Hoe Israël de steun van Europa langzaam aan het verliezen is

[Jay-P.]

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Wat niet ter zake doende is citeer ik niet.

Stop dan posten en ga doppen.

[Vrijheideerst]

Wat is b'sd?

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Wat is b'sd?

"Met de hulp van god".
Ely kan niets zonder zijn virtuele vriendje.
Als die wegvalt gaat hij verkrachten, moorden en andere vreselijke dingen doen.

[Zeus]

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Wat is b'sd?

Betekent letterlijk vertaald 'met de hulp van de hemel'. Orthodoxe joden zetten het voor alles wat ze schrijven. Het is een herinnering dat alles van God komt, ook de woorden en hun inhoud.

[Jay-P.]

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Wat is b'sd?

'k kan 't ni zelf.

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Natuurlijk hebben ze dat recht wel, maar volgens het internationaal gerechtshof niet.

Dus dat gerechtshof heeft, net als de rest van de VN, zichzelf al gediskwalificeerd door blijk te geven van extreme jodenhaat.

De grap van de eeuw !! extreme jodenhaat door de VN.
voor u is iedereen jodenhater wanneer deze kritiek heeft op Israel, zo simpel is het.
Een nogal achterhaalde tactiek die nooit enige inhoud heeft.

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Wanneer hebben de Joden voor het laatst aanslagen gepleegd in europa?

!

En wanneer hebben de Palestijnen voor het laatst een aanslag gepleegd in Europa ??

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Wanneer hebben de Joden voor het laatst aanslagen gepleegd in europa?

!

En wanneer hebben de Palestijnen voor het laatst een aanslag gepleegd in Europa ??

[Dixie]

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En wanneer hebben de Palestijnen voor het laatst een aanslag gepleegd in Europa ??

de jaren 80 zeker, Israël nooit. Hun moslim broeders vandaag nog, nu ja das al geen nieuws meer...

[Rikm]

Er wonen zo'n kleine 1500000 Palestijnen in Israël. Israëlische burgers, dus. We weten dat ze niet dezelfde rechten genieten als de joden in Israël. Dat is racistisch van de staat Israël en niet te verdedigen.

Maar dat neemt niet weg dat m.i. die anderhalf miljoen Palestijnen bij machte moeten zijn om een politieke partij op te richten en hun plaats op te eisen in de Knesset. Waarom doen ze dat niet.

In het geval dat ze het gewoon niet mogen van de staat Israël, moeten we met z'n allen naar Den Haag stappen en de racistische staat Israël voor de rechtbank dagen.

En ja, ik vond het behoorlijk cynisch, dat Netanyahu op de eerste rij meeliep in Parijs.

[Drukazz]

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Er wonen zo'n kleine 1500000 Palestijnen in Israël. Israëlische burgers, dus. We weten dat ze niet dezelfde rechten genieten als de joden in Israël. Dat is racistisch van de staat Israël en niet te verdedigen.

Maar dat neemt niet weg dat m.i. die anderhalf miljoen Palestijnen bij machte moeten zijn om een politieke partij op te richten en hun plaats op te eisen in de Knesset. Waarom doen ze dat niet.

In het geval dat ze het gewoon niet mogen van de staat Israël, moeten we met z'n allen naar Den Haag stappen en de racistische staat Israël voor de rechtbank dagen.

En ja, ik vond het behoorlijk cynisch, dat Netanyahu op de eerste rij meeliep in Parijs.

Van welke planeet kom jij eigenlijk? Al sinds '48 zetelen arabieren in het Israëlische parlement

En als ik zie wat voor rotzooi zij daar allemaal durven vertellen vraag ik mij wel af of dit zo'n goede zaak is

[Rikm]

Blijkbaar zijn ze te verdeeld om een vuist te maken in de Knesset. Daar ging het me om. Kijk: een paar jaar geleden zat Bourgeois helemaal alleen in het Vlaams parlement en nu is hij begot premier ministre van Vlaanderen. How about them apples? Ik kom wel degelijk van het centrum van de planeet Aarde, hoor.

[Dixie]

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Van welke planeet kom jij eigenlijk? Al sinds '48 zetelen arabieren in het Israëlische parlement

auw die was pijnlijk. Die leugens kunnen ook weer de prullenmand in!

[Rikm]

Drie Arabische lijsten kwamen op, die behaalden resp. 138450, 113439 en 97030 stemmen, een stagnatie. Vergelijk met Likoed: 885054 stemmen.

Samen halen ze 11 van de 120 zetels.
Gewoon knudde, dus.
Om hun democratische rechten te doen gelden, zou enige politieke actie wellicht veel meer waard zijn, dan het gepolariseer waar we vanop een afstand voortdurend getuige van zijn.
Bovendien beogen alle drie de partijen een onafhankelijke Palestijnse staat, waarvoor ze nooit een meerderheid kunnen halen en wat dus m.i. redelijk contraproductief is.

D�*t wou ik aankaarten. Als iemand dacht dat ik echt naar Den Haag wou lopen, dan pleit dat niet voor zijn bevattingsvermogen. Maar goed, ik zal vanaf nu proberen om nooit meer enige ironie te hanteren.

[Jan van den Berghe]

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Blijkbaar zijn ze te verdeeld om een vuist te maken in de Knesset. Daar ging het me om. Kijk: een paar jaar geleden zat Bourgeois helemaal alleen in het Vlaams parlement en nu is hij begot premier ministre van Vlaanderen. How about them apples? Ik kom wel degelijk van het centrum van de planeet Aarde, hoor.

Als we uw redenering even volgen, zou dit inhouden dat Joodse Israëli's massaal voor een van die drie Palestijnse partijen zou stemmen. Ik denk dat de Arabische woestijn nog eerder in klei verandert dan dat dit zou gebeuren.

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de jaren 80 zeker, Israël nooit. Hun moslim broeders vandaag nog, nu ja das al geen nieuws meer...

Kortom , al heel lang niet meer. de lui die nu aanslagen plegen zijn geen Palestijnen noch broeders.

[Eliyahu]

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List of Black September attacks

1971
August

August 24, Madrid: a bomb blew a hole in a place that Jordanian Queen mother Zein had used. This attack is sometimes credited to Black September.

November

November 28, Cairo: Prime Minister of Jordan Wasfi Tel was assassinated.

December

December 15, London: Black September attempted to assassinate Zaid Rifai, Jordanian ambassador to the United Kingdom.

December 16, Geneva: a parcel bomb sent to Jordan's UN Mission in Geneva exploded while police were attempting to examine it. The blast injured three people.

1972
February

February 6, Ravenstein, Netherlands: oil tankers owned by Gulf Oil were set on fire by explosions. Black September claimed credit for the attack because Gulf Oil aided Israel.

February 6, Brühl, North Rhine-Westphalia, Germany: five Jordanians suspected of spying for Israel were executed near Cologne.

February 8, Hamburg: the Streuber Motor factory is bombed. The factory made electrical generators used in Israeli aircraft.

May

Sabena Flight 571 is highjacked

August

August 5, Trieste: a joint Black September – Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine operation blew up six oil tanks, causing $7 million worth of damage. They claimed they did it because the facility supplied oil to Austria and West Germany.
August 16, Rome: an El Al flight was interrupted after a bomb allegedly hid in a phonograph machine blew a hole in the baggage compartment. The Nationalist Youth Group for the Liberation of Palestine took credit, but some[who?] believed Black September was the culprit.

September

September 5–9, Munich: Munich massacre

September 11, Brussels: Ophir Zadok, an official at the Israeli embassy was lured to a local cafe by a man claiming knowledge of a terrorist attack against the embassy. He was shot by two assailants. Black September was suspected.

September 16, Amsterdam: 64 mail bombs are mailed from Amsterdam to various Israeli targets in Europe, the Americas, Australia and Africa.

September 19, London: Dr. Ami Schechori, the agricultural attache at the Israeli Embassy in London is killed after opening one of the Black September letter bombs personally addressed to him. He reportedly believed the package contained Dutch flower seeds he wanted to plant when he got home. The blast exploded on his desk and the official was killed when a large wooden splinter drove through his heart. Theodore Kaddar, who had recently arrived to succeed Schechori, was also injured.[1]

September 19, London: Israeli security agents search the mail and find four letter bombs addressed to members of the embassy staff, and four addressed to Ambassador Michael Comay

September 19, London: four letter bombs addressed to members of the staff at the Israeli embassy are found at a London post office. One of the letters opened by the police contained a note from Black September.[2]

September 19, Paris: the Israeli embassy discovered two letter bombs.[3]

September 20, London: eight more letter bombs are addressed to Israeli officials are intercepted.

September 20, Ottawa: six letter bombs were addressed to Israeli officials were discovered.[4]

September 20, Montreal: a letter bomb addressed to the Israeli consul general Pinchas Shanaan was discovered.[5]

September 20, New York: three letter bombs addressed to Israeli officials were discovered at a post office, addressed to Yosef Tekoah, the Israeli ambassador to the UN, Jacob Barrone and Uri Gordon, members of Israels Permanent Mission to the UN.[6]

September 20, Geneva: five letter bombs addressed to Israeli officials in Austria were discovered.

September 20, Brussels: a letter bomb addressed to an Israeli official was discovered.

September 20, Tel Aviv: a letter bomb addressed an Israeli official is found.

September 20, Jerusalem: a letter addressed to an Israeli official exploded in a post office, injuring a postal worker.

September 20, Australia: five letter bombs addressed to Israeli officials were discovered.

September 21, Baranquilla, Colombia: a threat is made against an American firm is made on behalf of Black September. An intruder is spotted at 1:35 am but is chased away by security guards. Officials regard the incident as a "false alarm".

September 21, Jerusalem: ten letter bombs were discovered at a post office.[7]

September 21, Kinshasa, Zaire: an undisclosed number of letter bombs were discovered at the Israeli embassy.[8]

September 21, Buenos Aires: five letter bombs were discovered at the Israeli embassy.[9]

September 21, Phnom Penh, Cambodia: a letter bomb was discovered at the Israeli embassy.

September 22, London: Scotland Yard volunteered to coordinate a global effort to investigate the letter bombs.

September 23, Amman: Jordanian police discover four of the Amsterdam letter bombs addressed to its officials.
October

October 4, Rome: the first of a series of Malaysian postmarked letter bombs was discovered at the office of the United Hias Society. The package contained a note from Black September.[10]

October 6, Algiers: Palestinian students held hostages in the West German consulate demanding the release of three Black September prisoners. The hostages are released after an hour. The Black September Organization itself does not appear to have been involved.

October 6, New York: a Malaysian postmarked letter bomb addressed to Hannah Goldberg, former executive director of Hadassah fails to explode when she opens it. The package contained a note from Black September.[11]

October 10, New York: a Malaysian postmarked letter bomb addressed to Rose Halpern, former president of Hadassah fails to explode when she opens it.[12]

October 10, Bulawayo, Rhodesia: Malaysian postmarked letter bombs were discovered mailed to Jewish families. One was the monther of Jewish weightlifter John Orkin, a member of the Rhodesian Olympic team. The bombs fail to explode.[13]

October 10, Colombo, Ceylon: a US embassy official received a telephone assassination threat from a man claiming to be from Black September. It is not known if BSO was really involved.

October 14, New York: a Malaysian postmarked letter bomb addressed to a former official of Haddassah exploded in the hands of postal clerk William Figueroa, blowing off his right little finger and requiring an operation to remove fragments of the device from his left.[14]

October 25, Kiryat Shmona, Israel: letter bombs addressed to Richard Nixon, Melvin Laird and William Rogers are intercepted. Israeli official they were mailed either by a local Arab or infiltrators from Lebanon.

October 29, Beirut: Lufthansa Flight 615 was hijacked. Two perpetrators threatened to blow up the aircraft if the three surviving Black September members responsible for the Munich massacre are not released from custody. The West German authorities decided to comply, flying the Munich attackers to Zagreb where they boarded the hijacked Boeing 727. The Lufthansa plane was forced to fly to Tripolis, where all hostages were released and the Black September members were given a hero's welcoming.[15]

November

November 10, Bombay: police intercept 42 letter bombs addressed to Jewish firms in Europe[16]

November 10, New Delhi: police intercept 10 letter bombs addressed to Jewish firms in Europe[17]

November 10, Geneva: police intercept five Indian postmarked letter bombs addressed to the Israel Mission to the UN in Geneva and Jewish organizations.

November 10, London: Mr. Vivian Prins, head of a diamond company that traded with Israel was wounded when an Indian post marked bomb exploded in his face.

November 10, London, Glasgow: police intercepted twenty letter bombs addressed to Jewish targets throughout Britain.

November 10, New York: another postal worker was injured while handling an Indian postmarked letter bomb.

November 10, New York: the head of Haddassah received a letter bomb

November 10, Amsterdam: a Dutch Jew received a letter bomb

November 13, Paris: journalist Khodr Kannou was shot by three gunmen. Attack is variously attributed to Black September, who may have been unhappy with a story he was writing or believed him to be a Mossad agent, or part of Mossads Operation Wrath of God

December

December, Cyprus: police foil an alleged Black September plot to hijack a Cyprus to Israel plane

December 20, Beirut: the US embassy was hit by two anti-tank rocket. Some official attributed the attack to Black September.

December 24, London: Abdul Karin Fuheid, a Fatah official, is arrested in at an airport on illegal possession of a firearm and fifty rounds of ammunition. Black September demands release of their "courier".

December 26, Turkey: two Black September operatives were arrested trying to leave the country en route for Paris. Police found explosives, detonators, firing devices and plastic bombs in their car.

December 28, Bangkok: 1972 Israeli Embassy attack in Bangkok

1973
January

January, Brookline, Massachusetts: Black September made threats to the families of member of the Israeli consulate.

January 8, Paris: Black September claimed credit for placing a bomb that destroyed the offices of the Jewish Agency for Israel

January 20, Vienna: thee Black Septemberists were arrested in connection with a plot to blow up Schönau camp for Jewish refugees from the Soviet Union

January 26, Madrid: Shin Bet officer Baruch Cohen was lured to a cafe by an Arab contact who promised to provide him information on politically active Arabs in Spain and fatally shot. His assailants fled to an airport and left the country.

January 27, Austro-Italian border: three more members of Black September were arrested on attempting to enter Italy. They were part of the operation to blow up the Schonau camp.

February

February 15, Amman: police arrested Abu Daoud. Daoud was in the midst of an assassination and coup plot against King Hussein of Jordan. A high ranking Black September operative, Daoud provided authorities with extensive information the groups activities.

February 21, Israel: a Libyan 727 accidentally flew into Israeli airspace. Aware of Black September threats to crash an airliner into Tel Aviv, the Israeli Air Force shot the plane down, killing 106.

March

March 1, Khartoum: Attack on the Saudi embassy in Khartoum

March 7, New York: 1973 New York City bomb plot

March 12, Nicosia: Simha Gilzer, an Israeli businessman, was assassinated in the steps of the Palace Hotel. Black September took credit the following day saying the man was a Mossad officer and had been complicit in the killing of a Black September leader in January.

March 15, Franco-Italian border: police apprehended Black September operative who were planning attacks against the Israeli and Jordanian embassies.

[Eliyahu]

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Japanese PM: Technology, Counter-terror Partnership with Israel

In historic visit to Israel, Abe and Netanyahu discuss rapid expanse in ties, from technology to economics, counter-terror to diplomacy.

Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe is in the midst of an historical three-day visit to Israel after arriving on Sunday, and during meetings with Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu he expressed full support for rapidly expanding economic cooperation between the nations.

"There is no reason for Japan, which places innovation as an engine of economic growth, not to cooperate with Israel, which invents innovative technology," Abe said according to the Japanese-language paper Sankei.

Abe, who visited accompanied by representatives from around 30 private Japanese companies in an effort to foster greater business ties, said that he would "like to enter preparatory negotiations" regarding mutual investments with Israel.

Netanyahu and Abe presided over a "Japan-Israel Business Forum" on Sunday night to promote mutual connections, in which Netanyahu emphasized that Israel must shift its focus from Europe to Asia, saying such a move is an appropriate response to the growing "Islamization" and "anti-Zionist" policies coming out of Europe.

Aside from urging greater economic ties, Abe during the visit also made general remarks supporting a return to peace talks between Israel and the Palestinian Authority (PA), with such statements being standard fare among visiting leaders.

According to the Japanese-language Mainichi Shimbun, Abe said "I worry about the chain of violence and distrust. I would like the great enterprise of realizing peace to be achieved."

Abe also criticized the PA for its recent move to sue Israel for "war crimes" at the International Criminal Court, in a unilateral move in breach of the 1993 Oslo Accords that created the PA.

"I strongly request (from the PA) to avoid moves that do not contribute to Middle East peace," stated Abe, indicating that Japanese recognition of "Palestine" would only come as a result of talks between the PA and Israel, and not unilateral steps taken by the PA at the UN or elsewhere.

Partners fighting terror

The Japanese prime minister also addressed the Islamist terrorist attacks that left 17 murdered in Paris earlier this month, including four Jews murdered at a kosher supermarket..

"Cowardly terrorism cannot be forgiven for any reason, and I would like to firmly condemn (the attacks)," he said.

Netanyahu responded, saying "we must stop terrorism now," and the two agreed to collaborate in the fight against Islamist terrorism.

Speaking in Cairo before coming to Israel, Abe promised $2.5 billion in humanitarian and development aid for countries affected by violent expansion of the Islamic State (ISIS) jihadist group in Iraq and Syria.

Abe's visit, which comes on the heels of a stop in Egypt and Jordan, is highly significant, as it is the first visit by a Japanese prime minister in nine years, and is his first official international trip since being re-elected last month in snap elections that solidified his power.

Making the visit even more meaningful is the fact that last month the Israeli Cabinet approved a landmark plan by Netanyahu to expand ties with Japan in all fields, in a three-year project that represents an investment of millions of shekels and involves numerous governmental ministries.

Israel-Japan ties have been going through a renaissance since last year, including Netanyahu's May visit to Japan, the signing of an Industrial R&D Agreement in July - the first such agreement Japan has signed, a visit last October by Japan's Deputy Foreign Minister, and an official Israeli delegation visit to Japan last November.

[geertvdb]

Dank u Eli om zo kort en bondig te zijn.

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List of Black September attacks
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1973
[...]
March 15, Franco-Italian border: police apprehended Black September operative who were planning attacks against the Israeli and Jordanian embassies.

15 maart '73 dus volgens Ely.
Dat is best wel lang geleden