Joodse Bush-adviseur geeft toe wereld te bedriegen!

[Guderian]

De joodse lobbyist en Bush-adviseur Paul Wolfowitz geeft het nu openlijk toe, wat "wij" al langer wisten maar "naïef-kapitalistisch-rechts" in Europa niet:

"We pikten er één kwestie uit, de massavernietigingswapens, omdat het een reden was waar iedereen het eens mee kon zijn."
(De jood Wolfowitz in Vanity Fair)

Bravo beste Atlantisten in Europa!!!

[Wanne]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Guderian

Bravo beste Atlantisten in Europa!!!

Wie A zegt moet ook B zeggen... Wie zijn volgens u de Atlantisten in Europa en waarom zijn net zij de Atlantisten ?

[Kotsmos]

de joden!

[TomB]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Guderian

De joodse lobbyist en Bush-adviseur Paul Wolfowitz geeft het nu openlijk toe, wat "wij" al langer wisten maar "naïef-kapitalistisch-rechts" in Europa niet:

"We pikten er één kwestie uit, de massavernietigingswapens, omdat het een reden was waar iedereen het eens mee kon zijn."
(De jood Wolfowitz in Vanity Fair)

Bravo beste Atlantisten in Europa!!!

Dit is al bediscussieerd, the Guardian heeft daar een paar dagen geleden al over gepraat.

[Paulus de Boskabouter]

[Wanne]

Weet je nu wat ik heel erg graag doe ? Foto's bekijken... Soms zeggen ze zoveel meer dan woorden...

[Wanne]

Hoe noemen ze weer zo'n stalen haantje dat de windrichting aangeeft !? En is er ook geen term die in verband daarmee naar de politiek verwijst ?

[S.]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Guderian

De joodse lobbyist en Bush-adviseur Paul Wolfowitz geeft het nu openlijk toe, wat "wij" al langer wisten maar "naïef-kapitalistisch-rechts" in Europa niet:

"We pikten er één kwestie uit, de massavernietigingswapens, omdat het een reden was waar iedereen het eens mee kon zijn."
(De jood Wolfowitz in Vanity Fair)

Bravo beste Atlantisten in Europa!!!

Bent U boos omdat hij enkele van Uw islamitische vrienden heeft vermoord?

[filosoof]

[size=6]Waarom " joodse" ? denk je dat niet-"joodse" adviseurs en Bush himself de wereld niet even erg bedriegen?[/size]

Btw, Guderian, was dat geen Hitlergeneraal? d�*t en het keltisch kruis als "avatar" komen wel erg vies over! Als hij dan ook nog naar "Celtic Dawn" refereert: hier is wat info over die groep:
One of the most well known Nationalist bands made a welcome return to the movement in 1996. Celtic Dawn, despite never releasing an album, were known worldwide as Ireland's top White Nationalist group. We thank Tony for the following interview, which is the bands first since reforming
the group

FC Can you give a brief history of Celtic Dawn from its conception to the release of your first LP "FAITH & FATHERLAND?"
CD We formed Celtic Dawn in 1989 out of the ashes of Dublin Oi! band "Skin Appeal". We only got to play four gigs, the first being in Dublin and the last being in Northampton, England in 1989. We got a record deal with Rebels Europeens but it was never released. (Thanks Gael!) Then in 1995 Vicky from Women for Aryan Unity (WAU) in Holland got in touch and said that Viking Sounds records in Holland were interested in the idea of a Celtic Dawn LP. We got a contract and recorded a 13 track CD. We are now reformed but are not able to gig as yet but hopefully we are looking into the possibility of gigging in Europe soon.

Klinkt allemaal nogal rechts-extremistisch... vooral dat "Women for Arian Unity"... Niet te verwonderen dat Guderian met een jood op zijn neus zit...




Hieronder twee artikels over het komende "Bushgate"uit de BBC nieuwssite:
6 June 2003
FRESH DOUBTS OVER IRAQ'S ARSENAL
A leaked US intelligence report has cast fresh doubt on the coalition claims that Iraq had banned weapons which served as justification for going to war.
The secret September 2002 Pentagon intelligence report concluded that there was "no reliable information" that Iraq had biological or chemical weapons.
It is believed the report was widely circulated in the Bush administration at a time when senior officials were putting the case for military action.
The latest twist in the weapons row came as United Nations nuclear experts arrived in Iraq to investigate post-war looting of material from the country's main nuclear facility.
We could not specifically pin down individual facilities operating as part of the weapons of mass destruction programme
DIA director Vice Admiral Lowell Jacoby
The BBC's Pentagon correspondent Nick Childs says the 80-page report from the Defence Intelligence Agency (DIA) will only fuel the controversy over alleged Iraqi weapons of mass destruction (WMD).
It undermines Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld's claim at the time that Iraq had amassed large stockpiles of nerve agent and mustard gas.
US forces have not yet found any WMD in Iraq. Two suspect mobile laboratories have been located but have not provided any proof of banned weapons programmes.
Intelligence gaps
The DIA's director, Vice Admiral Lowell Jacoby, said the leaked extracts from the intelligence report should not be taken to mean his agency doubted that Iraq had a WMD programme.
WERE WE MISLED OVER WMD? You don't think that Saddam was knitting for the last few years after he kicked out the inspectors? Have some patience.
Sandy Clark, US
But he said it did show that the DIA "could not specifically pin down individual facilities operating as part of the weapons of mass destruction programme, specifically the chemical warfare portion".
He was speaking at a joint news conference with Pentagon intelligence chief Stephen Cambone and Republican Senator John Warner, who is planning hearings on the pre-war WMD intelligence.
Senator Warner urged Americans to trust the administration's claims.
Pentagon officials stress that there was no US or international presence on the ground in Iraq in September 2002 and that therefore there could be no definitive evidence.
A summary of the DIA report, quoted by CNN, said Iraq was "steadily establishing a dual-use industrial chemical infrastructure that provides some of the building blocks necessary for production of chemical agents".
And it said Iraq was "assessed to possess biological agent stockpiles that may be weaponised" - though the size and nature of those stockpiles was unknown.
It also noted various factors limiting Iraq's ability to produce chemical and biological weapons.
Blix criticism
US administration officials insist that their claims about Iraqi WMD will be proved to be accurate.
The CIA has launched an investigation to see if intelligence reports were distorted to exaggerate the threat posed by Saddam Hussein.
The UN chief weapons inspector, Hans Blix, has criticised the quality of intelligence given to him by the US and Britain about Iraq's alleged WMD.
Mr Blix told the BBC that his teams followed up US and British leads at suspected sites across Iraq, but found nothing when they got there.
Contamination
The team of seven experts from the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) will spend two weeks at the Tuwaitha complex, 50 kilometres (30 miles) south of Baghdad.
They will try to determine what is missing, deal with what is left and make it safe.
The UN experts at Tuwaitha are being blocked from investigating the reports of contamination and sickness. The US argues that as the occupying power it is responsible for the health of the Iraqi people.
The Pentagon limited the number of inspectors to seven.
Local people have been using barrels that held highly radioactive material to store food or wash clothes and some have complained of health problems, such as nose bleeds and vomiting.
They say looters were not after the uranium itself. They tipped it onto the ground so they could take away the containers to store food and water, the BBC's Caroline Hawley reports from Baghdad.
Workers living on the site, worried about being contaminated themselves, buried the spilled uranium in cement and appealed for international help.
Before the war, the site held two tons of low-grade enriched uranium and several tons of natural uranium. A nearby storage facility held other radiological sources.
US defence officials insist that US troops accompany the UN inspectors at the site, and that the visit sets no precedent for a future IAEA role in Iraq.
The Americans will deal with the search for WMD themselves - a US-backed team of 1,400 inspectors is due in Iraq in the coming days.
Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/1/h...st/2970064.stm

Published: 2003/06/06 20:20:26 GMT

© BBC MMIII

ANALYSIS: 'POTENTIAL WMD BLOW' FOR BUSH
By Justin Webb
BBC correspondent in Washington
A full-scale Congressional inquiry has been ordered on the use and possible abuse of intelligence information on weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.
The inquiry - being conducted by the Senate Armed Services and Intelligence Committees - is expected to compare comments made by the administration in the run-up to war with what it was given in terms of intelligence briefing.
Senator John Warner, head of the armed services committee, says he has had assurances that the CIA will provide all the information it gave to the administration.
The two committees investigating are being cautious about whether or not there was a deliberate attempt to exaggerate intelligence material.
They are saying it looks as if something might have gone wrong but are not saying any more than that.
Senator Warner says he personally believes weapons of mass destruction will be found and the issue will go away.
But he accepts it is such a grave issue - at the heart of America's ability to communicate to its allies and be believed in future - that it is something worthy of investigation.
Powerful
There has not been much public interest among Americans over the issue as yet, but that is likely to change.
Once senior people start to appear in front of these committees - and invitations could potentially be sent to Secretary of State Colin Powell and Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, among others - there is likely to be more interest.
Some of these hearings will be held in public and televised.
There will be a lot of interest in seeing the administration, really for the first time, having to defend itself in public against the charge that it misused information and, in the extreme, made things up.
Congressional committees are extremely powerful - much more so than their UK parliamentary equivalents. And, if they find evidence of wrongdoing, it could mightily embarrass the administration. It would be a huge blow for President Bush and potentially politically crippling.
These senators are extremely powerful and if they are persuaded there is a case to answer, then the administration is going to have to take notice.

Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/1/h...as/2959026.stm

Published: 2003/06/03 11:47:46 GMT

© BBC MMIII



Ook Blix heeft van in het begin laten weten dat er geen WMD's te vinden waren:
GVA 06/06/2003
[size=18]"MASSAVERNIETIGINGSWAPENS NIET HOOFDREDEN VOOR IRAK-OORLOG"[/size]

Hans Blix, hoofd van de VN-wapeninspecteurs, heeft vrijdag zijn twijfel uitgesproken over de officiële reden - het bestaan van massavernietingswapens (WMD) in Irak -die de Amerikaans president George W. Bush en zijn Britse collega Tony Blair aanvoerden om een oorlog in Irak te rechtvaardigen. "Er was wel bezorgdheid omtrent de biologische of chemische wapens, maar er waren talrijke andere redenen (...) en dat is waarom men vragen stelt bij het werkelijke belang van de massavernietigingswapens-kwestie in de beslissing om de oorlog te beginnen", zo verklaarde Blix in een ochtenduitzending op de Britse
zender BBC.

Het staat vast dat de Irakezen "vaak hun versie over de wapens wijzigden, maar we kunnen daar niet overhaast uit afleiden dat die wapens bestonden. Op dat punt zijn wij voorzichtig gebleven, zelfs toen anderen al hun overhaaste conclusies trokken", aldus Blix.
De uitspraken van Blix volgen in het spoor van de stijgende internationale kritiek aan het adres van Bush en Blair. Washington en Londen worden ervan beschuldigd het volk misleid te hebben door de informatie over de vermeende Iraakse massavernietigingswapens gemanipuleerd te hebben.

[Bluelagune]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Guderian

De joodse lobbyist en Bush-adviseur Paul Wolfowitz geeft het nu openlijk toe, wat "wij" al langer wisten maar "naïef-kapitalistisch-rechts" in Europa niet:

"We pikten er één kwestie uit, de massavernietigingswapens, omdat het een reden was waar iedereen het eens mee kon zijn."
(De jood Wolfowitz in Vanity Fair)

Bravo beste Atlantisten in Europa!!!

Alsof dat een reden zo zijn om ons af te keren van de Verenigde Staten. ..

Leve de Transatlantische solidariteit!!!
Leve het Westen!!

[C uit W]

Oh ja, en nederland zend nu ook vredestroepen naar Irak, amerika zal dit wel apprecieren, en rotterdam ook...

[filosoof]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Guderian

De joodse lobbyist en Bush-adviseur Paul Wolfowitz geeft het nu openlijk toe, wat "wij" al langer wisten maar "naïef-kapitalistisch-rechts" in Europa niet:

"We pikten er één kwestie uit, de massavernietigingswapens, omdat het een reden was waar iedereen het eens mee kon zijn."
(De jood Wolfowitz in Vanity Fair)

Bravo beste Atlantisten in Europa!!!

Guderian, je herhaalt jezelf, dus krijg je hetzelfde antwoord nog eens:
[size=6]Waarom " joodse" ? denk je dat niet-"joodse" adviseurs en Bush himself de wereld niet even erg bedriegen? [/size]Btw, Guderian, was dat geen Hitlergeneraal? d�*t en het keltisch kruis als "avatar" komen wel erg vies over! Als hij dan ook nog naar "Celtic Dawn" refereert: hier is wat info over die groep:
One of the most well known Nationalist bands made a welcome return to the movement in 1996. Celtic Dawn, despite never releasing an album, were known worldwide as Ireland's top White Nationalist group. We thank Tony for the following interview, which is the bands first since reforming
the group

FC Can you give a brief history of Celtic Dawn from its conception to the release of your first LP "FAITH & FATHERLAND?"
CD We formed Celtic Dawn in 1989 out of the ashes of Dublin Oi! band "Skin Appeal". We only got to play four gigs, the first being in Dublin and the last being in Northampton, England in 1989. We got a record deal with Rebels Europeens but it was never released. (Thanks Gael!) Then in 1995 Vicky from Women for Aryan Unity (WAU) in Holland got in touch and said that Viking Sounds records in Holland were interested in the idea of a Celtic Dawn LP. We got a contract and recorded a 13 track CD. We are now reformed but are not able to gig as yet but hopefully we are looking into the possibility of gigging in Europe soon.

Klinkt allemaal nogal rechts-extremistisch... vooral dat "Women for Arian Unity"... Niet te verwonderen dat Guderian met een jood op zijn neus zit...

[filosoof]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Guderian

De joodse lobbyist en Bush-adviseur Paul Wolfowitz geeft het nu openlijk toe, wat "wij" al langer wisten maar "naïef-kapitalistisch-rechts" in Europa niet:

"We pikten er één kwestie uit, de massavernietigingswapens, omdat het een reden was waar iedereen het eens mee kon zijn."
(De jood Wolfowitz in Vanity Fair)

Bravo beste Atlantisten in Europa!!!

Guderian, je herhaalt jezelf, dus krijg je hetzelfde antwoord nog eens:
[size=6]Waarom " joodse" ? denk je dat niet-"joodse" adviseurs en Bush himself de wereld niet even erg bedriegen? [/size]Btw, Guderian, was dat geen Hitlergeneraal? d�*t en het keltisch kruis als "avatar" komen wel erg vies over! Als hij dan ook nog naar "Celtic Dawn" refereert: hier is wat info over die groep:
One of the most well known Nationalist bands made a welcome return to the movement in 1996. Celtic Dawn, despite never releasing an album, were known worldwide as Ireland's top White Nationalist group. We thank Tony for the following interview, which is the bands first since reforming
the group

FC Can you give a brief history of Celtic Dawn from its conception to the release of your first LP "FAITH & FATHERLAND?"
CD We formed Celtic Dawn in 1989 out of the ashes of Dublin Oi! band "Skin Appeal". We only got to play four gigs, the first being in Dublin and the last being in Northampton, England in 1989. We got a record deal with Rebels Europeens but it was never released. (Thanks Gael!) Then in 1995 Vicky from Women for Aryan Unity (WAU) in Holland got in touch and said that Viking Sounds records in Holland were interested in the idea of a Celtic Dawn LP. We got a contract and recorded a 13 track CD. We are now reformed but are not able to gig as yet but hopefully we are looking into the possibility of gigging in Europe soon.

Klinkt allemaal nogal rechts-extremistisch... vooral dat "Women for Arian Unity"... Niet te verwonderen dat Guderian met een jood op zijn neus zit...

[filosoof]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Guderian

De joodse lobbyist en Bush-adviseur Paul Wolfowitz geeft het nu openlijk toe, wat "wij" al langer wisten maar "naïef-kapitalistisch-rechts" in Europa niet:

"We pikten er één kwestie uit, de massavernietigingswapens, omdat het een reden was waar iedereen het eens mee kon zijn."
(De jood Wolfowitz in Vanity Fair)

Bravo beste Atlantisten in Europa!!!

Guderian, je herhaalt jezelf, dus krijg je hetzelfde antwoord nog eens:
[size=6]Waarom " joodse" ? denk je dat niet-"joodse" adviseurs en Bush himself de wereld niet even erg bedriegen? [/size]Btw, Guderian, was dat geen Hitlergeneraal? d�*t en het keltisch kruis als "avatar" komen wel erg vies over! Als hij dan ook nog naar "Celtic Dawn" refereert: hier is wat info over die groep:
One of the most well known Nationalist bands made a welcome return to the movement in 1996. Celtic Dawn, despite never releasing an album, were known worldwide as Ireland's top White Nationalist group. We thank Tony for the following interview, which is the bands first since reforming
the group

FC Can you give a brief history of Celtic Dawn from its conception to the release of your first LP "FAITH & FATHERLAND?"
CD We formed Celtic Dawn in 1989 out of the ashes of Dublin Oi! band "Skin Appeal". We only got to play four gigs, the first being in Dublin and the last being in Northampton, England in 1989. We got a record deal with Rebels Europeens but it was never released. (Thanks Gael!) Then in 1995 Vicky from Women for Aryan Unity (WAU) in Holland got in touch and said that Viking Sounds records in Holland were interested in the idea of a Celtic Dawn LP. We got a contract and recorded a 13 track CD. We are now reformed but are not able to gig as yet but hopefully we are looking into the possibility of gigging in Europe soon.

Klinkt allemaal nogal rechts-extremistisch... vooral dat "Women for Arian Unity"... Niet te verwonderen dat Guderian met een jood op zijn neus zit...

[filosoof]

Fraai ventje , die "Guderian" Op Politicsinfo kwam ik hem ook al tegen.

GUDERIAN HIER, OVER ZICHZELF:
Beroep: Agitator
Interesses: Linksen op de zenuwen werken
avatar: een keltisch kruis
verder racistische verwijzingen naar "zwarte apinnetje", bruinen" m*k*kken, "vreemd crapuul"en "joden"
en: Alle migranten van de 1ste, 2de, 3de en 4de generatie buiten!
Alle joden buiten!
Alle "politieke vluchtelingen" buiten en meer van dat fraais...

…oa ook naar de ierse extreemnationalistische skingroep "Celtic Dawn", (die rat!)
EÉN EN ANDER OVER DE ÉCHTE GUDERIAN…:
Heinz Günther Guderian later became General in the Bundeswehr. Until the outbreak of the World War I, Heinz was commanded to the War Academy in Berlin for staff training.

After Adolf Hitler was in power, he visited a manoeuver and saw some of Guderian's small Panzer Is dashing around the battlefield, he was ecstatic. Offically ignoring the treaty of Versailles and installing conscription, Hitler authorized the creation of three Panzer Divisions. Guderian, who had at that time a very good relationship with Hitler, was made the Commander of the 2nd Panzer Division and shortly after was promoted to Major-General (Generalmajor). Not more than one and a half years later he was promoted to Lieutenant-General and received the command of XVI. Army-Corps. He spearheaded the Anschluss ("connection") of Austria and the Invasion of the Sudetenland (Czechoslovakia). Only ten months later, Guderian was promoted to Full-General (General der Panzertruppen) and got his most important assignment which well may have changed history: He became Chef der Schnellen Truppen (Chief of fast Troops). It meant that he was responsible for recruiting, training, tactics and technique of all the Wehrmacht's motorized and armored units. Now that he was able to bring the full weight of his personality, unique and vast knowledge and rank to bear, to make the German Panzer Divisions to the awesome instrument they became in the war. In the Invasion of Poland, Guderian commanded the XIX. Army-Corps and was awarded the Iron Cross second and first class again, followed by the Knights Cross. When Germany attacked France, Guderian made the real Blitzkrieg come true by constantly disobeying orders of his superiors and driving relentlessly as far as his men and tanks could go, wrecking havoc far beyond the expected frontline, cutting communications, taking french staffs as prisoniers, who thought that the Germans were still on the western side of the river Meuse and so leaving their own troops without command. The defeat of the French army was not completed by the superiority of the German tank weaponry.
…

Heinz Guderian surrendered to US-Army units in May of 1945 and became prisonier of war. He was send to Nuremberg, but not trialed. The Russians wanted to charge him with war crimes, but the Western Allies didn´t comply. (vermoed wordt dat dat een voorwaarde was voor zijn overgave in 1945)
…
The rest of the conference of the three officers deals only with the case of how could the written questions of the U.S. interrogation officers be answered to present the Wehrmacht and especially his officers in the most favourable view. The most important part is the end of the transcription and I will quote it without shortening it.

Geyr: "Any objective observer will admit that National Socialism raised the social status of the worker, and in some respects even his standard of living as long as that was possible."
L (Leeb): "This is one of the great achievements of National Socialism. The excesses of National Socialism were in the first and final analysis due to the (warped) personality of the FUEHRER [capitals in the orig. script]."
GUD (Guderian): "The fundamental principles were fine." L: "That is true."

This is one of the few statements of Guderian. Is a man who agrees to the "fundamental principles of National Socialism" a nazi? What does it need to make a nazi? What are the "fundamental principles"? The fundamental principles of Hitler were to wage war and to expel or to kill the Jews. He never made a secret of that since the year of 1923. How do the quoted officers distinguish between Hitler and National Socialism? Because the above questions can hardly be answered as a whole, I leave the judgment to the reader. At the least the quotations are disturbing. Clearly the officers thought political and Guderian did so also.
"Mooie" stank rond zijn idealen dus...hmm hmmm, nu vlug mijn handen goed wassen!

In 1946, Guderian was imprisoned in Allendorf and Neustadt (Hessen) but in 1948, he was released. In the following years, he published his reminiscences and some other works and articles (see Bibliography). He died on May 14th of 1954, in Schwangau bei Fussen (West Germany),

Als d�*t het "gedachtengoed" is waar "vriend" (nog geen kennis!) Guderian zich mee (op)voedt...

[numarx]

Psst, filosoof? No offence, maar zou je kunnen stoppen met je volledige tekst in het vet/groot te zetten? Dat stoort wel wat. De inhoud van je berichten bevalt me meestal wel, maar de vorm doet pijn aan mijn reeds fel geteisterde oogjes.

[filosoof]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Guderian

De joodse lobbyist en Bush-adviseur Paul Wolfowitz geeft het nu openlijk toe, wat "wij" al langer wisten maar "naïef-kapitalistisch-rechts" in Europa niet:

"We pikten er één kwestie uit, de massavernietigingswapens, omdat het een reden was waar iedereen het eens mee kon zijn."
(De jood Wolfowitz in Vanity Fair)

Bravo beste Atlantisten in Europa!!! :

WIE ZIJN die "WIJ" welk obscuur groepje???????????

[skye]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Numarx

Psst, filosoof? No offence, maar zou je kunnen stoppen met je volledige tekst in het vet/groot te zetten? Dat stoort wel wat. De inhoud van je berichten bevalt me meestal wel, maar de vorm doet pijn aan mijn reeds fel geteisterde oogjes.

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door filosoof

WIE ZIJN die "WIJ" welk obscuur groepje???????????

[Kotsmos]

Filosoof, stopt is met serieus te reageren op Guderian. Probeer hem te zien als een lief klein aapje. Echt niet moeilijk hoor, en het verhoogt de aaibaarheidsfactor van het forum enorm.

[wardje]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Kotsmos

Filosoof, stopt is met serieus te reageren op Guderian. Probeer hem te zien als een lief klein aapje. Echt niet moeilijk hoor, en het verhoogt de aaibaarheidsfactor van het forum enorm.

Das altijd de kwestie he; moet je de confrontatie aangaan met zulke stijfkoppen of kun je ze beter negeren?

Zwijgen is toch altijd een beetje instemmen he. Anderzijds, zijn uitspraken zijn er meestal zo óver dat ze lachwekkend worden. Boeh ik weet het ook niet.