Oekraïne - Het Westen of Rusland?

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Generaal Leonid Ivashov waarschuwde reeds op 4 februari 2014:

Global Research - Russian General: “We Are At War”
24 februari 2014

In an interview published Feb. 5 by km.ru, Gen. Leonid Ivashov, the former foreign relations head of the Russian Ministry of Defense and current president of the Academy of Geopolitical Studies, issued a sharp warning about the nature of the strategic crisis unfolding in Ukraine:

“Apparently they [officials of the European Union and U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry] have dedicated themselves, and continue to do so, to deeply and thoroughly studying the doctrine of Dr. Goebbels. . . They present everything backwards from reality. It is one of the formulas which Nazi propaganda employed most successfully: . . . They accuse the party that is defending itself, of aggression. What is happening in Ukraine and Syria is is a project of the West, a new type of war: in both places you see a clear anti-Russian approach, and as is well known, wars today begin with psychological and information warfare operations. . . Kerry and Obama are encouraging in Kiev what they harshly repress in their country. European leaders break up unauthorized demonstrations with hoses, throwing demonstrators in jail, while in the Ukrainian case they do the exact opposite, and on top of that they threaten Russia. Logically, this is part of information warfare.

“Keep in mind that, under the cover of information commotion, U.S. ships are entering the Black Sea, that is, near Ukraine. They are sending marines, and they have also begun to deploy more tanks in Europe. . . We see that on the heels of the disinformation operation a land-sea, and possibly air operation is being prepared.

“They haven’t even taught [opposition leaders] Klitchko, Yatsenyuk and Tyahnybok to run a government efficiently. The main thing is for them to take power, and destroy the Ukrainian state.”

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De geopolitieke anti-Moskou strategie van de neocons:

Global Research - Neocons and the Ukraine Coup
24 februari 2014

[julian]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door RSK

Oleg Tjagnjibok, de leider van de neo-nazistische partij van Oekraïne, Svoboda, pleit voor een verbod op Russische programma’s en kanalen op de Oekraïense televisie. Naar zijn inzicht verkondigen Russische media in Oekraïne propaganda over hetgeen zich de laatste tijd voordeed in het land.

http://www.vostok.rs/index.php?optio...k#.UwtCY86PP-4

En gelijk heeft hij. Zelfs hier gebeurt dat.

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Interview met professor Francis A. Boyle:

(*) Zbiggy wil Rusland in 68 betekenisloze deeltjes zien opbreken...


Ukraine’s “Brown Shirt Revolution”: Part of a US -NATO -EU Plan to Break up Russia?
22 februari 2014

<sub>It is a fact that since 9-11-2001, the US Government has been in the business of destroying countries and using NATO as it principle instrument. That was stated more than a decade ago by then US Deputy Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz and later by General Wesley Clark. The Pentagon drew up a list of 7 states that were to be destroyed: Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and Syria and they have systematically proceeded to destroy all of the Countries on the list. The strategy in Ukraine is the same, US/NATO/EU are promoting the destabilization and the breakup of Ukraine in order to achieve the NATO goal of moving into Ukrainian territory closer to Russia. Harvard Professor Francis Boyle, a US based Russian expert who was invited to the Soviet Union to lecture spoke on these issues and more in an interview with the Voice of Russia.

While Russia was distracted into believing that the US wanted a reset US foreign policy was being planned and dictated by rabid Russia haters like Zbignew Brzezinski and Richard Pipes. Brzezinski wants to breakup Russia into approximately 68 parts and has placed his protégés in key US foreign policy posts. According to Mr. Boyle Brezezinski has staffed the Obama administration with his acolytes and protégées, including the US Ambassador to Russia Michael McFaul, a specialist in color revolutions. At the end of the day the US plan is to see the breakup of the Russian Federation, that is the goal.

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Het interview (AUDIO):

Voice of Russia

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_{European Union’s Ukrainian neo-Nazi regalia as recommended by the CIA “Black bloc”}

Opmerkelijk:

_{Regime Change Pamphlets Handed Out For Colored Protests In Ukraine Were The Same Handed Out By The Muslim Brotherhood In Egypt!}

[julian]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door zonbron

De geopolitieke anti-Moskou strategie van de neocons:

Global Research - Neocons and the Ukraine Coup
24 februari 2014

Zaag gij maar lekker verder. Geen normale mens die het leest.

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Bericht van Dr. Ron Paul:

Video - Leave Ukraine Alone!

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Extreem rechts aan de macht, falende regime change van Washington/EU. Oorlog dreigt...

Opiniestuk van Paul Craig Roberts :

Democracy Murdered By Protest — Ukraine Falls To Intrigue and violence

<sub>The Russian parts of Ukraine clearly understand that the Right Sector’s destruction of the monument commemorating the stand of the Red Army against the German troops is a threat against the Russian population of Ukraine. Provincial governments in eastern and southern Ukraine that formerly were part of Russia are organizing militias against the ultra-nationalist threat unleashed by Washington’s stupidity and incompetence and by the naive and gullible Kiev protesters.

Having interfered in Ukraine’s internal affairs and lost control, Washington is now issuing ultimatums to Russia not to interfere in Ukraine. Does the idiot Susan Rice, Obama’s neoconservative National Security Advisor, think Putin is going to pay any attention to her ultimatums or to any instruction from a government so militarily incompetent that it was unable to successfully occupy Baghdad after 8 years or to defeat a few thousand lightly armed Taliban after 12 years? In only took a few hours for Russian troops to destroy the American and Israeli trained and armed Georgian army that Washington sent to invade South Ossetia.

Where does Obama find morons like Susan Rice and Victoria Nuland? These two belong in a kindergarten for mentally handicapped children, not in the government of a superpower where their ignorance and arrogance can start World War 3.

Ukraine is far more important to Russia than it is to the US or EU. If the situation in Ukraine spirals out of control and right-wing extremists seize control, Russian intervention is certain. The arrogant and stupid Obama regime has carelessly and recklessly created a direct strategic threat to the existence of Russia.

According to the Moscow Times, this is what a senior Russian official has to say: “If Ukraine breaks apart, it will trigger a war.” Ukraine “will lose Crimera first,” because Russia “will go in just as we did in Georgia.” Another Russian official said: “ We will not allow Europe and the US to take Ukraine from us. The states of the former Soviet Union, we are one family. They think Russia is still as weak as in the early 1990s but we are not.”

The Ukrainian right-wing is in a stronger position than Washington’s paid Ukrainian puppets, essentially weak and irrelevant persons who sold out their country for Washington’s money. The Right Sector is organized. It is armed. It is indigenous. It is not dependent on money funneled in from Washington and EU financed NGOs. It has an ideology, and it is focused. The Right Sector doesn’t have to pay its protesters to take to the streets like Washington had to do.

Most importantly, well-meaning but stupid protesters–especially the Kiev students–and an Ukrainian parliament playing to the protesters destroyed Ukrainian democracy. The opposition controlled parliament removed an elected president from office without an election, an obvious illegal and undemocratic action. The opposition controlled parliament issued illegal arrest warrants for members of the president’s government. The opposition controlled parliament illegally released criminals from prison. As the opposition has created a regime of illegality in place of law and constitutional procedures, the field is wide open for the Right Sector. Expect everything the opposition did to Yanukovich to be done to them by the Right Sector. By their own illegal and unconstitutional actions, the opposition has set the precedent for their own demise.

Just as the February 1917 revolution against the Russian Tsar set the stage for the October 1917 Bolshevik Revolution, surprising the stupid “reformers,” the overthrow of the Ukrainian political order has set the stage for the Right Sector. We can only hope that the Right Sector blows its chance.

The American media is a useless news source. It serves as a Ministry for Government Lies. The corrupt propagandists are portraying the undemocratic removal of Yanukovich as a victory for freedom and democracy. When it begins to leak out that everything has gone wrong, the presstitutes will blame it all on Russia and Putin. The Western media is a plague upon humanity.

Americans have no idea that the neoconservative regime of the White House Fool is leading them into a Great Power Confrontation that could end in destruction of life on earth.

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Rusland waarschuwt en beschuldigt het westen van schaamteloze geopolitieke spelletjes:

RT - Ukraine’s new authorities resort to ‘dictatorial’ methods in regions – Russia
24 februari 2014

<sub>Russia has lashed out at the new regime in Kiev, accusing it of using “dictatorial” and “terrorist” methods to suppress dissent in the country, with backing from the West which is “acting out of geopolitical self-interest.”

“The position of some of our Western partners doesn’t show genuine concern, but a desire to act out of geopolitical self-interest,” said a statement on the Russian foreign ministry’s website.

“There is no condemnation of criminal actions by extremists, including manifestations or neo-Nazism and anti-Semitism. In fact, these are being encouraged.”

The statement went on to say that “outside sponsors” are advancing a “regime change” in the country, without a desire to find “national consensus."</sub>

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Yanukovich gezocht voor massamoord:

http://rt.com/news/yanukovich-ukrain...t-warrant-417/

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Gehackte emails van Klitschko zouden verraad aantonen... (Anonymous Ukraine: operatie onafhankelijkheid)

Voice of Russia - Anonymous Ukraine releases Klitschko e-mails showing treason

Anonymous Ukraine is battling the forces in Ukraine that are funded and directed from the West and attempting to overthrow the democratically elected government of the sovereign country of Ukraine.

Anonymous Ukraine is operating in what can only now be described as a war zone and the security measures they are forced to take are extreme. A member of Anonymous Ukraine who wishes to remain anonymous spoke to the Voice of Russia about the operations and the recent release of e-mails between Vitaly Klischko and the Lithuanian Presidential advisor. The e-mails show that Klitschko was intentionally planning to destabilize the country, is being instructed and funded from abroad and has his accounts in Germany.

Greetings citizens of the world. We are Anonymous Ukraine.

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Big Story (AP) - Ukraine's turmoil brings tough challenge to Putin
_{24 februari 2014 - MOSCOW (AP) — A successful Olympics behind him, President Vladimir Putin is facing what may become the most dramatic challenge of his rule: how to respond to the turmoil in Ukraine, a country he has declared vital for Russia's interests, which is home to millions of Russian-speakers and hosts a major Russian navy base.}

[Jan van den Berghe]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door zonbron

Extreem rechts aan de macht, falende regime change van Washington/EU. Oorlog dreigt...

Iedere gewelddadige verandering binnen een land eindigt met een zeker machtsvacuüm. Dat was bij ons trouwens na het vertrek van de Duitsers op het einde van de oorlog niets anders.

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Nog niet zo lang geleden:

[Jan van den Berghe]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door quercus

Jouw redenering volgend zou je dat dan net zo goed kunnen zeggen van een flink deel van Oost-Europa. Horen volgens jou Estland, Letland en Litouwen er dan ook niet bij? Die mensen van aldaar zullen het graag horen...

Overigens, Polen is in de loop van zijn bewogen geschiedenis nauw betrokken geweest bij het wedervaren van Oekraïne, toch in de Westelijke helft ervan. Of hoort Polen volgens jou ook al niet meer bij Europa?

Kan men trouwens heden en toekomst laten afhangen van wat ooit in het verleden met een bepaald gebied is gebeurd?

Behoort een deel van België en Nederland dan Duitsland toe, omdat het ooit deel was van het middeleeuwse Duitse Rijk...?!

Hoe zien we de toekomst van Finland, een land dat toch tussen twee grote machtsblokken werd getrokken en pas vrij recent op eigen benen kon en mocht staan?

[Jan van den Berghe]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door straddle

Nog niet zo lang geleden:

Wat wilt u aantonen?

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Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Jan van den Berghe

Wat wilt u aantonen?

Voor 1 keer een gewoon sfeerbeeld, zonder woorden.

[Geert C]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door zonbron

Gehackte emails van Klitschko zouden verraad aantonen... (Anonymous Ukraine: operatie onafhankelijkheid)

Denk je ook niet dat dit Russische propaganda is? Of geloof jij écht dat die mails echt zijn?

[doremi]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Geert C

Denk je ook niet dat dit Russische propaganda is? Of geloof jij écht dat die mails echt zijn?

Als ik die Klitshko zie twijfel ik of die een mail kan lezen/typen.

[julian]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door straddle

Nog niet zo lang geleden:

Typische desinformatie want staatshoofden schudden elkander nu eenmaal de hand als ze ontmoetingen hebben op internationale bijeenkomsten. Geen uiting van enige vorm van sympathie.