Bomaanslag in Boston (Massachusetts)

[Buitenwipper]

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Heh, che guevara... hij kan zo goed een bordje met terrorist erop dragen

De vraag wat het plan was van deze revolutionair is prangender.

[Voltian]

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Een goeie manier om aan terroristische aanslagen in Amerika (en elders) te ontsnappen lijkt mij de volgende.... als je hoort of opmerkt dat er drills gebeuren door officiele instanties dan zou ik snel wegkomen!

hmm, gisteren was er in Brussel-zuid nochtans ook een grote "drill"

http://www.standaard.be/artikel/deta...8&word=station

Toch niks ergs gebeurd daar (voor zover wij weten natuurlijk).

Die drill was misschien een false flag, kan ook natuurlijk...

[D'ARTOIS]

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hmm, gisteren was er in Brussel-zuid nochtans ook een grote "drill"

http://www.standaard.be/artikel/deta...8&word=station

Toch niks ergs gebeurd daar (voor zover wij weten natuurlijk).

Die drill was misschien een false flag, kan ook natuurlijk...

Bezopen klucht.

[Voltian]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door D'ARTOIS

Bezopen klucht.

ik weet niet, ik was er niet bij; was het zo'n een klucht dan?

[D'ARTOIS]

Nederland heeft enige ervaring met treinkapingen en treinkapers. Een paar van deze boys wonen in ons dorp op de Veluwe.

Dus dit is echt wel een klucht.

[D'ARTOIS]

Dat er met de Marathon in Boston "iets" aan de hand is mag wel duidelijk zijn.

Bewijsbaar duidelijk is wel het feit dat diverse organisaties elkaar flink hebben tegengewerkt.

[Voltian]

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Nederland heeft enige ervaring met treinkapingen en treinkapers. Een paar van deze boys wonen in ons dorp op de Veluwe.

Dus dit is echt wel een klucht.

ah ok.

False flag dus

[exodus]

FBI Ignores Men With Backpacks At Scene of Boston Bombings

Friday, 19 April 2013 10:07

FBI: 'Other photos will not be deemed credible' = 'My god, don't ask questions about those or we're in deep shit.'



Lies, lies, lies, lies and more lies. Where are you mainstream media?

http://www.prisonplanet.com/fbi-igno...-bombings.html

[plakker]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door exodus

http://www.prisonplanet.com/fbi-igno...-bombings.html

toch verbazend vreemd allemaal

[Bolleke Wol]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door plakker

En omdat het in Afganistan zo is, mag er over een andere plek niet gesproken worden... zucht...
Begin dan een topic over Afganistan en ga daar dan u mening geven.

Zou je je niet beter zorgen maken over de hypocrisie van de media?

[Buitenwipper]

Zo, de zaak is opgelost. Moslims uit Tsjetsjenië kwamen terreurverdachten met geïmproviseerd materiaal 'dronen'.

[Anselmo]

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Zo, de zaak is opgelost. Moslims uit Tsjetsjenië kwamen terreurverdachten met geïmproviseerd materiaal 'dronen'.

Klinkt veelbelovend wat de vader van die Tsjetsjenen verklaart :

De vader van de verdachte broers zei eerder al dat zijn zonen "engeltjes" zijn. Nu komt hij met het verhaal dat alles opgezet spel is. Zijn kinderen werden door de overheid gekozen omdat ze moslim zijn, en er toch iemand beschuldigd moet worden. Tot slot zegt hij dat als ook zijn tweede zoon wordt gedood, "all hell will break loose"

[Buitenwipper]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Anselmo

"all hell will break loose"

Goed zo. Ik popel van ongeduld.


Anderzijds verklaarde een oom:

He described Tamerlan as a “loser.”

“He deserved his. He absolutely deserved his,” Tsarni said. “They do not deserve to live on this earth.”

http://boston.cbslocal.com/2013/04/1...s-hes-shocked/

[D'ARTOIS]

Een hoop gelul van de pers en tv en een mega overkill aan overvette koddebeiers die niet anders doen dan benzine verbranden.

Kortom een waardeloze vertoning die alleen maar aangeeft dat Hollywood niet overdrijft.

GSG9 en SAS hadden dit varkentje in een paar uurtjes gewassen. Deze klojo's zijn al de halve nacht en dag bezig met schreeuwen en niets doen.

[Yucagira]

Over broers

http://www.boston.com/metrodesk/2013...DQO/story.html

Bombing suspects were local, ‘normal’ US immigrants

By Mark Arsenault, Patricia Wen and David Filipov, Globe Staff

Suspects in the Boston Marathon bombing appeared to embody the best of the American immigrant experience: two brothers who came from southern Russia, near war-torn Chechnya, more than five years ago, and assimilated through school and sports into the Greater Boston community and culture.

Tamerlan Tsarnaev, 26, the alleged bomber pictured in a dark hat in FBI videos released Thursday, was a talented boxer with hopes of joining the US Olympic team, people who knew him said. He was reportedly killed overnight in a shootout with police.

His brother, Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, 19, the suspect seen in FBI photos in a white cap, is a student at the University of Massachusetts Dartmouth, the school confirmed. He was an all-star wrestler and a member of the class of 2011 at Cambridge Rindge & Latin School, and won a Cambridge City Scholarship that year. He was on the run Friday morning and the target of an unprecedented manhunt in Greater Boston.

But within the brothers’ ordinariness, there were also subtle signs of alienation.

“I don’t have a single American friend,” Tamerlan said in a photo essay about his love of boxing. “I don’t understand them.”

People who knew the suspects struggled today morning to reconcile the young men they knew, who lived on Norfolk Street in Cambridge, with the acts of terrorism they are accused of committing.

“He was normal,” said Lulu Emmons, who went to Rindge & Latin, the city’s public high school, with Dzhokhar.

“He kind of fit in with everyone. Not really close with anyone, but he was friendly.

“I am just a little shocked. I sat next to this guy. I joked with him. I laughed with him. I had class with him. It is a little crazy,” she said.

Former teacher and school photographer at Rindge, Larry Aaronson, said he knew Dzhokhar.

“If someone were to ask me what the kid was like, I would say he had a heart of gold,” he said. “He was as gracious as possible.”

Aaronson knew Dzhokhar came from near a war zone and they had conversations about this. “All of this is just freaking me out.”

Pamala Rolon, a senior at UMass Dartmouth and a resident assistant at the Pine Dale dorms on campus, said she knew Dzhokhar for the past year and finds it incredible that he could have played any role in the bombs at the Boston marathon.

“He studied. He hung out with me and my friends,” she said in a telephone interview Friday. “I’m in shock.”

Rolon, 22, said the 300 or so students at the dorm were evacuated this morning by school authorities as the campus was shut down.

Rolon said when she returned from class Thursday afternoon, she and her friends watched the television news broadcast showing the images of the suspects, including one that she did think looked faintly like the student she knew on campus.

“We made a joke like – that could be Dzhokhar,” she said. “But then we thought it just couldn’t be him. Dzhokhar ? Never.”

Rolon said the 19-year-old studied marine biology, and was quite studious. He was not seen on campus over the past two weeks, though she didn’t think much about it because everyone was busy with tests and studying, she said.

Rolon said the finds it impossible to believe he was involved in any zealous religious or political cause, or would turn to violence.

“I think he’s Muslim, but not so religious,” she said. “He’s a normal city kid. He never said anything about Russia versus the United States.”

She said Dzhokhar Tsarnaev dressed in sweaters and jeans, fit in easily on campus and spoke English with hardly any accent.

Peter Payack, the assistant wrestling coach at Cambridge Rindge and Latin, said Dzhokhar Tsarnaev wrestled on the team for three years and was captain for two years and a Greater Boston League all-star. Though he graduated from Rindge, he came back to wrestle with the team in February, he said.

“He was a dedicated kid, and all the kids loved him,” Payack said. “We only name captains who are good, but who also gain respect from his fellow wrestlers. He had to be a leader, and he had all those qualities. He was one of my guys.”

Payack said the wrestling team thinks of itself as a family and there was nothing amiss about Dzhokhar, whose name is pronounced JA-har .

“Everybody loved him,” Payack said. “He wasn’t a loner, the complete opposite. … He seemed like one of the most well-adjusted kids on the team. He seemed like he didn’t have any problems. He did his work, came out and became a captain.”

In a high school that prides itself on its diversity, “he got along with all the different groups on the team,” Payack said.

“He never talked about being a Muslim. We’re in Cambridge. We have a completely diverse team. So nobody talked about religion,” Payack said. “He was just one of us.”

“We never saw his mother or father and never saw his brother,” Payack said. “He just came back to wrestle with us in February. I mean, he said, he went to UMass and he was studying some sort of engineering and he came back and wrestled, and he was joking with everyone.

“Never in a million years did [we] expect anything like this,” Payack said. “He never talked about violence or anything. Some of the kids say, ‘I’m going to beat you up or something like that.’ He just did his work and was a good student.”

Payack, who has run the Boston Marathon 24 times and often wears his blue-and-yellow Marathon jacket, said he was particularly saddened that Dzhokar would target the race.

“It was like a bomb going off in my heart this morning because he’s one of our wrestlers. I said ‘That guy looks like my guy.’ ”

Ashraful Rahman, a Rindge senior and friend of Dzhokhar, described the alleged bomber as “just a normal guy, very chillaxed, and very laid back.”

He and Dzhokhar wrestled on the Rindge team together, hung out together at Dana Park in Cambridge and attended the same mosque, the Islamic Society of Boston, in Cambridge.

“We just chilled out man, just average teenagers,” Rahman said. “He never stated that he was against the government or for anarchy or anything.”

Rahman said Dzhokhar mentored him on the wrestling team.

“I looked up to Dzhokhar because he won states his second year. Seeing this, it’s like seeing one of your heroes and finding a flaw in one of them,” he said.

Dzhokhar did not have a girlfriend, he said.

Rahman said the last time he saw Dzhokhar was on Ramadan in 2012, at the Islamic Society. “He said ‘what’s up’ to me,” Rahman said. “He seemed peaceful, actually.”

Essah Chisholm, 17, a senior at Rindge and member of the wrestling team, said the coaches would tell funny stories about how people would mispronounce Dzhokhar name’s.

“He seemed pretty nice, pretty normal person; he was always smiling,” Chisholm said. “Everything is pretty shocking.”

John Allan, owner of Wai Kru Mixed Martial Arts Boston, said the older brother, Tamerlan, was an accomplished amateur boxer, competing in the national Golden Gloves competition.

“He was the best boxer in Boston,” said Allan, who remembers helping in a competition three years ago. “He smoked all the professionals.”

Allan said Tsarnaev was trained by his father, who was also a skilled boxer. And he was always respectful. “They were an incredible family....This was so shocking to me.”

But Tsarnaev hadn’t been to the Wai Kru Mixed Martial Arts center in years, instead going to another nearby boxing gym. Until this month. Allan, who is currently traveling in Thailand, got an e-mail within the past week saying Tsarnaev showed up at the gym acting rude and disrespectful, using other people’s equipment, walking on the mats with his shoes.

“It was a clear indication that something was up,” Allan said, noting that Tsarnaev hadn’t even been to his gym before the incident in years. “He was becoming a complete [expletive].

“It was completely out of place of place for him,” said Allan, who was also contacted by the FBI about Tamerlan.

He also said he thought that the older brother did so well in the Golden Gloves several years ago that he could have qualified for the US Olympic trials, but that he may not have been eligible because of a paperwork problem.

Allan said Tamerlan mainly boxed at the Cambridge-Somerville Boxing Club, which he thought used the YMCA facility in Central Square in Cambridge.

Tamerlan, who boxed at 196 pounds, studied at Bunker Hill Community College and wanted to become an engineer. He attended the school part time for three semesters, from 2006 to 2008, according to the school.

In the photo essay, called “Will Box for Passport,” Tamerlan stops to answer a phone call while walking from his Mercedes to the martial arts center. He has a long wool scarf wrapped fashionably around his neck and gleaming white leather slip-on shoes and is carrying an Oceanfly dufflebag.

He said in the essay that he quit smoking and drinking. “God said no alcohol.” A Muslim, he says, “There are no values any more,” and worries that “people can’t control themselves.”

The family left the Russian republic of Dagestan -- a predominantly Muslim region on the eastern border of Chechnya -- and lived for years in Kazakhstan before coming to the United States as a refugee, according to the photo essay.

The state news agency of Kyrgyzstan said the brothers are ethnic Chechens who lived in the Central Asian country until “roughly 2001,” when they moved to Dagestan, a predominantly Muslim republic in southern Russia that shares a border with Chechnya. A spokesman for School No. 1 in Mkhachkala, the capital of Dagestan, told Russian news agencies that Dzhokhar Tsarnaev was a pupil in the first and second grade.

The Russian social media website VKontakte has a page of a Dzhokhar Tsarnaev who lists himself as a resident of Boston and a member of the class of 2011 at Cambridge Rindge & Latin School.

The VKontakte page says that Dzhokhar studied at School No. 1 from 1999 to 2001 in Mkhachkala. According to the profile, Tsarnayev is a member of the group “Everything About the Chechen Republic.”

The profile lists Dzhokhar’s languages as English, Russian and Chechen, and lists him as a Muslim. The last post was made in 2012. Most of the posts on the site are jokes – one video makes fun of the accented Russian spoken by people from the Caucasus.

One joke is a wry commentary on the status of Russian citizens from the Caucasus. “A Dagestani, a Chechen and an Ingush are riding in a car. Who is driving? The answer: A policeman.”

While the brothers are Chechens, the press secretary of Chechnya’s pro-Moscow government told the official Russian news agency Interfax that Dzhokhar and Tamerlan Tsarnaev have no recent connection with Chechnya.

The US embassy in Bishkek, Kyrgyzstan, said US diplomats in the Central Asian nation were scrambling to learn more about the brothers’ roots.

“We are following this issue very closely,” said Christian Wright, the embassy’s public affairs officer.
Jenn Abelson, Todd Wallack, Meghan E. Irons, Bryan Bender, and Michael Levenson of the Globe staff and correspondent Haven Orecchio-Egresitz contributed. Mark Arsenault can be reached at [email protected]

[pegasus6869]

De eerste dader is reeds gedood.....Nu nog de tweede dader......Opgeruimd staat steeds netter.Proficiat voor de boston politie !!

[Piero]

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De eerste dader is reeds gedood.....Nu nog de tweede dader......Opgeruimd staat steeds netter.Proficiat voor de boston politie !!

De eerste verdachte ...

[manta]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Piero

De eerste verdachte ...

...Die met een hoop explosieven en wapens op kot gaat...

[BonBon]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Anselmo

Klinkt veelbelovend wat de vader van die Tsjetsjenen verklaart :

Die familie gaat compleet binnenste buiten gedraaid worden, in de VS hebben daar geen probleem mee.

[julian]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door D'ARTOIS

Een hoop gelul van de pers en tv en een mega overkill aan overvette koddebeiers die niet anders doen dan benzine verbranden.

Kortom een waardeloze vertoning die alleen maar aangeeft dat Hollywood niet overdrijft.

GSG9 en SAS hadden dit varkentje in een paar uurtjes gewassen. Deze klojo's zijn al de halve nacht en dag bezig met schreeuwen en niets doen.

De gewoonlijke vooroordelen en typisch gelul vanachter de pc.