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Oud 1 mei 2011, 18:12   #21
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en de sharia invoeren
En wat dan nog mocht dat het geval zijn?
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En wat dan nog mocht dat het geval zijn?
Euh?
Voorstander van?
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Ik ben voorstander van democratie en als het volk dat wil, leg ik me daar bij neer en bemoei ik mij daar niet mee. Gij wel precies?
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Dat is ook een "ok clubje" die voor het welzijn van de mensen zorgt. Hospitalen, voedsel,... En institutioneel zijn zij de enigen die dat land zouden kunnen leiden.

Dat heb jij goed gezien, dat als ze aan de macht komen, wat democratisch niet meer dan normaal zou zijn, de rest van het Midden Oosten dat voorbeeld wil volgen en de zomer gaat losbarsten.
Het broederschap is bondgenoot van Europa.
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Naar eigen zeggen een tijdje geleden, zouden ze zich niet met de Egyptische politiek gaan bemoeien nadat Mubarak was verwijderd.

Niet dat ik dat ooit geloofd heb, de doelstellingen van die moslimbroederschap indachtig, maar ik meen me te herinneren dat een groot aantal zogenaamde "deskundigen" op de Europese staatszenders het publiek bezwoeren dat die broederschap eigenlijk best een ok clubje met heel redelijke mensen is, en dat het met die politieke ambities heus zo'n vaart niet zou lopen.
Het gaat vast nog heel gezellig worden in zowel Egypte als de rest van het Midden-Oosten, mochten zij aan de macht komen.
Gezellig in Europa ook.
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Ik ben voorstander van democratie en als het volk dat wil, leg ik me daar bij neer en bemoei ik mij daar niet mee. Gij wel precies?
Dus als het volk, of beter gezegd, een krappe meerderheid van het volk, door op de moslimbroederschap te stemmen democratisch aangeeft geen democratie te willen, dan leg jij je daar bij neer?
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Het broederschap is bondgenoot van Europa.
Kun je dit wat verder uitleggen? Met name wie of wat je met Europa bedoelt.
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Dus als het volk, of beter gezegd, een krappe meerderheid van het volk, door op de moslimbroederschap te stemmen democratisch aangeeft geen democratie te willen, dan leg jij je daar bij neer?
Dat is wat democratie inhoud inderdaad. Gij gaat u daar niet bij neerleggen ofwa? Gij bent geen democraat?

Gij gaat daar (hypothetisch )uw visie gaan opdringen van hoe het wel moet en desnoods platbombarderen? Ook dat werkt niet..
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Het broederschap is bondgenoot van Europa.
Waarom zouden we geen vrienden zijn.
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Dat is wat democratie inhoud inderdaad. Gij gaat u daar niet bij neerleggen ofwa? Gij bent geen democraat?

Gij gaat daar (hypothetisch )uw visie gaan opdringen van hoe het wel moet en desnoods platbombarderen? Ook dat werkt niet..
Democratie houdt voor mij in dat alle deelnemende partijen diezelfde democratie ook onderschrijven en niet dat democratie misbruikt wordt als een vehikel op weg naar bijvoorbeeld een theocratische dictatuur. Hitler is destijds eveneens democratisch aan de macht gekomen en schafte die af zodra de gelegenheid zich aandiende, net zoals de moslimbroederschap dat ongetwijfeld ook zal doen.

Verder ben ik geenzins van plan daar mijn visie te gaan opdringen, zelfs niet hypothetisch, en nog minder om ze desnoods naar de democratie te bombarderen. Voornamelijk omdat ik vind dat dit vooralsnog een interne Egyptische aangelegenheid is. Maar komt de moslimbroederschap als overwinnaar uit de verkiezingen, dan gaan de Kopten daar gegarandeerd nog bardere tijden tegemoet, wordt het vredesverdrag met Israël per direct opgezegd, en gaan ze hun shariah exporteren, in eerste instantie naar de buurlanden, en later naar Europa. Niet echt een aangenaam vooruitzicht.
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Ik ben voorstander van democratie en als het volk dat wil, leg ik me daar bij neer en bemoei ik mij daar niet mee. Gij wel precies?
Sharia en democrate in één zin gebruiken?

Het islamitisch recht is geen recht in westerse zin. Er is geen sprake van wetboeken die bedoeld zijn om conflicten te voorkomen en, in het uiterste geval, te beslechten.

Sharia is in de eerste plaats een religieuze plichtenleer die het menselijk handelen in wereldse en religieuze zaken bepaalt, zowel in de relatie van mensen onderling als van mens tot God.

Hoewel het eindoordeel over het menselijk handelen door de Koran bij God gelegd wordt, omvat de sharia ook sancties om het juiste handelen af te dwingen wanneer daar een maatschappelijk belang mee is gediend.
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Democratie houdt voor mij in dat alle deelnemende partijen diezelfde democratie ook onderschrijven en niet dat democratie misbruikt wordt als een vehikel op weg naar bijvoorbeeld een theocratische dictatuur. Hitler is destijds eveneens democratisch aan de macht gekomen en schafte die af zodra de gelegenheid zich aandiende, net zoals de moslimbroederschap dat ongetwijfeld ook zal doen.

Verder ben ik geenzins van plan daar mijn visie te gaan opdringen, zelfs niet hypothetisch, en nog minder om ze desnoods naar de democratie te bombarderen. Voornamelijk omdat ik vind dat dit vooralsnog een interne Egyptische aangelegenheid is. Maar komt de moslimbroederschap als overwinnaar uit de verkiezingen, dan gaan de Kopten daar gegarandeerd nog bardere tijden tegemoet, wordt het vredesverdrag met Israël per direct opgezegd, en gaan ze hun shariah exporteren, in eerste instantie naar de buurlanden, en later naar Europa. Niet echt een aangenaam vooruitzicht.
Dat "vredesverdrag" is er nooit geweest tussen Egypte en Israel in de eerste plaats. Enkel tussen Israel en een despoot. Dat dat per direct opgezegd wordt is niet meer dan normaal, net zoals de blokkade opgeheven wordt.

Volgens mij ben je een beetje gebrainwasht door zionistische propaganda. Of ben je gewoon een zion propagandist. Sharia importeren. Welke idioot denk je daar bang mee te maken, uzelf? Grappig.
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Sharia en democrate in één zin gebruiken?

Het islamitisch recht is geen recht in westerse zin. Er is geen sprake van wetboeken die bedoeld zijn om conflicten te voorkomen en, in het uiterste geval, te beslechten.

Sharia is in de eerste plaats een religieuze plichtenleer die het menselijk handelen in wereldse en religieuze zaken bepaalt, zowel in de relatie van mensen onderling als van mens tot God.

Hoewel het eindoordeel over het menselijk handelen door de Koran bij God gelegd wordt, omvat de sharia ook sancties om het juiste handelen af te dwingen wanneer daar een maatschappelijk belang mee is gediend.
Ge woont er toch niet? Zij moeien u ook niet met u.
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Dus als het volk, of beter gezegd, een krappe meerderheid van het volk, door op de moslimbroederschap te stemmen democratisch aangeeft geen democratie te willen, dan leg jij je daar bij neer?
De 'logische' voortzetting lijkt me oorlog te zijn op een serieuze schaal in Noord-Afrika. Iemand moet de spanningen en teleurstellingen bekopen. Een soort Franse revolutie-achtige omstandigheden, zeker met de toestand in een aantal andere landen in de regio. Noord-Afrika krijgt zijn 14-18.
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Neokolonialisme
Neokolonialisme is een politieke term die de exploitatie beschrijft waar rijke landen zich schuldig aan maken t.a.v. hun zelfstandig geworden (vroegere koloniale) gebieden. Dit concept wordt gezien als de laatste fase van imperialisme. De term werd voornamelijk gebruikt door Afrikaanse en Latijns-Amerikaanse landen, revolutionairen, vooral in socialistische en communistische kringen.

Concept

Het belangrijkste verschil tussen neokolonialisme en het oude type van kolonialisme ligt in de overschakeling van open of directe vormen naar verborgen of indirecte vormen van slavernij, overheersing en uitbuiting van de ontwikkelingslanden.

Een belangrijk kenmerk van zulk neokolonialisme is dat de imperialisten gedwongen werden om hun oude stijl van directe koloniale heerschappij te veranderen in sommige gebieden en een nieuwe stijl van koloniale heerschappij en uitbuiting aan te nemen door te vertrouwen op de door hen geselecteerde en tussenpersonen.

Zo werden voornamelijk de Verenigde Staten ervan verdacht dit toe te passen, met verschillende middelen. Voorbeelden van die middelen zijn bij landen die net hun onafhankelijkheid hebben uitgeroepen te controleren, militaire blokken te organiseren, militaire basissen op te zetten, ‘federaties’ of ‘gemeenschappen’ op te richten en marionettenregimes te installeren.

Door economische ‘hulp’ of andere vormen behouden zij deze landen als afzetmarkten voor hun producten, grondstofbronnen en afzetgebieden voor hun kapitaaluitvoer, plunderen er de rijkdommen zonder rekening te houden met de baat van het volk en de mensenrechten.

Zo wordt niet alleen de V.S. maar ook de Verenigde Naties ervan beschuldigd het neokolonialisme in de hand te werken, door invloed uit te oefenen op de binnenlandse politiek van onafhankelijke staten.

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Full-spectrum dominance


Full-spectrum dominance is a military concept whereby a joint military structure achieves control over all elements of the battlespace using land, air, maritime and space based assets.

Full spectrum dominance includes the physical battlespace; air, surface and sub-surface as well as the electromagnetic spectrum and information space. Control implies that freedom of opposition force assets to exploit the battlespace is wholly constrained.

US military doctrine

Offically known as full-spectrum superiority and defined by the U.S. military as:

The cumulative effect of dominance in the air, land, maritime, and space domains and information environment that permits the conduct of joint operations without effective opposition or prohibitive interference.[1]
The United States military's doctrine has espoused a strategic intent to be capable of achieving this state in a conflict, either alone or with allies[2] by defeating any adversary and controlling any situation across the range of military operations.

The stated intent implies significant investment in a range of capabilities; dominant maneuver, precision engagement, focused logistics, and full-dimensional protection.

Criticism

As early as 2005, the credibility of full-spectrum dominance as a practical strategic doctrine was dismissed by Professor Philip Taylor of the University of Leeds[3] an expert consultant to the US and UK governments on psychological operations, propaganda and diplomacy.

"It's true, though rarely recognized in the control-freakery world of the military, that full spectrum dominance is impossible in the global information environment."

Harold Pinter referred to the term in his 2005 Nobel Prize acceptance speech:

"I have said earlier that the United States is now totally frank about putting its cards on the table. That is the case. Its official declared policy is now defined as 'full spectrum dominance'. That is not my term, it is theirs. 'Full spectrum dominance' means control of land, sea, air and space and all attendant resources."

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Democratie houdt voor mij in dat alle deelnemende partijen diezelfde democratie ook onderschrijven en niet dat democratie misbruikt wordt als een vehikel op weg naar bijvoorbeeld een theocratische dictatuur. Hitler is destijds eveneens democratisch aan de macht gekomen en schafte die af zodra de gelegenheid zich aandiende, net zoals de moslimbroederschap dat ongetwijfeld ook zal doen.

Verder ben ik geenzins van plan daar mijn visie te gaan opdringen, zelfs niet hypothetisch, en nog minder om ze desnoods naar de democratie te bombarderen. Voornamelijk omdat ik vind dat dit vooralsnog een interne Egyptische aangelegenheid is. Maar komt de moslimbroederschap als overwinnaar uit de verkiezingen, dan gaan de Kopten daar gegarandeerd nog bardere tijden tegemoet, wordt het vredesverdrag met Israël per direct opgezegd, en gaan ze hun shariah exporteren, in eerste instantie naar de buurlanden, en later naar Europa. Niet echt een aangenaam vooruitzicht.
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Dat "vredesverdrag" is er nooit geweest tussen Egypte en Israel in de eerste plaats. Enkel tussen Israel en een despoot. Dat dat per direct opgezegd wordt is niet meer dan normaal, net zoals de blokkade opgeheven wordt.

Volgens mij ben je een beetje gebrainwasht door zionistische propaganda. Of ben je gewoon een zion propagandist. Sharia importeren. Welke idioot denk je daar bang mee te maken, uzelf? Grappig.
Ik vind je uitspraken nogal vreemd eigenlijk, want Anwar Sadat die destijds dat vredesverdrag ondertekende, was immers de democratisch verkozen president van Egypte.
Ter herinnering je eigen woorden: "Ik ben voorstander van democratie en als het volk dat wil, leg ik me daar bij neer en bemoei ik mij daar niet mee."

Waarom je opeens dingen zegt als "gebrainwasht door zionistische propaganda", is me een raadsel, aangezien ik me op het handvest van de moslimbroederschap baseer, en dat lijken me toch niet bepaald zionisten te zijn.
Voorts sprak ik van shariah exporteren, en niet van importeren.
En tenslotte denk ik niemand bang te maken, maar geef ik slechts het meest voor de hand liggende scenario aan over wat er gebeurt als de ondemocratische moslimbroederschap meer dan de helft van de democratische stemmen weet te bemachtigen.
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Ik ben helemaal geen voorstander van democratie. Het was maar een sneer naar de Westerse hypocriete waarden over democratie.

Waarom zou anders dat vredesverdrag tussen israel en egypte je "gevoelig" liggen dat je er over begint. Anyway, de broeders zijn geen extremisten, zoals jij wil doen laten uitschijnen en helemaal niet uit om de infedels te gaan komen bekeren.

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Bedoel je daarmee dat de EU de nieuwe kolonisator is of zou willen zijn en dat de moslimbroederschap daarbij een bondgenoot is? Of eerder andersom, dat de moslimbroederschap aan neokolonialisme wil doen en dat de EU daarbij helpt?
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In 1990 Yusuf al-Qaradawi, an influential Sunni scholar and the unofficial theological leader of the international Muslim Brotherhood (al Ikhwan al Muslimoun), published a book called Priorities of the Islamic Movement in the Coming Phase. [1] This 186-page treatise can be considered the most recent manifesto of the Islamist revivalist movement. As Qaradawi explains in the introduction, the “Islamic Movement” is meant to be the “organized, collective work, undertaken by the people, to restore Islam to the leadership of society” and to reinstate “the Islamic caliphate system to the leadership anew as required by sharia.”
Qaradawi’s treatise introduces a new agenda and modus operandi for the movement, signaling a clear break with many salafi groups and even with some past ideological elements of the Muslim Brotherhood. While the book does not rule out the use of violence to defend Muslim lands, it generally advocates the use of dawa, dialogue, and other peaceful means to achieve the movement’s goals. This doctrine is commonly referred to as “wassatiyya,” a sort of “middle way” between violent extremism and secularism, and Qaradawi is one of its key proponents.
After examining the situation of the “Islamic Movement” throughout the Muslim world, the dissertation devotes significant attention to the situation of Muslims living in the West. Qaradawi explains how Muslim expatriates living in Europe, Australia and North America “are no longer few in numbers,” and that their presence is both permanent and destined to grow with new waves of immigration. While Qaradawi says that their presence is “necessary” for several reasons—such as spreading the word of Allah globally and defending the Muslim Nation “against the antagonism and misinformation of anti- Islamic forces and trends”—it is also problematic. Because the Muslim Nation, and therefore Muslim minorities “scattered throughout the world,” do not have a centralized leadership, “melting” poses a serious risk. Qaradawi warns, in other words, that a Muslim minority could lose its Islamic identity and be absorbed by the non-Muslim majority.
Qaradawi sees the lack of Muslim leadership not only as a problem, however. He also views it as an unprecedented opportunity for the Islamist movement to “play the role of the missing leadership of the Muslim Nation with all its trends and groups.” While the revivalist movement can exercise only limited influence in Muslim countries, where hostile regimes keep it in check, Qaradawi realizes that it is able to operate freely in the democratic West. Muslim expatriates disoriented by life in non-Muslim communities and often lacking the most basic knowledge about Islam, moreover, represent an ideally receptive audience for the movement’s propaganda. Qaradawi asserts that revivalists need to take on an activist role in the West, claiming that “it is the duty of [the] Islamic Movement not to leave these expatriates to be swept by the whirlpool of the materialistic trend that prevails in the West.”
Having affirmed the necessity of the Islamist movement in the West, Qaradawi proceeds to present a plan of operation. The Egyptian-born scholar openly calls for the creation of a separate society for Muslims within the West. While he highlights the importance of keeping open a dialogue with non-Muslims, he advocates the establishment of Muslim communities with “their own religious, educational and recreational establishments.” He urges his fellow revivalists to try “to have your small society within the larger society” and “your own ‘Muslim ghetto.’”
Qaradawi clearly sees the Islamist movement playing a crucial role in creating these separated Muslim communities and thereby providing it with an unprecedented opportunity to implement its vision, at least partially. Its local affiliates will run the mosques, schools, and civic organizations that shape the daily life of the desired “Muslim ghettoes.” And Qaradawi’s ambitions go further still. Without saying so openly, he suggests that sharia law should govern the relations among inhabitants of these Muslim islands; Muslim minorities “should also have amongst them their own ulema and men of religion to answer their questions when they ask them, guide them when they lose the way and reconcile them when they differ among themselves.”

What Qaradawi outlines in his treatise might, at first glance, appear to be nothing more than a fantasy. In reality, it corresponds to what the international network of the Muslim Brotherhood has been doing in the West for the past fifty years. Since the end of World War II, in fact, members of al Ikhwan al Muslimoun have settled in Europe and worked relentlessly to implement the goals stated by Qaradawi. In almost every European country, they founded student organizations that, having evolved into nationwide umbrella organizations, have become—thanks to their activism and to the financial support from Arab Gulf countries—the most prominent representatives of local Muslim communities. They established a web of mosques, research centers, think tanks, charities and schools that has been successful in spreading their heavily politicized interpretation of Islam. Finally, today, with the creation of a supranational jurisprudential body called the European Council for Fatwa and Research, the Ikhwan is taking its first, cautious steps toward Qaradawi’s final goal: the introduction of sharia law within the Muslim communities of Europe.
Having been the focus of attention of authorities since its early days, the Muslim Brotherhood tends to be extremely secretive, and only if circumstances are favorable do its members reveal their affiliation. While most of the first Islamic activists in Europe were official members of the Brotherhood, moreover, formal links between the group’s Middle Eastern base and its European followers have waned over time for various reasons. But the issue of formal affiliation to the Ikhwan is moot because the Muslim Brotherhood is more than a group; it is now better defined as a movement whose organization is far from monolithic and whose members are kept together mostly by ideological affinity.
Mohammed Akif, the current General Guide and supreme leader of the Brotherhood and a former head of its Islamic Center of Munich, explained the Ikhwan’s transcendence of formalities in an interview with Xavier Ternisien, a French expert on religion. [3] He said,
We do not have an international organization; we have an organization through our perception of things. We are present in every country. Everywhere there are people who believe in the message of the Muslim Brothers. In France, the Union of Islamic Organizations of France (UOIF) does not belong to the organization of the Brothers. They follow their own laws and rules. There are many organizations that do not belong to the Muslim Brothers. For example, Shaykh al-Qaradawi. He is not a Muslim Brother, but he was formed according to the doctrine of the Brothers. The doctrine of the Brothers is a written doctrine that has been translated in all languages.
In a 2005 interview Akif elaborated further. European Ikhwan organizations have no direct link to the Egyptian branch, he insisted, but they nevertheless coordinate actions with them. He concluded the interview saying, tellingly, that “we [the Ikhwan] have the tendency not to make distinctions among us.” [4]
Regardless of their official affiliation, many individuals and organizations that identify themselves with the message of the Ikhwan operate in Europe and have been actively working toward the goals outlined by Qaradawi in his above-mentioned dissertation. Driven by their firm belief in the superiority of Islam to any other religion or system of life, the European Brothers fight daily to achieve their goal, using all possible tools, including painful but necessary compromises with European authorities. “Islam will return to Europe as a conqueror and victor, after being expelled from it twice,” Qaradawi says. But he adds, “I maintain that the conquest this time will not be by the sword but by preaching and ideology.” [5] The European Ikhwan network, under the cover of various civil rights groups and Islamic organizations, is the vanguard of this peaceful conquest.
Putting Down Roots in Europe
According to Mohammed Akif, “the Brotherhood established itself in Europe” in the 1950s. [6] At that time Nasser and other pan-Arabist regimes were cracking down on the organization, and many of its members had to flee their homelands. For various reasons most of the Muslim Brothers leaving the persecution of Middle Eastern regimes chose West Germany as their destination. Some had reportedly established links with Germany during World War II when the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Haj Amin al Husseini, moved to Berlin and aided the Nazi regime in its anti-Jewish propaganda. [7] Others benefited from the fact that the West German government, implementing what came to be known as the Hallstein doctrine, had opened its doors to dissidents persecuted by regimes that had recognized East Germany, which included Egypt and Syria. [8] Many were attracted, moreover, by the prestige of the country’s technical faculties and decided to further their studies in Germany’s engineering, architecture, and medical schools.
Among this group of pioneers of revivalist Islam in Europe, Said Ramadan stands out. Born in 1926 in a village north of Cairo, Ramadan joined the Muslim Brotherhood at age 14 after attending a lecture by the organization’s founder, Hassan al-Banna. [9] In 1946, upon obtaining his law license from the University of Cairo, Ramadan became al-Banna’s personal secretary and began the publication of Al Shihab, the organization’s official magazine. In 1948 he fought in Palestine among Arab volunteers and was briefly appointed the head of Jerusalem’s military corps by King Abdallah of Jordan. He then traveled to the newly established state of Pakistan where, despite his young age, he competed for the chair of secretary general of the World Muslim Congress.
By December 1948 the Egyptian government had outlawed the Brotherhood, and the following year Egyptian police assassinated al-Banna. Given these developments, Ramadan decided to remain in Pakistan, where he worked as a “cultural ambassador” of the country to the Arab world. In 1950, as the ban on the Brotherhood was lifted, he returned to Egypt and began to publish Al Muslimoon, one of the most important magazines of revivalist thought. Nasser’s sudden rise to power in 1953 shook Egyptian political life and—after a short period of peaceful coexistence among the Brothers and Nasser’s Free Officers government—another clampdown on the Brotherhood ensued.”
Realizing he could not continue his activities in Egypt, Ramadan left the country after his release.
Following short sojourns in various Middle Eastern countries, he moved to Europe permanently with his wife Wafa, al-Banna’s eldest daughter. They settled in Geneva, Switzerland, and Ramadan enrolled at the University of Cologne, where he obtained a graduate degree in law with a dissertation on Islamic law.
In 1961 Ramadan founded the Islamic Center of Geneva, located first in a villa donated by an Arabian prince and then in an odd white and green building a stone’s throw from Lake Leman. Other eminent Islamic scholars sat on the founding board of the center, including the Indian scholars Mohammed Hamidullah and Maulana Abdul Hassan Ali al Nadwi. It became one of the main headquarters of the Muslim Brotherhood in Europe, and was the first of a score that Ramadan worked to set up throughout Europe with the financial support of Saudi Arabia. The next year Ramadan was also instrumental in the Saudi kingdom’s establishment of the Muslim World League, a government funded transnational organization created to spread the Saudi interpretation of Islam. Ramadan was one of its main founders and even wrote its constitution.
With the ample financial backing of the Saudis, Ramadan began to establish the Brotherhood in other European countries. An early opportunity arose when a group of Arab students in Munich contacted him for help with the construction of a mosque in that city. The Arab students were competing for control of the Mosque Construction Commission, a body that was trying to raise funds for the new Munich mosque. [10] Their adversaries were a group of Muslim ex-soldiers who had fought with the Nazis during World War II and had stayed in Munich after the conflict. Originating from Central Asia and the Caucasus, these ex-soldiers embraced a moderate interpretation of Islam that clashed with the more militant views of the Arabs. By 1960 Ramadan, thanks to his Saudi funding, secured for himself the position of chairman of the commission, and by 1973, when the mosque was completed, the Brotherhood had completely overshadowed other influences over the mosque.
As Geneva was the launching pad for the European operations of the Brotherhood, Munich became its main headquarters in Germany. The Ramadan-dominated Mosque Construction Commission became a permanent organization, which later changed its name to the Islamic Society of Germany (IGD). Ramadan headed the organization for ten years until 1973, when one of the students who had originally contacted him, Syrian born Ghaleb Himmat, took over at the helm. [11]
Himmat, who kept his position until 2002, is a prominent member of the European Ikhwan network and co-founder of Bank al-Taqwa, a financial institution widely believed to have served as the Brotherhood’s clearinghouse in the West. According to European and American authorities, Himmat and Youssef Nada, one of the Brother hood’s top financial minds, used al-Taqwa and an extensive network of companies to finance the construction and activities of dozens of Brotherhood-related projects throughout the West. Both men, whom the U.S. Treasury Department also accuses of having financed Hamas and al Qaeda, [12] have been designated terrorism financiers by various Western countries and by the United Nations.
After Himmat’s retirement, the chairmanship of the IGD passed to Ibrahim El Zayat, a younger, German-born activist with a phenomenal talent for both public relations and, like his predecessor, murky financial transactions. In 2002 El Zayat, as a director of the Saudi-based NGO World Assembly of Muslim Youth (WAMY) that spreads Wahhabi literature worldwide, came under investigation in Germany for having funneled more than two million dollars to an al-Qaeda-linked charity and for his involvement in other money-laundering activities. [13] Yet thanks to its activism and good finances, the IGD is now Germany’s most important Muslim organization, representing more than sixty Islamic centers nationwide. Together with Milli Görüs, the Turkish revivalist organization linked to the Refah party that has more than 25,000 members and an estimated 100,000 sympathizers in Germany, the IGD is the de facto voice of the German Muslim community. [14] The two organizations—whose leaders are linked through marriage [15]—have formally joined forces, creating the umbrella organization Zentralrat, and they monopolize the public debate about Islam in Germany and control the majority of German mosques. [16]
Various German security agencies have repeatedly highlighted the links between these groups and the Brotherhood, and warned about the ambiguity of their rhetoric. An official report from the Office for the Protection of the Constitution in Hessen, for example, stated that
the threat of Islamism for Germany is posed … primarily by Milli Görüs and other affiliated groups. They try to spread Islamist views within the boundaries of the law. Then they try to implement … for all Muslims in Germany a strict interpretation of the Quran and of the sharia… Their public support of tolerance and religious freedom should be treated with caution.
Yet, despite these warnings, German politicians consider the Ikhwan groups their primary partners in the dialogue over issues involving the Muslim community, thus granting them legitimacy and empowering them.


Flowering in France
While Said Ramadan was active in developing organizations in Germany, another founding member of the Islamic Center of Geneva, Mohammed Hamidullah, created the first revivalist organization in France. An Indian-born intellectual, author of almost two hundred works on Islamic history, culture and law, Hamidullah headed the Paris-based Association of Islamic Students in France (AEIF). Even though Hamidullah was a moderate, more intent on his studies than on political activities, the AEIF soon became home base for a small group of radical foreign Muslim students who were attending Parisian universities. Among them was Hasan al Turabi, a young Sudanese law student destined to become one of the most important figures of Islamic revivalism of the last thirty years. [18] The son of a qadi (Islamic judge) from the southern part of Sudan, Turabi had joined the Muslim Brotherhood on the campus of the University College of Khartoum in the 1950s and continued his Islamic militancy while studying law at the Sorbonne. [19] Other well-known figures who orbited around the AEIF were Abolhassan Banisadr, the first President of the Islamic Republic of Iran; [20] Said Ramadan al Boutih, one of Syria’s most prestigious legal scholars; and Issam al Attar, a top Muslim Brotherhood leader who fled Syria to escape the regime and finally settled in the German city of Aachen, where he founded the Bilal mosque. [21]
This select group came to debate the purpose of their sojourn in the West. The Syrian branch of the Brotherhood, headed in Europe by Attar, viewed its exile as instrumental to furthering its struggle in Syria. For them, at least in the beginning, Europe was just a convenient place from which they could operate against the Syrian regime, and the AEIF was little more than a club for foreign Muslim students who were planning to leave France at the end of their studies. It had no serious political mission beyond promoting revivalist ideas among its members. But others in the European Brotherhood, particularly the Egyptians, saw their hijra (forced migration, comparing it to the Prophet’s time in Medina) as more long-term and Europe as a permanent base from which to expand the Ikhwan’s struggle to impose God’s word worldwide. The Brothers were in Europe to stay, they concluded, and the continent—with its freedom, wealth and growing Muslim population—was the ideal new front from which the Brotherhood could operate.
In 1979 a small group of AEIF members who embraced the long-term vision of the Egyptian branch of the European Brotherhood, and who wanted to extend the influence of the movement to the Muslim population of France, created a new organization—the Islamic Group in France, which in 1983 became the Union of Islamic Organizations in France (UOIF). [22] While the official founders were two students, Iraqi national Zuhair Mahmood and Tunisian national Abdallah Ben Mansour, the UOIF had two important godfathers. The first was Faysal Mawlawi, a former member of the AEIF during his Parisian days who had returned to his native Lebanon to run the al Jamaa al Islamiya radical political party. The second was Rashid Ghannouchi, secretary of the AEIF between 1968 and 1969 and head of al Nahda, the Islamist movement that battled the Tunisian regime. [23] Ghannouchi and Mawlawi, wise politicians with a tremendous ability to adapt their rhetoric to circumstances, understood that the Brothers needed a well-structured organization to be able to influence the political debate and, simultaneously, to radicalize the Muslim minority in the European country with the largest Muslim population.
Over the last twenty years the UOIF has developed into France’s largest and most active Muslim organization, controlling a large number of mosques and attracting tens of thousands of attendees to its annual gathering in Le Bourget. Today the UOIF even boasts its own institution of Islamic knowledge, the European Institute of Human Sciences (IESH). [24] Located in a castle in rural Burgundy, IESH offers various degrees and diplomas in Islamic studies, and states that its goal is to educate imams who, in addition to having an adequate theological and scientific background, will demonstrate “good assimilation in the Western reality.” Given the background of the individuals involved in IESH, however, “assimilation” is unlikely to be its primary goal. The institute was founded by key members of the UOIF, such as Ahmed Jaballah and Zuhair Mahmoud, and regularly hosts the most prominent figures of the international Ikhwan network. [25] Its scientific council is headed by Yusuf al-Qaradawi, [26] and Faysal Mawlawi, the spiritual guide of the UOIF, is a frequent visitor and lecturer. [27]
The French government has a schizophrenic attitude toward UOIF. On the one hand, the French Council of State significantly turned down the naturalization request of Ben Mansour, a founding member of UOIF, alleging that he headed “a federation to which are affiliated many extremist movements which reject the essential values of French society.” [28] On the other hand, French Minister of Interior Nicolas Sarkozy publicly stated that he believes the UOIF has always held positions that “respected the Republic” and is a reliable partner in the delicate dialogue over the integration of the French Muslim community. [29]
UOIF representatives, most of them recipients of degrees from prestigious French universities, are involved in countless interfaith, anti-racism, and pro-integration partnerships with Christian, private, and government organizations. At the same time, however, they have not abandoned their radical worldview and are occasionally caught making blatantly anti-Semitic remarks or defending the actions of Hamas. [30] Books such as The Protocols of the Elders of Zion and works of al-Banna and Qutb are regularly sold at UOIF’s events. Tellingly, when UOIF was still a small entity and not under much media scrutiny, one of its representatives, Ahmed Djaballah, defined the launch of the organization as having two stages: “The first stage of the launch is democratic; the second will be putting the Islamic society in orbit.” [31]

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Most Ikhwan groups operating in Europe have the stated goal of establishing Islamic law for local Muslim populations. The Brothers understand that the places where this is most likely to occur are in areas of high Islamic concentration—in other words, in Qaradawi’s “Muslim ghettoes.” The Brothers believe that, once Muslims reach a majority in certain areas of various European countries, European governments will feel compelled to allow Islamic law to regulate the personal/civil relations among them.
While the Ikhwan’s intentions might appear to be nothing more than a dream, a disturbingly large number of European Muslims seem to favor introducing Islamic law into Europe. A 2005 poll revealed that four out of ten British Muslims want sharia introduced into parts of Britain. [86] Another poll conducted by a local Muslim institute reports that 21 per cent of Muslims living in Germany believe that the German constitution is incompatible with the teachings of the Quran. [87] But while salafi and other extremist organizations are already demanding the introduction of sharia in a confrontational and counterproductive way, the more politically savvy Brothers are using a different strategy to achieve the same goal.
The European Ikhwan have repeatedly compromised their strict observance of sharia in order to advance their cause. Every tactic that might help the movement is justified, even if it entails breaking some Quranic principle, because the higher goal of spreading Islam excuses all deviations. Mawlawi and other Ikhwan scholars have asserted, for example, that the creation of Islamic centers in the West is a priority for the Islamic Movement. Muslims should make every effort, therefore, to purchase buildings and turn them into mosques, even if they must resort to financial transactions forbidden by Islamic law to do so. [88] Similarly, asked whether Muslims could vote and participate in the political life of their European host countries, the Council responded that the issue “is to be decided by Islamic organizations and establishment,” which should evaluate what position best serves the interests of the Movement. [89] At the moment the Brothers have embraced compromise as the best means of increasing their influence, which will allow them in turn to lobby more effectively for their goals—goals that include the establishment of sharia in Europe.
Now relatively weak in the West, the Brotherhood has concluded that engaging in dialogue and showing openness and moderation is their wisest strategy. But if the balance of power were to change over the next few decades, nothing guarantees that the Ikhwan would not change its approach and discard dialogue. A German government’s analysis of the tactics of Islamist groups operating in Germany reveals a well-founded suspicion that the Ikhwan’s desire for dialogue is far from sincere: “While in recent times, the Milli Görüs has increasingly emphasized the readiness of its members to be integrated into German society and asserts its adherence to the basic law, such statements stem from tactical calculation rather than from any inner change of the organization.” [90]
To date European Brotherhood organizations have rarely been directly linked to specific cases of terrorism, but their contribution to the education and radicalization of violent extremists has already been significant. The Brotherhood’s renunciation of violence seems more opportunistic than genuine, moreover, when its European members use fiery rhetoric to endorse terrorist operations in the Middle East. While they are quick to condemn violence in the West to avoid becoming political pariahs, they do not refrain from approving of it elsewhere, notably in the Middle East, because they believe they can get away with it. It is not unreasonable to assume, therefore, that should it become convenient for them to do so, the ever-flexible Brotherhood would embrace violent tactics in the West as well.


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