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Oud 23 oktober 2006, 12:45   #1
Steven
 
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Standaard Diplomaat zegt per ongeluk de waarheid

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- A senior State Department diplomat apologized Sunday
for having told the Arab satellite network Al-Jazeera on Saturday that
there is a strong possibility history will show the United States
displayed "arrogance" and "stupidity" in its handling of the Iraq war.

"Upon reading the transcript of my appearance on Al-Jazeera, I realized
that I seriously misspoke by using the phrase 'there has been arrogance
and stupidity' by the U.S. in Iraq," Alberto Fernandez said in an e-mail
sent to reporters by the State Department and attributed to him.

"This represents neither my views nor those of the State Department. I
apologize," the statement said.


=============================

Je vraagt je af wat hij dan werkelijk gezegd heeft...


--
Steven

 
Oud 23 oktober 2006, 12:55   #2
Wim
 
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"Steven" <[email protected]> schreef in bericht
news:[email protected]...
> WASHINGTON (CNN) -- A senior State Department diplomat apologized Sunday
> for having told the Arab satellite network Al-Jazeera on Saturday that
> there is a strong possibility history will show the United States
> displayed "arrogance" and "stupidity" in its handling of the Iraq war.
>
> "Upon reading the transcript of my appearance on Al-Jazeera, I realized
> that I seriously misspoke by using the phrase 'there has been arrogance
> and stupidity' by the U.S. in Iraq," Alberto Fernandez said in an e-mail
> sent to reporters by the State Department and attributed to him.
>
> "This represents neither my views nor those of the State Department. I
> apologize," the statement said.
>
>
> =============================
>
> Je vraagt je af wat hij dan werkelijk gezegd heeft...


'there has been arrogance and stupidity' by the U.S. in Iraq

Hij heeft het wel gezegd, maar het is niet zijn mening ofzo.

Wim


 
Oud 23 oktober 2006, 12:55   #3
Z.O.Z.
 
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"Wim" <[email protected]> schreef in bericht
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Steven" <[email protected]> schreef in bericht
> news:[email protected]...
>> WASHINGTON (CNN) -- A senior State Department diplomat apologized Sunday
>> for having told the Arab satellite network Al-Jazeera on Saturday that
>> there is a strong possibility history will show the United States
>> displayed "arrogance" and "stupidity" in its handling of the Iraq war.
>>
>> "Upon reading the transcript of my appearance on Al-Jazeera, I realized
>> that I seriously misspoke by using the phrase 'there has been arrogance
>> and stupidity' by the U.S. in Iraq," Alberto Fernandez said in an e-mail
>> sent to reporters by the State Department and attributed to him.
>>
>> "This represents neither my views nor those of the State Department. I
>> apologize," the statement said.
>>
>>
>> =============================
>>
>> Je vraagt je af wat hij dan werkelijk gezegd heeft...

>
> 'there has been arrogance and stupidity' by the U.S. in Iraq
>
> Hij heeft het wel gezegd, maar het is niet zijn mening ofzo.


Hij wilde dus eigenlijk wat anders zeggen, maar wat dan?


 
Oud 23 oktober 2006, 13:05   #4
Steven
 
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Wim wrote:

> "Steven" <[email protected]> schreef:
>
>> WASHINGTON (CNN) -- A senior State Department diplomat apologized Sunday
>> for having told the Arab satellite network Al-Jazeera on Saturday that
>> there is a strong possibility history will show the United States
>> displayed "arrogance" and "stupidity" in its handling of the Iraq war.
>>
>> "Upon reading the transcript of my appearance on Al-Jazeera, I realized
>> that I seriously misspoke by using the phrase 'there has been arrogance
>> and stupidity' by the U.S. in Iraq," Alberto Fernandez said in an e-mail
>> sent to reporters by the State Department and attributed to him.
>>
>> "This represents neither my views nor those of the State Department. I
>> apologize," the statement said.
>>
>>
>> =============================
>>
>> Je vraagt je af wat hij dan werkelijk gezegd heeft...

>
> 'there has been arrogance and stupidity' by the U.S. in Iraq
>
> Hij heeft het wel gezegd, maar het is niet zijn mening ofzo.


Tja, waarom zeg je het dan? Tourette?


--
Steven

 
Oud 23 oktober 2006, 13:05   #5
star chidia
 
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Steven wrote:
> WASHINGTON (CNN) -- A senior State Department diplomat apologized Sunday
> for having told the Arab satellite network Al-Jazeera on Saturday that
> there is a strong possibility history will show the United States
> displayed "arrogance" and "stupidity" in its handling of the Iraq war.
>
> "Upon reading the transcript of my appearance on Al-Jazeera, I realized
> that I seriously misspoke by using the phrase 'there has been arrogance
> and stupidity' by the U.S. in Iraq," Alberto Fernandez said in an e-mail
> sent to reporters by the State Department and attributed to him.
>
> "This represents neither my views nor those of the State Department. I
> apologize," the statement said.
>
>
> =============================
>
> Je vraagt je af wat hij dan werkelijk gezegd heeft...


Nee, de vraag is wiens visie hij wel weergaf.

 
Oud 23 oktober 2006, 13:05   #6
star chidia
 
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Steven wrote:
> WASHINGTON (CNN) -- A senior State Department diplomat apologized Sunday
> for having told the Arab satellite network Al-Jazeera on Saturday that
> there is a strong possibility history will show the United States
> displayed "arrogance" and "stupidity" in its handling of the Iraq war.
>
> "Upon reading the transcript of my appearance on Al-Jazeera, I realized
> that I seriously misspoke by using the phrase 'there has been arrogance
> and stupidity' by the U.S. in Iraq," Alberto Fernandez said in an e-mail
> sent to reporters by the State Department and attributed to him.
>
> "This represents neither my views nor those of the State Department. I
> apologize," the statement said.
>
>
> =============================
>
> Je vraagt je af wat hij dan werkelijk gezegd heeft...


Nee, de vraag is wiens visie hij volgens hemzelf wel weergaf.

 
Oud 23 oktober 2006, 13:05   #7
Steven
 
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star chidia wrote:

> Steven wrote:
>
>> WASHINGTON (CNN) -- A senior State Department diplomat apologized Sunday
>> for having told the Arab satellite network Al-Jazeera on Saturday that
>> there is a strong possibility history will show the United States
>> displayed "arrogance" and "stupidity" in its handling of the Iraq war.
>>
>> "Upon reading the transcript of my appearance on Al-Jazeera, I realized
>> that I seriously misspoke by using the phrase 'there has been arrogance
>> and stupidity' by the U.S. in Iraq," Alberto Fernandez said in an e-mail
>> sent to reporters by the State Department and attributed to him.
>>
>> "This represents neither my views nor those of the State Department. I
>> apologize," the statement said.
>>
>>
>> =============================
>>
>> Je vraagt je af wat hij dan werkelijk gezegd heeft...

>
> Nee, de vraag is wiens visie hij wel weergaf.


Hij zegt dat hij zich versprak. Een merkwaardige verspreking.
Ook zo merkwaardig dat het toevallig de waarheid is.

--
Steven

 
Oud 23 oktober 2006, 13:15   #8
Wim
 
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"Steven" <[email protected]> schreef in bericht
news:[email protected]...

>>> Je vraagt je af wat hij dan werkelijk gezegd heeft...

>>
>> 'there has been arrogance and stupidity' by the U.S. in Iraq
>>
>> Hij heeft het wel gezegd, maar het is niet zijn mening ofzo.

>
> Tja, waarom zeg je het dan? Tourette?


Ik vind het wel grappig

Wim

"Allons a la Tourette, mais pour changer ton nom"


 
Oud 23 oktober 2006, 13:15   #9
Wim
 
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"Z.O.Z." <z@z> schreef in bericht
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Wim" <[email protected]> schreef in bericht
> news:[email protected]...
>>
>> "Steven" <[email protected]> schreef in bericht
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> WASHINGTON (CNN) -- A senior State Department diplomat apologized Sunday
>>> for having told the Arab satellite network Al-Jazeera on Saturday that
>>> there is a strong possibility history will show the United States
>>> displayed "arrogance" and "stupidity" in its handling of the Iraq war.
>>>
>>> "Upon reading the transcript of my appearance on Al-Jazeera, I realized
>>> that I seriously misspoke by using the phrase 'there has been arrogance
>>> and stupidity' by the U.S. in Iraq," Alberto Fernandez said in an e-mail
>>> sent to reporters by the State Department and attributed to him.
>>>
>>> "This represents neither my views nor those of the State Department. I
>>> apologize," the statement said.
>>>
>>>
>>> =============================
>>>
>>> Je vraagt je af wat hij dan werkelijk gezegd heeft...

>>
>> 'there has been arrogance and stupidity' by the U.S. in Iraq
>>
>> Hij heeft het wel gezegd, maar het is niet zijn mening ofzo.

>
> Hij wilde dus eigenlijk wat anders zeggen, maar wat dan?


Nee, hij wilde echt dit zeggen, maar hij meende het alleen niet

(duidelijk toch? )

Wim


 
Oud 23 oktober 2006, 13:45   #10
Z.O.Z.
 
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"Wim" <[email protected]> schreef in bericht
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Z.O.Z." <z@z> schreef in bericht
> news:[email protected]...
>>
>> "Wim" <[email protected]> schreef in bericht
>> news:[email protected]...
>>>
>>> "Steven" <[email protected]> schreef in bericht
>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>> WASHINGTON (CNN) -- A senior State Department diplomat apologized
>>>> Sunday for having told the Arab satellite network Al-Jazeera on
>>>> Saturday that there is a strong possibility history will show the
>>>> United States displayed "arrogance" and "stupidity" in its handling of
>>>> the Iraq war.
>>>>
>>>> "Upon reading the transcript of my appearance on Al-Jazeera, I realized
>>>> that I seriously misspoke by using the phrase 'there has been arrogance
>>>> and stupidity' by the U.S. in Iraq," Alberto Fernandez said in an
>>>> e-mail sent to reporters by the State Department and attributed to him.
>>>>
>>>> "This represents neither my views nor those of the State Department. I
>>>> apologize," the statement said.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> =============================
>>>>
>>>> Je vraagt je af wat hij dan werkelijk gezegd heeft...
>>>
>>> 'there has been arrogance and stupidity' by the U.S. in Iraq
>>>
>>> Hij heeft het wel gezegd, maar het is niet zijn mening ofzo.

>>
>> Hij wilde dus eigenlijk wat anders zeggen, maar wat dan?

>
> Nee, hij wilde echt dit zeggen, maar hij meende het alleen niet
>
> (duidelijk toch? )


Ja maar ik probeer de "vergissing" te achterhalen, soms als men praat
vergeet men het woordje "niet" te zeggen en dan is de uitspraak opeens
geheel anders. Maar wat heeft hij hier verkeerd uitegsproken waardoor
we de "foute"indruk krijgen? Niets dus waarschijnlijk en meende hij het nog
ook.
Maar ja, de hogere baas roept je op het matje en dan moet je wel ontkennen.


 
Oud 23 oktober 2006, 14:55   #11
Steven
 
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Z.O.Z. wrote:

> "Wim" <[email protected]> schreef:
>
>> "Z.O.Z." <z@z> schreef:
>>
>>> "Wim" <[email protected]> schreef:
>>>
>>>> "Steven" <[email protected]> schreef:
>>>>
>>>>> WASHINGTON (CNN) -- A senior State Department diplomat apologized
>>>>> Sunday for having told the Arab satellite network Al-Jazeera on
>>>>> Saturday that there is a strong possibility history will show the
>>>>> United States displayed "arrogance" and "stupidity" in its handling of
>>>>> the Iraq war.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Upon reading the transcript of my appearance on Al-Jazeera, I realized
>>>>> that I seriously misspoke by using the phrase 'there has been arrogance
>>>>> and stupidity' by the U.S. in Iraq," Alberto Fernandez said in an
>>>>> e-mail sent to reporters by the State Department and attributed to him.
>>>>>
>>>>> "This represents neither my views nor those of the State Department. I
>>>>> apologize," the statement said.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> =============================
>>>>>
>>>>> Je vraagt je af wat hij dan werkelijk gezegd heeft...
>> >>
>>>> 'there has been arrogance and stupidity' by the U.S. in Iraq
>>>>
>>>> Hij heeft het wel gezegd, maar het is niet zijn mening ofzo.
>> >
>>> Hij wilde dus eigenlijk wat anders zeggen, maar wat dan?

>>
>> Nee, hij wilde echt dit zeggen, maar hij meende het alleen niet
>>
>> (duidelijk toch? )

>
> Ja maar ik probeer de "vergissing" te achterhalen, soms als men praat
> vergeet men het woordje "niet" te zeggen en dan is de uitspraak opeens
> geheel anders. Maar wat heeft hij hier verkeerd uitegsproken waardoor
> we de "foute"indruk krijgen? Niets dus waarschijnlijk en meende hij het nog
> ook.


Misschien is er sprake van wat Freud een fehlleistung noemde.

---8<---

--
Steven

 
Oud 23 oktober 2006, 21:35   #12
Jan Klaasen
 
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Steven schreef:
> WASHINGTON (CNN) -- A senior State Department diplomat apologized Sunday
> for having told the Arab satellite network Al-Jazeera on Saturday that
> there is a strong possibility history will show the United States
> displayed "arrogance" and "stupidity" in its handling of the Iraq war.
>
> "Upon reading the transcript of my appearance on Al-Jazeera, I realized
> that I seriously misspoke by using the phrase 'there has been arrogance
> and stupidity' by the U.S. in Iraq," Alberto Fernandez said in an e-mail
> sent to reporters by the State Department and attributed to him.
>
> "This represents neither my views nor those of the State Department. I
> apologize," the statement said.
>
>
> =============================
>
> Je vraagt je af wat hij dan werkelijk gezegd heeft...
>
>

Hij had de fouten van de regering moeten goedpraten en niet dit.
 
Oud 23 oktober 2006, 21:45   #13
Euker Voorn
 
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On Mon, 23 Oct 2006 13:51:42 +0200, "Z.O.Z." <z@z> wrote:

>
>"Wim" <[email protected]> schreef in bericht
>news:[email protected]...
>>
>> "Steven" <[email protected]> schreef in bericht
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> WASHINGTON (CNN) -- A senior State Department diplomat apologized Sunday
>>> for having told the Arab satellite network Al-Jazeera on Saturday that
>>> there is a strong possibility history will show the United States
>>> displayed "arrogance" and "stupidity" in its handling of the Iraq war.
>>>
>>> "Upon reading the transcript of my appearance on Al-Jazeera, I realized
>>> that I seriously misspoke by using the phrase 'there has been arrogance
>>> and stupidity' by the U.S. in Iraq," Alberto Fernandez said in an e-mail
>>> sent to reporters by the State Department and attributed to him.
>>>
>>> "This represents neither my views nor those of the State Department. I
>>> apologize," the statement said.
>>>
>>>
>>> =============================
>>>
>>> Je vraagt je af wat hij dan werkelijk gezegd heeft...

>>
>> 'there has been arrogance and stupidity' by the U.S. in Iraq
>>
>> Hij heeft het wel gezegd, maar het is niet zijn mening ofzo.

>
>Hij wilde dus eigenlijk wat anders zeggen, maar wat dan?


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