Wat we aldanniet weten over de "Homeland"-missie

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Klinkt erg Amerikaans. Weet iemand wat dit is?

Dank U.

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- Homeland operations: Belgium : about 180 Pers

- Support to the Federal Police in the national anti-terror framework.

http://www.centcom.mil/en/about-cent...-en/belgium-en

Bon. We worden bijgestaan.


Wat omhelst deze "Homeland"-missie?

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Wat omhelst deze "Homeland"-missie?

Google tip: homeland security

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Google tip: homeland security

Ik vond enkel, dit:

http://www.americahelps.net/bPlrKgmRMv/

Wij worden door de Amerikanen geholpen. Maar deze term werd enkel in een nieuwsbericht vernoemd, informatie terzake is vooralsnog schaars.

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Meer:

https://www.cia.gov/library/reports/.../swtandhs.html

US Central Command (USCENTCOM) implemented a collaborative capability through the Joint Worldwide Intelligence Communications System (JWICS) to support the Global War on Terrorism by:

Establishing over 1,600 information work space accounts to increase information sharing.
Enabling the coordination of time-sensitive targeting and collection requirements.
Providing greater situational awareness to USCENTCOM Headquarters, components, supported Combatant Commands, other intelligence organizations, and 43 coalition partners.

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Homeland missie of army doet me hieraan denken :

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'Homeland' is de naam van de militaire operatie in bijstand aan de politiediensten tijdens de terreurdreiging.

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'Homeland' is de naam van de militaire operatie in bijstand aan de politiediensten tijdens de terreurdreiging.

Waarom moet een operatie op Belgisch grondgebied een Engelse benaming aanwenden welke regelrecht naar het Amerikaanse Homeland Security, 911-taferelen en de samenwerking met Centcom in Brussel verwijst?

Erger nog, we weten niets van de opzet van deze missie noch welke instructies men heeft. Niemand weet het, deze term werd slechts één maal vernoemd door onze legerchef.

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Waarom moet een operatie op Belgisch grondgebied een Engelse benaming aanwenden welke regelrecht naar het Amerikaanse Homeland Security, 911-taferelen en de samenwerking met Centcom in Brussel verwijst?

Erger nog, we weten niets van de opzet van deze missie noch welke instructies men heeft. Niemand weet het, deze term werd slechts één maal vernoemd door onze legerchef.

Omdat dat handig is met de Belgische drietaligheid. De term wordt constant gebruikt in de communicatie van defensie. Calm your titties.

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Omdat dat handig is met de Belgische drietaligheid. De term wordt constant gebruikt in de communicatie van defensie. Calm your titties.

Waarom gebruiken we dan niet ineens het Amerikaans als voertaal op defensie?

Een Belgisch staatsblad in het Engels? Leuk voor de nieuwkomers, het bevordert de integratie.

Als we toch zoveel van Amerika houden, laat ons dan ook volgende overnemen van hun:

.The Second Amendment (Amendment II) to the United States Constitution protects the right of the people to keep and bear arms and was adopted on December 15, 1791, as part of the first ten amendments contained in the Bill of Rights.[1][2][3][4] The Supreme Court of the United States has ruled that the right belongs to individuals,[5][6] while also ruling that the right is not unlimited and does not prohibit all regulation of either firearms or similar devices.[7] State and local governments are limited to the same extent as the federal government from infringing this right per the incorporation of the Bill of Rights.

The Second Amendment was based partially on the right to keep and bear arms in English common-law and was influenced by the English Bill of Rights of 1689. Sir William Blackstone described this right as an auxiliary right, supporting the natural rights of self-defense, resistance to oppression, and the civic duty to act in concert in defense of the state.

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Ook dit is "Homeland" in Amerika:

Amerika, een gans "verschillende" cultuur.

http://constitutionalmilitia.org/

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Waarom moet een operatie op Belgisch grondgebied een Engelse benaming aanwenden?

Ik zou zeker een klacht indienen bij de taalunie. Ik ben ook geschokt door dit vreselijke nieuws.

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Klinkt erg Amerikaans. Weet iemand wat dit is?

Dank U.

Wie had dat verwacht? Van de "Homeland"-missie een maandje geleden op naar een Belgische "Homeland Security"

De sp.a brengt de details:

Het nieuwe veiligheidsbeleid van sp.a steunt op vier pijlers: een Belgische 'Homeland Security', een superdatabank, één politiezone Brussel en een sluiting van moskeeën waar haat gepredikt wordt. Voorzitter John Crombez stelde in zijn slottoespraak op het congres "Jij maakt morgen" voor om 3 miljard van KBC te investeren in projecten tegen radicalisering.

Die Belgische Homeland Security, een centraal commando dat de verschillende onderdelen van de veiligheids- en inlichtingendiensten samensmeedt tot één efficiënte federale veiligheidsdienst, moet wel onder controle staan van het parlement, aldus nog Crombez.

Voorts wil sp.a één grote superdatabank die alle gegevens rond wapens, Syriëstrijders, radicalisme en terrorisme bundelt over verschillende diensten heen en deelt over de grenzen heen. Ten derde wil sp.a één politiezone in Brussel. "Brussel krijgt meer geld en meer politiemensen per hoofd van de bevolking dan eender welke plaats in ons land. Maar de middelen en agenten zijn slecht verdeeld", klinkt het.

Tot slot wil sp.a de verspreiding van een gewelddadige interpretatie van de islam stoppen. "Daarom moeten we elke plaats waar haat gepredikt wordt, sluiten. Daarom moeten we de financiering ervan droogleggen. Daarom moeten we de economische banden met Saoedi-Arabië doorknippen."

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Dat laatste is een must.

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BDW sprak er in 2014 ook over:

Bart De Wever, the mayor of Antwerp and the leader of the Flemish nationalist party N-VA, has said that Belgium needs a Homeland Security Department. The leader of Belgium's largest political party was speaking following a meeting of Flemish and Dutch mayors in Delft.

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Efforts will also be made to clamp down on violent radicalism on the internet. Websites that call on people to go and fight in conflict zones will be removed from the internet.

http://deredactie.be/cm/vrtnieuws.en...News/1.2027356


Enkel in België wilt men een "Homeland Security", in onze buurlanden is daar geen sprake van. Sommige politiekers kijken definitief teveel naar Amerikaanse flutseries. "Binnenlandse veiligheid" zou de lading dekken.

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Ik zou zeker een klacht indienen bij de taalunie. Ik ben ook geschokt door dit vreselijke nieuws.

Fijn voor U indien de taalkundige gruwel U niet stoort, maar de term Homeland klinkt wel erg naar, zeker als er dan nog eens Security bij staat.

De oorsprong:

When the Bush administration came into office they were very big on what they called 'Homeland Defense.' By this they meant, essentially, National Missile Defense.

After 9/11 it became quite clear that we did indeed face serious threats on the homefront. But there were much more effective and easier ways for our enemies to attack us than to lob ICBMs from Baghdad or Pyongyang. Thus, the shift in policy and terminology to 'homeland security.'

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/--99638


Time for the US to Dump the Word "Homeland"
http://www.truth-out.org/opinion/ite...-word-homeland

It's time to do away with the word "homeland."

As the situation with ISIS continues to escalate, and as worries about terrorist attacks on US soil continue to spread, we're hearing the term "homeland" mentioned more and more.

Ever since it first stole the spotlight with the creation of the Department of Homeland Security in the months after 9/11, the term "homeland" has become ingrained in US society.

But, as Chris Matthews pointed out on his MSNBC show recently, there's something strange and creepy about the term.

Matthews said that, "It's a term used by the neocons, they love it. It suggests something strange to me. Like who else are we defending except America? Why don't you just say 'America'? Why doesn't [Obama] say we defended against attacks against this country? As if we're facing some existential Armageddon threat from these people. Do you buy the phrase 'homeland'? I never heard it growing up, never heard it in my adulthood. It's a new word. Why are we using it? Is there some other place we're defending? What are we talking about when we say 'homeland'? What's it about?"

While Chris has really hit the nail on the head when it comes to the term "homeland," it's important that you know, as Paul Harvey used to say, "the rest of the story" behind this "strange" term.

First, it's really not a new word at all.

In fact, it's been around for a very long time and has a very dark history.

As Josh Marshall over at Talking Points Memo pointed out, the term homeland, "really does have a deep blood and soil tinge to it which is distinctly Germanic, more than a touch un-American, and a little creepy."

That "blood and soil" that Marshall is referring to was one of the really big slogans of Hitler's Nazi Germany. "Blood and soil - we Germans are the products of this earth, we are a race unique from all others."

Perhaps ironically, Hitler stole the term "homeland" from the 1920s and 1930s Zionist movement's goal to create a Jewish "homeland" in the Middle East, Hitler wanted to create a "racial" identity for the German people that was tied to German soil.

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Volgende artikel uit de NY Times vat het mooi samen.

Washington Talk; Prickly Roots of 'Homeland Security'
By ELIZABETH BECKER
Published: August 31, 2002


WASHINGTON, Aug. 30— When the home front becomes the war front, what do you call the office meant to protect the country?

The Bush administration settled on ''Homeland Security,'' a term it found in a 1997 Pentagon report. It was intended to recall home and hearth, and to assure Americans that someone was standing by to protect all that was dear.

But the phrase has failed to make it into common use, and is used almost solely by the bureaucrats charged with defending the country. Tom Ridge, who leads the Office of Homeland Security -- and who perhaps utters the title more often than anyone -- is not even sure how the choice came about.

''Etymology unknown, don't have a clue,'' Mr. Ridge said in an interview this week.

What he is aware of, though, are the complaints that ''homeland security'' sounds somewhat un-American.

''I've heard that comment, early on,'' he said.

Then he segued into one of the slogans he uses to imprint the term and concept into the consciousness of the still-doubting American public, ''We keep saying when the hometown is secure, the homeland is secure.''

For a jumble of reasons the American public has yet to embrace the phrase -- some rational, others rooted in the mists of confused history and memory.

''People find it a little quaint, a little forced,'' said Deborah Tannen, a linguistics professor at Georgetown University and author of ''You Just Don't Understand'' (William Morrow, 1990).

At worst, Ms. Tannen said, the phrase is associated with sinister historical precedents.

''There is one particular group -- American Jews, and I am Jewish -- for whom it has a menacing association,'' she said.

Nazis favored the word ''heimat,'' or ''homeland,'' and homeland defense forces were known as Heimwehr or Heimatschutz in Austria and Germany from the late 1920's.

For several decades after World War II, Germans rarely used patriotic words like ''heimat'' and ''vaterland,'' Hans Dieter Lucas, a spokesman at the German Embassy here, said.

''People then were reluctant to say 'heimat' or to be proud to be a native of Germany, but that is over,'' Mr. Lucas said. ''The term was misused by the Nazis -- the notion derives from 19th-century Romanticism, to mean your roots, the region where you grew up, your identity, where you belong, and that is how we use 'heimat' today.''

In fact, ''homeland'' has far older origins in the Hebrew language -- back to the book of Genesis.

''Moledet,'' or ''homeland'' in Hebrew, first came out of the mouth of God, when he told Abraham to lead his people to the moledet.

''It is a biblical word, not part of the popular vernacular,'' said Mark Regev, a spokesman at the Israeli Embassy.

But it is part of the political vocabulary in Israel.

''One of the right-wing parties has chosen that name -- the Moledet, or Homeland, Party,'' Mr. Regev said.

For the United States, the political origins of homeland security go back to the 1997 Quadrennial Defense Review mandated by Congress. While no one can remember who came up with the phrase, it shows up as part of a recommendation to put an ''increased emphasis on homeland defense.''

''In the discussions we had about antiterrorism in the building, we used the term 'homeland security' or 'defense,' '' said Kenneth H. Bacon, the former Pentagon spokesman. ''It does sort of have Germanic implications to it, and from that standpoint, it may carry unfortunate baggage, but I think it's descriptive.''

As early as 1999, the Pentagon had contemplated creating a commander in chief for the defense of the United States -- a ''homeland defense command'' -- but the idea was knocked down by civil rights groups that feared it would open the door to increased military influence in the country.

After the Sept. 11 attacks when the new office was put in the White House and not the Pentagon, the name became Homeland Security -- rather than Homeland Defense -- to clarify that the Defense Department would remain responsible for its traditional roles.

If the phrase ''homeland security'' fails to be the best match for the country's mood or memory, the president can always change it.

At the beginning of the war in Afghanistan, Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld renamed the military campaign Operation Enduring Freedom after complaints from Islamic scholars that the original name, Operation Infinite Justice, smacked too much of a holy war.[/sub]

Nog snel een paar Godwinpunten meepakken.

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Top DHS medewerker ondervraagd over de screening terroristen superdatabase:

Top DHS Screening Official Unable To Provide Stats On Refugees
GOP War Room
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uErCCRaytU

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Michel gaat de uitdaging aan:


Michel blikt vooruit op 2016: "Het gevecht tegen terreur wordt nog ingewikkeld"
http://www.hln.be/hln/nl/32616/Terre...react#reaction


Klopt Michel, oorlog is ingewikkeld.

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Partypooper Michel:

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