Eindelijk een land dat voor z'n rechten opkomt!

Werkslaaf · 29 september 2006, 07:30

Australian comments on immigration

''This is our country, our land and our lifestyle, and we will allow you every opportunity to enjoy all this''

Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law were told on Wednesday to get out of Australia, as the government targeted radicals in a bid to head off potential terror attacks. A day after a group of mainstream Muslim leaders pledged loyalty to Australia and her Queen at a special meeting with Prime Minister John Howard, he and his Ministers made it clear that extremists would face a crackdown.
Treasurer Peter Costello, seen as heir apparent to Howard, hinted that some radical clerics could be asked to leave the country if they did not accept that Australia was a secular state, and its laws were made by parliament.
"If those are not your values, if you want a country which has Sharia law or a theocratic state, then Australia is not for you," he said on national television. "I'd be saying to clerics who are teaching that there are two laws governing people in Australia: one the Australian law and another the Islamic law, that is false. If you can't agree with parliamentary law, independent courts, democracy, and would prefer Sharia law and have the opportunity to go to another country, which practices it, perhaps, then, that's a better option," Costello said.
Asked whether he meant radical clerics would be forced to leave, he said those with dual citizenship could possibly be asked to move to the other country.
Education Minister Brendan Nelson later told reporters that Muslims who did not want to accept local values should "clear off. Basically people who don't want to be Australians, and who don't want to live by Australian values and understand them, well then, they can basically clear off," he said.
Separately, Howard angered some Australian Muslims on Wednesday by saying he supported spy agencies monitoring the nation's mosques quote: "IMMIGRANTS, NOT AUSTRALIANS, MUST ADAPT. Take It Or Leave it. I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are offending some individual or their culture. Since the terrorist attacks on Bali, we have experienced a surge in patriotism by the majority of Australians."
"However, the dust from the attacks had barely settled when the 'politically correct' crowd began complaining about the possibility that our patriotism was offending others. I am not against immigration, nor do I hold a grudge against anyone who is seeking a better life by coming to Australia." "However, there are a few things that those who have recently come to our country, and apparently some born here, need to understand." "This idea of Australia being a multicultural community has served only to dilute our sovereignty and our national identity. As Australians, we have our own culture, our own society, our own language and our own lifestyle." "This culture has been developed over two centuries of struggles, trials and victories by millions of men and women who have sought freedom"
"We speak mainly ENGLISH, not Spanish, Lebanese, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become part of our society, learn the language!"
"Most Australians believe in God. This is not some Christian, right; wing, political push, but a fact, because Christian men and women, on Christian principles, founded this nation, and this is clearly documented. It is certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of our schools. If God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as your new home, because God is part of our culture."
"We will accept your beliefs, and will not question why. All we ask is that you accept ours, and live in harmony and peaceful enjoyment with us." "If the Southern Cross offends you, or you don't like " A Fair Go," then you should seriously consider a move to another part of this planet. We are happy with our culture and have no desire to change, and we really dont care how you did things where you came from. By all means, keep your culture, but do not force it on others.
"This is OUR COUNTRY, OUR LAND, and OUR LIFESTYLE, and we will allow you every opportunity to enjoy all this. But once you are done complaining, whining, and griping about Our Flag, Our Pledge, Our Christian beliefs, or Our Way of Life, I highly encourage you take advantage of one other great Australian freedom, 'THE RIGHT TO LEAVE.'" "If you aren't happy here then LEAVE. We didn't force you to come here. You asked to be here. So accept the country YOU accepted.

Reza · 29 september 2006, 08:03

En een dubbele copypaste nog wel!

Antoon · 29 september 2006, 08:06

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En een dubbele copypaste nog wel!

Om de aanmoedigende feiten dubbel op je neus te drukken.

bob. · 29 september 2006, 08:28

Laat ons hopen dat ooit onze Europese leiders dezelfde moed aan de dag kunnen/willen leggen zoals de Australische dan doen.
Het islamitisch experiment is namelijk véééééééééééééééél te ver gegaan.

At your service

eno2 · 29 september 2006, 09:44

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Eindelijk een land dat voor z'n rechten opkomt!

Duidelijk typisch overwerkte werkslaven-thread.

Bhairav · 29 september 2006, 10:02

Het gemiddeld IQ in Australie ligt onder 100.

Calle · 29 september 2006, 10:10

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Het gemiddeld IQ in Australie ligt onder 100.

Niet naartoe gaan dus aub Bhairav, anders gaat het gemiddelde nog lager liggen.

benarty · 29 september 2006, 10:30

Je kan nu eenmaal niet ontkennen dat er een religueuze clash onstaat als Europa passief blijft reageren. Turkije erbij is het domste, maar dan ook het domste wat Europa kan doen. Natuurlijk is veralgemenen gevaarlijk maar dat ze inderdaad wat tegen het doen en laten van de europese burger is gewoon buitengooien.
Het multicultureel model werkt niet als je het op globaal niveau hanteerd, dus mensen de facto de mogelijkheid laat om te emmigreren en vast te roesten in hun eigen daden en gewoontes en daarbij nog eens samenklitten..ghettovorming dus.

En helaas, pech voor diegene die wel goed integreren.

LeMmOnN · 29 september 2006, 11:14

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Australian comments on immigration

''This is our country, our land and our lifestyle, and we will allow you every opportunity to enjoy all this''

Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law were told on Wednesday to get out of Australia, as the government targeted radicals in a bid to head off potential terror attacks. A day after a group of mainstream Muslim leaders pledged loyalty to Australia and her Queen at a special meeting with Prime Minister John Howard, he and his Ministers made it clear that extremists would face a crackdown.

...to leave the country if they did not accept that Australia was a secular state, and its laws were made by parliament.
"If those are not your values, if you want a country which has Sharia law or a theocratic state, then Australia is not for you,"

... "This idea of Australia being a multicultural community has served only to dilute our sovereignty and our national identity. As Australians, we have our own culture, our own society, our own language and our own lifestyle." ... learn the language!"

... If God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as your new home, because God is part of our culture."

... and live in harmony and peaceful enjoyment with us." ... By all means, keep your culture, but do not force it on others.

"This is OUR COUNTRY, OUR LAND, and OUR LIFESTYLE, and we will allow you every opportunity to enjoy all this.

..."If you aren't happy here then LEAVE. We didn't force you to come here. You asked to be here. So accept the country YOU accepted.

Geraakt PC dan eindelijk uit de mode?! Zullen in Europa dan ook eindelijk de PC/democratische ogen opengaan?!

Herr Flick · 29 september 2006, 11:32

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Het gemiddeld IQ in Australie ligt onder 100.

Komt dat door al die kangeroe's of heeft dat misschien iets te maken met al die moslimmigranten,

in dat geval ga ik u wel moeten raporteren bij Yousouf De Witte, grootmoeftie van het center voor vlamingendiscriminatie en inquisitie.

Rudy Van Nespen · 29 september 2006, 11:51

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Het gemiddeld IQ in Australie ligt onder 100.

D�*�*rom dat ze daar voor hun land en cultuur durven opkomen!

Als je verstandig links bent, dan durf je dat niet en dan haat je je land en cultuur zodanig dat je het allemaal GRATIS weggeeft aan de 'kultuur' van een sekte die niet liever wil dan haar leefregels aan jou opleggen.
Als je dan verstandig links bent, zeg je 'Dank U' en noem je het multiculturele verrijking.

NEE BEDANKT! Geef mij maar de 'achterlijke Aussies', die tenminste de ballen hebben om op te komen voor zichzelf!

Bhairav · 29 september 2006, 12:25

Vlaanderen moet dus ook achterlijk worden?

Rudy Van Nespen · 29 september 2006, 13:30

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Vlaanderen moet dus ook achterlijk worden?

Als we jouw definitie van 'achterlijk' volgen, zeker wel, en heel dringend ook!!!!!

djimi · 29 september 2006, 13:30

Tja, die Australiërs met hun 'eigen land' hebben het natuurlijk wèl eerst moeten afpakken ( = stelen ) van de oorspronkelijke bewoners, hé.

Uh-Huh · 29 september 2006, 13:40

Voor allochtonen, die de oorspronkelijke bevolking (=aboriginals) hebben verdreven en uitgemoord, vind ik dit toch wel straffe uitspraken.

benarty · 29 september 2006, 13:45

Kijk, je kan het verleden niet meer veranderen en het moet stillaan eens gedaan zijn om alles uit zijn context te trekken. Wat toen gebeurt is kan je niet lateraal overzetten naar deze tijden.
Natuurlijk zijn er grove dingen gebeurt maar daar hebben wij en zij, dus de huidige generatie niks aan kunnen doen. Bij wat er NU op de planeet gebeurt daarentegen is dat wel mogelijk.

Uh-Huh · 29 september 2006, 13:51

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Kijk, je kan het verleden niet meer veranderen en het moet stillaan eens gedaan zijn om alles uit zijn context te trekken. Wat toen gebeurt is kan je niet lateraal overzetten naar deze tijden.
Natuurlijk zijn er grove dingen gebeurt maar daar hebben wij en zij, dus de huidige generatie niks aan kunnen doen. Bij wat er NU op de planeet gebeurt daarentegen is dat wel mogelijk.

In dat geval moeten de mensen het recentelijk verleden ook maar beginnen te aanvaarden. In de laatste eeuw hebben mensen vreedzaam en masaal geëmigreerd naar rijkere landen, het is m.a.w. een deel van de geschiedenis. Face it and live with it.

spunk · 29 september 2006, 13:51

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Kijk, je kan het verleden niet meer veranderen en het moet stillaan eens gedaan zijn om alles uit zijn context te trekken. Wat toen gebeurt is kan je niet lateraal overzetten naar deze tijden.
Natuurlijk zijn er grove dingen gebeurt maar daar hebben wij en zij, dus de huidige generatie niks aan kunnen doen. Bij wat er NU op de planeet gebeurt daarentegen is dat wel mogelijk.

is het daarom dat de huidige generaties duitsers nog steeds miljoenen per jaar aan israel betalen? en zwitserland ook voor miljoenen is gechanteerd geweest (nu proberen ze polen en frankrijk leeg te zuigen)

smiley · 29 september 2006, 13:53

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Australian comments on immigration

''This is our country, our land and our lifestyle, and we will allow you every opportunity to enjoy all this''

Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law were told on Wednesday to get out of Australia, as the government targeted radicals in a bid to head off potential terror attacks. A day after a group of mainstream Muslim leaders pledged loyalty to Australia and her Queen at a special meeting with Prime Minister John Howard, he and his Ministers made it clear that extremists would face a crackdown.
Treasurer Peter Costello, seen as heir apparent to Howard, hinted that some radical clerics could be asked to leave the country if they did not accept that Australia was a secular state, and its laws were made by parliament.
"If those are not your values, if you want a country which has Sharia law or a theocratic state, then Australia is not for you," he said on national television. "I'd be saying to clerics who are teaching that there are two laws governing people in Australia: one the Australian law and another the Islamic law, that is false. If you can't agree with parliamentary law, independent courts, democracy, and would prefer Sharia law and have the opportunity to go to another country, which practices it, perhaps, then, that's a better option," Costello said.
Asked whether he meant radical clerics would be forced to leave, he said those with dual citizenship could possibly be asked to move to the other country.
Education Minister Brendan Nelson later told reporters that Muslims who did not want to accept local values should "clear off. Basically people who don't want to be Australians, and who don't want to live by Australian values and understand them, well then, they can basically clear off," he said.
Separately, Howard angered some Australian Muslims on Wednesday by saying he supported spy agencies monitoring the nation's mosques quote: "IMMIGRANTS, NOT AUSTRALIANS, MUST ADAPT. Take It Or Leave it. I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are offending some individual or their culture. Since the terrorist attacks on Bali, we have experienced a surge in patriotism by the majority of Australians."
"However, the dust from the attacks had barely settled when the 'politically correct' crowd began complaining about the possibility that our patriotism was offending others. I am not against immigration, nor do I hold a grudge against anyone who is seeking a better life by coming to Australia." "However, there are a few things that those who have recently come to our country, and apparently some born here, need to understand." "This idea of Australia being a multicultural community has served only to dilute our sovereignty and our national identity. As Australians, we have our own culture, our own society, our own language and our own lifestyle." "This culture has been developed over two centuries of struggles, trials and victories by millions of men and women who have sought freedom"
"We speak mainly ENGLISH, not Spanish, Lebanese, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become part of our society, learn the language!"
"Most Australians believe in God. This is not some Christian, right; wing, political push, but a fact, because Christian men and women, on Christian principles, founded this nation, and this is clearly documented. It is certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of our schools. If God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as your new home, because God is part of our culture."
"We will accept your beliefs, and will not question why. All we ask is that you accept ours, and live in harmony and peaceful enjoyment with us." "If the Southern Cross offends you, or you don't like " A Fair Go," then you should seriously consider a move to another part of this planet. We are happy with our culture and have no desire to change, and we really dont care how you did things where you came from. By all means, keep your culture, but do not force it on others.
"This is OUR COUNTRY, OUR LAND, and OUR LIFESTYLE, and we will allow you every opportunity to enjoy all this. But once you are done complaining, whining, and griping about Our Flag, Our Pledge, Our Christian beliefs, or Our Way of Life, I highly encourage you take advantage of one other great Australian freedom, 'THE RIGHT TO LEAVE.'" "If you aren't happy here then LEAVE. We didn't force you to come here. You asked to be here. So accept the country YOU accepted.

Prachtige tekst. Dat is gesproken !

smiley · 29 september 2006, 13:54

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Voor allochtonen, die de oorspronkelijke bevolking (=aboriginals) hebben verdreven en uitgemoord, vind ik dit toch wel straffe uitspraken.

Kijk eens wat allochtonen zich in ons land durven permitteren !!!

29 september 2006, 07:30	#1
Werkslaaf Burgemeester Geregistreerd: 27 februari 2004 Berichten: 592	Eindelijk een land dat voor z'n rechten opkomt! Australian comments on immigration ''This is our country, our land and our lifestyle, and we will allow you every opportunity to enjoy all this'' Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law were told on Wednesday to get out of Australia, as the government targeted radicals in a bid to head off potential terror attacks. A day after a group of mainstream Muslim leaders pledged loyalty to Australia and her Queen at a special meeting with Prime Minister John Howard, he and his Ministers made it clear that extremists would face a crackdown. Treasurer Peter Costello, seen as heir apparent to Howard, hinted that some radical clerics could be asked to leave the country if they did not accept that Australia was a secular state, and its laws were made by parliament. "If those are not your values, if you want a country which has Sharia law or a theocratic state, then Australia is not for you," he said on national television. "I'd be saying to clerics who are teaching that there are two laws governing people in Australia: one the Australian law and another the Islamic law, that is false. If you can't agree with parliamentary law, independent courts, democracy, and would prefer Sharia law and have the opportunity to go to another country, which practices it, perhaps, then, that's a better option," Costello said. Asked whether he meant radical clerics would be forced to leave, he said those with dual citizenship could possibly be asked to move to the other country. Education Minister Brendan Nelson later told reporters that Muslims who did not want to accept local values should "clear off. Basically people who don't want to be Australians, and who don't want to live by Australian values and understand them, well then, they can basically clear off," he said. Separately, Howard angered some Australian Muslims on Wednesday by saying he supported spy agencies monitoring the nation's mosques quote: "IMMIGRANTS, NOT AUSTRALIANS, MUST ADAPT. Take It Or Leave it. I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are offending some individual or their culture. Since the terrorist attacks on Bali, we have experienced a surge in patriotism by the majority of Australians." "However, the dust from the attacks had barely settled when the 'politically correct' crowd began complaining about the possibility that our patriotism was offending others. I am not against immigration, nor do I hold a grudge against anyone who is seeking a better life by coming to Australia." "However, there are a few things that those who have recently come to our country, and apparently some born here, need to understand." "This idea of Australia being a multicultural community has served only to dilute our sovereignty and our national identity. As Australians, we have our own culture, our own society, our own language and our own lifestyle." "This culture has been developed over two centuries of struggles, trials and victories by millions of men and women who have sought freedom" "We speak mainly ENGLISH, not Spanish, Lebanese, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become part of our society, learn the language!" "Most Australians believe in God. This is not some Christian, right; wing, political push, but a fact, because Christian men and women, on Christian principles, founded this nation, and this is clearly documented. It is certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of our schools. If God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as your new home, because God is part of our culture." "We will accept your beliefs, and will not question why. All we ask is that you accept ours, and live in harmony and peaceful enjoyment with us." "If the Southern Cross offends you, or you don't like " A Fair Go," then you should seriously consider a move to another part of this planet. We are happy with our culture and have no desire to change, and we really dont care how you did things where you came from. By all means, keep your culture, but do not force it on others. "This is OUR COUNTRY, OUR LAND, and OUR LIFESTYLE, and we will allow you every opportunity to enjoy all this. But once you are done complaining, whining, and griping about Our Flag, Our Pledge, Our Christian beliefs, or Our Way of Life, I highly encourage you take advantage of one other great Australian freedom, 'THE RIGHT TO LEAVE.'" "If you aren't happy here then LEAVE. We didn't force you to come here. You asked to be here. So accept the country YOU accepted. __________________ ------------------------------------------------------- Niet geven is geen vorm van geweld, anderen verplichten te geven is dat duidelijk wel. ------------------------------------------------------- Sovjet Rusland en vergelijkbare totalitaire landen zijn voorbeelden van naties die getracht hebben de vrijheid te elimineren.

29 september 2006, 13:45	#16
benarty Burger Geregistreerd: 16 september 2006 Berichten: 177	Kijk, je kan het verleden niet meer veranderen en het moet stillaan eens gedaan zijn om alles uit zijn context te trekken. Wat toen gebeurt is kan je niet lateraal overzetten naar deze tijden. Natuurlijk zijn er grove dingen gebeurt maar daar hebben wij en zij, dus de huidige generatie niks aan kunnen doen. Bij wat er NU op de planeet gebeurt daarentegen is dat wel mogelijk. Laatst gewijzigd door benarty : 29 september 2006 om 13:45.

29 september 2006, 08:03	#2
Reza Banneling Geregistreerd: 7 juni 2006 Berichten: 737	En een dubbele copypaste nog wel!

29 september 2006, 08:28	#4
bob. Provinciaal Statenlid Geregistreerd: 11 mei 2004 Berichten: 790	Laat ons hopen dat ooit onze Europese leiders dezelfde moed aan de dag kunnen/willen leggen zoals de Australische dan doen. Het islamitisch experiment is namelijk véééééééééééééééél te ver gegaan. At your service

29 september 2006, 10:02	#6
Bhairav Perm. Vertegenwoordiger VN Geregistreerd: 11 juli 2004 Berichten: 18.955	Het gemiddeld IQ in Australie ligt onder 100.

29 september 2006, 10:30	#8
benarty Burger Geregistreerd: 16 september 2006 Berichten: 177	Je kan nu eenmaal niet ontkennen dat er een religueuze clash onstaat als Europa passief blijft reageren. Turkije erbij is het domste, maar dan ook het domste wat Europa kan doen. Natuurlijk is veralgemenen gevaarlijk maar dat ze inderdaad wat tegen het doen en laten van de europese burger is gewoon buitengooien. Het multicultureel model werkt niet als je het op globaal niveau hanteerd, dus mensen de facto de mogelijkheid laat om te emmigreren en vast te roesten in hun eigen daden en gewoontes en daarbij nog eens samenklitten..ghettovorming dus. En helaas, pech voor diegene die wel goed integreren.

29 september 2006, 12:25	#12
Bhairav Perm. Vertegenwoordiger VN Geregistreerd: 11 juli 2004 Berichten: 18.955	Vlaanderen moet dus ook achterlijk worden?

29 september 2006, 13:30	#14
djimi Secretaris-Generaal VN Geregistreerd: 3 januari 2006 Locatie: Brussels Hoofdstedelijk Gewest Berichten: 34.195	Tja, die Australiërs met hun 'eigen land' hebben het natuurlijk wèl eerst moeten afpakken ( = stelen ) van de oorspronkelijke bewoners, hé.

29 september 2006, 13:40	#15
Uh-Huh Banneling Geregistreerd: 8 juli 2006 Locatie: "A" Berichten: 7.491	Voor allochtonen, die de oorspronkelijke bevolking (=aboriginals) hebben verdreven en uitgemoord, vind ik dit toch wel straffe uitspraken.