De grote 9/11 topic

[Helias]

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Kijk dat is er ook zo één, die 50 % die in een inside job zou geloven .

Waarschijnlijk is het 50 % die denkt dat de waarheid over 9/11 niet boven tafel is gekomen, en dat is iets heel anders als in een inside job geloven!

Kortom , mensen die twijfelen aan de officiële versie zijn nog geen complot aanhangers.

Hoezo?

Waarom zou de officiële versie vervalst zijn, tenzij als deel van een complot?

[DeProf_eet]

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Kijk dat is er ook zo één, die 50 % die in een inside job zou geloven .
Waarschijnlijk is het 50 % die denkt dat de waarheid over 9/11 niet boven tafel is gekomen, en dat is iets heel anders als in een inside job geloven!
Kortom , mensen die twijfelen aan de officiële versie zijn nog geen complot aanhangers.

Verklaar me dan eens waarom men niet wil dat de waarheid boven water komt ? Wie kan daar belang bij hebben denkt ge ? Zoals Helias zegt trouwens. Ik vind dat toch heel dicht aanleunen aan medeplichtigheid en dan zijn we bij een inside job. Ik bedoel dat zelfs het "laten gebeuren", in de veronderstelling dat men op de hoogte was, voor mij evengoed de term inside job mag tragen. Het is maar hoe ge het wilt noemen.

[Dixie]

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Nee, ge snapt het weer niet.
Bewijzen die jou overtuigen bestaan niet. Dat wil nog niet zeggen dat er geen bewijzen zijn van een inside job.

tuurlijk ben ik te overtuigen doch niet zonder BEWIJZEN nogal logisch niet?
ik snap het wel hoor je hebt geen sikkepit aan bewijzen je lult maar wat en gelooft nog in sprookjes

[Dixie]

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Dat is uw persoonlijke rechtvaardiging voor die invasie, niet de rechtvaardiging die de Amerikanen in 2003 gaven.

vertel geen onzin, meer woorden maak ik er niet meer aan vuil in andere draad heb ik een linkje gegeven...

[Dixie]

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Wat zit een mens en anderen hier in feite hun tijd te verliezen aan zo'n geindoctrineerde ongelovige Thomas met een Israelitische vlag als avatar.

het is nochtans heel simpel lever de BEWIJZEN of ga af als een gieter

[Dixie]

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Verklaar me dan eens waarom men niet wil dat de waarheid boven water komt ?

de waarheid is al lang boven water nu moet je hem nog enkel accepteren!

[Dixie]

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Ik vind dat toch heel dicht aanleunen aan medeplichtigheid en dan zijn we bij een inside job. Ik bedoel dat zelfs het "laten gebeuren", in de veronderstelling dat men op de hoogte was, voor mij evengoed de term inside job mag tragen. Het is maar hoe ge het wilt noemen.

en nu MET BEWIJZEN HIERVOOR aub!

[DeProf_eet]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Dixie

tuurlijk ben ik te overtuigen doch niet zonder BEWIJZEN nogal logisch niet?
ik snap het wel hoor je hebt geen sikkepit aan bewijzen je lult maar wat en gelooft nog in sprookjes

Maak dat Uzelf maar wijs dat ge te overtuigen bent.

Ik geloof dat nog minder dan het eerste het beste mirakel.

Mensen met een Israel vlag (die het dus nodig vinden om dat aan de klok te hangen) die zie ik nog niet direct geloven dat Israel mee in het komplot zat. Die ontkennen dat tot in de kist.

[Helias]

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Verklaar me dan eens waarom men niet wil dat de waarheid boven water komt ? Wie kan daar belang bij hebben denkt ge ? Zoals Helias zegt trouwens. Ik vind dat toch heel dicht aanleunen aan medeplichtigheid en dan zijn we bij een inside job. Ik bedoel dat zelfs het "laten gebeuren", in de veronderstelling dat men op de hoogte was, voor mij evengoed de term inside job mag tragen. Het is maar hoe ge het wilt noemen.

Dezelfde redenering om tot het tegenovergestelde resultaat te komen. Wat men "de officiele versie" noemt is ook gewoon de waarheid. Ik weet niet waarom sommigen het daar zo moelijk mee hebben.

Sommigen menen (onterecht) dat in de "officiele versie" gaten zitten. Maar daarmee is deze nog steeds 100.000 keer geloofwaardiger dan dan om het even welke complotheorie die het ontbreekt aan zelfs maar een begin van bewijs en wiens verhaal geen gaten bevat maar gewoon één groot gat is.

[atmosphere]

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Hoezo?

Waarom zou de officiële versie vervalst zijn, tenzij als deel van een complot?

Omdat er in de VS bijvoorbeeld vele concurerende overheidsdiensten zijn die ieder de verantwoordelijkheid op de ander willen afschuiven.

[Micele]

http://911research.wtc7.net/post911/...on/report.html

The 9/11 Report

The 9/11 Commission Report: An Elaborate Fiction


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On July 22, 2004, the "National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States" , also known as the "9/11 Commission," published its final Report, the "9/11 Commission Report". The Report became a best-seller and was hailed in the corporate media as the definitive report on the attacks. However, the Report is more accurately characterized as the definitive narrative of the official myth of 9/11. As David Ray Griffin points out in his scholarly book, The 9/11 Commission Report: Omissions and Distortions, the Report systematically excludes almost every fact that doesn't support the official story. 1

Omissions and Distortions

Most of what we document on this website has been omitted from the Commission Report, particularly the contents of the analysis section. Indeed, the omissions are so numerous they could fill a book, and do -- David Griffin's 339-page Omissions and Distortions. Here we list only some of the more egregious omissions, falsehoods, and contradictions in the Report. In the following we use 'Report' to refer to the entire Report including the Notes section.

Omissions

The Report fails to acknowledge that no steel-framed high-rise building has ever collapsed due to fires.
The Report fails to mention the total collapse of 47-story steel-framed skyscraper Building 7 at 5:20 on the day of the attack.
The Report contains no mention of the interview in which the owner of Building 7 states that he and the Fire Department decided to "pull" Building 7 -- an apparent admission of a conspiracy to destroy the building and its contents.
The Report fails to mention the rapid removal and recycling of the structural steel from the collapsed World Trade Center buildings, even to make excuses for it.
The Report makes no mention of a statement by then-Mayor Rudolph Giuliani to Peter Jennings indicating he had foreknowledge of the collapses: "We were operating out of there when we were told that the World Trade Center was gonna collapse, and it did collapse before we could get out of the building."
The Report contains no mentions of eyewitness accounts of explosions preceding the collapse of South Towers.
The Report fails to mention that George W. Bush's brother, Marvin Bush, and his cousin, Wirt Walker III, were principals in the company that had the contract to provide security for the World Trade Center, Stratesec, nor does it mention the company.
The Report makes no mention of the fact that a new lessor took control of the World Trade Center complex just six weeks before the attack, obtained an insurance policy covering terrorist attacks, and successfully sued the insurance companies to obtain twice the multi-billion-dollar value of the policy.
The Report repeats the list of 19 suspects identified by the FBI within days of the attack, while failing to mention that six of them reported themselves alive after the attack.
The Report fails to mention any of the reports of behavior by the alleged hijackers before the attack that belie the official story that they were devout Muslims on a suicide mission for Allah.
The Report fails to mention that the published passenger lists contained no Arab names -- a fact publicized by skeptics of the official story.
The Report fails to ask why the plane that crashed into the Pentagon was not stopped by anti-aircraft missile batteries that presumably ring the building.
The Report fails to mention that no credible footage of the Pentagon attack has been made public, despite public knowledge that the FBI seized footage of the attack from nearby businesses.
The Report does not ask why the Secret Service did not obtain air cover for the President's motorcade from the Sarasota school to the airport, nor for Air Force One, which took off at about 9:54, until about 11:10.
The Report avoids mentioning several reports that government officials and business leaders received warnings and avoided targets of the attacks, including:
A warning by the FBI advising Attorney General John Ashcroft to avoid flying on commercial airlines.
The report that Pentagon officials suddenly canceled travel plans the evening before the attack.
A warning to San Francisco Mayor Willie Brown to avoid flying.
The grounding of Salman Rushdie by Scotland Yard.
The Report avoids mentioning a warning received by employees of Odigo hours before the attack.
The Report does not mention that letters with weaponized anthrax were sent to the two most powerful senators attempting to slow the passage of the 9/11/01 attack-predicated USA PATRIOT Act.
The Report states that the Commission was "chartered to prepare a full and complete account of the circumstances surrounding the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks, including preparedness for and the immediate response to the attacks," but fails to mention that it makes no attempt to meet its charter.
Falsehoods

The Report's Notes state: "the interior core of the [Twin Towers] was a hollow steel shaft, in which the elevators and stairwells were grouped." In fact, the core structures were composed of bundles of steel columns numbering 47 and having outside dimensions, in most cases, of 36 by 16 inches and 54 by 22 inches.
The Report states that the "South Tower collapsed in ten seconds," when it actually took about 15 seconds. While one might expect that the Commission would overstate rather than understate the collapse time, the fact that the Commission did not even consider a collapse time within one second of the vacuum free-fall time of 9.2 seconds a problem for the official explanation is evidence that the Commission would endorse that explanation no matter what the facts.
Regarding the failure to promptly move George W. Bush from the known location of the Sarasota classroom, the Report states that "No one in the traveling party had any information during this time that other aircraft were hijacked or missing." Yet, according to evidence assembled by David Griffin, the Secret Service has open lines to the FAA, whose top operations people in the northeast corridor thought that as many as 11 planes had been hijacked. 2
The Report states: "The threat of terrorists hijacking commercial airliners within the United States -- and using them as guided missiles -- was not recognized by NORAD before 9/11." (The Report repeats the assertion three times.) Yet media reports, such as the USA Today article entitled "NORAD had drills of jets as weapons" describe pre-9/11 NORAD drills involving hijacked jetliners crashing into the World Trade Center and the Pentagon. 3
The Report states: "The protocols did not contemplate an intercept. They assumed the fighter escort would be discreet, 'vectored to a position five miles directly behind the hijacked aircraft,' where it could perform its mission to monitor the aircraft's flight path." Yet the order referenced by the footnote for this statement (Order 7610.4J: Special Military Operations), states:
7-2-1. FACILITY NOTIFICATION

The FAA hijack coordinator will advise the appropriate center/control tower of the identification of the military unit and location tasked to provide the hijack escort. The center/control tower shall coordinate with the designated NORAD SOCC/ROCC/military unit advising of the hijack aircraft's location, direction of flight, altitude, type aircraft and recommended flight plan to intercept the hijack aircraft. The center/control tower shall file the coordinated flight plan. 4
To address the charge that Saudi nationals were flown out of the country before the post-9/11 flight ban was lifted, the Report states: "we found no evidence that any flights of Saudi nationals, domestic or international, took place before the reopening of national airspace on the morning of September 13, 2001." In fact national airspace was only open to commercial airliners on a case-by-case basis on September 13, 2001. It was not until September 15th that the skies were opened to general aviation (privately owned aircraft). 5 Yet the Lear Jet that flew Saudi nationals from Tampa, FL to Lexington, KY on September 13th was a private plane. 6
Contradictions

The Report notes that Hani Hanjour's pilot application was rejected, and that he was a "terrible pilot," on the one hand, but asserts that he was "operation's most experienced pilot," and piloted Flight 77 through a 330-degree spiral dive maneuver, on the other.
The Report explains that the suicide terrorists chose not to target a nuclear power plant because they "thought a nuclear target would be difficult because the airspace around it was restricted, making reconnaissance flights impossible and increasing the likelihood that any plane would be shot down before impact." (p 245) It fails to apply the same logic to their targeting of the Pentagon, which, being the heart of the US military, is presumably even better defended than a nuclear power plant.
The Report addresses the question of why George W. Bush remained in the publicly known location of the Sarasota school until 9:35 AM -- a half hour after the second Tower strike -- by relating that Bush "told us his instinct was to project calm, not to have the country see an excited reaction at a moment of crisis," (p38) and that the Secret service "told us they were anxious to move the President to a safer location, but did not think it imperative for him to run out the door." (p39) The Report implicitly accepts these explanations as satisfactory, thereby implying that for Bush to have taken any less than a half hour to leave the school would have required him to display an excited reaction and to "run out the door."
This list only touches on some of the more obvious omissions from the Report. Even Griffin's book -- the most thorough critique of the Report to date -- is far from exhaustive. In 2005, Griffin wrote The 9/11 Commission Report: A 571-Page Lie, which provides 115 points on which the Report lies, either explicitly or implicitly.

The 9-11 Research Mirror of the Commission Report

The 9/11 Commission Report is published in its entirety on the 9/11 Commission website. However, the site appears to be designed to make it difficult to analyze the Report. In particular, there is apparently no easy way to search the text of the Report for keywords -- a requirement to quickly discover what is missing -- because of the following design features.

Each of the Report's sections -- which include 13 chapters, appendices, a preface, and notes -- is provided as a separate HTML document. Performing a search thus requires a tedious traversal of each of the score of documents, given that the Report is not provided in the form of an aggregate HTML document.
The complete Report is provided as a PDF document, but is a hefty 7.4 megabytes in size, and some PDF viewers don't have a word search feature.
The Search tool searches the entire site, which includes a large body of hearing transcripts many times the size of the Report itself. There is no obvious way to restrict the search to the Report only.
The website's use of the base HTML tag breaks spiders, making it more difficult for researchers to download the Report's HTML as a whole in order to analyze it.
The Table of Contents pages do not link into the sections within chapters.
Due to these deficiencies in the now-frozen version of the Report published on the Commission's website, we have posted a local mirror of the report with corrections here . The mirror preserves the Report's content while assembling all its parts except the notes into a single HTML document. The notes occupy a second document because of their size. The Table of Contents is consolidated into the main document. Thus, using the mirror, you can search the entire Report by simply browsing two HTML documents.

In addition to these changes to the Report's organization, we have linked phrases in the Report's introduction, such as independent, bipartisan, full and complete account, preparedness, and immediate response to the attacks, to pertinent pages of 9-11 Research.

References

1. The 9/11 Commission Report; Omissions and Distortions, Olive Branch Press, 2004
2. The 9/11 Commission Report ..., Olive Branch Press, 2004, page 46-48
3. NORAD had Drills of Jets as Weapons, USA Today, 4/18/2004 [cached]
4. NORAD had Drills of Jets ..., 4/18/2004
5. Order 7610.4J: Special Military Operations, FindLaw.com, 11/3/98,7/12/01 [cached]
6. Phantom Flight From Florida, The Tampa Tribune, 10/5/01 [cached]

[Micele]

vervolg:

http://www.collective-evolution.com/...t-be-debunked/

Alternative News108

24 Hard Facts About 9/11 That Cannot Be Debunked

January 18, 2013 by Joe Martino

9/11 has been one of the biggest events in recent history that sparked a mass awakening across the world. There has been much debate as to how it happened, who is responsible and why. To this day about 1/3 of americans do not believe the official story. In other areas of the world as much as 90% of the country does not believe the official story.

Here is a list of 24 facts that cannot be debunked about 9/11.

1) Nano Thermite was found in the dust at Ground Zero. Peer reviewed in the Bentham Open Chemical Physics Journal. ‘Niels Harrit’, ‘Thermite Bentham’, “The great thermate debate” Jon Cole, ‘Iron rich spheres’ Steven Jones, ‘Limited Metallurgical Examination (FEMA C-13, Appendix C-6)’. ‘Nano Tubes’

2) 1700+ Engineers and Architects support a real independent 9/11 investigation. Richard Gage, Founder. ‘Explosive Evidence’, ‘Blueprint for Truth’, ‘AE911′, ‘Toronto Hearings’, ‘Kevin Ryan’.

3) The total collapse of WTC 7 in 6.5 seconds at free fall acceleration (NIST admits 2.25 seconds). Larry Silverstein used the term “Pull it”. Steel framed high rise buildings have NEVER totally collapsed from fire or structural damage. Builidng 7 was not hit by a plane. ‘Building 7′, ‘WTC 7′.

4) Dick Cheney was in command of NORAD on 9/11 while running war games. ‘Stand down order’. “Of course the orders still stand, have you heard anything to the contrary?”. Norman Minetta testimony. “Gave order to shootdown Flight 93.”, ‘NORAD Drills’.



5) 6 out of the 10 Commissioners believe the 9/11 Commission report was “Setup to fail” Co-Chairs Hamilton and Kean, “It was a 30 year conspiracy”, “The whitehouse has played cover up”, ‘Max Cleland resigned’, ‘John Farmer’.

6) FBI confiscated 84/85 Videos from the Pentagon. ‘Moussaoui trial’ revealed these videos. Released Pentagon Security Camera (FOIA) does not show a 757 and is clearly Missing a frame. ‘Sheraton Hotel’, “Double tree’, ‘Citgo”.

7) Osama Bin Laden was NOT wanted by the FBI for the 9/11 attacks. “No hard evidence connecting Bin Laden to 9/11.” CIA created, trained and funded “Al Qaeda/Taliban” during the Mujahideen. OBL was a CIA asset named ‘Tim Osman’. OBL Reported dead in Dec 2001 (FOX).

8)100′s of Firefighters and witness testimony to BOMBS/EXPLOSIONS ignored by the 9/11 Commission Report. 9/11 Commission Report bars 503 1st responder eyewitnesses. “Explosions in the lobby and sub levels”, ‘Firefighter explosions’, ‘Barry Jennings’, ‘William Rodriguez’.

9) 100′s of firefighters and witness testimony to MOLTEN METAL ignored by the Commission report. “Like you’re in a foundry”, “NIST’s John Gross denies the existence of Molten Metal”, ‘Swiss Cheese’, “As of 21 days after the attack, the fires were still burning and molten steel was still running.” Leslie Robertson’.

10) ’5 Dancing Israeli’s’ arrested in ‘Mossad Truck Bombs’ on 9/11 that stated “We were there to document the event.” ‘Urban Moving Systems’ front company, ‘Dominic Suter’. “$498,750 Business loan (June 2001)”. “Officer DeCarlo’, ‘Art Students’, ‘Israeli Spying’.

11) On September 10th, 2001. Rumsfeld reported $2.3 TRILLION missing from the Pentagon. ‘Dov Zakheim’ Pentagon Comptroller. Former VP of ‘Systems Planning Corporation’ (Flight Termination System). Signatore of PNAC document.

12) 220+ Senior Military, Intelligence Service, Law Enforcement, and Government Officials question the official story. ’9/11 Whistleblowers’, ‘Patriots for 9/11′. ‘Robert Bowman’, ‘Sibel Edmonds’, ‘Albert Stubblebine’, ‘Wesley Clark’, ‘Mark Dayton’, ‘Alan Sabrosky’, ‘Cyntha McKinney’, ‘Jesse Ventura’, ‘Kurt Sonnenfeld’. “patriotsquestion911.com”

13) Towers were built to withstand a Boeing jet(s). “I designed it for a 707 to hit it”, Leslie Robertson, WTC structural engineer. “Could probably sustain multiple impacts of jetliners”, “like a pencil puncturing screen netting” Frank De Martini, deceased Manager of WTC Construction & Project Management. “As far as a plane knocking a building over, that would not happen.” Charlie Thornton, Structural Engineer.

14) History of American False Flag attacks. ‘USS Liberty’, ‘Gulf of Tonkin’, ‘Operation Northwoods’, ‘OKC Bombing (Murrah Building)’, ’1993 WTC attacks’. ‘Patrick Clawson’. Project for the New American Century (PNAC) needed “a New Pearl Harbor”, “Rebuilding America’s Defenses”. 9/11 Achieved those goals.

15) BBC correspondent Jane Standley reported the collapse of WTC 7 (Soloman Brothers building) 20 minutes before it happened. CNN/FOX/MSNBC also had early reports. ‘BBC wtc 7′, ‘Jane Standley’, Ashleigh Banfield’.

16) “Flight 93″ debris was spread out over many miles. Cheney admits to giving the order to shootdown 93. “shot down the plane over Pennsylvania” Rumsfeld, “nothing that you could distinguish that a plane had crashed there” ‘Chris Konicki. “Not a drop of blood” Coroner Wallace Miller. “there was no plane.” Mayor Ernie Stull.

17) Bush hesitated for 441 days before starting the 911 Commission. ‘Jersey Girls’. ‘Phil Zelikow’ already wrote the outline before the commission began. Steel shipped over seas. Obstruction of justice. JFK and Pearl Harbor commissions were started within 7 days.

18) The 911 commission was given extremely limited funds. $15 million was given to investigate 9/11. (Over $60 Million was spent investigating Clintons’ affairs with Monica).

19) Bush said he watched the first plane crash into the North tower on TV before entering the classroom. “The TV was obviously on.” Was informed about the second impact while reading ‘My Pet Goat’ to the children. Remained for at least 8 more minutes while America was under “attack”.

20) The PATRIOT ACT was written before 9/11. Signed into law October 26th, 2001.

21) Marvin Bush was director of Stratasec (Securacom, ‘KuAm’) which was in charge of security of the WTC, United Airlines and Dulles International Airport. All three were breached on 9/11. ICTS was another company that provided security at the airports. ‘Wirt Walker’, ‘Ezra Harel’, ‘ICTS”, ‘WTC power downs’.

22) “Who killed John O’Neil?”. Former FBI task force agent investigating Al Qaeda/Bin Laden. Transferred by Kroll Corporation to head the security just before 9/11. John O’Neil died in the Towers. ‘Jerome Hauer’ ‘Jules Kroll’.

23) Insider trading based upon foreknowledge. ‘Put Options.’ Never identified insiders made millions. ‘United and American Airlines’ ‘Raytheon.’

24) At least 7 of the 19 listed highjackers are still alive (BBC). No video footage of 19 highjackers or passengers boarding the 4 planes. Pilots of the 4 planes never squawked the highjacking code. ‘Alive highjackers’, ‘ACARS’, ‘Pilots for 9/11 Truth’.

WTC 7 (The Smoking Gun)

http://rememberbuilding7.org/

Building 7 was a 47-story skyscraper and was part of the World Trade Center complex. Built in 1984, it would have been the tallest high-rise in 33 states in the United States. It collapsed at 5:20 pm on September 11, 2001 in 6.5 Seconds at free fall acceleration. It was not hit by an airplane and suffered minimal damage compared to other buildings much closer to the Twin Towers.

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Alvorens te getuigen, leg je de eed af. Hierbij zweer je de gehele waarheid en niets dan de waarheid te zeggen. Kinderen jonger dan 15 jaar leggen geen eed af. Wie na de eedaflegging niet de waarheid spreekt, legt een valse getuigenis af. Dit is een misdrijf waarvoor een vrijheidsstraf kan worden opgelegd.

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Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Dixie

vertel geen onzin, meer woorden maak ik er niet meer aan vuil in andere draad heb ik een linkje gegeven...

Er was geen volkenrechtelijk mandaat voor die invasie en was daarmee in strijd met het internationaal recht. Dus in die zin was het niet gerechtvaardigd. Dat u het persoonlijk een geweldig idee vond doet daar niets aan af.

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Verklaar me dan eens waarom men niet wil dat de waarheid boven water komt ? Wie kan daar belang bij hebben denkt ge ? Zoals Helias zegt trouwens. Ik vind dat toch heel dicht aanleunen aan medeplichtigheid en dan zijn we bij een inside job. Ik bedoel dat zelfs het "laten gebeuren", in de veronderstelling dat men op de hoogte was, voor mij evengoed de term inside job mag tragen. Het is maar hoe ge het wilt noemen.

Wat er niet klopt aan het officiële verhaal betreft de motieven voor die aanslagen.
voormalig hoofd van de CIA Bin Laden Unit speaks out !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBvtFX-HaTM

De complottheorieën en de aanhangers van de US government richten zich beide niet op de werkelijke oorzaak en het werkelijke probleem.

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vervolg:

http://www.collective-evolution.com/...t-be-debunked/

Het barst van de onzin in uw tekst! en men laat natuurlijk heel veel informatie bewust weg. Een totaal oneerlijk betoog.

[Dixie]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door DeProf_eet

Maak dat Uzelf maar wijs dat ge te overtuigen bent.

Ik geloof dat nog minder dan het eerste het beste mirakel

je moet niet over mij beginnen, BEWIJZEN hebben we nodig maak je jezelf nu niet onnodig nog meer belachelijk aub

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door DeProf_eet

Mensen met een Israel vlag (die het dus nodig vinden om dat aan de klok te hangen) die zie ik nog niet direct geloven dat Israel mee in het komplot zat. Die ontkennen dat tot in de kist.

oh het is niet enkel een inside job doch ook al een Israëlisch complot en waar zijn je bewijzen hiervan ?! Het is duidelijk vele troofers zijn gewoon antisemieten...

[Dixie]

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Wat er niet klopt aan het officiële verhaal betreft de motieven voor die aanslagen.

dikke crap!

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Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Dixie

dikke crap!

U vind het verhaal van Michel Schreuer dus dikke crap ??

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Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Micele

vervolg:

http://www.collective-evolution.com/...t-be-debunked/

Ongelofelijke verdraaiing van feiten en quotes van mensen.

Ik pak er even 3 uit :

Punt 5 : Betreffende commissie leden denken helemaal niet dat de US government de aanslagen zelf heeft gepleegd !!! Wat ze wel denken hebben ze
meerdere malen voor de cameras verteld.

punt 9 : NIST heeft helemaal geen onderzoek gadaan naar wat er na de instortingen allemaal plaatsvond in de puinhopen. zij onderzochten alles tot aan de instortingen.
Het gesmolten metaal dat lang na de instortingen werd gevonden is een ander vraagstuk .

punt 13 : hier zie je werkelijk opzettelijk bedrog , ze laten gewoon het belangrijkste van wat Leslie Robertson meerdere malen heeft gezegd gewoon weg. Het gebouw was helemaal niet ontworpen op high speed crashes zoals die op 9/11. Dat heeft hij gezegd.

Ook de rest is oude meuk die al lang weerlegd is.
Allemaal verzinsels van outsiders, mensen die er niet bij waren.

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Zitten er hier nog te discussieren. Het is toch al lang overduidelijk dat 9/11 een volledige inside job was, om het volk te manipuleren.

Nu de storm van het fake terrorisme een beetje gaan liggen is... ik vraag met af wat het volgende is dat ze uit hun mouw gaan schudden...

Carol Rosin (voormalige medewerkster Werner Von Braun) was alleszinds profetisch nog voor 9/11:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaTgOSHbBEI