De grote 9/11 topic

[Svennies]

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Die Falcons hadden er op tijd kunnen zijn, is dat wat u wilt zeggen?

niets nieuws dus

Eigenlijk niet volgens uw standpunt aangezien de fighters niet wisten waarheen ze moesten vliegen...

Maar die trage hercules blijkbaar wel...

Het scheen die dag dat hij de enige is geweest die A:wist waar hij naartoe moest,en B:de enige die uit zijn kist alles heeft gehaald wat erin zat..

[Micele]

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http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.p...xt=va&aid=6134 ...

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Concluding Remarks

9/11 and the threat of a second major attack on America are ostensibly part of the building block of the US National Security doctrine.

While, the threat of an impending 9/11 type attack by "Islamic terrorists" is a fabrication, extensive media propaganda, supported by covert intelligence operations, has ensured that the "Global War on Terrorism" or GWOT is widely accepted both by the supporters and opponents of the Bush administration.

Visibly based on an outright lie, GWOT has nonetheless gained in legitimacy among America's European partners and allies, which have adopted their own ("copy and paste") anti-terrorist emergency procedures.

Despite mountains of evidence, the 9/11 attacks continue to be upheld by the US and its NATO allies as a bona fide act of war by a foreign power. Since 911, the GWOT is supported by the governments of more than 90 countries. (President George W. Bush, CENTCOM Coalition Conference, May 1, 2007)

Ironically, the Global War on Terrorism is also endorsed by several prominent and authoritative "progressive" intellectuals, who condemn US foreign policy and the Middle East war, while upholding the legitimacy of America's campaign against "Islamic terrorism."

An important segment of the US antiwar movement has a similar stance. While calling for the withdrawal of US troops from Iraq, it denies the existence of a national resistance movement to the US led occupation: "We are against the US led war in Iraq, but we support the war on terrorism." Not surprisingly, Bush's "Catastrophic Emergency" Directive (NSPD 51) does not seem to have raised much concern within the US Antiwar movement.

Since 9/11, numerous lead stories and Op Eds outlining the nature of the "Global War on Terrorism" have been fed profusely into the news chain. A worldwide Al Qaeda legend has emerged.

Repeated ad nauseam on a daily basis, the GWOT has also become part of a shaky bipartisan political consensus. Despite the blatant contradictions and the political lies, in particular in relation to 9/11 and the possibility of a second large scale terrorist attack, the GWOT is nonetheless accepted by an increasingly skeptical US public.

Behind this diabolical "catastrophic emergency" scenario, which ultimately hinges on the powers of media disinformation and deceit, is a profit driven war.

The spiraling multibillion dollar "defense" budget, which according to independent estimates has reached the trillion dollar mark (more than double the official figures), is barely acknowledged, nor is the privatization of war itself.

The US military industrial complex which produces the numerous "humanitarian weapons" including the mini-nukes and bunker buster bombs used to go after the terrorists, would be the direct beneficiary of a war on Iran, together with Wall Street and the Anglo-American oil giants, which vie to appropriate and privatize the region's extensive oil and gas reserves.

This war is not led by the military but by the civilian corporate interests which lie behind the Bush administration. The military takes orders from civilians acting on behalf of those dominant economic interests.

The Wall Street financial establishment, the military-industrial complex, led by Lockheed Martin, the big five weapons and aerospace defense contractors, the Texas oil giants and energy conglomerates, the construction and engineering and public utility companies not to mention the biotechnology conglomerates, are indelibly behind this militarization of America.

In turn, the Worldwide demonization of Islam is part of this profit driven war. Three quarters of the World's oil reserves lie in Muslim lands. (World Oil 2004, see also Michel Chossudovsky, The Demonization of Muslims and the Battle for Oil, Global Research, January 2007 ).

Vilification of the enemies of America, portrayed as fanatic "Islamic terrorists", is part of the Battle for Oil. If the oil were in countries occupied predominantly by Buddhists or Hindus, one would expect that Bush's entire National Security agenda, including the recent "Catastrophic Emergency" Directive NSP 51 would be directed against Buddhists and Hindus.

How to reverse the tide?

The threat of a Second Al Qaeda "Attack on America" is being used profusely by the Bush administration to galvanize public opinion in support of a global military agenda.

Known and documented, the "Islamic terror network" is a creation of the US intelligence apparatus. The "war on terrorism" is bogus. The 911 narrative as conveyed by the 911 Commission report is fabricated.

The Bush administration is involved in acts of cover-up and complicity at the highest levels of government.

Revealing the lies behind 911 would serve to undermine the legitimacy of the "global war on terrorism" which constitutes the main justification for waging war in the Middle East.

Without 911, the war criminals in high office do not have a leg to stand on. Their entire National Security construct collapses like a deck of cards.


Related Article: The Use of the Armed Forces in America Under a National Emergency, by Michel Chossudovsky

Michel Chossudovsky is the author of the international best America’s "War on Terrorism" Second Edition, Global Research, 2005. He is Professor of Economics at the University of Ottawa and Director of the Center for Research on Globalization.

[atmosphere]

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Eigenlijk niet volgens uw standpunt aangezien de fighters niet wisten waarheen ze moesten vliegen...

Maar die trage hercules blijkbaar wel...

Ja , en dat betekend dat ....??

[Svennies]

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Ja , en dat betekend dat ....??

Dat nadenken hélemaal niet verboden is....

[Micele]

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Ja , en dat betekend dat ....??

Amai

[Svennies]

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Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door atmosphere
Ja , en dat betekend dat ....??

Amai

De traagstse was uiteindelijk zowat de snelste... én daarbij de directe getuige van de pentagoncrash én de meest nabije van de shanskvillecrash...

En meneer vraagt nog "ja en dat betekend"....
Man,man,man...

[Johnny Blaze]

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The suspicion is that inside information about the attack was used to send financial transaction commands and authorizations in the belief that amid all the chaos the criminals would have, at the very least, a good head start,'' said Convar director Peter Henschel.

"Of course it is also possible that there were perfectly legitimate reasons for the unusual rise in business volume,'' he told Reuters in an interview.

http://911blogger.com/news/2008-06-2...overies-convar

...It could turn out that Americans went on an absolute shopping binge on that Tuesday morning. But at this point there are many transactions that cannot be accounted for. Not only the volume but the size of the transactions was far higher than usual for a day like that. There is a suspicion that these were possibly planned to take advantage of the chaos.”

volledig quoten als je iemand quote he.

hier is het ganse artikel:

GERMAN FIRM PROBES LAST-MINUTE WORLD TRADE CENTER TRANSACTIONS

by Erik Kirschbaum, Reuters News Agency

December 19, 2001

German computer experts are trying to find the truth behind an unexplained surge in financial transactions made just before two hijacked planes crashed into New York’s World Trade Center on September 11. And they’re finding the evidence inside the ruins of the Twin Towers themselves.

There was a sharp rise in credit card transactions moving through some computer systems at the WTC shortly before the planes hit the twin towers. This could be a criminal enterprise-in which case, did they get advance warning? Or was it only a coincidence that more than $100 million was rushed through the computers as the disaster unfolded?

The German-based firm Convar, a world leader in retrieving data, is trying to answer those questions while they help credit card companies, telecommunications firms and accountants in New York recover their records from computer hard drives that have been partially damaged by fire, water or fine dust.

They are using a pioneering laser scanning technology to find data on damaged computer hard drives and main frames found in the rubble of the World Trade Center and other nearby collapsed buildings. So far, they have recovered information from 32 computers that support suspicions that some of the 911 transactions were illegal.

“The suspicion is that inside information about the attack was used to send financial transaction commands and authorizations in the belief that amid all the chaos the criminals would have, at the very least, a good head start,” says Convar director Peter Henschel. “Of course it is also possible that there were perfectly legitimate reasons for the unusual rise in business volume. It could turn out that Americans went on an absolute shopping binge on that Tuesday morning. But at this point there are many transactions that cannot be accounted for. Not only the volume but the size of the transactions was far higher than usual for a day like that. There is a suspicion that these were possibly planned to take advantage of the chaos.”

There are several data retrieval companies in the United States and Europe, but Convar is doing most of the World Trade Center work because of its laser scanning technology. Convar developed a laser scanner two years ago that makes it possible to retrieve data from badly damaged computers.

Inside the Convar building in Germany, many of the doors have code-operated door locks for security reasons. In the center of the facility is a large dust-free “clean room” where the damaged computer drives are coaxed back to life. The raw material they retrieve is sent immediately by satellite or courier back to New York.

Companies pay between $20,000 and $30,000 for each computer recovered. The high recovery costs are one reason why only a limited number of hard drives are being examined. “We have been quite surprised that so many of the hard drives were in good enough shape to retrieve the data,” Henschel says. “The contamination rate is high. The fine dust that was everywhere in the area got pressed under high pressure into the drives. But we’ve still been able to retrieve 100% of the data on most of the drives we’ve received.”

Richard Wagner, a data retrieval expert at the company, says illegal transfers of more than $100 million might have been made immediately before and during the disaster. “There is a suspicion that some people had advance knowledge of the approximate time of the plane crashes in order to move out amounts exceeding $100 million,” he says. “They thought that the records of their transactions could not be traced after the main frames were destroyed.”

Henschel says, “We’re helping them find out what happened to the computers on September 11 as quickly as possible. I’m sure that one day they will know what happened to the money.”

Misschien ook eens heel goed luisteren naar het filmpje, vanaf 30 seconden ongeveer.

[zeddie]

Ontrack/Convar was acquired by Kroll Inc. in 2002. And Kroll Inc. was responsible for WTC security from 1993 until 9/11. Kroll was connected to the Blackstone Group and connected to Larry Silverstein.

One reason might be that Convars department in England, Ontrack had Kroll as one of their investors, a subsidiary of risk consulting company Kroll O'Gara (former Kroll Associates, Inc), who is responsible for the security of all US-presidents since 1945. One of Krolls former employees was Jerome Hauer. In June 2002 Kroll Inc. acquired Ontrack and formed a new wholly-owned subsidiary of Kroll named Kroll Ontrack. The data of the Twin Tower computers might be classified...

GreetzZ

[Dixie]

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Misschien ook eens heel goed luisteren naar het filmpje, vanaf 30 seconden ongeveer.

nogmaals het filmpje maakt geen indruk en is geen bewijs...

[Johnny Blaze]

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Ontrack/Convar was acquired by Kroll Inc. in 2002. And Kroll Inc. was responsible for WTC security from 1993 until 9/11. Kroll was connected to the Blackstone Group and connected to Larry Silverstein.

One reason might be that Convars department in England, Ontrack had Kroll as one of their investors, a subsidiary of risk consulting company Kroll O'Gara (former Kroll Associates, Inc), who is responsible for the security of all US-presidents since 1945. One of Krolls former employees was Jerome Hauer. In June 2002 Kroll Inc. acquired Ontrack and formed a new wholly-owned subsidiary of Kroll named Kroll Ontrack. The data of the Twin Tower computers might be classified...

GreetzZ

heavy

[Johnny Blaze]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Dixie

nogmaals het filmpje maakt geen indruk en is geen bewijs...

Waarom? Omdat je daar unedited een woordvoerder van Convar hoort en geen geëdit verhaal waar de helft van de relevante info weggelaten is?

[D'ARTOIS]

Met de brand van de Reichstag is de Twintower de grootste hoax uit de (recente) wereldgeschiedenis.
Te veel conflicterend materiaal om er anders over te denken.
Bush en zijn bende topcriminelen hebben de toon gezet voor een verdergaand complot om in ieder geval de laatste energiebronnen te beheren die buiten de Russische invloedsfeer liggen.
Iran en Venezuela zijn ook in de prcture om bij gebleken geschiktheid te worden aangevallen. Het is alleen een kwestie van tijd.

Je mag feitelijk wel stellen dat het jammer is dat de koude oorlog voorbij is. Het hield de wereld in evenwicht en de Yanken waren duidelijk minder brutaal.
Hoe dit verhaal verder gaat aflopen zal pas over een jaar of tien uit de verf komen.

[atmosphere]

Wat er verder allemaal omheen is gebeurd doet niets af aan het feit dat de Twin towers door de plane impacts en de branden zijn ingestort.

Daarover is grote overeenstemming in de wetenschappelijke wereld. Dat er in de VS een klein aantal 'wetenschappers' bestaat dat daar anders over denkt veranderd daar niets aan.

De snelheid van de toestellen was erg hoog en dus goed voor veel impact energie, en onbeschermde staalconstructies kunnen nu eenmaal niet tegen brand
onder hoge belasting. + De door de zwaartekracht vrijgekomen hoeveelheid energie van de instorting was zo groot dat hiermee alle verschijnselen te verklaren zijn. 1/4 deel van de atoombom op hiroshima !! was de hoeveelheid energie ongeveer (eenvoudig te berekenen)

[Dixie]

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Waarom? Omdat je daar unedited een woordvoerder van Convar hoort en geen geëdit verhaal waar de helft van de relevante info weggelaten is?

ga dan naar de rechtbank met dit bewijs

[Dixie]

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Hoe dit verhaal verder gaat aflopen zal pas over een jaar of tien uit de verf komen.

en zal helemaal niets te maken hebben met je geplaatste nonsens

[parcifal]

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Waarom? Omdat je daar unedited een woordvoerder van Convar hoort en geen geëdit verhaal waar de helft van de relevante info weggelaten is?

Tja, ik hoor veronderstellingen maar niet veel bewijzen.

Er zit niet veel vlees aan dit bot.
T'zijn magere honden die daarover vechten.

[D'ARTOIS]

.......En Madoff heeft ook nooit bestaan ..........

[eti1777]

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Tja, ik hoor veronderstellingen maar niet veel bewijzen.

Er zit niet veel vlees aan dit bot.
T'zijn magere honden die daarover vechten.

volledig mee eens!!

Oei, ...

over welke zijde heb jij het hier?

[Dixie]

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Tja, ik hoor veronderstellingen maar niet veel bewijzen.

Er zit niet veel vlees aan dit bot.
T'zijn magere honden die daarover vechten.

en veronderstellen kunnen ze heel goed maar iets bewijzen is tot op heden nog niet gelukt

[Micele]

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volledig mee eens!!

Oei, ...

over welke zijde heb jij het hier?