De 'onrust' in Syrië : in realiteit een oorlog tussen Iran en Al-Qaeda & sponsors

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Zoals ik steeds heb vermeld op dit forum, Huize Saoed en Het Beloofde Land, twee handen op een buik, een Duivelse alliantie.

Israelische strijdkrachten mogen vanaf nu het luchtruim van Huize Saoed gebruiken...
(lees : eindelijk kan U dit via de MSM vernemen, let toch op de misleidende titel van volgend artikel)

The Sunday Times - Two old foes unite against Tehran
17 november 2013 - Convinced that Iran is tricking the world over nuclear weapons, Israel and Saudi Arabia may work together to curb its ambitions




Deze rotzakken werken sinds mensheugenis samen, maar eindelijk vernemen we iets ivm. deze via de MSM.

Ogen wijd open nu... de strontbal begint te rollen, Bibi duwt hem naarstig verder...

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_{Sponsors van het wereldwijde terrorisme}

En hun Amerikaanse slavenstaat :





(Afbeelding genomen uit de Amerikaanse Global Post, uiterst recent artikel, meer)


Waarde medeforummers, de censuur wordt steeds sterker. Zelfs de MSM is er nu onderhevig aan, gezien het feit dat nu ook zij over deze feiten beginnen te berichten.

OGEN WIJD OPEN VANAF NU!

(afbeeldingen genomen uit de Sunday Times en andere)

Een gamechanger is nu binnen handbereik, opgelet!

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Laat er geen twijfel over bestaan (Bandar en zijn bandieten) :

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Terwijl ze ze in het noorden en de Golan oplappen...

Het Beloofde Land schakelt drie Palestijnen uit... wegens associatie met AQ, NO SHIT!!!


http://www.newsdaily.com/world/71931...s-in-west-bank

HEBRON, West Bank (Reuters) - Israeli security officials said their forces killed three Palestinian militants on Tuesday who were part of an al Qaeda-linked network in the West Bank.

The Palestinian Authority, which administers the territory, denied the three had had any relation to al Qaeda and accused Israeli of setting out to kill the men.

An official from Israeli's Shin Bet security agency said it had learned from a number of earlier arrests that the network was planning attacks in the coming days against Israeli targets and against the Western-backed Palestinian Authority.

Two of the men were killed when they opened fire on officers trying to arrest them in the area of the city of Hebron, the official said. A number of explosive devices and two guns were found in their vehicle, the official added.

The Israeli military said a third militant was killed in a gunfight after the initial clash.

Al Qaeda-inspired groups have a small presence in the Hamas-ruled Gaza Strip, but are less common in the occupied West Bank, which is policed by Israeli and Palestinian Authority forces.

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Moest Assad het gedaan hebben zouden we weerom het typisch gejank horen... de bloeddorstige dictator etc...

Ach... niemand wil baardige kinderen en vrouwen met kalashnikovs en bomgordels op zijn grondgebied niet???? Ik hoop van harte dat deze rakkers niet toevallig aan de bakkerij stonden, want zo'n moord terwijl men brood koopt is toch wel volledig onaanvaardbaar.

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Terwijl ze ze in het noorden en de Golan oplappen...

Het Beloofde Land schakelt drie Palestijnen uit... wegens associatie met AQ, NO SHIT!!!

Ze lappen ze op en juichen ze toe hier en wat verderop schieten ze ze neer.

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Sommigen zijn absoluut niet tevreden met de deal met Iran :

The U.S. readiness to talk with Tehran, after decades of mistrust, has angered some people in Israel, who said it was a form of appeasement. But supporters of the deal say it will encourage Iran to be more open about its true nuclear aims, which it says are peaceful.

Israel's parliamentary opposition leader Isaac Herzog said Netanyahu should minimise confrontation with the Obama administration "and restore the intimate dialogue with the leaders of the big powers."

United States, France, Germany, Britain, China and Russia clinched the deal with Iran on Sunday to curb the Iranian nuclear programme in exchange for initial sanctions relief, signalling the start of a game-changing rapprochement that they say will reduce the risk of a wider Middle East war.

Israeli, widely believed to be the Middle East's only nuclear power, has said in the past it does not rule out military action against Iran to stop it getting atomic weapons.

In a possible sign of heightened cooperation with its closest ally, an Israeli security source told Reuters that the heads of the U.S. Federal Bureau of Investigation and the National Security Agency had both recently visited for secret talks. The U.S. embassy in Tel Aviv declined to comment.

Israeli TV channels also reported that the head of the U.S. Air force and a senior U.S. naval officer had also visited Israel during an aerial military exercise that also involved Greece and Italy.

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Israeli, widely believed to be the Middle East's only nuclear power, has said in the past it does not rule out military action against Iran to stop it getting atomic weapons.

Een niet mis te verstane dreigement, en dan zijn er nog die de rol van Israël durven minimaliseren, ze hebben er blijkbaar geen problemen mee om een oorlog te starten met een lokale grootmacht. Op die manier wordt het duidelijk dat ze ook achter de oorlog in Irak zaten, de grootste massamoord van de 21e eeuw.

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Een niet mis te verstane dreigement, en dan zijn er nog die de rol van Israël durven minimaliseren, ze hebben er blijkbaar geen problemen mee om een oorlog te starten met een lokale grootmacht. Op die manier wordt het duidelijk dat ze ook achter de oorlog in Irak zaten, de grootste massamoord van de 21e eeuw.

Huize Saoed heeft sinds het afzetten van Morsi (Egypte) duidelijk gebroken met de half-witte prins moslimbroeder Soetaro en zijn Amerikaanse staten.

Saudische prins Alwaleed bin Talal: Niet Israël, maar Iran is echte bedreiging voor de wereld

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-1...di-prince.html

Prince Alwaleed bin Talal, the Saudi royal who seems to own most everything there is to own -- a chunk of Rupert Murdoch’s News Corp, a piece of Twitter, all of Paris’s George V Hotel, the Savoy in London, and a Boeing 747 for his personal use -- was sitting in the lobby of the Four Seasons Hotel in Chicago the other evening (he and Bill Gates own most of Four Seasons Holdings), offering up the view -- the view of an experienced negotiator from the Middle East -- that U.S. President Barack Obama is outmatched by the Islamic Republic of Iran.

“There’s no confidence in the Obama administration doing the right thing with Iran,” he told me, with a directness that would make Benjamin Netanyahu blush. “We’re really concerned -- Israel, Saudi Arabia, the Middle East countries -- about this.”

It is quite something for a Saudi royal to state baldly that his country is part of a tacit alliance with Israel, but Saudi leaders, like Israel’s leaders, are frantic with worry that an overeager Obama will accede to Iran’s desire to become a threshold state, one whose nuclear program is so advanced that it would only need several weeks to assemble a deliverable weapon. Alwaleed, like Netanyahu, the Israeli prime minister, believes that Iran, in its ongoing negotiations with the world’s major powers, will pocket whatever sanctions relief it gets without committing to ending its nuclear program. “Why are they offering relief?” he asked. “Keep the pressure on. Sanctions are what brought about the negotiations to begin with! Why not keep the pressure up?”

Obama, Alwaleed says, is a man who is in desperate political straits and needs a victory -- any victory -- to right his presidency. “Obama is in so much of a rush to have a deal with Iran,” he said. “He wants anything. He’s so wounded. It’s very scary.

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Huize Saoed heeft sinds het afzetten van Morsi (Egypte) duidelijk gebroken met de half-witte prins moslimbroeder Soetaro en zijn Amerikaanse staten.

Saudische prins Alwaleed bin Talal: Niet Israël, maar Iran is echte bedreiging voor de wereld

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-1...di-prince.html

Wat toevallig allemaal.

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Wat toevallig allemaal.

Men is boos op 'de verrader' moslimbroeder Obama, de niet zo (nieuwe) geheime alliantie wordt niet langer ontkend.

Toch is er blijkbaar het een en ander veranderd ondertussen :
http://forum.politics.be/showthread.php?t=174777

Nog een interessant artikel uit de Jewish Press :


The Jewish Press - US Betrayal Opens Great Oppurtunity for Israeli Saudi Alliance
26 november 2013 - Ask yourself, what would happen if Saudi Arabia were to change its buying habits?

The Saudis, perhaps more so than Israel, are fearing for their lives. One could think of worse reasons than the will to live for cooperation between historic enemies.

Here at the Muqata think tank, we’ve been analyzing the changes happening around us, and envisioning what a new Middle East could look like, or turn into, if given the chance—based on the real state of affairs in our region. Obviously, we’re looking to develop the best possible realistic scenario for Israel as can be, based on current parameters.

America’s betrayal of long time allies, and its shifting of alliances to the worst of the worst of the Islamic fundamentalist governments, has encouraged a sea change for the entire region.

After U.S. failure to turn Egypt into a fundamentalist Islamic state, it’s now turning to firmly prop up the Islamic Republic of Iran. The end result is that any hope for a popular uprising that would throw out the Ayatollahs is now lost.

A revitalized, aggressive, fundamentalist, and obviously nuclear Iran constitutes a clear and present danger to all the countries in the region, not just Israel.

The recent U.S. betrayal of its long time allies has taught Saudi Arabia, Egypt, and the Gulf States the lesson of an exaggerated reliance on the world’s biggest super power.

America’s Middle East policy has always relied on the three legged stool of Turkey, Saudi Arabia and Iran. When America lost Iran, it tried to replace it with Iraq, then with Egypt, but each attempt resulted in unexpected consequences.

For the U.S., the Iran deal represents a much sought after return to an old and familiar Mid-East policy, never mind the fact that this time Iran and Turkey are very much Islamic, and have developed an imperialistic appetite that threaten their neighbors, most emphatically the Foggy Bottom stool’s third leg, Saudi Arabia, which isn’t buying any of it.

It’s no accident that there has been noise about the Saudis preparing to assist Israel in a strike against Iran’s nuclear facilities. The Gulf States, too, save for Bahrain, are in Israel’s corner, having had thriving business relations with Israel (and shhh, even Settlers) for years. They all view Iran as a radical menace and Israel as its stabilizing antidote.

At the Muqata think tank, we’ve come up with what could be a very realistic realignment, and a plan for a truly new Middle East (Tom Friedman, eat your heart out).

Saudi Arabia has money. Lots of money. Lots of oil too. And of course, lots of desert.

But they don’t have innovation, they don’t have technology, and they no longer enjoy that sense of security they used to have.

Israel has innovation. Israel has technology. Israel knows how to make deserts bloom. Israel has security. But Israel, while becoming energy independent, doesn’t have oil or money (on the Saudi scale), or the production capability to stand alone.

Actually, both states could use better production capabilities.

Both also have had the same reliance on the U.S. to supply them with military platforms.

It’s also no secret that Israel’s military technology and know-how is superior to that of the U.S., but the latter is making sure that the former not be allowed to compete with industries in the American military industrial complex.

And don’t get us started on Israel being forced to take the less than wonderful but shockingly expensive F-35.

Ask yourself, what would happen if Saudi Arabia were to change its buying habits?

Let’s say they decided to buy an Israeli designed advanced fighter jet. Let’s say Saudi Arabia invested in Israeli green tech, to make their deserts bloom.

Let’s say that Saudi Arabia made a new alliance with Israel, based on mutual defense and mutual interests.

It would require of the hyper conservative Saudis to do something brand new, something they wouldn’t have dreamed of doing only a five years ago, when their ambassador to the U.S. was considered an adjunct member of the Bush cabinet. But those days are gone, and the Saudis, perhaps more so than Israel, are fearing for their lives.

One could think of worse reasons than the will to live for cooperation between historic enemies.

If such a pact—which could be denied ad nauseam by both sides—were to happen, we would definitely see Egypt and Jordan joining in. Secretly (at first).

The new Middle East would include Israel, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Jordan, and the Gulf states, vs. Iran, Syria, Lebanon, Turkey and Gaza.

The “Palestinians” of Judea and Samaria would have to sit this one out for a while. Without the U.S. to dominate the process, Israel will be taking its time giving them anything other than their human and civil rights – no national rights for now, thank you very much.

Production facilities remain an issue. Who will be able to take Saudi money and Israeli innovation and offer the enormous industrial facilities required for building the fighter planes, anti-missile systems, and desert blooming technologies of the near future?

The Chinese.

They’re already deeply interested in the Middle East. They’re already involved in major Israeli projects. They will not pass up an opportunity to both become an equal player in the global manufacturing of innovation technology, and push the U.S. down several pegs in the process.

This enormous endeavor will require educating millions of Arabs across the region, forging an affluent middle class to replace tribal societies. Driven by economic opportunity, the masses will soon enough come to expect political freedom as part of the pie – within the scope of their traditions, much the way it’s taking place in Arab communities in New Jersey and Michigan—to name but two states—nowadays.

What about the United States?

Israel and Saudi Arabia would of course still remain friends with the U.S. But no longer client states locked into an unequal relationship.

Perhaps by then Sharia law will have replaced the Constitution, and the next president be even more familiar with the way we do business between the Euphrates and the Mediterranean Sea…

Finally: don’t bother lecturing us on the “evil” of Israel’s association with the less-than-stellar human rights records of China or Saudi Arabia. The U.S. has had no problem imposing immoral pressures on Israel to release murderous Arab terrorists “for the sake of the peace talks,” and no unethical problem throwing Israel under the bus to further diplomacy with Iran. If Israel needs to align itself with China and Saudi Arabia for a better and more secure tomorrow, it is easily on a par with its Oslo accords capitulation to Arab terror.

And unlike the dubious promises of Oslo, this deal will provide Israel with economic and military security against the real threat of a Nuclear Iran.

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Uit vorige C/P onthouden we vooral :



The new Middle East would include Israel, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Jordan, and the Gulf states, vs. Iran, Syria, Lebanon, Turkey and Gaza.

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Sinds de breuk tussen Huize Saoed, VS, Israel en aan de andere kant bvb. de MB zien we dus een nieuw scenario voor het MO op de voorgrond treden.

Opmerkelijk is het feit dat Turkije (NAVO-lid) er uit ligt.

Mss zal deze nieuwe mogelijke breuklijn toch enige nieuwe stabiliteit in het MO brengen (multipolaire strategie/politiek). Aan de andere kant kan de EU uiteindelijk mss voor de as Iran, Syrie, Libanon, Turkije en Gaza kiezen. Laat ons ook niet vergeten dat de MB ruim vertegenwoordigd is in de EU en zij heden geen goede relatie met SA hebben, althans dat laat men toch uitschijnen.

edit : Nu, opgepast met dat artikeltje van de JP. Ik zou het toch met een behoorlijk korreltje zout nemen, maar toch liggen er blijkbaar enige game-changende kaarten op tafel.

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China, een nieuwe betrouwbare partner voor de nieuwe machtsblokken in het MO (Israël, Saudi Arabië, Egypte, Jordanië, en de Golfstaten vs. Iran, Syria, Lebanon, Turkey and Gaza.)?

De creatie van een nieuwe zijderoute?

De rol van China in het MO in de kijker.

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Foreign Policy In Focus - China: What Saudi Arabia, Russia, Iran, Israel, and the U.S. Have in Common
22 november 2013 - China’s good relations with states at odds with each other could yield results at the negotiating table soon. If there is a nation (not “state”) that can successfully convince the Arabs, the Jews and the Persians to sit down simultaneously for a talk, it can only be the Chinese. With the historical cultural links and for immense economic interests, China is both eager and able to lay the table.

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The Jews’ relationship with the Chinese was always sweet in history. “Seventy years ago, only Shanghai opened the door to provide a sanctuary to Jewish refugees,” Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said in his visit to Shanghai in May 2013. “From the early 1930s, tens of thousands of Jewish refugees who fled Europe made Shanghai their home.” In 2011, the trade amount between Israel and China was not that much at US$9,778 million, but it is no ordinary goods and services. Despite heavy pressure from the Pentagon, Israel has been selling certain weapons and military technologies to China since the formal establishment of diplomatic relations in 1992. Given China’s ties with other Islamic nations, this kind of mutual trust is incredible.

Commodity and cultural exchanges between Iran and China can also be traced back to the Tang Dynasty (618-907AD). When the Persian merchants went to China for silk and tea, they were free to preach their religion in the Middle Kingdom without interference. While they kept on fighting against the Ottoman Empire, the Persian never had trouble with the Chinese. In 2011, the trade between these two historically friendly nations amounted to US$45,103 million. China is now not just the major buyer of Iran’s crude, but also the leading supplier of all types of goods and services in the wake of the embargo worldwide.

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China weet maar al te goed hoe het westen faalt met hun nefast MO-beleid en ze springen daar dan ook op :

China Daily - Syria and the coming of a new world order

Kortom, China zegt... het kinderspel is NU voorbij.

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Het houdt niet op, XINHUA bericht :

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/wo..._132929815.htm

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De rol van prins Bandar...

http://www.counterpunch.org/2013/11/...ign-of-terror/

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Beelden van het werk van de vredesbrengers...

(niet voor gevoelige mensen/UITERST storend grafisch materiaal!)

http://www*barenakedislam*com/catego...adings-graphic

C/P de link en *=.

Nogmaals, dit materiaal is absoluut niet geschikt voor de gevoeligere mensen, laat varen AUB in dat geval.

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SA en Israel werken blijkbaar aan een krachtigere 'stuxnet'.

Israel and Saudi Arabia are reportedly collaborating to create a new destructive computer worm to “spy on and destroy the software structure” of Iran’s nuclear program, the semi-official Iranian news agency Fars said over the weekend.

Fars, the outlet of Iran’s Revolutionary Guards, quoted “an informed source” close to the Saudi secret service as saying that Saudi spy chief Prince Bandar bin Sultan and Mossad head Tamir Pardo each sent a representative to Vienna on November 24 with the purpose of increasing the “‘two sides’ cooperation in intelligence and sabotage operations against Iran’s nuclear program.”

HAARETZ

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Wie zijn de sponsors?

Enige aanwijzingen :

PressTV - Saudi Arabia, US teamed up to invent Takfirism: Book
24 december 2013

The United States teamed up with Saudi Arabia in the 1990s to conceive Takfirism, says former CIA officer Robert Baer in his book.

In his 2003 book, Sleeping with the Devil, Baer traces the Saudi government’s finance of Takfiri terrorism in Chechnya.

“After I left the CIA, I found my answer in a batch of Russian intelligence reports that drew a convincingly direct link between the Saudi government and the Chechen rebels. It was not a question of Saudi charity money finding its way to the Chechens,” writes Baer.

In June 1998, he said, forty Chechens were “quietly brought to a secret military camp located seventy-five miles southeast of Riyadh” to undergo military training for four months.

“A lot of time was set aside for indoctrination into Wahhabi Islam. [Prince] Salman, the governor of Riyadh and the full brother of [then Saudi ruler] King Fahd, was the camp’s sponsor,” writes Baer.

Baer, who spent 21 years with the Central Intelligence Agency, said Saudi Arabia was “directly sponsoring terrorism.”

He noted that the money US pays for crude oil supplied by Saudi Arabia serves terrorist activities.

“For American arms makers, Saudi Arabia is an industry subsector all its own, with its own peculiar rules. We buy oil from Saudi Arabia, refine it, and put it in our automobiles, and a certain small percentage of what we pay for it ends up funding terrorist acts against America and American institutions at home and abroad,” wrote Baer.

He said the center of the global economy is a “kingdom built on thievery, one that nurtures terrorism, destroys any possibility of a middle class based on property rights, and promotes slavery and prostitution.”

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Een beetje meer over bepaalde doelstellingen van deze lieverdjes, de Takfiries/Takfir.


PressTV - Takfiris seek to distort image of Islam: Iran MP

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vergeet hezbollah niet in Israël...

Die Hezbollah is echt geen partij voor Israël , als ze echt willen blijft daar op relatief korte tijd niet veel meer van over.