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[Nynorsk]

HOMOSEXUALITY and PEDOPHILIA

- Is There a Connection?



Some 4,000 years ago, the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah were famous for depravity. Pedophilia was apparently among the region's many vices. Genesis 19:4 describes a sex-crazed mob of Sodomites ranging "from boy to old man" seeking to rape Lot's two male guests. Consider: Why would mere boys be inflamed with the idea of raping males? Clearly they had already been introduced to homosexual perversions.
- "Awake" 10/8/93 p3

In recent times, the Roman Catholic Church has been rocked by scandal within its priesthood due to incident after incident of child molestation being brought to light as more and more victims of pedophilia step forward. When the Vatican made it's first public statement about the scandal, the Pope's chief spokesman told the New York Times in March 2002 that the church needs to prevent gays from entering the priesthood. With this statement, the Vatican perpetuated the myth that homosexuality and pedophilia are somehow interconnected. But is this really so? The Watchtower Bible and Tract Society (parent corporation and publisher of all Jehovah's Witness literature) seems to think so. The following are actual quotes from Watchtower literature:



"Then again, a young boy may get started in homosexuality by being seduced by homosexual men. There was a glaring example of this in Vancouver, Canada, where some homosexuals seduced thirty-five young boys between the ages of ten and fourteen and then made traffic out of them."
- "The Watchtower" 5/15/70 p314 "Shocking as it is, even some who have been prominent in Jehovah's organization have succumbed to immoral practices, including homosexuality, wife swapping, and child molesting."
- "The Watchtower" 1/1/86 p12

"History does not make clear how prevalent homosexuality was among the Romans. No doubt, though, they were influenced by their Greek predecessors, among whom it was widely practiced. It was customary for older men to corrupt young boys, taking them under their wing in a student-teacher relationship that often steered the youngsters into deviant sexual behavior. Undoubtedly, Satan and his demons were behind such vice and mistreatment of children."
- "The Watchtower" 7/15/97 pg.10



Long before pedophilia in the priesthood came under the scrutiny of the news media as intensely as it has in recent times, Jehovah's Witnesses recognized this activity within the Catholic Church and used it to scandalize the church in an attempt to prove that the Catholic Church is the "Whore of Babylon" mentioned in the book of Revelation, as the Watchtower has preached for decades. Unfortunately, Jehovah's Witnesses also utilized this as an opportunity to equate pedophilia with homosexuality, as the following three passages from "Awake" magazine reveal:



"During the synod, Higton had presented a sensational dossier of evidence against the homosexual clergy. One was convicted of child molesting but was merely moved to another parish. Another priest, convicted of gross indecency in a public toilet, was appointed to another diocese, where he was convicted of a similar offense-still not defrocked. Homosexual Anglican priests in London, Higton reported, ran a church bookstall for 'selling literature alleged to encourage homosexual promiscuity, the use of male prostitutes, and a variety of homosexual acts.' One book in the stall allegedly showed 'a five-year-old girl in bed with her father and his male lover.'"
- "Awake" 1/22/89 p8 "HOMOSEXUAL CLERGY - 'Church leadership is tolerating a double standard on celibacy and, because of stupidity and cowardice, permitting the priesthood to become substantially, perhaps in due course mostly, gay,' says Greeley. While acknowledging that 'many priests, bishops, popes and even saints in ages past have probably been more homosexual than heterosexual in their orientation,' he believes that current ecclesiastical policy toward the sexuality of priests is causing the clergy to become predominantly homosexual, damaging even more 'the already tarnished image of the priesthood.' Greeley adds: 'It appears that many homosexual priests ordained in the past two decades are sexually active and that some of them are also pedophiles [prefer children as sex objects].'"
- "Awake" 3/22/90 p29

"Since 1985, scores of pedophilia cases involving priests or brothers have been recorded throughout America and Canada. These changes have arrived amid a number of reports that as many as 10 to 20 percent of U.S. priests may be homosexually active."
- "Awake" 12/8/90 p31



What, then, of secular organizations? How do other groups view the association between homosexuals and pedophiles? Do they believe they are one and the same? The Boy Scouts of America seem to think so. They have banned homosexuals from any participation in their organization, believing homosexuals in their midst will place teen and pre-teen members at high risk of molestation. On the "Eagle Scout Rally for Family Foundation" web site, it states: "In fact, a study sponsored by the National Institute of Mental Health has shown that men who have sex with men exhibit a high propensity to molest young boys." (Author's Note: A complete search of the NIMH website yielded no mention whatsoever of any such study, and we believe this statement to be inaccurate.)Another organization, the Family Research Council, had this to say about homosexuality and pedophilia: "The media have tried to insist that pedophilia and homosexuality are different phenomena. Gays have slowly crept into the clergy, bringing with them a propensity toward pedophilia and homosexuality." Is there any legitimacy to this statement? Upon further examination, one finds that the Family Research Council is a virulently homophobic organization, with a strong anti-homosexual agenda. The reliability of statements made by such an organization are questionable. There are, however, more reliable sources in this area of study. The following are statements made by noted professionals in the field of research and study of pedophilia:





"Mental health professionals agree that pedophilia should never be considered normal, because it is truly a disease. None of the things that make homosexuality a normal variation of human sexuality apply to pedophilia."
- Martin Downs, WebMD Medical News "There is no medical evidence to suggest an association between homosexuality and impaired moral judgment."
- Journal of the American Medical Association - Pediatric Forum, March 2001

"It is ludicrous to identify pedophiles as homosexuals."
- Stan Robson, Chief Deputy, Benton County Sheriffs Department
(In over 14 years of Robson's work with pedophiles, 498 out of 500 offenders identified themselves as heterosexual.)

"The vast majority of offenders are heterosexual men. Male offenders who abuse young boys maintain adult heterosexual relationships. The habitual molester of boys is rarely attracted to adult males."
- Roland Summit, M.D. Head Physician, Community Consultation Service, Harbor UCLA Medical Center.

"The belief that homosexuals are particularly attracted to children is completely unsupported by our data. The child offenders who engaged in adult relationships as well, were heterosexuals. There were no homosexual adult oriented offenders in our samples who turned to children."
- A. Nicholas Groth, Ph.D., Director of the Sex Offender Program, Connecticut Department of Corrections, and Co-Director of the St. Joseph College Institute for the Treatment and Control of Child Sexual Abuse



Additionally, in their article entitled "Facts About Homosexuality and Child Molestation", the U.C. Davis Psychology Department concludes:



"The empirical research does not show that gay or bisexual men are any more likely than heterosexual men to molest children. This is not to argue that homosexual and bisexual men never molest children. But there is no scientific basis for asserting that they are more likely than heterosexual men to do so. And, as explained above, many child molesters cannot be characterized as having an adult sexual orientation at all; they are fixated on children."

The above statements from experts in the field speak volumes about the inaccurate and misleading statements made by the Watchtower Society, as well as other religious and secular organizations, trying to equate homosexuals with pedophiles. In fact, one need look no farther than one's own dictionary to discover the difference between the two:

ped·o·phil·i·a - n.: a mental disorder which belongs to a larger group known as the paraphilias. In pedophilia, carnal lust is disconnected from adult "romantic love."
ped·o·phile - n.: an adult who actively fantasizes about, or engages in sexual activities with prepubescent children.
ho·mo·sex·u·al·i·ty - n.: a sexual attraction to (or sexual relations with) persons of the same sex
ho·mo·sex·u·al - adj.: Of, relating to, or having a sexual orientation to persons of the same sex.

Note that pedophilia is characterized by mental illness, while no mention of psychological disturbance is made in the dictionary definition of the homosexual. As noted above, the vast majority of pedophiles who molest children of the same sex are either actively involved in adult heterosexual relationships, or are incapable of adult sexual relationships of any sort. This is not to say that there are no pedophiles who are homosexual. However, to make the blanket statement that all homosexuals have a propensity towards pedophilia is false, misleading, and damaging to the gay community. The fact that homosexuality has nothing whatsoever to do with pedophilia was also recognized in the U.S. Federal Court system. In the United States Court of Appeals, Sixth Circuit, in the case of Equality Foundation of Greater Cincinnati, Inc. vs. City of Cincinnati, a bench trial was held where the judge made the following findings:



§ Sexual orientation is a characteristic which exists separately and independently from sexual conduct or behavior.
§ Sexual orientation bears no relation to an individual's ability to perform, contribute to, or participate in, society.
§ There is no correlation between homosexuality and pedophilia. Homosexuality is not indicative of a tendency towards child molestation.
§ Homosexuality is not a mental illness.

It is our hope that those reading this essay will develop a better understanding of the fact that most gay men and lesbians are fully capable of long-term same-sex loving relationships, and are not the sexual predators we have been mistakenly pictured as for so long.

[Nynorsk]

En dit is het artikel van Davis dat Peace in een vorige discussie compleet genegeerd heeft:



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Members of disliked minority groups are often stereotyped as representing a danger to the majority society's most vulnerable members. Historically, Black men in the United States were often falsely accused of raping White women, and commonly lynched as a result. Jews in the Middle Ages were accused of murdering Christian babies in ritual sacrifices. In a similar fashion, gay people have often been portrayed as a threat to children. When Anita Bryant campaigned successfully in 1977 to repeal a Dade County (FL) ordinance prohibiting anti-gay discrimination, she named her organization "Save Our Children," and warned that "a particularly deviant-minded [gay] teacher could sexually molest children" (Bryant, 1977, p. 114). [Bibliographic references are on a different web page]

In recent years, antigay activists have routinely asserted that gay people are child molesters. This argument was often made in debates about the Boy Scouts of America's policy to exclude gay scouts and scoutmasters. It has also been raised in connection with recent scandals about the Catholic church's attempts to cover up the abuse of young males by priests. Indeed, the Vatican's early response to the 2002 revelations of widespread Church cover-ups of sexual abuse by priests was to declare that gay men should not be ordained.


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The number of Americans who believe the myth that gay people are child molesters has declined substantially. In a 1970 national survey, more than 70% of respondents agreed with the assertions that "Homosexuals are dangerous as teachers or youth leaders because they try to get sexually involved with children" or that "Homosexuals try to play sexually with children if they cannot get an adult partner."1 By contrast, in a 1999 national poll, the belief that most gay men are likely to molest or abuse children was endorsed by only 19% of heterosexual men and 10% of heterosexual women. Even fewer – 9% of men and 6% of women – regarded most lesbians as child molesters.

Consistent with these findings, Gallup polls have found that an increasing number of Americans would allow gay people to be elementary school teachers. For example, the proportion was 61% in 2003, compared to 27% in 1977.


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Even though most Americans don't regard gay people as child molesters, confusion remains widespread in this area. To understand the facts, it is important to examine the results of scientific research. However, when we evaluate research on child molestation, our task is complicated by several problems. One problem is that we do not know to what extent the samples used in research studies are representative of all child molesters. Most studies in this area have been conducted only with convicted perpetrators or with pedophiles who sought professional help. Consequently, they may not accurately describe child molesters who have never been caught or have not sought treatment.


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A second problem is that the terminology used in this area is often confusing and can even be misleading. We can begin to address that problem by defining some basic terms. Pedophilia and child molestation are used in a variety of ways, even by professionals. Pedophilia usually refers to an adult psychosexual disorder characterized by a preference for prepubescent children as sexual partners; this preference may or may not be acted upon. The term hebephilia is sometimes used to describe adult sexual attractions to adolescents and children who have reached puberty.

Whereas pedophilia and hebephilia refer to psychological propensities, child molestation and child sexual abuse are used to describe actual sexual contact between an adult and someone who has not reached the legal age of consent. In this context, someone who has not reached the age of consent is referred to as a child, even though he or she may be a teenager.

Although the terms are not always used consistently, it is useful to distinguish between pedophiles/hebephiles and child molesters/abusers. Pedophilia and hebephilia are diagnostic labels. Not all pedophiles and hebephiles actually molest children; an adult can be attracted to children or adolescents without ever actually engaging in sexual contact with them.

Child molestation and child sexual abuse refer to actions, and don't imply a particular psychological makeup or motive on the part of the perpetrator. Not all incidents of child sexual abuse are perpetrated by pedophiles or hebephiles; in some cases, the perpetrator has other motives for his or her actions and does not manifest an ongoing pattern of sexual attraction to children.

Thus, not all child sexual abuse is perpetrated by pedophiles (or hebephiles) and not all pedophiles and hebephiles actually commit abuse. Consequently, it is important to choose one's terms carefully.

Another problem related to terminology arises because sexual abuse of male children by adult men2 is often referred to as "homosexual molestation." The adjective "homosexual" (or "heterosexual" when a man abuses a female child) refers to the victim's gender in relation to that of the perpetrator. Unfortunately, people sometimes mistakenly interpret it as referring to the perpetrator's sexual orientation.

To avoid this confusion, it is preferable to refer to men's sexual abuse of boys with the more accurate label of male-male molestation. Similarly, it is preferable to refer to men's abuse of girls as male-female molestation. These labels are more accurate because they describe the sex of the individuals involved but don't convey implicit assumptions about the perpetrator's sexual orientation.


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The distinction between gender of victim and sexual orientation of perpetrator is important because many child molesters don't really have an adult sexual orientation. They have never developed the capacity for mature sexual relationships with other adults, either men or women. Over the years, this fact has been incorporated into various schemes for categorizing child molesters. For example, Finkelhor and Araji (1986) proposed that perpetrators' sexual attractions should be conceptualized as ranging along a continuum with exclusive interest in children at one extreme, and exclusive interest in adult partners at the other end.

Typologies of offenders have often included a distinction between those with an enduring primary preference for children as sexual partners and those who have established age-appropriate relationships but who become sexually involved with children under unusual circumstances of extreme stress. Perpetrators in the first category – those with a more or less exclusive interest in children – have often been labeled fixated. Fixation means "a temporary or permanent arrestment of psychological maturation resulting from unresolved formative issues which persist and underlie the organization of subsequent phases of development" (Groth & Birnbaum, 1978, p. 176). Many clinicians view fixated offenders as being "stuck" at an early stage of psychological development.

By contrast, other molesters are described as regressed. Regression is "a temporary or permanent appearance of primitive behavior after more mature forms of expression had been attained, regardless of whether the immature behavior was actually manifested earlier in the individual's development" (Groth & Birnbaum, 1978, p. 177). Regressed offenders have developed an adult sexual orientation but under certain conditions (such as extreme stress) they return to an earlier, less mature psychological state and engage in sexual contact with children.

Some typologies of child molesters break the fixation-regression distinction into multiple categories, and some include additional categories as well (e.g., Knight, 1989). For the present discussion, the important point is that many child molesters cannot be meaningfully described as homosexuals, heterosexuals, or bisexuals because they are not really capable of a relationship with an adult man or woman. Instead of gender, their sexual attractions are based primarily on age. These individuals – who are often characterized as fixated – are attracted to children, not to men or women.

Using the fixated-regressed distinction, Groth and Birnbaum (1978) studied 175 adult males who were convicted in Massachusetts of sexual assault against a child. None of the men had an exclusively homosexual adult sexual orientation. 83 (47%) were classified as "fixated;" 70 others (40%) were classified as regressed adult heterosexuals; the remaining 22 (13%) were classified as regressed adult bisexuals. Of the last group, Groth and Birnbaum observed that "in their adult relationships they engaged in sex on occasion with men as well as with women. However, in no case did this attraction to men exceed their preference for women....There were no men who were primarily sexually attracted to other adult males..." (p.180).


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Other researchers have taken different approaches, but have similarly failed to find a connection between homosexuality and child molestation. Dr. Carole Jenny reviewed 352 medical charts, representing all of the sexually abused children seen in the emergency room or child abuse clinic of a Denver children's hospital during a one-year period (from July 1, 1991 to June 30, 1992). The molester was a gay or lesbian adult in only 2 of the 269 cases in which an adult molester could be identified – fewer than 1% (Jenny et al., 1994). In yet another approach to studying adult sexual attraction to children, some Canadian researchers observed how homosexual and heterosexual adult men responded to slides of males and females of various ages (child, pubescent, and mature adult). All of the research subjects were first screened to ensure that they preferred physically mature sexual partners. In some of the slides shown to subjects, the model was clothed; in others, he or she was nude. The slides were accompanied by audio recordings. The recordings paired with the nude models described an imaginary sexual interaction between the model and the subject. The recordings paired with the pictures of clothed models described the model engaging in neutral activities (e.g., swimming). To measure sexual arousal, changes in the subjects' penis volume were monitored while they watched the slides and listened to the audiotapes. The researchers found that homosexual males responded no more to male children than heterosexual males responded to female children (Freund et al., 1989).

Science cannot prove a negative. Thus, these studies do not prove that homosexual or bisexual males are no more likely than heterosexual males to molest children. However, each of them failed to prove the alternative hypothesis that homosexual males are more likely than heterosexual men to molest children or to be sexually attracted to children or adolescents.


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Reflecting the results of these and other studies, the mainstream view among researchers and professionals who work in the area of child sexual abuse is that homosexual and bisexual men do not pose any special threat to children. For example, in one review of the scientific literature, noted authority Dr. A. Nicholas Groth wrote:

Are homosexual adults in general sexually attracted to children and are preadolescent children at greater risk of molestation from homosexual adults than from heterosexual adults? There is no reason to believe so. The research to date all points to there being no significant relationship between a homosexual lifestyle and child molestation. There appears to be practically no reportage of sexual molestation of girls by lesbian adults, and the adult male who sexually molests young boys is not likely to be homosexual (Groth & Gary, 1982, p. 147).

In a more recent literature review, Dr. Nathaniel McConaghy (1998) similarly cautioned against confusing homosexuality with pedophilia. He noted, "The man who offends against prepubertal or immediately postpubertal boys is typically not sexually interested in older men or in women" (p. 259).


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In the recent scandal involving the Catholic church, some Church officials have tried to link sexual abuse with gay priests, arguing that the victims were often adolescent boys rather than small children. Here is an example where the term pedophilia – referring as it does to attractions to prepubescent children – can cause confusion. More broadly, such accusations against gay priests raise the question of whether gay men or lesbians should not be trusted in positions of authority where there is any possibility of sexual abuse or harassment. Scientific research provides no evidence that homosexual people are less likely than heterosexuals to exercise good judgment and appropriate discretion in their employment settings. There are no data, for example, showing that gay men and lesbians are more likely than heterosexual men and women to sexually harass their subordinates in the workplace. Data from studies using a variety of psychological measures do not indicate that gay people are more likely than heterosexuals to possess any psychological characteristics that would make them less capable of controlling their sexual urges, refraining from the abuse of power, obeying rules and laws, interacting effectively with others, or exercising good judgment in handling authority. As explained elsewhere on this site, sexual orientation is not a mental illness nor is it inherently associated with impaired psychological functioning.

Gay men and lesbians function effectively in a wide variety of employment settings. No differences have been reported between heterosexuals, bisexuals, and homosexuals in job performance or ability to properly exercise authority in supervisory roles. As indicated by workplace policies around the United States, a large and growing number of private and public employers do not perceive a problem with hiring gay and bisexual people as employees or managers. A large number of corporations, educational institutions, and local governments have adopted policies that prohibit discrimination against employees on the basis of sexual orientation. In many cases, those organizations give employee benefits such as health insurance to employees' same-sex partners. Indeed, one reason often cited for providing such benefits is that they enable a company to remain competitive by attracting high quality employees who happen to be homosexual or bisexual.

Thus, the scientific literature does not provide any basis for organizations to avoid hiring homosexual or bisexual people, simply on the basis of their sexual orientation, for positions that involve responsibility for or supervision of others, whether children, adolescents, or adults.


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One individual has claimed to have data that prove homosexuals to be child molesters at a higher rate than heterosexuals. That person is Paul Cameron. As detailed elsewhere on this site, Cameron's survey data are subject to so many methodological flaws as to be virtually meaningless. Even so, his assertions are often quoted by antigay organizations in their attempts to link homosexuality with child sexual abuse.

In a 1985 article published in Psychological Reports, Paul Cameron purported to review published data to answer the question, "Do those who commit homosexual acts disproportionately incorporate children into their sexual practices?" (p. 1227). He concluded that "at least one-third of the sexual attacks upon youth are homosexual" (p. 1228) and that "those who are bi- to homosexual are proportionately much more apt to molest youth" than are heterosexuals (p. 1231).

Cameron's claims hinge on the incorrect assumption that all male-male molestations are committed by homosexuals. Moreover, a careful reading of Cameron's paper reveals several false statements about the literature he claimed to have reviewed.

For example, he cited the Groth and Birnbaum (1978) study mentioned previously as evidencing a 3:2 ratio of "heterosexual" (i.e., female victim) to "homosexual" (i.e., male victim) molestations, and he noted that "54% of all the molestations in this study were performed by bisexual or homosexual practitioners" (p. 1231). However, Groth and Birnbaum reported that none of the men in their sample had an exclusively homosexual adult sexual orientation, and that none of the 22 bisexual men were more attracted to adult males than to adult females. The "54%" statistic reported by Cameron doesn't appear anywhere in the Groth and Birnbaum (1978) article, nor does Cameron explain its derivation.

It also is noteworthy that, although Cameron assumed that the perpetrators of male-male molestations were all homosexual, he assumed that not all male-female molestations were committed by heterosexuals. He incorporated a "bisexual correction" into his data manipulations to increase further his estimate of the risk posed to children by homosexual/bisexual men.

In the latter half of his paper, Cameron considered whether "homosexual teachers have more frequent sexual interaction with their pupils" (p. 1231). Based on 30 instances of sexual contact between a teacher and pupil reported in ten different sources published between 1920 and 1982, Cameron concluded that "a pupil would appear about 90 times more likely to be sexually assaulted by a homosexual practitioner" (p. 1232); the ratio rose to 100 times when Cameron added his bisexual correction.

This ratio is meaningless because no data were obtained concerning the actual sexual orientation of the teachers involved; as before, Cameron assumed that male-male contacts were perpetrated by homosexuals. Furthermore, Cameron's rationale for selecting particular sources appears to have been completely arbitrary. He described no systematic method for reviewing the literature, and apparently never reviewed the voluminous literature on the sexual development of children and adolescents. His final choice of sources appears to have slanted his findings toward what Cameron described as "the relative absence in the scientific literature of heterosexual teacher-pupil sexual events coupled with persistent, albeit infrequent, homosexual teacher-pupil sexual interactions" (p. 1232).

A subsequent paper by Cameron and others (Cameron, Proctor, Coburn, Forde, Larson, & Cameron, 1986) described data collected in a door-to-door survey in seven U.S. cities and towns, and generally repeated the conclusions reached in Cameron (1985). As before, male-male sexual assaults were referred to as "homosexual" molestations (e.g., Abstract, p.327) and the perpetrators' sexual orientation apparently was not assessed. This study also suffers from severe methodological problems (Brown & Cole, 1985). These problems are discussed in detail elsewhere on this site.

In summary, the findings reported in the papers by Cameron et al. cannot be considered valid. The work is too methodologically flawed.


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The empirical research does not show that gay or bisexual men are any more likely than heterosexual men to molest children. This is not to argue that homosexual and bisexual men never molest children. But there is no scientific basis for asserting that they are more likely than heterosexual men to do so. And, as explained above, many child molesters cannot be characterized as having an adult sexual orientation at all; they are fixated on children.


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1. The survey was conducted under the auspices of the Kinsey Institute (Klassen, Williams, & Levitt, 1989). (return to text)
2. Sexual abuse by women occurs but has not been well documented. It has most often been documented in cases of a female accomplice assisting a male perpetrator in procuring victims, or an adult woman seducing a young male (Erickson, Walbek, & Seely, 1988; Finkelhor, 1984; Johnson & Shrier, 1987). Perhaps it is not surprising, therefore, that the child molester stereotype is applied more often to gay men than to lesbians. (return to text)


Nota:
De tekst is geschreven door Prof. Dr.G. M. Herek:


Gregory M. Herek is a Professor of Psychology at the University of California at Davis (UCD). He received his Ph.D. in social psychology from UCD in 1983, then was a postdoctoral fellow at Yale University. He subsequently served as a faculty member at Yale and the Graduate Center of the City University of New York before returning to UCD.

[Nynorsk]

Meer heb ik daar echt niet meer bij te vermelden. Wie toegang heeft tot Web of Science moet zelf maar eens kijken wat er te vinden is aan evidentie voor de link tussen homoseksualiteit en pedofilie. Zoek maar lang, lang, en héél hard, 't zal moeilijk worden om die te vinden. Heb je geen toegang tot Web of Science, stap dan eens een universiteitsbibliotheek binnen en zoek het daar op.

Kijk, ik kan hier pagina's gaan volschrijven over het feit dat ik er sterk in geoof dat water een uiterst brandbaar product is. Ik kan dat zelfs staven met m'n eigen ervaring: ik heb al eens gezien hoe water gewoon in de fik vloog!
Dat lijkt me echter belachelijk, maar helaas even belachelijk als sommigen op dit forum proberen doen.

Geen grote fan van homoseksualiteit? Mij prima! Liever geen homo's als vrienden? Prima, kies zelf maar wat je vrienden zijn. Maar op een openbaar forum een hele groep mensen in een negatief daglicht proberen stellen met LEUGENS waarvan je zelf weet dat het leugens zijn, is gewoon ziekelijk.

Peace is daar de nummer één in. In een ander topic verdraaide hij zelfs onderzoeksgegevens om tot z'n eigen conclusie te kunnen komen.

[Raf]

En toen zwegen Pies et tutti quanti in alle talen...

[Nynorsk]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Nynorsk

En dit is het artikel van Davis dat Peace in een vorige discussie compleet genegeerd heeft:

'Davis' moet 'Herek' zijn. Sorry - kan het niet meer aanpassen.
Maar doet geen afbreuk aan de inhoud.

Misschien kan Pies deze keer wel reageren? Of is't te moeilijk?

[giserke]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door bartje

Wat dan met éénoudergezinnen etc. etc. etc.

Uit cijfers blijkt, dat ook deze meer kans maken op sociale nadelige gevolgen.
maar die 1 oudergezinnen hebben daar meestal niet voor gekozen hé!!!


voor de rest mogen homo's voor mij huwen. k'heb daar niks tegen.

[Raf]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door giserke

Uit cijfers blijkt, dat ook deze meer kans maken op sociale nadelige gevolgen.

Welke cijfers?

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door giserke

maar die 1 oudergezinnen hebben daar meestal niet voor gekozen hé!!!

Ah nee? Werd dat boven hun hoofd beslist misschien?

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door giserke

voor de rest mogen homo's voor mij huwen. k'heb daar niks tegen.

Dank je, je bent veel te goed voor deze wereld.

[Tommy_]

Er is nog geen eensgezindheid onder de psychologen en psychiaters op dit onderwerp, er is echter een tendens die negatief hier tegenover staat maar concreet kan men niets met zekerheid zeggen.

[Raf]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Tommy_

Er is nog geen eensgezindheid onder de psychologen en psychiaters op dit onderwerp, er is echter een tendens die negatief hier tegenover staat maar concreet kan men niets met zekerheid zeggen.

Bron?

[Tommy_]

Mijn persoonlijke kringen (psychiatrie)

[voicelesscharlie]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Tommy_

Er is nog geen eensgezindheid onder de psychologen en psychiaters op dit onderwerp, er is echter een tendens die negatief hier tegenover staat maar concreet kan men niets met zekerheid zeggen.

Ach ja,troost u,nog even en alle heteros en autochtonen zijn abnormaal.
Bovendien zijn er veel psychiaters die zelf iets mankeren.
Psychiaters zijn de pastoors van de moderne tijd.

[Tommy_]

Wat homo's moeten verstaan is dat zij de uitzondering en de afwijking zijn van de normale gang van zaken. Indien zij dat niet inzien zijn ze fout bezig en blind.

[Raf]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Tommy_

Mijn persoonlijke kringen (psychiatrie)

[Raf]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Tommy_

Wat homo's moeten verstaan is dat zij de uitzondering en de afwijking zijn van de normale gang van zaken. Indien zij dat niet inzien zijn ze fout bezig en blind.

Nee hoor, dat zijn ze helemaal niet. Een "minderheid" is niet noodzakelijk "afwijkend"; denk bijvoorbeeld maar aan linkshandigen, die ook een minderheid zijn ten opzichte van rechtshandigen. Er zal niemand het in zijn hoofd halen om tegen linkshandigen te zeggen dat ze een "afwijking" hebben.

[Tommy_]

Lach maar zoveel je wil, zeg nu eens waarom zouden homo's kinderen mogen adopteren?

[Raf]

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Lach maar zoveel je wil, zeg nu eens waarom zouden homo's kinderen mogen adopteren?

Omdat er geen enkele valabele reden is waarom ze het niet zouden mogen. De miljoenen kinderen die NU ook al dor holebi-paren opgevoed worden zijn daar het zuiverste bewijs van.

[Tommy_]

een linkshandige kan zoals een rechthandige schrijven. Eeen homo kan geen kinderen krijgen op een natuurlijke manier zoals hetero's, het is afwijkend.

[Raf]

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een linkshandige kan zoals een rechthandige schrijven. Eeen homo kan geen kinderen krijgen op een natuurlijke manier zoals hetero's, het is afwijkend.

Nee, een linkshandige kan NIET zoals een rechtshandige schrijven: hij schrijft met zijn linkerhand, terwijl een rechtshandige met zijn rechterhand schrijft. Daar moet je niet voor gestudeerd hebben om DAT te snappen...

Verder kunnen homo's best wel op natuurlijke wijze kinderen verwekken; dat doet hier dus niet terzake.

[Musketo]

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een linkshandige kan zoals een rechthandige schrijven. Eeen homo kan geen kinderen krijgen op een natuurlijke manier zoals hetero's, het is afwijkend.

Het is vandaag zondag, ik ga niet naar school, ik spijbel...

[Tommy_]

Dus 2 mannen/vrouwen kunnen op een natuurlijke wijze kinderen krijgen ook goed. Een linkshandige kan op een blad dezelfde tekst schrijven al een rechtshandige, het eindresultaat is hetzelfde. Er is geen gelijkenis met dit te vergelijken met homo's als afwijking.