/EP/ELM/Verdad/DiarioVasco/MNS/23/06/2009 1 Amir Rohol (19, boy) Afghanistan stowaway,fell from the truck he was hidden, died in hospital 3h later in Ancona (I) PICUM/LR/MP/NOB
19/06/2009 1 N.N. (20, man) Ecuador suicide in a cell in Barcelona (E) hanging himself with his own shirt, arrested because illegal EP/AVUI/MUGAK
17/06/2009 2 N.N. (men) Algeria 1drowned, 1missing after shipwreck due to storm waters 30 miles south Cartagena (E) LV/Verdad/PICUM/NOB
04/06/2009 25 N.N. (men, women, 8 babies) Sub-Saharan Africa/Morocco missing after their boat sank at 10 miles off Tarifa, Cadiz (E) on the way from Tanger (MA) ABC/MUGAK/EP/ELM/LV/EFE/Diario de Navarra /GARA/in Jun 09 1 N.N. (16, boy) unknown suicide after his asylum claim was rejected in asylum seeker accomodation Varmland (S) IRR
27/05/2009 1 Mir Abbas Safari (36, man) Afghanistan suicide after 67 days in detention centre in Gavle (S) in fear of being deported IRR/UPP/NewsD
19/05/2009 1 Jonathan Sizalina (20, man) Ecuador reported suicide using tshirt but guards reportedly beat him in Barcelona detention centre(E) SetDirecta/FAIV
07/05/2009 1 N.N. (49, woman) Tunisia suicide in the detention centre of Ponte Gallera, in Roma (I) IlMess/IRR
in May 2009 2 N.N. Somalia drowned whilst travelling from Turkey to Greece on Evros River (GR) MNS
in May 09 1 N.N. Tunisia drowned whilst travelling from Turkey to Greece on Evros River (GR) MNS
30/04/2009 1 N.N. (man) Sub-Saharan Africa died in the hospital in Tarifa (E) after Spanish authorities blocked a boat from Tanger (MA) EFE/NOB
23/04/2009 35 N.N. (26 men, 9 women) Africa drowned, bodies found after shipwreck 250 km east of Aden (Yemen) on way from Somalia MUGAK/Can7/EFE/UNHCR/LR/GARA
23/04/2009 20 N.N. Africa missing after shipwreck, 250 km east of Aden (Yemen), coming from Somalia, 165 survivors MUGAK/Can7/EFE/UNHCR/LR/GARA
23/04/2009 2 N.N. unknown reportedly died of hypothermia, found by Spanish authorities in the Strait of Gibraltar (E) MUGAK/EFE/Diario de Navarra/PICUM/EHAR/NOB
18/04/2009 1 N.N. Sub-Saharan Africa body found by Mauritanian guards on a boat near Nuadibu on way to Canary Islands (E) MUGAK/EFE/ElDia/Diario de Navarra
16/04/2009 1 Esat Ekos (19, pregnant woman) Nigeria died during rescue operation, boat waited 4 days before to be allowed to reach Italian coasts MUGAK/TimesM/Diario de Navarra/Verdad/LR/PUN/VDG/16/04/2009 1 N.N. (fetus) Nigeria died during rescue operation, boat waited 4 days before to be allowed to reach Italian coasts MUGAK/TimesM/Diario de Navarra/Verdad/LR/PUN/VDG/05/04/2009 1 N.N. (26, man) Afghanistan stabbed after a brawl in Villemin square, Paris (F), where he lived as asylum seeker Reu/Ya.F/MSF/MRAP/CSE10/AFP
03/04/2009 2 N.N. (1 man, 1 woman) Africa bodies found on a boat reportedly from LY at 60 km. off Lampedusa’s Southern coast (I) ANSA/AVV/NOB
29/03/2009 300 N.N. (69 w., 2 child.) Somalia/Morocco/Syria/Nigedrioaw/Enreitdre, a2/1A blgoedrieas/T fuonuinsdia, 3 boats sank due to stormy waters 30 km off Ly on way to I ABC/MUGAK/Deia/DiariodeNavarra/DNG/APDHA/Berria/29/03/2009 500 N.N. Somalia/Morocco/Syria/Nigemrisas/Einrgit raefate/Ar l3g ebroiaa/tTsu snaisnika due to stormy waters 30 km off LY on way from Tripoli (LY) to I ABC/MUGAK/Deia/DiariodeNavarra/DNG/APDHA/Berria/29/03/2009 1 N.N. (20, man) Iraq stowaway, dead under a Bulgarian lorry he hang on to pass the border in Ancona harbour (I) CDS/NOB
26/03/2009 1 N.N. (20, man) Iraq asylum seeker was run over by a lorry in Venice harbor (I) reportedly trying to skip ID control CDS/ANSA/AdnK/NOB
23/03/2009 1 Mazir (24, man) unknown found in Votanikos stream near Aliens Bureau in Athens (GR), stayed in coma for 3 months NR/IRR
22/03/2009 2 N.N. Maghreb missing when Spanish patrol transfered the passengers from their boat off Cabo de Gata (E) MUGAK/EFE/PUB/NOB
19/03/2009 67 N.N. Africa 17 deaths, 50 missing, after shipwreck near to Sfax (TN) on the way from Libya to Italy LS/FE/ANSA/Ach/AFP/LSW/NOB
19/03/2009 1 Salah Soudami (42, man) Algeria reportedly beaten on the Ponte Gallierra det. cr. Roma (I) after refusal of medical treatment CARTA/ElW
17/03/2009 1 N.N. (young man) Sub-Saharan Africa body washed ashore on the beach Linea de la Concepcion, Cadiz (E) MUGAK/DNA/SUR/PUB/EFE/ELM/NOB
16/03/2009 11 N.N. (7 men, 4 women) Nigeria died of thirst in AlGatrun desert (LY). had tried to reach Italy but authorities intercepted NOB/LR
06/03/2009 1 N.N. (±20, man) Africa tangled in razor wire trying to jump a border fence from Morocco to Ceuta (E) REU/

bron http://www.unitedagainstracism.org/p...stofdeaths.pdf

[Cetnik]

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Nee klopt niet .... en hij gaat verder hoor dat was maar een klein stukje .



bron http://www.unitedagainstracism.org/p...stofdeaths.pdf

Klopt wel.

Bijna allemaal hebben ze hun dood aan eigen handelen te danken. Ook in de rest van jouw lijstje.

[Wisord]

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Klopt wel.

Bijna allemaal hebben ze hun dood aan eigen handelen te danken. Ook in de rest van jouw lijstje.

Nee hoor volgens mij zijn ze gestorven door de wantoestanden in vele landen alsook door het oneerlijk asielbeleid in het westen .

Dat was niet de rest van hel lijstje het gaat nog veel verder ...

in Mar 09 14 N.N. (1 pregnant woman) Nigeria, Africa died giving birth with 13 more in Oran’s desert (AR) after got lost ran out of fuel and water FE/NAN/NT/ODILI
21/02/2009 1 N.N. Africa died when vessel tried to land near Montril (E). 34 migrants survived NOB/REU
15/02/2009 2 N.N. (woman; pregnant woman) Maghreb drowned after boat crashed with a rock and sank 20 metres from Lanzarote’s coast (E) Can7/ABC/Publico/ELM/DiariodeNoticias/Deia/EP/Raz/15/02/2009 1 N.N. (8 months, fetus) Maghreb drowned after boat crashed with a rock and sank 20 metres from Lanzarote’s coast (E) Can7/ABC/Publico/ELM/DiariodeNoticias/Deia/EP/Raz/15/02/2009 19 N.N. (4-17, 15 boys; 4 girls) Maghreb drowned after boat crashed with a rock and sank 20 metres from Lanzarote’s coast (E) Can7/ABC/Publico/ELM/DiariodeNoticias/Deia/EP/Raz/15/02/2009 4 N.N. (men) Maghreb drowned after boat crashed with a rock and sank 20 metres from Lanzarote’s coast (E) Can7/ABC/Publico/ELM/DiariodeNoticias/Deia/EP/Raz/15/02/2009 1 N.N. Maghreb body missing after boat crashed with a rock and sank 20 metres from Lanzarote’s coast (E) Can7/ABC/Publico/ELM/DiariodeNoticias/Deia/EP/Raz/02/02/2009 3 N.N. (men) Gambia reportedly dehydration, died after 4 days without water or food in boat near Canary Isl. (E) ABC/EP/MUGAK/ELM/Diario de Navarra/SUR/Can7/ELC/in Feb 09 1 N.N. (man) Africa body found in boat drifting for 2 days near the coast of Motril (E) with 34 survivors AFP/MAG
31/01/2009 1 N.N. (woman) Sub-Saharan Africa body found by Moroccan navy in boat sailing near the coasts of Al Hoceima (MA) Can7/MUGAK
29/01/2009 8 N.N. Tunisia drowned, shipwreck due to storm waters in Tunisi’s Bay (TN) ANSA
28/01/2009 5 N.N. unknown bodies washed ashore on the coasts near the town of Bodrum (TR) AFP/REU/NOB
22/01/2009 1 Vivede (19, woman) Nigeria died of burns and exposure after sailing by boat from Africa to Lampedusa (I) LR/ASCA
21/01/2009 1 N.N. (man) Africa body found in the boat with 53 survivors on Cala Pisana’s beach, Lampedusa (I) LR/MP/AdnK/ANSA/NOB
21/01/2009 8 N.N. Libya reportedly frozen to death on the sailing from Libya to Lampedusa (I) LR/CDS
19/01/2009 26 N.N. (20-30) Tunisia missing, after shipwreck off Tunisia on the way to Italy LR/FE/LPC/PICUM/APDHA/CDS/AEDH/LIDU
19/01/2009 1 N.N. (48, man) Sri Lanka frozen to death, body found under the Vittorio Emanuele Gallery in Messina (I) Ansa
14/01/2009 4 N.N. (19-32) Algeria reportedly missing when the boat capsized for motor problems after leaving Kristel (DZ) QUOTI/FE
13/01/2009 1 N.N. (18 months, child) unknown drowned off Syros Island (GR), after boat carrying 19 migrants capsized FE/KI/NOB
10/01/2009 4 N.N. (4, women) Senegal drowned, transferred to canoe after abandoning boat trip to (E), capsized off Senegal coast NOB/FE
09/01/2009 1 N.N. (man) unknown run over by the truck he was hanged on to pass the border in Ancona (I) harbour Adnk
07/01/2009 1 N.N. (30, man) Afghanistan stabbed in fight between migrants attempting to get aboard the lorry to UK in Calais (F) Telegraph/Mail Online/Evening Standard/PICUM/Congoo/03/01/2009 1 Hussein Zahidul (24, man) Bangladesh manner of death unknown, body found in a ditch in Votanikos (GR), near the Aliens Bureau KI/IRR/MNS
01/01/2009 1 Alino (29, man) Cameroon died on way to hospital in Nador (MA) after being shot by border guards in Farhana (E/MA) AI/Diversity/MUGAK/Connect/EP/Tribuna/ELM/LV/ELC/in Jan 09 12 N.N. (20-30) Algeria reportedly missing, left Arzew’s coast (DZ) on 2 January in bad weather conditions QUOTI/FE
in 2009 1 Jonson Ibitui (man) Nigeria heart attack from stress, soon after his release from 1 year’s det in Busmantsi centre (BG) GloDP/IRR
24/12/2008 1 N.N. (man) Sub-Saharan Africa body found in an advanced state of decomposition by a fisherman near off Melilla’s coast (E) MUGAK/Publico/SUR/NOB
18/12/2008 7 N.N. Somalia/Mauritania drowned, 3 found, 4 missing, dinghy sank due to bad weather in Aegean Sea on way to GR PICUM/AFP/ANSA/NOB
10/12/2008 1 Rezai Mahumut (13, boy) Afghanistan was run over by the wheels of the lorry while clinching to it in Mestre, Venice (I) CDS/ST/EpolisR/NOB
07/12/2008 1 N.N. (man) Africa body found in a boat rescued by the Spanish authorities near Arguineguin, Canary Isl. (E) Publico/NOB
06/12/2008 4 N.N. (3 men; 1 woman) Palestine drowned after dinghy sank off Ayvalik (TR), bodies were pulled from the water, 23 survivors KI/FE/PICUM/NOB
06/12/2008 1 N.N. (4, child) unknown drowned, dinghy sank trying to cross the sea between TR and Samos Island (GR) EarthT/PICUM/NOB
02/12/2008 1 Hamid al-Amrani (12, boy) Morocco suicide, father was repratiated, hanged himself with bathrobe belt in Madrid care centre (E) AOL/Publico/Terra/ABC/adn/EPress/Kaoenlared/ASSI/25/11/2008 2 N.N. unknown bodies found in a refrigerator truck with other 30 hidden people in a southern GR coastline FE/IntHeraldTribune/NOB
21/11/2008 21 N.N. unknown drowned, after shipwreck near the French island of Mayotte N24/AFP/NOB
19/11/2008 1 N.N. (man) Africa died of heart attack in hospital after boat was intercepted near to Canary coast (E) ABC/AFP
13/11/2008 1 N.N. (man) Africa missing, fell into the sea during rescue operation 9 miles south Lampedusa (I) FE/AdnK/UnSarda/LS/NOB
12/11/2008 6 N.N. (4 men, 2 women) Sub-Saharan Africa found by Algerian authorities in an advanced state of decomposition in Ardrar (S.E. Sahara) PICUM/MNS/AlgerieMonde
11/11/2008 3 N.N. (1 adult; 2 minors) Africa 1 died on the boat, 1 when arrived to El Hierro coast (E) and 1 in the hospital one week later ElDia/Top News/ABC/FE/PICUM/Mugak/EFE/gara.net/10/11/2008 1 N.N. (man) Sub-Saharan Africa died in La Candelaria’s hospital, in Tenerife (E), 5 days after his boat was intercepted ElDia/Top News/ABC/FE
05/11/2008 1 N.N. (woman) Africa found by boat in advanced state of decomposition in Mediterranean Sea, off Birzebbugia (M) TimesM
02/11/2008 1 N.N. (man) Africa body found in an advanced state of decomposition in Mediterranean Sea, off Delimara (M) TimesM/NOB
01/11/2008 1 N.N. (woman) Africa body found in an advanced state of decomposition in Mediterranean Sea, off Delimara (M) TimesM/NOB
29/10/2008 3 N.N. (2 adults; 1 minor) Sub-Saharan Africa 2 found in boat at La Gomera’s coast (E), 1 died of hypothermia later in hospital EP/NOB
29/10/2008 2 N.N. unknown drowned, recovered by Greek border police in eastern Aegean facing the Turkish coast PICUM
26/10/2008 1 Muhammad Asraf Pakistan injured in police violence, in asylum seekers queue outside Aliens’ directorate in Athens (GR) ECRE/ST/Vluchteling/IRR/MNS
23/10/2008 1 N.N. (woman) Africa found by boat in advanced state of decomposition in Mediterranean Sea between M and LY TimesM
23/10/2008 1 N.N. (17) Albania drowned in a southern Albanian lagoon close to Greece after overloaded boat capsized FE/Javno/NOB
23/10/2008 2 N.N. (youngsters) Albania drowned in a southern Albanian lagoon close to Greece after overloaded boat capsized Javno
20/10/2008 1 N.N. (22, woman) Albania drowned in a lagoon in Southern AL after boat capsized trying to avoid police checkpoing Reu/Picum/Javno/NOB
20/10/2008 1 N.N. (3 month, baby) Albania drowned in a lagoon in Southern AL after boat capsized trying to avoid police checkpoing Reu/Picum/Javno/NOB
20/10/08 1 N.N. (man) Africa manner of death unknown, body found on boat with 92 survivors arriving in Gran Canaria (E) NOB/TySp
20/10/2008 1 N.N. unknown killed, shot by Libyan civilian as his migrant boat left Libya for Europe HRW
18/10/2008 1 N.N. (woman) Africa body found in advanced state of decomposition in Mediterranean Sea, off Delimara (M) TimesM
12/10/2008 1 N.N. (man) Serbia suicide in the Vottem det. cr. (B) after hearing his asylum claim had been rejected IRR/MNS/GRAPPE/CRACPE/VRF
07/10/2008 50 N.N. Africa drowned, boat capsized due to stormy waters in Kenitra (MA) MNS/NOB
06/10/2008 2 N.N. (men) Iraq drowned, found between Evros River delta and Alexandroupolis port (GR) by fishing boat NOB/KI
05/10/2008 18 N.N. Pakistan, Myanmar stowaways, died from asphyxiation in a track from Istanbul (TR) to GR after traffic accident Picum/Nt7/TodZam/NOB
05/10/2008 4 N.N. (3 men, 1 boy) Iraq drowned, bodies found between Evros River delta and Alexandroupolis port (GR) NOB/KI
05/10/2008 1 N.N. (man) Morocco stowaway, struck by car after falling off the truck he was hidden under on highway A381 (E) NOB/EP
05/10/2008 1 N.N. Sub-Saharan Africa stowaway, body found by Civil Guard in Melilla, was hiding in car compartment to enter Spain NOB/Verdad
04/10/2008 2 N.N. (men) unknown decomposing bodies found by Rescue Guard along coast between Estepona and Casares (E) NOB/Sur
02/10/2008 1 N.N. (man) Iraq drowned, body found by fishermen pulling in the nets near the shore of Alexandroupolis (GR) NOB/KI
in Oct 08 1 N.N. (40, man) Vietnam suicide, hanged himself in detention centre in Bautzen (D) as he feared deportation IRR/ARI
in Oct 08 2 N.N. (children) unknown drowned, bodies discovered by GR and TR authorities in north of Aegean sea PICUM/NOB
in Oct 08 1 N.N. (woman) unknown drowned, body discovered by GR and TR authorities in north of Aegean sea PICUM/NOB
in Oct 08 6 N.N. Iraq drowned, bodies discovered by GR and TR authorities in north of Aegean sea PICUM/NOB
in Oct 08 11 N.N. unknown drowned, bodies discovered by GR and TR authorities in north of Aegean sea PICUM/NOB
27/09/2008 4 N.N. (2 men) 2 Georgia, 2 unknown accidentally entered a minefield in Kastanea near Evros (GR), on the way to GR from Turkey NOB/KI
12/09/2008 25 N.N. Sub-Saharan Africa died of thirst, found in advanced state of decomposition by Algerian apolice in Sahara (DZ) MNS
11/09/2008 13 N.N. Africa bodies thrown overboard during the travel from Libya’s coast to Portopalo, Sicily (I) RAI/FE/NOB
08/09/2008 33 N.N. Sub-Saharan Africa died on the way to Canary Isl. (E), survivors were found by Moroccan sea patrol PICUM/EP/NOB
08/09/2008 21 N.N. Sub-Saharan Africa missing in the mined Sahara-Mauritanian border after been abandoned by Moroccan authority PICUM/EP
07/09/2007 1 N.N. (man) unknown heart attack in hospital, he arrived by boat in La Gomera (E) with other 117 migrants NOB/EP
06/09/2008 1 Solyman Rashed (man) Iraq killed by car bomb in Kirkuk (Iraq) 2 weeks after volontary rempatriation from GB IRR
05/09/2008 1 N.N. (26, male) Algeria reportedly drowned on way to (I), body found at Oued Saboun beach near Skikda (DZ) NOB/FE
in Sep 08 12 N.N. unknown drowned, shipwreck due to stormy waters , bodies found in Valletta (Malta) ANSA, Jw/NOB
in Sep 08 1 Baj Singh (man, 33) India crashed by truck in Trent Vale (GB) hiding under truck’s wheel Ndtv
in Sep 08 4 N.N. (± 27, men) unknown bodies found in state of decomposition near the coast of Vega Baja de Alicante (E) MNS/Picum
in Sep 08 13 N.N. Ghana, Niger, Nigeria drowned, thrown still alive into sea near Sicilian coasts (I) AFP, Picum
in Sep 08 14 N.N. (men) Sub-Saharan Africa 13 bodies found in the boat, 1 later in Arguineguin (E) after 12 days of trip from Mauritania ABC/MUGAK/PrensaLibre/ElDia/NOB
30/08/2008 14 N.N. Algeria reportedly drowned, boat capsized in stormy waters between Algeria and Sardinia (I) NOB/FE
28/08/2008 5 N.N. Tunisia reportedly drowned, boat sank near Zembra off Sidi Daud (TN), on way to Italy NOB

http://www.unitedagainstracism.org/p...stofdeaths.pdf

[Cetnik]

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Nee hoor volgens mij zijn ze gestorven door de wantoestanden in vele landen alsook door het oneerlijk asielbeleid in het westen .

Dat was niet de rest van hel lijstje het gaat nog veel verder ...



http://www.unitedagainstracism.org/p...stofdeaths.pdf

Begrijp jij geen Engels?
Moet haast wel, anders had je toch echt kunnen lezen dat de allermeesten gewoon door hun eigen handelen zijn doodgegaan. Ook in deel 3 van je lijstje.

[Wisord]

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Begrijp jij geen Engels?
Moet haast wel, anders had je toch echt kunnen lezen dat de allermeesten gewoon door hun eigen handelen zijn doodgegaan. Ook in deel 3 van je lijstje.

Jaja jongen eigen schuld dikken bult , moeten ze maar in hun eigen land blijven . Zoiets ?

[Cetnik]

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Jaja jongen eigen schuld dikken bult , moeten ze maar in hun eigen land blijven . Zoiets ?

Zoiets ja.

Goudzoekers verpesten het namelijk voor de echte vluchtelingen.

[Wisord]

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Zoiets ja.

Goudzoekers verpesten het namelijk voor de echte vluchtelingen.

Ik lees dat u langs geen kanten weet waar u het over heeft ....

[Cetnik]

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Ik lees dat u langs geen kanten weet waar u het over heeft ....

Da's raar... Dat idee heb ik bij jou ook al.