Tien Vragen Aan De Zionisten Door Weissmandl

[bruut geweld]

tja , als een joodse rabbi het zelf zegt......


Ten questions to the Zionists
by Rabbi Michael Dov Weissmandl ZT"L
Dean of Nitra Yeshiva and author of min hametzar

(Published by the author in 1948 and reprinted many times)
1.
IS IT TRUE that in 1941 and again in 1942, the German Gestapo offered all European Jews transit to Spain, if they would relinquish all their property in Germany and Occupied France; on condition that:
a) none of the deportees travel from Spain to Palestine; and
b) all the deportees be transported from Spain to the USA or British colonies, and there to remain; with entry visas to be arranged by the Jews living there; and
c) $1000.00 ransom for each family to be furnished by the Agency, payable upon the arrival of the family at the Spanish border at the rate of 1000 families daily.

2.
IS IT TRUE that the Zionist leaders in Switzerland and Turkey received this offer with the clear understanding that the exclusion of Palestine as a destination for the deportees was based on an agreement between the Gestapo and the Mufti.

3.
IS IT TRUE that the answer of the Zionist leaders was negative, with the following comments:
a) ONLY Palestine would be considered as a destination for the deportees.
b) The European Jews must accede to suffering and death greater in measure than the other nations, in order that the victorious allies agree to a "Jewish State" at the end of the war.c) No ransom will be paid

4.
IS IT TRUE that this response to the Gestapo's offer was made with the full knowledge that the alternative to this offer was the gas chamber. .

5
IS IT TRUE that in 1944, at the time of the Hungarian deportations, a similar offer was made, whereby all Hungarian Jewry could be saved.

6.
IS IT TRUE that the same Zionist hierarchy again refused this offer (after the gas chambers had already taken a toll of millions).

7.
IS IT TRUE that during the height of the killings in the war, 270 Members of the British Parliament proposed to evacuate 500,000 Jews from Europe, and resettle them in British colonies, as a part of diplomatic negotiations with Germany.

8.
IS IT TRUE that this offer was rejected by the Zionist leaders with the observation "Only to Palestine!"

9.
IS IT TRUE that the British government granted visas to 300 rabbis and their families to the Colony of Mauritius, with passage for the evacuees through Turkey. The "Jewish Agency" leaders sabotaged this plan with the observation that the plan was disloyal to Palestine, and the 300 rabbis and their families should be gassed.

10.
IS IT TRUE that during the course of the negotiations mentioned above, Chaim Weitzman, the first "Jewish statesman" stated: "The most valuable part of the Jewish nation is already in Palestine, and those Jews living outside Palestine are not too important". Weitzman's cohort, Greenbaum, amplified this statement with the observation "One cow in Palestine is worth more than all the Jews in Europe".

There are additional similar questions to be asked of these atheist degenerates known as "Jewish statesmen", but for the time being let them respond to the ten questions.

These Zionist "statesmen" with their great foresight, sought to bring an end two two-thousand years of Divinely ordained Jewish subservience and political tractability. With their offensive militancy, they fanned the fires of anti-Semitism in Europe, and succeeded in forging a bond of Jew-hatred between Nazi-Germany and the surrounding countries.

These are the "statesmen" who organized the irresponsible boycott against Germany in 1933. This boycott hurt Germany like a fly attacking an elephant - but it brought calamity upon the Jews of Europe. At a time when America and England were at peace with the mad-dog Hitler, the Zionist "statesmen" forsook the only plausible method of political amenability; and with their boycott incensed the leader of Germany to a frenzy. And then, after the bitterest episode in Jewish history, these Zionist "statesmen" lured the broken refugees in the DP camps to remain in hunger and deprivation, and to refuse relocation to any place but Palestine; only for the purpose of building their State.

The Zionist "statesmen" have incited and continue to incite an embittered Jewish youth to futile wars against world powers like England, and against masses of hundreds of millions of Arabs.

AND THESE SAME ZIONIST "STATESMEN" HEEDLESSLY PUSH THE WORLD TO THE BRINK OF ANOTHER TOTAL WAR - REVOLVING ENTIRELY AROUND THE HOLY LAND.
What may befall the Jewish inhabitants of Palestine, of the Arab crescent, Europe, or the USA; is of no concern to these Zionist leaders. The rising anti-Semitism in the Western World is the product of their "statesmanship".

Under the guise of "love of Israel", the Zionist "statesmen" seduced many Jews to replace devotion to the Torah and its Sages with devotion to the scoundrel who founded Zionism. It is of no little significance that Herzl originally sought conversion of the Jews as a solution to the problems of the Diaspora. When he realized that this was not acceptable to the Jewish masses, he contrived Zionism as a satisfactory alternative!

A look into history reveals that this very same type of "statesmen" opposed the call of Jeremiah the prophet to yield to the minions of Nebuchadnezzar at the destruction of the first Temple. Five centuries later, Rabbi Yochonon Ben Zakai appealed to the people to surrender to Titus the Roman to avoid bloodshed. The "statesmen" rejected this appeal, and the second Temple was destroyed by the Romans. --- And now for the past fifty years, the Zionist "statesmen" rebuff the leadership of our Sages; and continue in their policy of fomenting anti-Semitism. When will they stop?? Must every Jew in America also suffer?? - Even the Nazi monsters had more sense, and gave up their war before all Germany was destroyed. The Zionist "statesmen" ridicule the sacred oath which the Creator placed upon the Jews in the Diaspora. Our Torah, in Tractate Ksubos, folio 111, specifies that the Creator, blessed be He, swore the Jews not to occupy the Holy Land by force, even if it appears that they have the force to do so; and not rebel against the Nations. And the Creator warned that if His oath be desecrated, Jewish flesh would be "open property", like the animals in the forest!! These are words of our Torah; and these concepts have been cited in Maimonides' "Igeres Teimon", "Be'er HaGola", "Ahavas Yehonosson", and in "Toras Moshe" of the Chasam Sofer.



The only solution is:

The Jewish people must reject, outright, a "Jewish State".

The Jewish people should accept the US compromise.

We must depose the atheist-Zionist "statesmen" from their role as Jewish leaders, and return to the faithful leadership of our sages.

We beseech the Nations to open all doors to immigration - not only the doors of Palestine.

Peaceful, non-Zionist religious personalities in Palestine, (particularly from the native population) and their counterparts in the Diaspora, should engage in responsible, face-to face negotiations on behalf of the Jewish people, with the British and the Arabs; with an aim of amicable settlement of the Palestine issue.



Every Jew is obliged to pray to the Blessed creator, for in Him lies all our strength. Let us bear in mind that our prayers be forthright. One should not entreat the Creator to provide a banquet on Yom Kippur, and one can not perform a ritual ablution with a dead bug in his hand. Similarly, we should avoid the untenable position of the robber who prays for Divine help in carrying out his crime. We should pray that Zionism and its fruits vanish from the Earth, and that we be redeemed by the Messiah with dispatch.

A prisoner is released only when he has served his time, or if he is pardoned by the President for good behavior. If he attempts escape and is apprehended, his term is lengthened, besides the beating he receives when he is caught.

Faithful Jews- for over three and one-half thousand years, in all parts of the world, through all trials, our grandfathers and grandmothers marched through seas of blood and tears in order to keep the Faith of the Torah unswervingly. If we have compassion for ourselves, for our women and children, and for the Jewish people, we will maintain our golden legacy today. We have been sentenced to exile by the King of Kings because of our sins. The eternal blessed be He, has decreed that we accept the exile with humble gratitude until the time comes, or until we merit His pardon through repentance if we seek to end the exile with force, G-d will catch us, as our sages have forewarned, and our sentence becomes longer and more difficult.

Many times in the past have segments of our people been defrauded by false messiahs - but none of the false messiahs has been as fallacious and delusory as the lie of Zionism. With our historical experience as our guide, no retribution has been or will be greater than the retribution for giving credence to Zionism. If we wish our exile-sentence commuted, we must appeal through repentance; and through total physical and spiritual observance of the Sabbath, laws of family purity, and study of Torah.

Let it be clearly understood that never in Jewish history (even in the time of Jeroboam or Achav) have such hostile atheists stood at the helm of he Jewish people as today.

How can we plead to the Almighty for mercy while we tolerate these vile, "wicked" leaders as spokesmen! Beloved brothers - let us cleanse our ranks and cleanse our midst; let us entreat the Almighty through prayer, repentance, and fulfillment of mitzvos that He alone redeem us, immediately.

READ EXCERPT FROM RABBI WEISSMANDL'S BOOK Sefer Min Hametzar

[H. Guderian]

Oei! Er zullen er hier een aantal pisnijdig worden!

[bruut geweld]

ja, maar ik zeg het niet he !

het is een joodse rabbi 8) misschien een anti semiet ?

[tabufferkwa]

het hitler-stalin pakt treedt weer in actie?



Met deze is alles over deze post gezegd.

[bruut geweld]

tja, het is je eigen joodse medemens ....én een rabbi !

Misschien is het wel een joodse antisemiet ? dat is toch tegnwoordig iedereen ? zelfs moderatoren worden er reeds gratuit van beschuldigd....

[Leonardo]

wat heeft dat betoog nu te maken de binnenlandse politiek??
In al uw geweld vergeten dat er een forum 'buitenlandse (internationale) politiek' bestaat?



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[tabufferkwa]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Leonardo

wat heeft dat betoog nu te maken de binnenlandse politiek??
In al uw geweld vergeten dat er een forum 'buitenlandse politiek' bestaat?.

't is niks hoor, zijne zever strooit hij daar voorzeker ook nog en dan nog eens tien keer. Gewoon zo'n manie als hij ne keer iets gevonden heeft/

Maar dit zal al een beetje helpen

Rabbi Chaim Michael Dov Weissmandl (1903-1957) became famous for his efforts to the save the Jews of Slovakia from extermination at Nazi hands. In some books his name is spelled 'Weissmandel'.
Weissmandl was born in Hungary but soon moved to the region which today is Slovakia. In 1931 he moved to Nitra to study under Rabbi Samuel David Ungar, whose daughter he married. During the period of WWII, Weissmandl was an unofficial leader of the Working Group of Bratislava (see the next section). In 1944, Weissmandl and his family were put on a train headed for Auschwitz, but he managed to escape from the train and hid in a secret bunker in suburban Bratislava. In the final days of the war he was evacuated by a transport organized by Rudolf Kastner with German permission. Later he moved to the United States, where he established the Nitra Yeshiva at Mount Kisco, New York.
The Working Group
When the Nazis, aided by members of the puppet Slovak government, began its moves against the Slovakian Jews in 1942, a group of Jews calling themselves the Working Group began a campaign of opposition. Their main activity was to pay large bribes to German and Slovak officials. The transportation of Jews was in fact halted for a long time after they began to bribe the Nazi official Dieter Wisleceny. However, some historians, notably Yehuda Bauer, believe that the transportation was delayed for other reasons and that the bribes had little actual effect. The Working Group was also responsible for the ambitious but ill-fated Europa Plan which would have seen large numbers of European Jews "bought" from their Nazi captors.
Controversies
Since the business of the Working Group required a continuous supply of large sums of money, they turned to the international Jewish organizations for help, via their representatives in Switzerland. Here lies the root of a bitter and continuing debate. Weissmandl claimed that too little money was provided too late and that this was due to the indifference of those he asked. Specifically, he accused the Zionist organizations of refusing to assist in saving Jews unless they were to go to Palestine (a condition the Nazis were unwilling to accept). Weissmandl supported his allegations by quoting letters from memory, but the original letters have never been found and mainstream historians such as Bauer doubt the accuracy of his memory. Weissmandl's own summary of the charges is his Ten Questions to the Zionists, while the most learned rebuttal is in the book of Bauer cited below.

en te combineren met:

However, these heinous crimes, for which the Mufti bears direct responsibility, had only a limited impact on the overall destruction of European Jewry when compared with his nefarious wartime campaign to prevent Jewish emigration from Europe to Palestine. Invoking the personal support of such prominent Nazis as Himmler and Eichmann, the Mufti's relentless hectoring of German, Rumanian, and Hungarian government officials caused the cancellation of an estimated 480,000 exit visas which had been granted to Jews (80,000 from Rumania, and 400,000 from Hungary). As a result, these hapless individuals were deported to Polish concentration camps. A United Nations Assembly document presented in 1947 which contained the Mufti's June 28, 1943 letter to the Hungarian Foreign Minister requesting the deportation of Hungarian Jews to Poland, includes this stark, telling annotation: "As a Sequel to This Request 400,000 Jews Were Subsequently Killed". The Mufti escaped to the Middle East after the war to avoid capture and possible prosecution for war crimes.

Details over dienen mufti zijn te vinden op
http://www.tellthechildrenthetruth.c...AlHusseini.htm

[bruut geweld]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Leonardo

wat heeft dat betoog nu te maken de binnenlandse politiek??
In al uw geweld vergeten dat er een forum 'buitenlandse (internationale) politiek' bestaat?



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nee, maar als ze hier ook een topic over "scrollen" en toestanden beginnen openen , kan dit ook he.

Meer je hebt gelijk , hoor , zit beter bij internationaal....

[Sinistra]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door H. Guderian

Oei! Er zullen er hier een aantal pisnijdig worden!

Neonazi's en linkse marginalen maken mij absoluut niet pisnijdig. Die werken eerder op men lachspieren.

[bruut geweld]

[quote="tabufferkwa"]

Rabbi Chaim Michael Dov Weissmandl (1903-1957) became famous for his efforts to the save the Jews of Slovakia from extermination at Nazi hands. In some books his name is spelled 'Weissmandel'.
Weissmandl was born in Hungary but soon moved to the region which today is Slovakia. In 1931 he moved to Nitra to study under Rabbi Samuel David Ungar, whose daughter he married. During the period of WWII, Weissmandl was an unofficial leader of the Working Group of Bratislava (see the next section). In 1944, Weissmandl and his family were put on a train headed for Auschwitz, but he managed to escape from the train and hid in a secret bunker in suburban Bratislava. In the final days of the war he was evacuated by a transport organized by Rudolf Kastner with German permission. Later he moved to the United States, where he established the Nitra Yeshiva at Mount Kisco, New York.
The Working Group
When the Nazis, aided by members of the puppet Slovak government, began its moves against the Slovakian Jews in 1942, a group of Jews calling themselves the Working Group began a campaign of opposition. Their main activity was to pay large bribes to German and Slovak officials. The transportation of Jews was in fact halted for a long time after they began to bribe the Nazi official Dieter Wisleceny. However, some historians, notably Yehuda Bauer, believe that the transportation was delayed for other reasons and that the bribes had little actual effect. The Working Group was also responsible for the ambitious but ill-fated Europa Plan which would have seen large numbers of European Jews "bought" from their Nazi captors.
Controversies
Since the business of the Working Group required a continuous supply of large sums of money, they turned to the international Jewish organizations for help, via their representatives in Switzerland. Here lies the root of a bitter and continuing debate. Weissmandl claimed that too little money was provided too late and that this was due to the indifference of those he asked. Specifically, he accused the Zionist organizations of refusing to assist in saving Jews unless they were to go to Palestine (a condition the Nazis were unwilling to accept). [b]Weissmandl supported his allegations by quoting letters from memory, but the original letters have never been found and mainstream historians such as Bauer doubt the accuracy of his memory. Weissmandl's own summary of the charges is his Ten Questions to the Zionists, while the most learned rebuttal is in the book of Bauer cited below.

interessant om weten...alleen de brieven zijn niet gevonden , maar er wordt grif toegegeven dat de deportaties dankzij geld een tijdlang ophielden...
een leugenaar kan je hem dus niet noemen !

[tabufferkwa]

[quote="bruut geweld"]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door tabufferkwa

interessant om weten...alleen de brieven zijn niet gevonden , maar er wordt grif toegegeven dat de deportaties dankzij geld een tijdlang ophielden...
een leugenaar kan je hem dus niet noemen !

wel dat belangrijke historici niets van dat verhaal over Hongarije geloven!
Staat er toch duidelijk in dat de Mufti het tegengewerkt heeft en dan nog nooit over Wallenberg in Hongarije gehoord? Die is er ook niet in geslaagd om alles tegen te houden want Mufti was beste vriendje van de Dolf

Rabbi Chaim Michael Dov Weissmandl (1903-1957) became famous for his efforts to the save the Jews of Slovakia from extermination at Nazi hands. In some books his name is spelled 'Weissmandel'.
Weissmandl was born in Hungary but soon moved to the region which today is Slovakia. In 1931 he moved to Nitra to study under Rabbi Samuel David Ungar, whose daughter he married. During the period of WWII, Weissmandl was an unofficial leader of the Working Group of Bratislava (see the next section). In 1944, Weissmandl and his family were put on a train headed for Auschwitz, but he managed to escape from the train and hid in a secret bunker in suburban Bratislava. In the final days of the war he was evacuated by a transport organized by Rudolf Kastner with German permission. Later he moved to the United States, where he established the Nitra Yeshiva at Mount Kisco, New York.
The Working Group
When the Nazis, aided by members of the puppet Slovak government, began its moves against the Slovakian Jews in 1942, a group of Jews calling themselves the Working Group began a campaign of opposition. Their main activity was to pay large bribes to German and Slovak officials. The transportation of Jews was in fact halted for a long time after they began to bribe the Nazi official Dieter Wisleceny. However, some historians, notably Yehuda Bauer, believe that the transportation was delayed for other reasons and that the bribes had little actual effect. The Working Group was also responsible for the ambitious but ill-fated Europa Plan which would have seen large numbers of European Jews "bought" from their Nazi captors.
Controversies
Since the business of the Working Group required a continuous supply of large sums of money, they turned to the international Jewish organizations for help, via their representatives in Switzerland. Here lies the root of a bitter and continuing debate. Weissmandl claimed that too little money was provided too late and that this was due to the indifference of those he asked. Specifically, he accused the Zionist organizations of refusing to assist in saving Jews unless they were to go to Palestine (a condition the Nazis were unwilling to accept). Weissmandl supported his allegations by quoting letters from memory, but the original letters have never been found and mainstream historians such as Bauer doubt the accuracy of his memory. Weissmandl's own summary of the charges is his Ten Questions to the Zionists, while the most learned rebuttal is in the book of Bauer cited below.

en te combineren met:

However, these heinous crimes, for which the Mufti bears direct responsibility, had only a limited impact on the overall destruction of European Jewry when compared with his nefarious wartime campaign to prevent Jewish emigration from Europe to Palestine. Invoking the personal support of such prominent Nazis as Himmler and Eichmann, the Mufti's relentless hectoring of German, Rumanian, and Hungarian government officials caused the cancellation of an estimated 480,000 exit visas which had been granted to Jews (80,000 from Rumania, and 400,000 from Hungary). As a result, these hapless individuals were deported to Polish concentration camps. A United Nations Assembly document presented in 1947 which contained the Mufti's June 28, 1943 letter to the Hungarian Foreign Minister requesting the deportation of Hungarian Jews to Poland, includes this stark, telling annotation: "As a Sequel to This Request 400,000 Jews Were Subsequently Killed". The Mufti escaped to the Middle East after the war to avoid capture and possible prosecution for war crimes.

Details over dienen mufti zijn te vinden op
http://www.tellthechildrenthetruth.c...AlHusseini.htm

[bruut geweld]

dat de mufti het best kon vinden met dolfke is een feit.
Dat die niet wou dat er zoveel joden naar palestina kwamen, kan ik best inkomen... maar als ze naar andere plaatsen gingen , wat zou hij zich daar van aantrekken ???
en er staat "some" historians ... meer niet.

7.
IS IT TRUE that during the height of the killings in the war, 270 Members of the British Parliament proposed to evacuate 500,000 Jews from Europe, and resettle them in British colonies, as a part of diplomatic negotiations with Germany.

8.
IS IT TRUE that this offer was rejected by the Zionist leaders with the observation "Only to Palestine!"

9.
IS IT TRUE that the British government granted visas to 300 rabbis and their families to the Colony of Mauritius, with passage for the evacuees through Turkey. The "Jewish Agency" leaders sabotaged this plan with the observation that the plan was disloyal to Palestine, and the 300 rabbis and their families should be gassed.

10.
IS IT TRUE that during the course of the negotiations mentioned above, Chaim Weitzman, the first "Jewish statesman" stated: "The most valuable part of the Jewish nation is already in Palestine, and those Jews living outside Palestine are not too important". Weitzman's cohort, Greenbaum, amplified this statement with the observation "One cow in Palestine is worth more than all the Jews in Europe".

kan tellen....

[tabufferkwa]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door bruut geweld

dat de mufti het best kon vinden met dolfke is een feit.
Dat die niet wou dat er zoveel joden naar palestina kwamen, kan ik best inkomen... maar als ze naar andere plaatsen gingen , wat zou hij zich daar van aantrekken ???
en er staat "some" historians ... meer niet.

7.
IS IT TRUE that during the height of the killings in the war, 270 Members of the British Parliament proposed to evacuate 500,000 Jews from Europe, and resettle them in British colonies, as a part of diplomatic negotiations with Germany.

8.
IS IT TRUE that this offer was rejected by the Zionist leaders with the observation "Only to Palestine!"

9.
IS IT TRUE that the British government granted visas to 300 rabbis and their families to the Colony of Mauritius, with passage for the evacuees through Turkey. The "Jewish Agency" leaders sabotaged this plan with the observation that the plan was disloyal to Palestine, and the 300 rabbis and their families should be gassed.

10.
IS IT TRUE that during the course of the negotiations mentioned above, Chaim Weitzman, the first "Jewish statesman" stated: "The most valuable part of the Jewish nation is already in Palestine, and those Jews living outside Palestine are not too important". Weitzman's cohort, Greenbaum, amplified this statement with the observation "One cow in Palestine is worth more than all the Jews in Europe".

kan tellen....

vooral dat "Weissmandl supported his allegations by quoting letters from memory" dat blijkbaar niet zo goed was op dat moment.... vooral dat hij zelf opgepikt werd en onderdook...

en voor de rest stelt hij maar vragen en vragen staat vrij zei mijn grootmoeder altijd
Er zijn er zelf die vragen "IS IT TRUE the holocaust did never happen" en het antwoord is dan voorzeker hetzelfde als op zijn vragen: "NO , the Holocaust did happen"

[bruut geweld]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door tabufferkwa

vooral dat "Weissmandl supported his allegations by quoting letters from memory" dat blijkbaar niet zo goed was op dat moment.... vooral dat hij zelf opgepikt werd en onderdook...

en voor de rest stelt hij maar vragen en vragen staat vrij zei mijn grootmoeder altijd
Er zijn er zelf die vragen "IS IT TRUE the holocaust did never happen" en het antwoord is dan voorzeker hetzelfde als op zijn vragen: "NO , the Holocaust did happen"

zijn het ook joodse rabbi's die zelf ternauwerdood aan de gaskamer ontsnapt zijn die dat vragen ? 8)
je kan zijn stellingen NIET ontkrachten... waarom zou hij als jood zijnde leugens vertellen ...geen enkele reden toe. 8)

[tabufferkwa]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door bruut geweld

zijn het ook joodse rabbi's die zelf ternauwerdood aan de gaskamer ontsnapt zijn die dat vragen ? 8)
je kan zijn stellingen NIET ontkrachten... waarom zou hij als jood zijnde leugens vertellen ...geen enkele reden toe. 8)

Het zijn geen stellingen, het zijn vragen... en de rest van zijn "suggestieve" vragen is al ontkracht, waarom zouden die vragen dan meer waard zijn dan de andere?
Geeft het jou zo'n probleem dat een Rabbi dergelijke vragens stelt. Ik geloof zelf dat de talmoed vol staat met vragen en elke keer komt er een ander antwoord....dat houdt ze bezig zo tussen een paar messteken in van degenen die zich geen vragen stellen hé