De grote 9/11 topic

[illwill]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Zeikstraal

Geen idee, kwas er niet bij.. Beide zeer verdacht. Het zou me niet verbazen dat het medegeorganiseerd was. Er dient nog veel uitgelegd te worden. Binnen een 30 jaar zullen we het weer weten zeker

Medegeorganizeerd.
Dus terroristen die de VS haten hebben meegewerkt met Bush en co welke hun haten zodat achteraf de VS de teroristen hun land kan binnenvallen?
Dat is het beste wat ik al in jaren heb gehoord.

[Zeikstraal]

Ja, alles erover weet ik niet, maar het is duidelijk dat ze er meer van wisten, sporen wilden uitwissen. Ze het meegeorgainseerd hebben perhaps, laat een leider daar hen wat maagden beloven voor het goede doel. Ze hebben Afghanistan ook bewapend en Bin Laden was naar verluid CIA agent, indien niet, hij word niet eens beschuldigd van de misdaden op 9/11.

Graag antwoorden en bedenkingen op volgende vragen:

9/11 Panel Suspected Deception by Pentagon

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...080101300.html

Former Sen. Max Cleland blasts Bush's "Nixonian" stonewalling of the 9/11 commission, his "lies" about Iraq, and his flight-suit photo op on the USS Lincoln after "hiding out" during Vietnam.

“It is a national scandal. This investigation is now compromised. One of these days we will have to get the full story because the 9/11 issue is so important to America. But this White House wants to cover it up.”

http://dir.salon.com/story/news/feat...ndex.html?pn=1


Plans For Iraq Attack Began On 9/11 2001

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/...in520830.shtml

Hoe alles al uitgetekend was voor 9/11 door niemand minder dan u raad mensen als Dick Cheney hemzelve. We leven zen blueprint. Wat kwam 9/11 toch goed uit

The building of Pax Americana has become possible, claims "RAD," because the fall of the Soviet Union gave the United States status as the world's preeminent superpower. Consequently the US must now work hard, not only to maintain that position, but to spread its military might into geographic areas that are ideologically opposed to its influence, waging "multiple simultaneous large-scale wars" to subdue countries that may stand in the way of US global preeminence. Rationales offered for going to war with other nations are the preservation of the "American peace" and the spread of "democracy."

4 belangrijke punten

"Homeland Defense. . . . the United States . . . must counteract the effects of the proliferation of ballistic missiles and weapons of mass destruction that may soon allow lesser states to deter US military action by threatening US allies and the American homeland itself. Of all the new and current missions for US armed forces, this must have priority.

"Large Wars. Second, the United States must retain sufficient forces able to rapidly deploy and win multiple simultaneous large-scale wars and also to be able to respond to unanticipated contingencies in regions where it does not maintain forward-based forces.

"Constabulary Duties. Third, the Pentagon must retain forces to preserve the current peace in ways that fall short of conducting major theater campaigns. . . . These duties are today's most frequent missions, requiring forces configured for combat but capable of long-term, independent constabulary operations.

"Transform US Armed Forces. Finally, the Pentagon must begin now to exploit the so-called 'revolution in military affairs,' sparked by the introduction of advanced technologies into military systems; this must be regarded as a separate and critical mission worthy of a share of force structure and defense budgets" (p. 6).

". . . the failure to provide sufficient forces to execute these four missions must result in problems for American strategy. And the failure to prepare for tomorrow's challenges will ensure that the current Pax Americana comes to an early end" (p. 13).

http://www.newamericancentury.org/Re...asDefenses.pdf

The following is a quote from Mayor Giuliani during an interview on 9/11 with Peter Jennings for ABC News. “I went down to the scene and we set up headquarters at 75 Barkley Street, which was right there with the Police Commissioner, the Fire Commissioner, the Head of Emergency Management, and we were operating out of there when we were told that the World Trade Center was going to collapse. And it did collapse before we could actually get out of the building, so we were trapped in the building for 10, 15 minutes, and finally found an exit and got out, walked north, and took a lot of people with us.”

WHO TOLD HIM THIS??? To this day, the answer to this question remains unanswered, completely ignored and emphatically DENIED by Mayor Giuliani on several public occasions.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vCg8Fp8aw8

http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHART..._giuliani.html

On September 12th 2007, CNN’s ‘Anderson Cooper 360′, reported that the mysterious “white plane” spotted and videotaped by multiple media outlets, flying in restricted airspace over the White House shortly before 10am on the morning of 9/11, was in fact the Air Force’s E-4B, a specially modified Boeing 747 with a communications pod behind the cockpit; otherwise known as “The Doomsday Plane”.

Though fully aware of the event, the 9/11 Commission did not deem the appearance of the military plane to be of any interest and did not include it in the final 9/11 Commission report.

http://rawstory.com/news/2007/CNN_in...lane_0913.html

Flight 93 is fourth plane to crash on 9/11 at 10:03am. Cheney only gives shoot down order at 10:10-10:20am and this is not communicated to NORAD until 28 minutes after Flight 93 has crashed.

"A shootdown authorization was not communicated to the NORAD air defense sector until 28 minutes after United 93 had crashed in Pennsylvania. Planes were scrambled, but ineffectively, as they did not know where to go or what targets they were to intercept. And once the shootdown order was given, it was not communicated to the pilots. In short, while leaders in Washington believed that the fighters circling above them had been instructed to "take out" hostile aircraft, the only orders actually conveyed to the pilots were to "ID type and tail."

http://www.9-11commission.gov/report/911Report_Exec.htm

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2004Jun17.html

Scores of main stream news outlets reported that the F.B.I. conducted an investigation of at least FIVE of the 9/11 hijackers being trained at U.S. military flight schools. Those investigations are now sealed and need to be declassified. Why?

http://www.newsweek.com/id/75797

http://www.nytimes.com/2002/05/18/us...-training.html

http://www.greenspun.com/bboard/q-an...?msg_id=008z7U

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/2121480.stm

9/11 "black box" cover-up at Ground Zero?

http://www.pnionline.com/dnblog/extr...es/001139.html

New NEWS - BBC Video - WTC 7 - Prior Knowledge

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1LetB0z8_o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNK1V6S2cbo

What is the meaning behind the following quote attributed to Dick Cheney which came to light during the 9/11 Commission hearings? The passage is taken from testimony given by Secretary of Transportation Norman Mineta.

During the time that the airplane was coming in to the Pentagon, there was a young man who would come in and say to the Vice President, "The plane is 50 miles out." "The plane is 30 miles out." And when it got down to "the plane is 10 miles out," the young man also said to the Vice President, "Do the orders still stand?" And the Vice President turned and whipped his neck around and said, "Of course the orders still stand. Have you heard anything to the contrary?"

As the plane was not shot down, in addition to the fact that armed fighter jets were nowhere near the plane and the Pentagon defensive system was not activated., are we to take it that the orders were to let the plane find its target?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDfdOwt2v3Y

In May 2003, the Miami Herald reported how the Bush administration was refusing to release a 900-page congressional report on 9/11 because it wanted to "avoid enshrining embarrassing details in the report," particularly regarding pre-9/11 warnings as well as the fact that the hijackers were trained at U.S. flight schools.

http://www.truthout.org/article/whit...e-sept-11-info

Newsweek twice reported that top Pentagon officials had got a warning of the impending attack on September 10th, and cancelled their flights for the next day. This confirms that these officials knew both the general locations of the attack and the method of using jetliners as bombs.

"On Sept. 10, NEWSWEEK has learned, a group of top Pentagon officials suddenly canceled travel plans for the next morning, apparently because of security concerns."

http://www.newsweek.com/id/76065/output/print

Mayor of San Francisco Willie Brown was set to fly into New York on the morning of September 11. However, he got a call from what he described as his "airport security" late September 10th advising against flying due to a security threat. Pacifica Radio later reported that the source of the warning was Secretary of State Condoleeza Rice.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...2/MN229389.DTL

A few days after the attack, several newspapers reported that a paper passport had been found in the ruins of the WTC.

In August 2004, CNN reported that 9/11 hijacker Ziad Jarrah's visa was found in the remains of Flight 93 which went down in Shanksville, Pennsylvania.

At least a third of the WTC victim's bodies were vaporized and many of the victims of the Pentagon incident were burned beyond recognition. And yet visas and paper passports which identify the perpetrators and back up the official version of events miraculously survive explosions and fires that we are told melted steel buildings.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles...4visafound.htm

http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_ho.../17011253.html

[Zeikstraal]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door illwill

Medegeorganizeerd.
Dus terroristen die de VS haten hebben meegewerkt met Bush en co welke hun haten zodat achteraf de VS de teroristen hun land kan binnenvallen?
Dat is het beste wat ik al in jaren heb gehoord.

Niet met Bush zelf, maar van een cia medewerker in die streek die hen 88 maagden beloofde. Beetje verder denken dan uw neus lang is, voor ge u belachelijk maakt, bedankt bij voorbaat.

[Zeikstraal]

[Zeikstraal]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door illwill

We hebben het niet over de jaren 60 maar 2001.

Simpele ziel, educate urself

[Zeikstraal]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door illwill

Onzin, ga je nu beweren dat de VS de terroristen een vliegtuig hebben latn vliegen tegen het pentagon en dat ze om zeker te zijn ofzo dan ook nog maar een raket op het pentagon hebben afgevuurd.

Als de believers alle bewijzen hebben...hoe komt het dat het plots niet meer duidelijk is? Zijn er brokstukken van een raket of vliegtuig gevonden? Wat ik kan opmaken uit de posts van de believers is het een raket. Dus heeft men de terroristen NIET laten doen want deze zijn hier niet bij betrokken.

Ik heb niets gezegd, u bent de insinuator. Gelieve te stoppen met onzin te spuien en in mijn naam te spreken wat u beter zou uitkomen. Dank u

[Zeikstraal]

De reden dat Operation Northwood er bij word gehaald is relevant, dat zegt genoeg over tot wat ze in staat zijn. En als u ziet hoeveel neonazi's, eugenicists, psychopaten er daar nu nog veel invloed en hoge postjes bekleden.. Ga je dat verwerpen omdat het 40 jaar geleden is en ze er nu plots niet meer toe in staat zouden zijn? Wetende dat sinds dien alle presidenten marionetten waren/zijn. En de voortzetting van het 4de rijk en omverwerpen van alle democratien.

Das wel heel goedgelovig hoor

[eti1777]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door illwill

...

Dat is het beste wat ik al in jaren heb gehoord.

Dan moet je je posts af en toe eens herlezen.
Dagelijks BS.

[Zeikstraal]

George W. Bush caught off guard 9-11 Question

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCvqXXnxLZw

Zulke idioten worden daar geplant, een gekke corrupte cowboy, ideaal om de agenda door te voeren.

[Dixie]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Zeikstraal

Ik heb niets gezegd, u bent de insinuator. Gelieve te stoppen met onzin te spuien en in mijn naam te spreken wat u beter zou uitkomen. Dank u

je nickname past je wel

[Zeikstraal]

Hoe voorspelbaar, iets zinnigs te melden misschien? Niet dacht ik zo, opzouten dus

[illwill]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Zeikstraal

Niet met Bush zelf, maar van een cia medewerker in die streek die hen 88 maagden beloofde. Beetje verder denken dan uw neus lang is, voor ge u belachelijk maakt, bedankt bij voorbaat.

Och hier, weer een nieuwe versie van inside story. Gelieve dit dan ook wat beter te verklaren zodat iedereen kan volgen.
Of is de nieuwe theorie op 2 zinnen samen te vatten?

Ik kan me niet belachelijk maken door vragen te stellen. Geen dank dus.

[illwill]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Zeikstraal

Simpele ziel, educate urself

Nee, we hebben het gewoonweg niet over de jaren 60 maar over 2001.
Hoe persoonlijk je ook zal worden.

[illwill]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Zeikstraal

Ik heb niets gezegd, u bent de insinuator. Gelieve te stoppen met onzin te spuien en in mijn naam te spreken wat u beter zou uitkomen. Dank u

Ah, heb ik gezegd medegeorganizeerd dan?

[illwill]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door eti1777

Dan moet je je posts af en toe eens herlezen.
Dagelijks BS.

Bwahaa. Lang over gedaan? Echt een goei!!!

[illwill]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Zeikstraal

Hoe voorspelbaar, iets zinnigs te melden misschien? Niet dacht ik zo, opzouten dus

En hupla, ze worden weer eens in het nauw gedreven en dan ga het sneller en sneller de persoonlijke kant op.

Als jullie ooit willen dat mensen jullie geloven zul je met duidelijke antwoorden moeten komen.
Je hebt genoeg tijd gehad om de bronnen te geven zodat na te checken is dat het om de juiste vluchtgegevens gaat. Je doet dit niet.
Dus dit is wederom een fabeltje dat op de stapel komt.

[Zeikstraal]

Ipv te neuten, ik herhaal

Graag antwoorden en bedenkingen op volgende vragen:

9/11 Panel Suspected Deception by Pentagon

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...080101300.html

Former Sen. Max Cleland blasts Bush's "Nixonian" stonewalling of the 9/11 commission, his "lies" about Iraq, and his flight-suit photo op on the USS Lincoln after "hiding out" during Vietnam.

“It is a national scandal. This investigation is now compromised. One of these days we will have to get the full story because the 9/11 issue is so important to America. But this White House wants to cover it up.”

http://dir.salon.com/story/news/feat...ndex.html?pn=1


Plans For Iraq Attack Began On 9/11 2001

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/...in520830.shtml

Hoe alles al uitgetekend was voor 9/11 door niemand minder dan u raad mensen als Dick Cheney hemzelve. We leven zen blueprint. Wat kwam 9/11 toch goed uit

The building of Pax Americana has become possible, claims "RAD," because the fall of the Soviet Union gave the United States status as the world's preeminent superpower. Consequently the US must now work hard, not only to maintain that position, but to spread its military might into geographic areas that are ideologically opposed to its influence, waging "multiple simultaneous large-scale wars" to subdue countries that may stand in the way of US global preeminence. Rationales offered for going to war with other nations are the preservation of the "American peace" and the spread of "democracy."

4 belangrijke punten

"Homeland Defense. . . . the United States . . . must counteract the effects of the proliferation of ballistic missiles and weapons of mass destruction that may soon allow lesser states to deter US military action by threatening US allies and the American homeland itself. Of all the new and current missions for US armed forces, this must have priority.

"Large Wars. Second, the United States must retain sufficient forces able to rapidly deploy and win multiple simultaneous large-scale wars and also to be able to respond to unanticipated contingencies in regions where it does not maintain forward-based forces.

"Constabulary Duties. Third, the Pentagon must retain forces to preserve the current peace in ways that fall short of conducting major theater campaigns. . . . These duties are today's most frequent missions, requiring forces configured for combat but capable of long-term, independent constabulary operations.

"Transform US Armed Forces. Finally, the Pentagon must begin now to exploit the so-called 'revolution in military affairs,' sparked by the introduction of advanced technologies into military systems; this must be regarded as a separate and critical mission worthy of a share of force structure and defense budgets" (p. 6).

". . . the failure to provide sufficient forces to execute these four missions must result in problems for American strategy. And the failure to prepare for tomorrow's challenges will ensure that the current Pax Americana comes to an early end" (p. 13).

http://www.newamericancentury.org/Re...asDefenses.pdf

The following is a quote from Mayor Giuliani during an interview on 9/11 with Peter Jennings for ABC News. “I went down to the scene and we set up headquarters at 75 Barkley Street, which was right there with the Police Commissioner, the Fire Commissioner, the Head of Emergency Management, and we were operating out of there when we were told that the World Trade Center was going to collapse. And it did collapse before we could actually get out of the building, so we were trapped in the building for 10, 15 minutes, and finally found an exit and got out, walked north, and took a lot of people with us.”

WHO TOLD HIM THIS??? To this day, the answer to this question remains unanswered, completely ignored and emphatically DENIED by Mayor Giuliani on several public occasions.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vCg8Fp8aw8

http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHART..._giuliani.html

On September 12th 2007, CNN’s ‘Anderson Cooper 360′, reported that the mysterious “white plane” spotted and videotaped by multiple media outlets, flying in restricted airspace over the White House shortly before 10am on the morning of 9/11, was in fact the Air Force’s E-4B, a specially modified Boeing 747 with a communications pod behind the cockpit; otherwise known as “The Doomsday Plane”.

Though fully aware of the event, the 9/11 Commission did not deem the appearance of the military plane to be of any interest and did not include it in the final 9/11 Commission report.

http://rawstory.com/news/2007/CNN_in...lane_0913.html

Flight 93 is fourth plane to crash on 9/11 at 10:03am. Cheney only gives shoot down order at 10:10-10:20am and this is not communicated to NORAD until 28 minutes after Flight 93 has crashed.

"A shootdown authorization was not communicated to the NORAD air defense sector until 28 minutes after United 93 had crashed in Pennsylvania. Planes were scrambled, but ineffectively, as they did not know where to go or what targets they were to intercept. And once the shootdown order was given, it was not communicated to the pilots. In short, while leaders in Washington believed that the fighters circling above them had been instructed to "take out" hostile aircraft, the only orders actually conveyed to the pilots were to "ID type and tail."

http://www.9-11commission.gov/report/911Report_Exec.htm

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2004Jun17.html

Scores of main stream news outlets reported that the F.B.I. conducted an investigation of at least FIVE of the 9/11 hijackers being trained at U.S. military flight schools. Those investigations are now sealed and need to be declassified. Why?

http://www.newsweek.com/id/75797

http://www.nytimes.com/2002/05/18/us...-training.html

http://www.greenspun.com/bboard/q-an...?msg_id=008z7U

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/2121480.stm

9/11 "black box" cover-up at Ground Zero?

http://www.pnionline.com/dnblog/extr...es/001139.html

New NEWS - BBC Video - WTC 7 - Prior Knowledge

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1LetB0z8_o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNK1V6S2cbo

What is the meaning behind the following quote attributed to Dick Cheney which came to light during the 9/11 Commission hearings? The passage is taken from testimony given by Secretary of Transportation Norman Mineta.

During the time that the airplane was coming in to the Pentagon, there was a young man who would come in and say to the Vice President, "The plane is 50 miles out." "The plane is 30 miles out." And when it got down to "the plane is 10 miles out," the young man also said to the Vice President, "Do the orders still stand?" And the Vice President turned and whipped his neck around and said, "Of course the orders still stand. Have you heard anything to the contrary?"

As the plane was not shot down, in addition to the fact that armed fighter jets were nowhere near the plane and the Pentagon defensive system was not activated., are we to take it that the orders were to let the plane find its target?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDfdOwt2v3Y

In May 2003, the Miami Herald reported how the Bush administration was refusing to release a 900-page congressional report on 9/11 because it wanted to "avoid enshrining embarrassing details in the report," particularly regarding pre-9/11 warnings as well as the fact that the hijackers were trained at U.S. flight schools.

http://www.truthout.org/article/whit...e-sept-11-info

Newsweek twice reported that top Pentagon officials had got a warning of the impending attack on September 10th, and cancelled their flights for the next day. This confirms that these officials knew both the general locations of the attack and the method of using jetliners as bombs.

"On Sept. 10, NEWSWEEK has learned, a group of top Pentagon officials suddenly canceled travel plans for the next morning, apparently because of security concerns."

http://www.newsweek.com/id/76065/output/print

Mayor of San Francisco Willie Brown was set to fly into New York on the morning of September 11. However, he got a call from what he described as his "airport security" late September 10th advising against flying due to a security threat. Pacifica Radio later reported that the source of the warning was Secretary of State Condoleeza Rice.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...2/MN229389.DTL

A few days after the attack, several newspapers reported that a paper passport had been found in the ruins of the WTC.

In August 2004, CNN reported that 9/11 hijacker Ziad Jarrah's visa was found in the remains of Flight 93 which went down in Shanksville, Pennsylvania.

At least a third of the WTC victim's bodies were vaporized and many of the victims of the Pentagon incident were burned beyond recognition. And yet visas and paper passports which identify the perpetrators and back up the official version of events miraculously survive explosions and fires that we are told melted steel buildings.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles...4visafound.htm

http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_ho.../17011253.html

[Zeikstraal]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door illwill

En hupla, ze worden weer eens in het nauw gedreven en dan ga het sneller en sneller de persoonlijke kant op.

Juist, ik ben in het nauw gedreven omdat die men nick "toepasselijk" vind. Dat is waar hij mee afkwam als argument op al het voorgaande, kan hij toch beter zen smoel houden?

[Micele]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Zeikstraal

Niet met Bush zelf, maar van een cia medewerker in die streek die hen 88 maagden beloofde. Beetje verder denken dan uw neus lang is, voor ge u belachelijk maakt, bedankt bij voorbaat.

Het zou me helemaal niet verwonderen, dat de geheime militaire cel van de CIA (ook undercover) en de FBI (ook contra spionage) mekaar tegenwerkte ttz het daardoor niet ingreep (aanhouden van gekende (Ref*) 5-6 verdachte terroristen die in de USA waren voor 9/11 waarvan 2 een vliegopleiding gevolgd hadden) en uiteraard het geen preventiemaatregelen wou/kon doorzetten op de luchthavens (domicil watch list) omdat ze mogelijk op een verkeerd pad gebracht werden door dubbelagenten/undercover/contra-spionage... , mss dachten ze eraan om bepaalde spionnen/terroristen niet uit te schakelen, maar ze als contra spionage te benutten...
Wie weet waren ook Arabische dubbelspionnen (ingeslopen bij Israel´s Mossad) mee in het spel betrokken om voor verwarring te zorgen.

http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contra-spionage
Wanneer spionageactiviteiten worden ontdekt is het mogelijk dat de spion wordt aangehouden, maar het kan vaak effectiever en interessanter zijn om hem goed onder controle te houden en zo meer te weten te komen over wat hij weet, met wie hij spreekt, voor wie hij werkt, welke informatie hij zoekt en welke technieken en tactieken hij gebruikt.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_agent
'Double agent' is a counterintelligence term for someone who pretends to spy on a target organization on behalf of a controlling organization, but in fact is loyal to the target organization. Double agents may be agents of the target organization who infiltrate the controlling organization, or may be previously loyal agents of the controlling organization who have been captured and turned by the target; the threat of execution is the most common method of turning a captured agent into a double agent.

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Voor en kort na 9/11 zijn er ook opvallende dingen gebeurd: (bekijk de toen gecensurrerde video´s), in elk geval was de Mossad actief om bepaalde Arabieren of Joden.., - ik speculeer : terroristen of potentiële dubbelspionnen - in de USA uit te spioneren.

http://worldcontent.twoday.net/stories/5008695/
Die US-Regierung blockte bisher alles ab, was im zeitlichen Umfeld des 9/11 mit möglichen israelischen Aktivitäten zusammen hing. Fox News musste einen Beitrag wieder aus dem Programm nehmen, der sich damit befasste, der Artikel wurde aus dem Web entfernt (Archivierte Version hier).

video´s via : http://100777.com/usa/israeli_spyring
Censored: Fox News about Israeli art students. More...

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Mossad zelf speelde trouwens 30 dagen vóór 9/11 de informatie door naar de FBI dat 4 verdachte terroristen (nadien 2 zelfmoordenaars 9/11) iets van plan waren.
In ´t Engels :

who were staying in the US and were presumably planning to launch an attack in the foreseeable future

2 van de 4 komen niet voor op de lijst van de "19 kapers".

* Ref: sommige offic. bronnen spreken van 6, deze van 5

Washington, DC, September 11, 2001. Early in the morning the five terroristsdrive to Dulles Airport. Police later seize the Toyota and find a receipt for tuition at the Phoenix flight school, four diagrams of a Boeing 757 cockpit, a carpet knife, a map of Washington and slips of paper with notes and phone numbers.

At 7:30 the terrorists check in. Investigators have been searching everywhere for al-Hazmi and al-Midhar for the last 20 days. Despite that, the two pass unhindered through security along with their accomplices. Both the tickets and passports which they presented were in their own names. A few hours later the hijacked planes started infernos in New York and Washington.

al Hamzi en al_Midhar hebben in mei 2000 in San Diego hun bochtenwerk geleerd... , maar er waren ook dikkere vissen of de touwtrekkers...
http://www.antiwar.com/article.php?articleid=2305

Washington, DC January 2001. Both the FBI and the CIA are tracking down the perpetrators of the attack on the USS Cole in Yemen. The CIA conclusively determined that the one-legged bin Atesh was the mastermind of the attack. They consulted the observation report from the meeting in Malaysia. It suggested that the attack on the Cole was decided and planned in Kuala Lumpur. The other participants at the meeting, among them al-Hazmi and al-Midhar, were now under suspicion, at least implicated in the planning of the attack. Although the CIA had enough information to know that al-Midhar possessed a valid visa and that al-Hazmi still had to be in the USA, it didn't raise a red flag with the investigators, and they didn't bother to notify the FBI. The CIA, as the foreign intelligence agency, is forbidden by law from operating inside the US.

Pursuit of terrorists from bin Laden's network was the CIA's top priority."We are at war [with Al Qaeda]," wrote CIA Director George Tenet in an internal memo "I want no resources or people spared in this effort". In February 2001, shortly after Bush's inauguration, the CIA Director, speaking to the Senate Intelligence Committe, explicitly warned of further attacks by the terrorist organization."Osama bin Laden and his global network of lieutenants and associates remain the most immediate and serious threat to US national security". And "As the United States has strengthened security around government buildings and fixed military facilities, terrorists are seeking out 'softer' targets [to guarantee the greatest losses]"

There was still a lot left to be organized. Al-Hazmi was constantly driving around in his old Toyota. He didn't always obey the speed limit. On April 1, 2001 he was caught in a speed trap on I-40 in western Oklahoma. He was stopped by the police and had to show his ID, license and registration. The officer radioed in to see if there was anything on the driver. The police database had nothing. Al-Hazmi got a ticket and kept driving. The fine for speeding was $138. He paid it by mail.

http://www.historycommons.org/contex...01watchlistadd
August 23, 2001: Hijackers Alhazmi and Almihdhar Are Finally Added to Terrorist Watch List

Thanks to the request of Margaret Gillespie, an FBI analyst assigned to the CIA’s Counter Terrorism Center, the CIA sends a cable to the State Department, INS, Customs Service, and FBI requesting that “bin Laden-related individuals” Nawaf Alhazmi, Khalid Almihdhar, Ahmad Hikmat Shakir, and Salah Saeed Mohammed bin Yousaf (an alias for Khallad bin Attash) be put on the terrorism watch list. All four individuals had attended the January 2000 al-Qaeda summit in Malaysia.

Langley, August 23, 2001. The Israeli Mossad intelligence agency handed its American counterpart a list of names of terrorists who were staying in the US and were presumably planning to launch an attack in the foreseeable future. According to documents obtained by Die ZEIT, Mossad agents in the US were in all probability surveilling at least four of the 19 hijackers, among them al-Midhar. The CIA now does what it should have done 18 months earlier. It informs the State Dept., the FBI and the INS.

Ja, weten ze het echt ?

19 kapers:

American Airlines Flight 11
5 Hijackers: Mohamed Atta al Sayed (Egyptian), Waleed al-Shehri (Saudi Arabian), Wail al-Shehri (Saudi Arabian), Abdulaziz al-Omari (Saudi Arabian), Satam al-Suqami (Saudi Arabian).

United Airlines Flight 175
5 Hijackers: Marwan al-Shehhi (from the United Arab Emirates), Fayez Banihammad (from the United Arab Emirates), Mohand al-Shehri (Saudi Arabian), Hamza al-Ghamdi (Saudi Arabian), Ahmed al-Ghamdi (Saudi Arabian).

American Airlines Flight 77
5 Hijackers: Hani Hanjour (Saudi Arabian), Khalid al-Mihdhar (Saudi Arabian), Majed Moqed (Saudi Arabian), Nawaf al-Hazmi (Saudi Arabian), Salem al-Hazmi (Saudi Arabian).

Two hijackers, Hani Hanjour and Majed Moqed were identified by clerks as having bought single, first-class tickets for Flight 77 from Advance Travel Service in Totowa, New Jersey with $1,842.25 in cash

United Airlines Flight 93
4 Hijackers: Ziad Jarrah (Lebanese), Ahmed al-Haznawi (Saudi Arabian), Ahmed al-Nami (Saudi Arabian), Saeed al-Ghamdi (Saudi Arabian).
Passenger Jeremy Glick stated that the hijackers were Arabic-looking, wearing red headbands, carrying knives

Géén Ahmad Hikmat Shakir, and Salah Saeed Mohammed bin Yousaf (an alias for Khallad bin Attash) te vinden...

Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia: Ahmad Hikmat Shakir al-Azzawi, an Iraqi national with connections to the Iraqi embassy and possibly a lieutenant-colonel in Saddam's Fedayyeen, supposedly helped arrange a top-level al-Qaeda meeting attended by Khalid al-Midhar, Nawaf al-Hazmi and his brother Salem al-Hazmi, three of the 9/11 hijackers, and Tawfiz bin Atash, responsible for the USS Cole bombing[citation needed] (see 2000 al-Qaeda Summit). The CIA has concluded that while Shakir al-Azzawi was indeed an Iraqi with connections to the embassy in Malaysia who helped organize the Kuala Lumpur meeting, he is a different person from a Fedayeen officer with a similar name.[75] The Senate Select Committee on Intelligence concluded that in 2002, the "CIA received information that Shakir was not affiliated with al-Qa'ida and had no connections to the IIS [Iraqi Intelligence Service]."[76]

Blijkbaar niet bij de Irakische geheimdienst, wie was zijn baas dan ?

Maar de heel dikke vis "Al-Qaeda leader" Khallad bin Attash was ook niet onder de kapers, logisch ook..., maar heel onlogisch dat er geen red alert 30 dagen vóór 9/11 was.

http://www.historycommons.org/contex...9khalladnovisa
April 3, 1999: Candidate Hijacker Denied US Visa in Yemen
Sarbarz Mohammed / Sam Malkandi. [Source: Public domain via Seattle Post-Intelligencer]Al-Qaeda leader Khallad bin Attash unsuccessfully applies for a US visa in Sana’a, Yemen. His application, which is made under the alias Salah Saeed Mohammed bin Yousaf, is denied because he fails to submit sufficient documentation in support of it. Three actual hijackers obtain US visas in Saudi Arabia on the same day and shortly after (see April 3-7, 1999). [9/11 Commission, 7/24/2004, pp. 492]
Already Known to US Intelligence - Bin Attash is already known to the US intelligence community at this point (see Summer 1999), at least partly because he briefed Mohamed al-Owhali, one of the 1998 African embassy bombers who was captured after the attack, and helped him make a martyrdom video in Pakistan. [Federal Bureau of Investigation, 9/9/1998 ] The US will begin to associate this alias with terrorist activity no later than early 2000, when bin Attash uses it to take a flight with Nawaf Alhazmi and Khalid Almihdhar, who are under US and allied surveillance at that point (see January 8, 2000). However, the alias will not be watchlisted by the US until August 2001 (see August 23, 2001). Apparently, when the US learns the alias is associated with terrorism there is no check of visa application records, and this application and the fact it was made by an al-Qaeda leader will not be discovered until after 9/11 (see After January 8, 2000, After December 16, 2000, and After August 23, 2001).
US Contact - On the application, bin Attash gives his reason for going to the US as getting a new prosthesis for his missing leg, and he says Bothell, Washington State, is his final destination. Bin Attash’s contact in Bothell is a man named Sarbarz Mohammed. [9/11 Commission, 7/24/2004, pp. 155-6, 492] Mohammed contacts a clinic in the area and speaks to bin Attash once on the phone, but bin Attash says the new leg would cost too much and hangs up. Mohammed, who will later change his name to Sam Malkandi, will deny knowing bin Attash was a terrorist and say that he thought he was just helping a friend of a friend. However, he will later admit lying on his green card application and be arrested in 2005. [Seattle Post-Intelligencer, 10/17/2005]

En nu zit Bin Attash in Guantanamo... doodstraf ...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walid_b...ryOfEvidence-4

http://www.defenselink.mil/news/ISN10014.pdf#1
SUMMARY OF EVIDENCE FOR COMBATANT STATUS REVIEW
TRIBUNAL - BIIV 'ATTASH, WALID MUHAMMAD SALIH
3. The following facts support the determination that the detainee is an enemy combatant.
a. On 7 August 1998, near simultaneous truck bombs were detonated at the United States embassies in Nairobi, Kenya, and Dar es Salaam, Tanzania. The explosion at the United States embassy in Nairobi resulted in the death of 2 13 people, including 12 Americans. More than 4,500 people were wounded
[...]
m. [...]

sinds 1998...
Geen woord van 9/11 /2001...

After August 23, 2001: US Intelligence Again Fails to Connect Al-Qaeda Leader to Alias When the US intelligence community watchlists the alias Salah Saeed Mohammed bin Yousaf, which is used by al-Qaeda leader Khallad bin Attash (see August 23, 2001), it fails to realize that “bin Yousaf” is really bin Attash, who is known to be one of the masterminds of the USS Cole bombing (see Late October-Late November 2000 and November 22-December 16, 2000). The CIA knows that both bin Attash and “Salah Saeed Mohammed bin Yousaf” were in Malaysia with 9/11 hijackers Khalid Almihdhar and Nawaf Alhazmi in January 2000 (see January 5-8, 2000, January 8, 2000, and January 4, 2001). Furthermore, the CIA has a photo of bin Attash provided by the Yemeni government, and surveillance photos and video of bin Attash with Alhazmi and Almihdhar at an al-Qaeda summit in Malaysia (see January 5-8, 2000 and Shortly After and January 5, 2000). And when bin Attash applied for a US visa, he used the “bin Yousaf” alias (see April 3, 1999), so presumably a comparison of his photo from that application with other photos would reveal that “bin Yousaf” and bin Attash are one and the same person. However, apparently no check is made for any US visa of “bin Yousaf,” even after he is watchlisted to prevent him from coming into the US, which would require a visa. Had a check been made, it would have been discovered that he applied for a visa at the same time as both Almihdhar and Alhazmi (see April 3-7, 1999), the very people who have been watchlisted together with him. Presumably, discovering that Alhazmi and Almihdhar had applied for US visas with one of the Cole masterminds would have greatly increased the urgency of finding them. [9/11 Commission, 7/24/2004, pp. 538; US Department of Justice, 11/2004, pp. 248, 300-3 ] The US missed other opportunities to learn more about this alias (see After January 8, 2000 and After December 16, 2000).

Incompetentie of met opzet ?

(sorry voor de onduidelijke samenstelling van al dat linken... )

[Micele]

Dit moet ik toch nog eens quoten:

Voor en kort na 9/11 zijn er ook opvallende dingen gebeurd: (bekijk de toen gecensurreerde video´s), in elk geval was de Mossad actief om bepaalde Arabieren of Joden.., - ik speculeer : terroristen of potentiële dubbelspionnen - in de USA uit te spioneren.
EDIT: ik speculeer:
OF wilden ze de CIA en FBI in de cruciale weken/maanden vóór 9/11 in de war brengen met extra kriminele onderzoekingen ?

Bekijk vooral de 4 gecensureerde video´s,
De 2 eerste vooral betreft spionage Israel.
De 2 laatste ook spionage -met Wiretap- en de daarmee verbonden aktief georganiseerde Israelische Criminaliteit in de USA (drugs enz... al 3-4 jaar voor 9/11), 60 - 200 verdachten... waarbij vele ex-militairen...

zit "extreem-rechts Israel" er voor iets tussen ?
Hebben zij er baat bij dat -door ´t lukken van 9/11- Arabische oorlogen zeker plaatsvinden ?

Citaat:
http://worldcontent.twoday.net/stories/5008695/
Die US-Regierung blockte bisher alles ab, was im zeitlichen Umfeld des 9/11 mit möglichen israelischen Aktivitäten zusammen hing. Fox News musste einen Beitrag wieder aus dem Programm nehmen, der sich damit befasste, der Artikel wurde aus dem Web entfernt (Archivierte Version hier).

> 4 video´s via : http://100777.com/usa/israeli_spyring
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