The Future Of Belgium

[Hans1]

I think it's time to start an English speaking topic on "politics.be" about the future of the small state Belgium.

According to different opinion polls, 80 to 90% of all Belgians desire to keep the country, some of them wanting to create again a united Belgium with one government and one parliament for the whole nation instead of the six governments and parliaments we have today.

10 important questions:

1) Is the democratic argument important to you?
2) Need there be a referendum?
3) Does multilinguism in a state have an added value?
4)What about other countries in the world that are multilingual, like Spain, Switzerland, South-Africa, Canada, the USA...? Split them up or unite them? What about the multilingual European Union (20 languages today)?
5) What about the differences between the Belgian provinces?
6) What about the differences between North and South-England, the North and the South of Italy or between Ile de France and Brittany or the Alps region?
7) Has federalism a future?
8) Does the north of Belgium need a strong South just as the West of Germany needs a strong East?
9) Why do the Germans accept three times more transfers to the East than some Dutch speaking Belgians to the South?
10) If federalism for Belgium is a mistake, which reasonable argument does exist to prevent that mistake from being corrected?[edit]
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I think it's time to start an English speaking topic on "politics.be" about the future of the small state Belgium.

According to different opinion polls, 80 to 90% of all Belgians desire to keep the country, some of them wanting to create again a united Belgium with one government and one parliament for the whole nation instead of the six governments and parliaments we have today.

10 important questions:

1) Is the democratic argument important to you?
2) Need there be a referendum?
3) Does multilinguism in a state have an added value?
4)What about other countries in the world that are multilingual, like Spain, Switzerland, South-Africa, Canada, the USA...? Split them up or unite them? What about the multilingual European Union (20 languages today)?
5) What about the differences between the Belgian provinces?
6) What about the differences between North and South-England, the North and the South of Italy or between Ile de France and Brittany or the Alps region?
7) Has federalism a future?
8) Does the north of Belgium need a strong South just as the West of Germany needs a strong East?
9) Why do the Germans accept three times more transfers to the East than some Dutch speaking Belgians to the South?
10) If federalism for Belgium is a mistake, which reasonable argument does exist to prevent that mistake from being corrected?[/size]

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[size=1]After edit by Hans1 on 11-09-2005 at 11:27
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I think it's time to start an English speaking topic on "politics.be" about the future of the small state Belgium.

According to different opinion polls, 80 to 90% of all Belgians desire to keep the country, some of them wanting to create again a united Belgium with one government and one parliament for the whole nation instead of the six governments and parliaments we have today.

10 important questions:

1) Is the democratic argument important to you?
2) Need there be a referendum?
3) Does multilingiusm in a state have an added value?
4)What about other countries in the world that are multilingual, like Spain, Switzerland, South-Africa, Canada, the USA...? Split them up or unite them? What about the multilingual European Union (20 languages today)?
5) What about the differences between the Belgian provinces?
6) What about the differences between North and South-England or between Paris and Brittany?
7) Has federalism a future?
8) Does the north of Belgium needs a strong south just as the West of Germany needs a strong East?
9) Why do the Germans accept three times more transfers to the East than some Dutch speaking Belgians to the south?
10) If federalism for Belgium is a mistake, which reasonable argument does exist to prevent that mistake from being corrected?[/size]

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I think it's time to start an English speaking topic on "politics.be" about the future of the small state Belgium.

According to different opinion polls, 80 to 90% of all Belgians desire to keep the country, some of them wanting to create again a united Belgium with one government and one parliament for the whole nation instead of the six governments and parliaments we have today.

Important questions:

1) Is the democratic argument important to you?
2) Need there be a referendum?
3) Does multilingiusm in a state have an added value?
4)What about other countries in the world that are multilingual, like Spain, Switzerland, South-Africa, Canada, the USA...? Split them up or unite them? What about the multilingual European Union (20 languages today)?
5) What about the differences between the Belgian provinces?
6) What about the differences between North and South-England or between Paris and Brittany?
7) Has federalism a future?
8) Does the north of Belgium needs a strong south just as the West of Germany needs a strong East?
9) Why do the Germans accept three times more transfers to the East than some Dutch speaking Belgians to the south?
10) If federalism for Belgium is a mistake, which rea[/size]

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[Musketo]

Ge zoudt beter de Duitse uitgave van uw webplek wat verzorgen in plaats van hier aanstellerij te posten.

[Hans1]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Musketo

Ge zoudt beter de Duitse uitgave van uw webplek wat verzorgen in plaats van hier aanstellerij te posten.

I beg your pardon?

[Musketo]

I think not.

[Supe®Staaf]

[De schoofzak]

Leert eerst maar eens je favoriete klubje van Laeken een beetje Engels.
Zo schabouwelijk is hun uitspraak en de moeite die ze moeten doen om een Engels tekstje voor te lezen ... bijna zo erg als hun Nederlands .. ze zijn eigenlijk het omgekeerde van ambassadeurs van hun eigen bevolking.

[PAJOT]

k&k

[Knuppel]

Hans, inplaats van altijd dezelfde leugens te blijven herhalen zou je beter eens een keer NIET gaan lopen waar je voor de zoveelste keer in je blootje wordt gezet.

http://forum.politics.be/showthread.php?t=40083

[Jan van den Berghe]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Knuppel

Hans, inplaats van altijd dezelfde leugens te blijven herhalen zou je beter eens een keer NIET gaan lopen waar je voor de zoveelste keer in je blootje wordt gezet.

http://forum.politics.be/showthread.php?t=40083

En ook het volgende niet vergeten!

http://forum.politics.be/showpost.ph...postcount=1441

[vercetti]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Hans1

According to different opinion polls, 80 to 90% of all Belgians desire to keep the country, some of them wanting to create again a united Belgium with one government and one parliament for the whole nation instead of the six governments and parliaments we have today.

Kan wel waar zijn. Als je vraagt moet belgië kapot, kan het zijn dat inderdaad 80% van de bevolking 'nee' zegt. Vraag je of ze meer voor Vlaanderen willen en of ze het einde van de Waalse arrogantie willen stemt 99.96% vóór.

[Hans1]

As always, the flamingants never answer the questions. It is miserable. They always tear the conversation down to the lowest point below zero.

[Hans1]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door vercetti

Kan wel waar zijn. Als je vraagt moet belgië kapot, kan het zijn dat inderdaad 80% van de bevolking 'nee' zegt. Vraag je of ze meer voor Vlaanderen willen en of ze het einde van de Waalse arrogantie willen stemt 99.96% vóór.

How do you know that? Wet finger? The people could ask you if it is true that the French speaking Belgians are all arrogant. They are surely not all arrogant, except in the mind of a simplistic Flamingant.

And besides, 80 or 90% of the population in favour of the maintenance of Belgium is very clear and without appeal.[edit]
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How do you know that? Wet finger? The people could ask you if it is true that the French speaking Belgians are all arrogant. They are surely not all arrogant, except in the mind of a simplistic Flamingant.

And besides, 80 or 90% of the population in favour of the maintenance of Belgium is very clear and without appeal.[/size]

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How do you know that? Wet finger? The people could ask you if it is true that the French speaking Belgians are all arrogant. They are surely not all arrogant, except in the mind of a simplistic Flamingant.[/size]

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How do you know that? Wet finger?[/size]

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[Hans1]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Supe®Staaf

Superstaaf, your answer is disappointing and surprising to me.

[Musketo]

Taalterrorist.

[Patriot!]

Musketo appears to be a Flemish nationalist as well.

Why is this topic in English?

[Musketo]

Door jullie gewauwel kan een mens niet anders dan flamingant worden.

[Henry]

Is er een psychiater in de zaal?
Kunt u dan even langsgaan bij Hans om af te geraken van zijn paranoia ("alle Vlaamsgezinden zijn nazi's") en van zijn Calimero-complex ("België is zó klein, meneer").
Waarvoor dank.

[Hans1]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Patriot!

Musketo appears to be a Flemish nationalist as well.

Why is this topic in English?

Musketo is an flamingant who doesn't know English but doesn't want to admit it.

This topic is in English to broaden the discussion to the world community because internet can be used on the whole planet.

Besides, I am still waiting for an answer to my questions. Are they too difficult for the "mens flamingantia"?[edit]
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Musketo is an flamingant who doesn't know English but doesn't want to admit it.

This topic is in English to broaden the discussion to the world community because internet can be used on the whole planet.

Besides, I am still waiting for an answer to my questions. Are they too difficult for the "mens flamingantia"?[/size]

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Musketo is an flamingant who doesn't know English but doesn't want to admit it.

This topic is in English to broaden the discussion to the world community because internet can be used on the whole planet.

I am still waiting for an answer to my questions. Are they too difficult for the "mens flamingantia"?[/size]

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Musketo is an flamingant who doesn't know English but doesn't want to admit it.

This topic is in English to broaden the discussion to the world community because internet can be used on the whole planet.

I am still waiting for an answer to my questions? Are they too difficult for the "mens flamingantia"?[/size]

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Musketo is an flamingant who doesn't know English but doesn't want to admit it.

This topic is in English to broaden the discussion to the world community because internet can be used on the whole planet.[/size]

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[Henry]

1) Is the democratic argument important to you?
Very important
2) Need there be a referendum?
A referendum will be impossible, because the politicians won't be able to agree about the way the question is posed.
3) Does multilinguism in a state have an added value?
Yes very much. Flemish people are known for their multilinguism. Walloon people are known as French speaking. Flanders is a multilingual state, Walloon is unilingual.
4)What about other countries in the world that are multilingual, like Spain, Switzerland, South-Africa, Canada, the USA...? These are federal countries, that do not need to be be split up.
5) What about the differences between the Belgian provinces? Difference is beautiful.
6) What about the differences between North and South-England, the North and the South of Italy or between Ile de France and Brittany or the Alps region? Very nice indeed.
7) Has federalism a future?
Does the north of Belgium need a strong South just as the West of Germany needs a strong East? Yes indeed. Unfortunately, the South of Belgium has a very corrupt state economy, that spoils all of the money given to it by Flanders and Europe. There will have to be a change in politics before there can be a change in economy in Walloon.
9) Why do the Germans accept three times more transfers to the East than some Dutch speaking Belgians to the South? Because their money is well spent!! In walloon, the money disappears in a PS-state economy. It is no longer affordable, especially with the globalising world economy. The PS-state is the bankrupcy of Walloon, Belgium and in the end also Flanders.
10) If federalism for Belgium is a mistake, which reasonable argument does exist to prevent that mistake from being corrected? It is not a mistake. But it is not yet perfect. It will be in a couple of years, decennia.

[Musketo]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Hans1

Musketo is an flamingant who doesn't know English but doesn't want to admit it.

This topic is in English to broaden the discussion to the world community because internet can be used on the whole planet.

Besides, I am still waiting for an answer to my questions. Are they too difficult for the "mens flamingantia"?

Een leraar Latijn zal het graag zien.