De nieuwe wereld orde

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En, mijn beste democratsteve?
Al bekeken hoezeer de NWO-believer en Chomsky-basher Daniel L. Abrahamson verknocht is aan de links-rechtshokjes?

Hij is dat helemaal niet, u interpreteert dat verkeerd. Abrahamson noemt linksen linksen omdat deze mensen zich inderdaad links noemen. Er zijn wel degelijk strekkingen zoals links en rechts natuurlijk, en het is dan ook maar normaal dat men ze zo noemt. Mensen die iemand direct in links en rechts gaan steken vanuit hun vooroordeel zijn inderdaad hokjesdenkers. Abrahamson doet dit niet vanuit vooroordeel, maar gewoon om ze aan te duiden. Voor Abrahamson is links net zo een controlemechnisme van de NWO. Chomsky is de linkse inteleectueel die voor gecontroleerde oppositie zorgt vanuit het linkse kamp.

Op een bepaald niveau is er geen links en rechts meer , maar enkel de heersende elite waarbij deze min of meer tegenpolen (links en rechts) zeer handig zijn om de focus van de echte macht weg te houden.

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Hij is dat helemaal niet, u interpreteert dat verkeerd. Abrahamson noemt linksen linksen omdat deze mensen zich inderdaad links noemen. Er zijn wel degelijk strekkingen zoals links en rechts natuurlijk, en het is dan ook maar normaal dat men ze zo noemt. Mensen die iemand direct in links en rechts gaan steken vanuit hun vooroordeel zijn inderdaad hokjesdenkers. Abrahamson doet dit niet vanuit vooroordeel, maar gewoon om ze aan te duiden. Voor Abrahamson is links net zo een controlemechnisme van de NWO. Chomsky is de linkse inteleectueel die voor gecontroleerde oppositie zorgt vanuit het linkse kamp.

Op een bepaald niveau is er geen links en rechts meer , maar enkel de heersende elite waarbij deze min of meer tegenpolen (links en rechts) zeer handig zijn om de focus van de echte macht weg te houden.

Ja, wat u denkt over links en rechts en het links=rechtse NWO-amalgaam weten we onderhand wel. Ik stelde de vraag aan “democratsteve” die zelf geen NWO-believer is maar toch scheen te ontkennen dat Abrahamson met zijn alom in rechste kringen gekopieerde en geciteerde aanval op Chomsky een hatelijke uithaal deed naar alles wat zich links noemt.
Maar democratsteve schijnt zich nog te beraden op zijn antwoord. Hij mag voor mij gerust zijn tijd nemen, maar ik hoop wel op een antwoord.

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Ja, wat u denkt over links en rechts en het links=rechtse NWO-amalgaam weten we onderhand wel. Ik stelde de vraag aan “democratsteve” die zelf geen NWO-believer is maar toch scheen te ontkennen dat Abrahamson met zijn alom in rechste kringen gekopieerde en geciteerde aanval op Chomsky een hatelijke uithaal deed naar alles wat zich links noemt.
Maar democratsteve schijnt zich nog te beraden op zijn antwoord. Hij mag voor mij gerust zijn tijd nemen, maar ik hoop wel op een antwoord.

Helemaal niet, ik dacht gewoon dat het niet de moeite loonde te antwoorden.
Maar aangezien u aandringt. Lees toch nog maar eens WAT ik schreef??
Niet dat wat jij nu komt vertellen.
Mijn antwoord was op de post van u waarin u stelde:

Wat ik wil aantonen heb ik net gezegd (herlees mijn post n° 5239), namelijk dat de Amerikaanse NWO-believers tot het (extreem)rechtse kamp behoren. De wijze waarop ze Noam Chomsky aanvallen bewijst dat voldoende.

Ik ontkende dus niks van wat jij nu in je laatst post komt beweren, he.
Ik maakte er u enkel attent op dat er ook vele NWO “believers” zijn die kritiek uiten op (extreem) rechts, wat betekent dat UW stelling niet opgaat.
Duidelijk genoeg?
Voor de rest kan ik me aansluiten op wat exodus u antwoordde.

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Big Brother Surveillance in London....






http://infowars.net/articles/april20...06watching.htm

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Nogmaals, "mijn stelling" was, als repliek op één van je uitspraken, dat er wel degelijk "sprake was" van fraude bij de 2004 verkiezingen ... Dat heb ik ondertussen al bewezen dacht ik.

Neen.

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Interessant artikel dat de vergelijking maakt tussen de NWO en een partij schaak.

Have you ever felt frustrated with being forced to play a game you didn't want to participate in? You know you have something important to do, but someone is for some reason convincing you that you have to play the game. You think to yourself; "playing Monopoly can't possibly be more important than what I actually need to do". You may sigh, be a little irritated and reluctantly accept, thinking you can do the important things later. However, later on when you are trying to pick up where you left out, you find that someone else is forcing you to play yet another game you don't feel like playing. With other words, you never seem to get your things done.

Under those circumstances, at least you know that you are being pulled. How about if there was a game that you participate in, and you don't even know it? A game in which you set no rules whatsoever, but someone else does it for you, and you are not even aware of it. The game may even be so sophisticated that you think that you are setting the rules. In this game the goal is to create total control and enslavement of the losers. This game actually exists, and I call it "Global Chess".


Global Chess is the game where a few Elite players, the so called Illuminati or Moriah are setting the rules, being the ones who move the rest of the players on the chess board. You and I and most of the global population are the Pawns. The Illuminati are the Game Creators, who play both sides of the game,and the rest of us, players on different levels, are the pieces on the Chess Board. There is an illusion that the chess game has two opposite sides, black and white, but that is only an illusion. Both the black and the white pieces have the same goal, and it doesn't matter which side wins. Both sides are controlled by the same Masters, the Game Creators. The illusion of opposite sides in the game is only put there to make the game more interesting for the players on the chess board (or more traumatic if you want). Here we have the wars and conflicts of the world. As the Creators control both sides; whomever wins, it serves the Masters anyway.

Imagine a Chess Game that has been played since ancient times, from generation to generation, and you would have what I call "Global Chess".

The game of Chess translates pretty well to the global scene. Most of the players on the Chess Board don't even know that the Game Creators, who remotely and secretly move the pieces, exist. They are above the game, and the players (us) believe that we are creating the game as we go along; that is if we even know we are part of the game. Just like in Chess, we can translate the pieces to different functions, to make the analogy more visualized:

The King: This would be the Presidents, Kings, dictators, prime ministers of the different countries.

]The Queen: Same thing, but the female aspect of it.

The Rooks: The covens, castles, churches, and other locations where occult rituals of the secret societies are practiced.

The Bishops: The religious leaders; the gurus of cults and sects; the Grand Masters and/or higher initiates of the Secret Societies, like the Freemasons and others; the Chief Directors of Mass Media and Business; high- and middle level politicians etc..

The Knights: Those are the knights of the secret societies, the initiates on lower or middle levels; members of cults and religions; the Mass Media - no one knowing what is really going on, but used by any of the above to accomplish a goal they are not aware of.

The Pawns: The rest of the population, the sheeple, who know absolutely nothing and are totally caught up in the game, not understanding how to end it and that there is a game in existence at all. The pawns are all "disposable", used for accomplishing movements towards checkmate; the end of the civilization as we know it. If necessary, you can suspend them, if the suspension leads to that the game moves forward. Sometimes, like in war, the Pawns are used carelessly and are killed in thousands without accomplishing anything in ratio to the loss, but according to the Game Creators, this is nothing to worry about. They have lots of more Pawns to play with, and when the game is won, most of the Pawnsare not needed anyway.

If we expand this analogy, we can see that even the Kings and Queens are not the decision makers. Even they answer to the Game Creators, who pull the strings and move the pieces. The higher up in the hierarchy of the Chess Game, the more careful the Game Creators are to protect their players, but if necessary, they can still sacrifice them. However, they are treated with more respect than for example the Pawns.

With this still in mind we can take a look at the world situation. Now we can hopefully see that we are all stuck in a game we did not create, but somewhere along the line agreed to play in; consciously or unconsciously. Although I call it Global Chess the Illuminati call it the New World Order. The game has come creeping upon us through the eons, and we, the players, have been created and played with little by little, bit by bit, in effort to create a game where the players are not aware they are part of it. Because if the players had their own ideas of how the game should be played, the Game Creators would have a harder time to win - and win they must; otherwise, if they lose, the game itself will hit them hard - very hard, and they don't want that to happen, of course. Therefore they have to be brutal and ruthless to avoid us players to understand the real meaning of the game.

How do you create a game where the pieces and players are not aware of that a game is going on? Well, it is quite tricky and it takes a long long time to accomplish a checkmate in a game like that (it has taken thousands of years to come this far). The Creators definitely would like it to be over and done much faster, but that would jeopardize their own safety. The players (and the players are many in numbers) can easily outdo the Creators or the game. There is a chance this would happen, especially when the outcome of the game is contrary to what the pieces and players of the game want. The Creators need to be very careful and covert. The best thing is to hide and be as invisible as possible, or pretend their role in the game is different from what it really is. Therefore they keep a very low profile, and even dedicate themselves to charity (many of them are philanthropists) to balance their evil and to fool the players in the game. When the Rooks and the Bishops are attacked by the Pawns, the Creators have taught the Bishops to save the game by referring to the illusion of good that the Game Creators are doing on a daily basis, while the evil purpose of the game is well hidden behind this front illusion. This will fool the majority of the pieces, and those who don't easily get fooled will be ridiculed by the other players, and shown "proof" that the players on the higher levels of the hierarchy are doing good things that benefit the lower levels; "proof" implanted by those who don't want the truth to be known.

Now, the Game Creators are not stupid. They know that when so many pieces and players are part of the game (and they need to control them all), there are always a few players who will not follow the rules of the game, and there will be those who don't want to play anymore and who start opposing the game. This is not acceptable, because although the game is complicated and there are games within games, all those chess games need to have the same goals and outcome. We are not allowed to change the rules without permission from the Creators, and we can definitely not quit and/or go against the rules. This was another hard thing for the Creators to prevent and think of a solution for. So they brainstormed about it, knowing it would take too much of their time and effort to take care of those "rebellions" themselves, especially as the Creators still are outnumbered. The rebellions could be dangerous to the game in the long run. However, the brainstorming had a brilliant outcome. The Creators decided to let the players police each other, so everybody could be "kept in check". To be able to accomplish this, the players need to be lied to constantly, and deceived regularly. It also means that it is very important that no one - not even the Top Players of the game (the Kings, Queens, and the Bishops), know the truth - only the Creators. So by implanting an illusion of reality (done via media) and hiding all information that would jeopardize the outcome of the game, the few could beat the many. Even better, why not reverse everything? Say that good is evil and evil is good! This way the Creators, who don't have the players' best interest in mind, can be the good guys, and those who oppose the game can be the bad guys. Brilliant! The Creators were pretty satisfied with themselves and implemented those new ideas into the game.


It worked beyond expectations! For a while...


Suddenly they noticed that the players had too much time at their convenience, which created a problem. Too many players had too much time to think, and lo and behold! If this would continue, too many players could come together and destroy the game!!! New brainstorming, new brilliant ideas ... The Creators need to keep the players real busy with playing the game, and give them basically no time to do anything else than playing. This means they had to change the rules a little bit, so the players became so busy playing the game which they didn't know they were playing; they had no time to think.

The Creators also noticed, much to their satisfaction, that even though more and more players started finding out that something was wrong, they didn't do anything to change the rules or oppose the game. Why? Because they had no time(!) A few players, who did not have the time either, took the time anyway and started informing and educated the rest of what was actually going on, and told them about the game that only a few want to play. Those "rebellious Pawns" thought it would be an easy thing to educate the rest to leave the game and be free to do whatever they wanted to, but to their surprise they noticed that the contrary was true. Many players could no longer see the truth even if it was pointed out to them. They were so well policed by other players to believe differently, they were scared what other players would think, they were afraid of being ridiculed, so they in their turn started attacking the rebellions, who wanted everybody to be free and happy. Other players could see that the rebellions were right, but they were so busy playing the game that they had no time to care. They had been taught that if they leave the game, bad things will happen and they will not survive. So they figured it would be much easier to play it safe and keep things the way they are.

This is where we stand today: more and more people are finding out about this game being orchestrated above their heads, but few are doing anything. We are at a point where the Creators, the Illuminati, are so arrogant about it that they no longer care to stop the rebellions, unless one or two of them become too much of a threat. They think that their plan is so well mastered that the problem will take care of itself, like described above, and the players are too stupid to be a threat to them. They consider themselves being the shepherds, who keep the sheep in the fold. With people policing each other, been threatened with fear and terror for so long, and being so busy taking care of their lives and struggles, the Illuminati count upon the mind controlled masses to take care of the rebellions, so they don't have to do it themselves. Unfortunately they are partly right.

We all know how busy we are, and we all feel insecure about the future for ourselves and our children, but only because this is the nature of the game; the way it is set up. Hardly nobody has enough money or resources to feel safe, and benefits and security is being cut back on, world wide. Therefore we work constantly to make enough for a living, and to perhaps put something aside for the future when we are retired. Because we fear that the society will not take care of us (even though we are paying taxes), and Illuminati created terrorism is put upon us, life becomes very hard and unsafe. Then, when someone tells us we have to let go off all that we are doing to safeguard ourselves, to be able to be free, few believe it, or are willing to take that chance.

But the above insecurity and struggle is only true as long as we are playing the Chess Game. We need to ask ourselves: why do we struggle so much when there is so much money in the world and an abundance of food? It only makes sense if we know that someone wants it to be that way. A sane government could easily change things around, but they don't. Don't we need to ask ourselves why this is? Isn't it time to re-evaluate our beliefs? Do things really go in the right direction?

The only reason bad conditions persist is because someone wants them to persist and is working very hard to keep them there. We have to ask ourselves who this "somebody" really is. Is it maybe Saddam Hussein? Or is it George Bush, perhaps al-Qaeda? No. "Evil-doers" as one evil-doer so well described himself and others, are only players in the Chess Game. Players can be replaced, and are eliminated regularly when they have played their part, for other "evil-doers" to come up front. Players are put on the Chess Board by the Game Creators to enhance the game, and the way to stop the evil game is not to eliminate the "evil-doers", but to stop the Creators from continuing the game. We can easily do that if we come together. We outnumber them by billions, and the game could be over in an instant if we really dared to break our patterns and stop playing their silly power-game. I truly believe that man is good, and if the invisible evil was eliminated, we would be free to create our own games, where everybody wins. I am not promoting violence, as I don't believe that the end justifies the means, but I do believe the Illuminati needs to be stopped immediately. I am not saying we should kill anybody; this has been done enough already, we just want to "disarm" them. And we need to do it NOW, before we all become checkmate.

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Interessant artikel dat de vergelijking maakt tussen de NWO en een partij schaak.

Kort: We zijn pionnen op een spelletje schaak, en dat is de absolute waarheid, want welk feit op het schaakbord ge ook bekijkt, het is altijd in het voordeel van de illuminati.

Ik moet toegeven dat ze hun kritiek al op voorhand goed hebben leren counteren. Vergelijkingen zijn immers altijd onderhevig aan imperfectie...

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Interessant artikel over Bill Clinton en het toont aan welke criminelen er aan de top staan. Als je denkt dat Bill Clinton ijvert voor vrede en een plichtsbewuste leider is die inzit met de mensheid think again.

[SIZE=6]M[/SIZE]ost people think that the biggest felony made by Bill Clinton might be that he swore falsely under oath in the Lewinsky affair. But this is peanuts compared to the real crimes, yet undetected by most American people.

[SIZE=2]THE OXFORD DAYS

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[SIZE=2]It was in Oxford as a student Clinton came to hear about the One World Government for the first time, and what was required to be a member of this New World Order. In an interview in 1994 Clinton said that he'd known about the "Shadow-government" already in his youth, and had been very enthusiastic to get an entrance into the "Inner Circle" and from there have the opportunity to participate in decisions regarding the future of the world.

He succeeded! The "President-maker" David Rockefeller met Clinton in the mid 80's in Arkansas to prepare him for what was to come. The State of Arkansas, by the way, is a major seat for the Brotherhood elite. The south branch of the Scottish Rite of Freemasonry has its center here, and from this area Albert Pike (33 degree Freemason) helped creating the Knights of the Golden Circle, the infamous Ku Klux Klan.[/SIZE]

Lees verder op:

http://www.illuminati-news.com/bill-clinton's-criminal-background.htm

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Een verder staaltje van de "goede wil" en de "consequente houding" van turkje:

Eerst vraagt hij

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Nu kunt u dus zelf kiezen: ofwel volgt er weer zo'n lekkere tirade van uwentwege, ofwel doet u eens een poging tot discussie waarbij u nièt vertrekt van de premisse dat u alle wijsheid bij voorbaat al in pacht hebt 8)

Ik antwoord:

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Ok, we zullen het nog eens proper proberen...

Nogmaals, "mijn stelling" was, als repliek op één van je uitspraken, dat er wel degelijk "sprake was" van fraude bij de 2004 verkiezingen ... Dat heb ik ondertussen al bewezen dacht ik. Er zijn honderden links terug te vinden daaromtrent. Ik heb er ééntje gegeven. Ik meen dat we daarover akkoord kunnen gaan??

Nu vraag je mij te bewijzen dat er "effectief" fraude heeft plaatsgegrepen. Ik moet dus iets bewijzen wat ik niet gezegd heb... Mijn antwoord is dan als volgt: er zijn links genoeg van serieuze en minder serieuze bronnen die daar tijd en energie in gestopt hebben en jij kan die evengoed vinden en lezen als ik. Kan ik zelf bewijzen produceren van fraude? Neen, uiteraard niet. Waarom zou ik beter denken te kunnen doen dan die bronnen? We kunnen dan vervallen in een discussie over de bronnen zelf, discussie voeren om de discussie zelf, louter ter demonstratie van dossierkennis, etc . Ik ben dat stadium al lang voorbij en zie daar het nut niet van in. Ik heb er overigens geen probleem mee dat u niet gelooft in de fraude.

Wat is mijn punt dan, waar kunnen we wel over discussieren?
uw punt: er is geen sprake geweest van fraude;
mijn punt: er is wel degelijk sprake geweest van fraude, ik hou die mogelijkheid zeer zeker open.

Die nuance is m.i. enorm belangrijk en heeft tal van implicaties waarover we al dan niet kunnen discussieren, als je er zin in hebt om dat op constructieve wijze te doen. Maar uw denigrerende reacties her en der op o.a. de inside job mogelijkheid doen al vermoeden dat je er nog niet klaar voor bent!

En dan komt de bekende truuk met de waterpijp:

Hij isoleert uit mijn bovenstaande antwoord, in zijn inmiddels gekende stijl:

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Nogmaals, "mijn stelling" was, als repliek op één van je uitspraken, dat er wel degelijk "sprake was" van fraude bij de 2004 verkiezingen ... Dat heb ik ondertussen al bewezen dacht ik.

Zijn enige antwoord tot dusver (we zijn een paar dagen verder):

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Neen.

Moet ik voor meneer hier opnieuw de links gaan plaatsen die spreken over fraude?? Speel met uw eigen waterpijp hé kerel.

Conclusie: Ik heb het al gezegd hé... goede wil, intellectuele eerlijkheid en een beetje wijsheid zijn bij hem niet te vinden, terug over naar de tirades dan maar?


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Een verder staaltje van de "goede wil" en de "consequente houding" van turkje.

Ons hoef je niet meer te overtuigen ...
... Turkje discussieert niet graag
... Hij gaat niet graag in gesprek
...

Let it be and you'll feel a lot better

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China is een typevoorbeeld van hoe de NWO het wil. De doelstellingen van de NWO zijn in dat land al het verst gevorderd. Zoals NWO frontman David Rockefeller eens zei in de jaren 70:

"One is impressed immediately by the sense of national harmony....There is a very real and pervasive dedication to chairman Mao and Maoist principles. Whatever the price of the Chinese Revolution, it has obviously succeeded not only in producing more efficient and dedicated administration, but also in fostering high morale and community purpose. General social and economic progress is no less impressive....The enormous social advances of China have benefited greatly from the singleness of ideology and purpose....The social experiment in China under Chairman Mao's leadership is one of the most important and successful in history."

Natuurlijk was de Chinese revolutie in gang gezete door NWO actoren. Rockefeller geeft zelf toe dat het een experiment is. Waarom spreekt een zogenaamde Westerse kapitalist over het communistische China als een succesvol experiment? De NWO in actie.

Onderstaande artikel gaat in op deze facetten waar het individu ondergeschikt is aan de machinisaties van de staat.

[SIZE=4]China: New World Order Litmus Test[/SIZE]


Can the police state crush widespread popular resistance?


Steve Watson & Alex Jones | April 18 2006


We have long documented how China is the New World Order Blueprint for a controlled Police State Surveillance Dictatorship.
The elite have even admitted, in their own documents, how they wish to emulate the chinese model and apply it in the Anglo-American Western block.


Sky News recently produced a segment which highlighted how, despite fierce anger and resistance amongst the people of China, the Communist Government has instilled such fear and has such control over the media that very few dare to stand up and speak out. Those that do are forcibly quashed.


The Government and its contractors are seizing people's land and homes and building their own developments on it, forcing the population into living lives of poverty and squalor.


The state controlled Chinese media does not cover this because they know they would be immediately shut down if they did. The only footage that comes out of China is shot by the people themselves or undercover foreign reporters.
These revelations should remind us of the fact that tyrannical governments, in order to succeed know they have to infiltrate the lives of their populations to every degree, not allowing any form of self sufficiency or independence to endanger their iron fist control.
In a startling reminder of how much closer we are to the Chinese model than we are distant from it, the US the Supreme Court has already decided that local governments can force property owners to sell out and make way for private economic development when officials decide it would benefit the public, even if the property is not blighted, and the new project's success is not guaranteed.


The true details of this situation were not picked up on by the mainstream media, just as they are not being reported in Communist China.
A recent Virginia training manual used to help state employees recognize terrorists even lists property rights activists as terrorists and includes binoculars, video cameras, pads and notebooks in a compendium of terrorist tools.


under section 802 of the Patriot Act any crime or misdemeanor that endangers human life can be considered terroristic. I guess protesting against the government grabbing your land can be included under this umbrella.





This is just one of many horror stories to emerge from the Communist Chinese police state in recent times. The total dehumanization in China is the elite model for a prison control grid across the planet.
Last year the London Guardian reported that Chinese cosmetics companies are using skin harvested from the corpses of executed convicts to develop beauty products for sale in Europe.


Stories of organ harvesting are widespread and confirmed by multiple mainstream sources, yet the state department, even contradicting it's own reports, suggested that it is an "urban myth"
China also still has a policy of public execution for dissidents. The country has flirted with mobile execution vans as it shifts away from the communist system's traditional bullet in the head, towards a more "civilized" use of lethal injection.
The issues of forced sterilization and forced abortion have also recently resurfaced in the Communist country. Despite withdrawing some funds for these policies, the Bush administration still bankrolls UNESCO projects which have had direct links to forced abortions and sterilizations.
Recently Dr Eric Pianka, a top University of Texas professor, advocated such policies when he said that China's one child policy, enforced by a brutal police state, was a good thing.


Censorship is widespread in China with, particularly since the advent of the internet. The state has introduced cartoon cyber cops in an attempt to make the totalitarian regime internet-user friendly. In reality the characters are there to warn the people that Big Brother is watching them.
The Internet police icons have been responsible for a 60% decline in the filtering of Internet postings for content challenging the political order.
The sites that cannot be patrolled are simply shut down. New rules have been issued banning Internet news services from inciting illegal assemblies, marches and demonstrations as well as prohibiting activities on behalf of unauthorized civil groups.


In a startlingly similar fashion, laws have been passed in both the UK and the US to impose "free speech zones" and bans upon any demonstrations that have not been okayed by the authorities beforehand.




The search engine company Google has also attracted controversy recently by pandering to the Communist police state and agreeing to install government search filters on its Chinese based search engine.
Not even the Rolling Stones could escape censorship when they toured in China. However, the Stones were censored TO A GREATER DEGREE when they played the Superbowl half time show in the US. I guess if its good for the totalitarian Chinese rulers, its good for the sweet Neocons.
Since 2003 China has recorded details of more than 96 percent of its population on a police database, supplementing Internet and other state-sanctioned surveillance. The state is also to issue 1.3 billion RFID identification cards.


Terrible you would agree, yet in Britain currently there is a program underway to add 100% of the population to a national database. The ID card act has been passed and, by 2008, anyone who requires a passport (and access to healthcare, education and the ability to buy or sell no doubt) MUST be registered and must carry an ID card.


In addition, Under current UK laws, if you are arrested for any recordable offence, police are allowed to take your fingerprints and a sample your DNA. Even if you are subsequently released and found innocent, police can still keep your DNA, which is added to a PERMANENT database.
Worse still, hundreds of thousands of children aged between 10 and 18 have had their DNA added to the database despite never being cautioned or charged for any offence.
When it's China our governments agree such policies are dehumanizing, demoralizing and degrading, yet when it happens in our own countries that's just fine and dandy.
Furthermore, in the leading police state regime in the world and the benchmark for the new world order control system, surveillance still lags behind that of the UK, with Chinese authorities learning lessons from the Orwellian surveillance capital of the world.


"In this regard we've taken particular note of England, where basically everyone lives under the electronic eye," Mayor Xu Zhongheng of Shenzhen has said, remarking how important surveillance cameras were in tracking down the perpetrators of attacks on the London transport system last year.
Were they important? Really? That's not what we were told. We were told that the cameras WERE NOT FUNCTIONING.






The Chinese model is the benchmark test for the prison planet, as the state becomes more powerful and the people there become more downtrodden, more controlled and less able to resist, we see the same policies being transferred to our own countries. In many cases our countries are now even preceding China in their police state tactics.
Furthermore our own economies and infrastructures are being systematically sold out to the Chinese government.


Recently the Associated Press reported that Hutchison Whampoa Ltd was given a no-bid contract by the US government to take over radiation detecting security just 65 miles away from Freeport in the Bahamas with no oversight. Hutchinson Whampoa is admittedly a holding of the Chinese navy and the People's Liberation Army.


In 1997 the Communist Chinese government took over the Long Beach Naval Air Base, the only major deep water port that can take large ships on the west coast. In 2000, the Communist Chinese, Hutchinson Whampoa which is run by the PLA, took over the Panama Canal and has stationed between 15,000 and 30,000 troops at the facility.
Topping even that, U.S. taxpayers are lending Westinghouse Electric Co. almost $5 billion to build nuclear power plants in China.
American tax money is directly funding the might of the Chinese Red Army despite the fact that we are told over and over that they are the future military threat and despite top Chinese generals continue to threaten nuclear attacks on America.


Alex Jones' first documentary film America: Destroyed By Design, made in 1997, warned Americans that the sell-out to the Chinese was the first step on the road to the sacking of the American economy and pulling the plug on key US infrastructure.


Click here to view a segment where Alex Jones discusses the Chinese sell-out.


It is a stated goal of the Bilderberg Group, the Trilateral Commission and the CFR to promote what they call 'interdependence' and to lobby governments to sell off key infrastructure such as roads, lakes, ports, and highways to international corporations so that corporations can grow to be bigger in size than government.


People everywhere are not just being robbed of their ability to create wealth, we are being robbed of our infrastructure, our land and our capacity to work the land. Our currencies, our futures and our sovereignties are systematically being dismantled, looted and sold to the highest bidder by the corrupt elite and the corporations and governments they control like chess pieces.

[Pindar]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door straddle

Hoi Pindar,



Yup, ik heb een 4 tal van zijn boeken gelezen en vind hem ook vrij interessant. Hij is in elk geval bijzonder goed gedocumenteerd. In het bovenstaand interview komt hij in het begin idd vrij goed over omdat hij zich aan de hoofdidee van zijn werk houdt en echt de essentie aanduidt.



Hij is echter heel controversieel hier in Engeland, en ook ik kan niet meteen alles slikken wat hij verkondigt en bepaalde zaken laat ik gewoon open. Ik distantieer mij echter van zijn reptielentheorie (jij dan weer niet, maar dat is geen probleem voor mij), maar voor de rest vind ik de kern van zijn werk zeer interessant en slaat hij de nagel op de kop.

Tsja, ik vind dat iedereen vrij is te denken wat ie wil.
Aan het forum hier te zien zijn we nog lang niet zover!
maar swoa.
Over de reptielentheorie heb ik al een en ander gezet hier op de thread.
En voor mij is de 'reptielen-theorie' (wat nog niet eens het hele verhaal is)
"the crux of the matter'. o.m. ivm de satanische rituelen.
Verder heb ik contact met 1 iemand in USA die mensen heeft ge-de-programmeerd, die geprogrammeerd zijn door deze 'reptielen'.
Die persoon heeft heel veel info verkrijgen over de illuminati tijdens het de-programmeren. verder 'ken' ik nog een iemand die uit de illuminati is gestapt en ook hij zegt dat we door shape-shiftende reptielen worden
'geleid'. Nou ja, belazerd is een beter woord.
Door dit en wat andere persoonlijke ervaringen ben ik er van overtuigd
dat dit verhaal klopt. Komt iemand met een beter verhaal dan ruil ik hem zo in. Maar als je er naar durft te kijken zijn de aanwijzingen joekels groot.





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[Pindar]

It's a wonderful world!

[SIZE="3"]Whistleblower reveals extent of AT&T spying role [/SIZE]

'Last week, new accounts describing in detail the role that telecommunications giant AT&T has played in providing the government with warrantless information gathered on average citizens. Former technician Mark Klein has come out in support of the Electronic Frontier Foundation's lawsuit, which is summed up by the EFF here:
"The evidence that we are filing supports our claim that AT&T is diverting Internet traffic into the hands of the NSA wholesale, in violation of federal wiretapping laws and the Fourth Amendment," said EFF Staff Attorney Kevin Bankston. "More than just threatening individuals' privacy, AT&T's apparent choice to give the government secret, direct access to millions of ordinary Americans' Internet communications is a threat to the Constitution itself. We are asking the Court to put a stop to it now."'

LvKenA: http://www.alternet.org/blogs/themix/34733/





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[Pindar]

[SIZE="5"]eyes wide shut!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/SIZE]

en terwijl dit gebeurt, discussieren we er over, sic!!!

[SIZE="2"]Mass Graves Of Children Found Near Montreal - Another Victim Tells Of Being Tortured As A Child In CIA Programs Using Nazi Doctors [/SIZE]

Pierre Sampson, 60, of Vancouver, Canada endured the torturous treatment for six long years until at the age of 14 when he finally escaped. But thousands of other Duplessis Orphans weren't as lucky, as investigators recently uncovered a mass grave outside of Montreal where the bones of hundreds of children are buried.
Called the "pigsty" since the grave site is located next to a hog farm, Rod Vienneau, whose wife was also a child victim, said a push is now underway to exhume the bodies with strong resistance from governments on both side of the border, both denying any involvement in the face of compelling evidence to the contrary

LvKenAenM: http://www.arcticbeacon.com/13-Apr-2006.html


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[Pindar]

Zoals ik en anderen al die tijd al lopen te verkondigen, en men liever een
intellectuele discussie heeft in plaats van er wat aan te doen!!! ik walg ervan!

'These alignments, almost certainly of energetic importance, have been discovered whilst looking into cases of missing and murdered children. These discoveries were leading me to realise there is a connection in some way with the Royal Castles and palaces. Places linked to the Queen Mother, cropped up time and again. So often I could not ignore them. When the QM died, somehow everything gelled together. This is a pattern. No ifs and buts. The Holy Grail of all investigations is a pattern. Well, here it is.






Notice how often St Mary's comes up. This may be because it is another name for El, the Old Deceiver and Serpent Queen. Indeed, could it be that St Mary really stands for Serpent Mary? Mary is the Moon, companion of John (the male moon aspect). You will find many St Mary's and St John churches together in the same places.

LvK http://ellisctaylor.homestead.com/bmalignments.html

en ga maar door en door..



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[Pindar]

Voor de kenners!




zonne-logo van de jezuieten!!





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[Pindar]

en met een klein beetje occulte en geschiedkundige en illuminati-kennis
kan je er achter komen dat Ophra wat verzwijgt!

Oprah draai je maar om, zoals haar productie studio heet. Dan krijgen we dus Harpo, en waar denk je dan aan? Juist! Aaan Haprocrates, de god van de stilte!
Herinner je Harpo nog van de Marx-Brothers, die 'stom'was
Juist!
En verder is Harpocrates een verwijzing naar de zon!
En wat de meeste mensen zowieso niet weten is dat Oprah, zwaar, zwaar
ge-mind-controlled is door de illuminati! Btw iedereen die op zo'n soort post zit.

[SIZE=1]Harpocrates[/SIZE]

by Micha F. Lindemans
The Greek form of the Egyptian Harpa-Khruti (Horus the child). He was represented as a naked boy sucking his finger. The Greeks made him the god of silence and secrecy.

Pin d'Ar

[Mephisto]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door exodus

Big Brother Surveillance in London....






http://infowars.net/articles/april20...06watching.htm

http://www.lnwa.co.uk/ werkt niet.

[Mephisto]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door exodus

Interessant artikel dat de vergelijking maakt tussen de NWO en een partij schaak.

blablabla
Als u even nadenkt, dan weet u ook dat het binnen schaak voor een mens vrijwel onmogelijk is om meer dan 7 zetten vooruit te denken. En dan gaat het enkel maar om 64 stukken, niet om een complexe wereldbevolking.

"Reverse Engineering" is een heel eenvoudige manier om te beweren dat alles een samenzwering is. Omdat we allemaal hier op aarde zijn, staan we met elkaar in contact. Wij beïnvloeden elkaar allemaal, en meestens niet bewust..

ach, waarom zeur ik ook nog. Dat is hetzelfde als tegeen een VB-er vertellen dat zijn partij racistisch is. Dan krijg ik ook in alle toonaarden te horen dat dat 1. terecht is en 2. niet waar. Dus ja, veel plezier maar weer.

Spijtig dat NWO de "internationale politieke agenda" van politics.be overheerst. Maakt het forum een stuk minder aantrekkelijk..

[Mephisto]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Pindar

en met een klein beetje occulte en geschiedkundige en illuminati-kennis
kan je er achter komen dat Ophra wat verzwijgt!

Oprah draai je maar om, zoals haar productie studio heet. Dan krijgen we dus Harpo, en waar denk je dan aan? Juist! Aaan Haprocrates, de god van de stilte!
Herinner je Harpo nog van de Marx-Brothers, die 'stom'was
Juist!
En verder is Harpocrates een verwijzing naar de zon!
En wat de meeste mensen zowieso niet weten is dat Oprah, zwaar, zwaar
ge-mind-controlled is door de illuminati! Btw iedereen die op zo'n soort post zit.







Pin d'Ar

't is wat..