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Oud 13 februari 2007, 17:12   #12601
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Is die Nashid Abdul-Khaaliq een believer of een non-believer, 2004gun?

Voorts heb ik hier nog een link die wijst op de potentieel antisemitische inslag van de hypothesen die door inside-job-believers verspreid worden: http://www.gebladerte.nl/11244f79.htm
Wat is je punt?

Niemand van de 9/11-sceptici is hier antisemitische punt uit. Ga je weer beginnen met je antisemtisch gezaag ja.
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Onderstaande citaten heb ik al snel gevonden.
Wil je nog altijd dat ik verder zoek?

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[font=Arial]Niet alleen Amerkanen werden het dodelijk slachtoffer van de aanslagen. Ongeveer 500 vreemde mensen, van 80 verschillende nationaliteiten, verloren het leven. Als een wereldcentrum van handel en financiën is dit ook niet verbazend. Het is ook algemeen geweten dat veel Israëlieten werkzaam zijn in de sectoren van handel en financiën. Een beetje kansberekening leert dat onder de 500 slachtoffers zich een aanzienlijk aantal Israëlieten zouden bevinden. Het aantal Israëlieten dat omkwam was echter heel laag, zeker rekening houdend met de meer dan 4000 telefoonoproepen (12 September, Jerusalem Post) die de Israëlische ambassade in Amerika van ongeruste Israëlische families heeft ontvangen[/font].
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[font=Arial]Wie informeerde de Israëlische werknemers in het WTC?[/font]


http://forum.politics.be/showthread....300#post930300

Of hier:

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Het nieuws dat in de Israëlische pers verscheen dat er op 9-11 (1 dag) 4000 telefoontjes werden ontvangen op de Ambassade van Israël terwijl er geen enkele het leven heeft gelaten. (Laat ons er extreem van uitgaan dat 80% van de telefoons niet voor WTC-werknemers waren en dat er per werknemer 5 telefoons werden gedaan, dan zijn het er nog steeds 160 (!?)...)

http://forum.politics.be/showthread....310#post937310
Salmon toch ... WAAR staat dat Al Qaida de Joden heeft geïnformeerd?

Jouw post:
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Nu ben ik toch eens benieuwd naar het antwoord van die naarstige believers!
Of zullen ze niet durven reageren?
(Max4westland heeft gelijk dat zionisme en de NWO-mythe door vele antisemieten met elkaar verward worden. De NWO-mythe is namelijk ooit bedacht door antizionisten. Wie herinnert zich niet dat de believers in de 9/11-inside-job-hypothese begonnen zijn met het argument dat de Al Qaeda terroristen vooraf de joodse werknemers in de TwinTowers verwittigd hadden.)
Daarenboven komt dit artikel uit de Jerusalem Post
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Gun zijn/haar geheugen is kort en selectief. Bedankt Salmon om dat nog eens te illustreren.
Dit bewijst andermaal uw 'domme' en 'NIET-kritische' houding beste Parcifal. Ik vraag me af waarom ik woorden aan jou blijf vuil maken.
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Is die Nashid Abdul-Khaaliq een believer of een non-believer, 2004gun?
Ik heb die warboel niet gelezen, post hem eerst eens op een ordentelijke manier!
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Oud 13 februari 2007, 17:23   #12605
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Dit bewijst andermaal uw 'domme' en 'NIET-kritische' houding beste Parcifal. Ik vraag me af waarom ik woorden aan jou blijf vuil maken.
Ach, kritiek geven kan je als de beste.
Kritiek slikken daarentegen......
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Het bewijst dat de REALITEIT vandaag is dat RFID gebruikt wordt voor positieve zaken : het vergroten van onze kennis aangaande klimaatsverandering en zee-ecologie.
Heeft hier dan ooit iemand beweerd dat dat niet kan, het positief gebruiken?

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Een miljoen copy/pastes van schreeuwerige artikels van infowars.com of prisonplanet met uit de context gerukte verhaaltjes en halve leugens kan daar niet tegenop.
We blijven bij wat we zeggen hoor Par. We willen niet gemicrochipped worden en al zeker niet met hen aan het roer!
Moeten we die mening bijstellen door de applicatie van jouw artikel?? Jezus Par...



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Het enige wat je bereikt met jouw handelen is dat sommige minder geïnformeerden bang zouden gemaakt kunnen worden.
Zonder echte reden.
Zonder reden??
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Nog over Global Warming.... weer een van de zovele massale leugens dat het publiek dagelijks door zijn strot geramt krijgt... in de jaren 70 was de boeman global cooling, maar dat weten de meeste wellicht niet meer. Het feit is dat de aarde soms opwarmt en afkoelt in natuurlijke cycli, maar de megalomaanse controle-freaks gebruiken elk ding om hun eigen controle uit te breiden.

Enkele voorbeelden vanuit de jaren 70 over global cooling, en de doemscenario's dat ze toen, net zoals nu promootten:

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The continued rapid cooling of the earth since WWII is in accord with the increase in global air pollution associated with industrialization, mechanization, urbanization and exploding population. -- Reid Bryson, "Global Ecology; Readings towards a rational strategy for Man", (1971)


The battle to feed humanity is over. In the 1970s, the world will undergo famines. Hundreds of millions of people are going to starve to death in spite of any crash programs embarked upon now. Population control is the only answer -- Paul Ehrlich - The Population Bomb (1968)


I would take even money that England will not exist in the year 2000 -- Paul Ehrlich in (1969)


In ten years all important animal life in the sea will be extinct. Large areas of coastline will have to be evacuated because of the stench of dead fish. -- Paul Ehrlich, Earth Day (1970)


Before 1985, mankind will enter a genuine age of scarcity . . . in which the accessible supplies of many key minerals will be facing depletion -- Paul Ehrlich in (1976)


This [cooling] trend will reduce agricultural productivity for the rest of the century -- Peter Gwynne, Newsweek 1976
Mensen toch laat u niet vangen...
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We blijven bij wat we zeggen hoor Par. We willen niet gemicrochipped worden en al zeker niet met hen aan het roer!
Moeten we die mening bijstellen door de applicatie van jouw artikel?? Jezus Par...
Nee, je moet die mening niet bijstellen daardoor, je moet wel niet blind zijn voor de mogelijke voordelen.

Daar zag het echt naar uit als ik de vroegere posts van Pindar en Exodus bekijk.

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Nee, je moet die mening niet bijstellen daardoor, je moet wel niet blind zijn voor de mogelijke voordelen.

Daar zag het echt naar uit als ik de vroegere posts van Pindar en Exodus bekijk.
Onze post gaan dan ook niet over RFID, maar over controle door middel van RFID, waarbij controle het kernpunt is. Wij zwijgen niet opzettelijk over de voordelen, het is ons te doen om die controle.

Men kan touwens een technologie in een mooi daglicht stellen om het mensen te laten nemen, zonder dat de mensen het doorhebben dat het controle is.
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Nee, je moet die mening niet bijstellen daardoor, je moet wel niet blind zijn voor de mogelijke voordelen.

Daar zag het echt naar uit als ik de vroegere posts van Pindar en Exodus bekijk.
Ah Par, stel hen de vraag vooraleer je je oordeel velt.

Wie kan de voordelen van RFID ontkennen??
En wie kan ontkennen dat het op een negatieve manier kan worden aangewend??
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Nog enkele uit de jaren 70 over global cooling:

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There are ominous signs that the earth's weather patterns have begun to change dramatically and that these changes may portend a drastic decline in food production - with serious political implications for just about every nation on earth. The drop in food production could begin quite soon... The evidence in support of these predictions has now begun to accumulate so massively that meteorologist are hard-pressed to keep up with it. -- Newsweek, April 28, (1975)


This cooling has already killed hundreds of thousands of people. If it continues and no strong action is taken, it will cause world famine, world chaos and world war, and this could all come about before the year 2000. -- Lowell Ponte "The Cooling", 1976


If present trends continue, the world will be about four degrees colder for the global mean temperature in 1990, but eleven degrees colder by the year 2000...This is about twice what it would take to put us in an ice age. -- Kenneth E.F. Watt on air pollution and global cooling, Earth Day (1970)
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Ach, kritiek geven kan je als de beste.
Kritiek slikken daarentegen......
Wat valt er te slikken beste Parcifal?

Salmon komt aandraven met een post die niet in de minste mate zijn originele standpunt bevestigt en jij springt er op als een wilde reu die een dozijn wulpse teven ontmoet.
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Ach, kritiek geven kan je als de beste.
Kritiek slikken daarentegen......
Je hebt je laten vangen door een spiegel, Parcifal.
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Trailer van de nieuwe film "Aspartame: sweet misery, A poisened world"

http://video.google.nl/videoplay?doc...e+sweet+misery
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Wat is je punt?

Niemand van de 9/11-sceptici is hier antisemitische punt uit. Ga je weer beginnen met je antisemtisch gezaag ja.
Mijn gezaag is niet antisemitisch.

Het is precies het verdoken (en vroeger openlijke) antisemitisme van de bronnen waar inside-job-believers hun mosterd halen dat ik wilde aanklagen. Maar ik wil er gerust over ophouden. Want jullie zijn onverbeterlijk. Het amusement nog.
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Ik heb die warboel niet gelezen, post hem eerst eens op een ordentelijke manier!
Bang voor die spiegel? De tekst is zeer gemakkelijk te lezen, u hoeft alleen maar de gifgroene lettertjes te bekijken. Maar ik wed dat u ze van buiten kent.
En nu ben ik echt weg. Slaap lekker.
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Mind control
schitterend over die cooling waar haal je het...
wie is die ehrlig?
over subliminals Derren Brown
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyQjr...elated&search=
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Bang voor die spiegel? De tekst is zeer gemakkelijk te lezen, u hoeft alleen maar de gifgroene lettertjes te bekijken. Maar ik wed dat u ze van buiten kent.
En nu ben ik echt weg. Slaap lekker.
Luie lummel

Aan mijn intonatie moet je intussen al lang gemerkt hebben dat die 'spiegel' bij mij hoe dan ook geen angst opwekt

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Who Did 911 - OBL, Bush Or Mossad? The Evidence

By Nashid Abdul-Khaaliq

9-12-6

Another year has passed by since the September 11, 2001 attacks on the U.S. What has been gradually happening is that more and more the initial mainstream media version of what happened on that gruesome day is proving to be less true. Increasing credible and respected people such as scientists, ex-governmental officials, religious leaders, journalists and others are PUBLICLY coming out with information that refutes the mainstream media version of events. What is more interesting is that besides being called "kooks" and the information presented being called "conspiracy theories", the substance of the new information debunking mainstream media is going unchallenged! The new information about 911 and the ones presenting it are being called all kinds of names but the information being presented is not being challenged or proven in anyway to be false.

Furthermore, after all these years after 911 the FBI has not uncovered any Al Qaeda cells in the United States nor has it found any paper trail. Although thousands of Muslims have been arrested not one has been convicted of acts of terrorism. The London Times reported the following one year after 911 and it is still true today:

"Thousands of FBI agents have rounded up more than 1,300 suspects across America since September 11, but they have failed to find a single Al-Qaeda cell operating in the United States...Tom Ridge, Director of Homeland Security could not explain why none had been caught."

Curiously though, according to FOX news, throughout late 2000 and 2001, a total of 200 Israeli spies were arrested. It was the largest spy ring to be uncovered in the history of the US. The Washington Post also reported that some of these Israelis were arrested in connection with the 9-11 investigation. Carl Cameron of FOX News Channel did an excellent four part, nationally televised, series of investigations into this blockbuster scandal. But FOX pulled the investigative series after Zionist groups complained to FOX executives. FOX even went so far as to remove the written transcripts of the series from its website.

The question that each individual needs to answer is what should we do as thinking, rational and reasonable people? Should we give into the herd mentality and continue to blindly believe the mainstream media version of events or should we act like truly reasonable, rational and thinking people and examine the evidence on both sides in order to ascertain the truth? After all someone had to question and and break from the herd perception and look at evidence to ascertain that the world was not flat.

I have written this essay to present both views -- the mainstream media version that led us to believe that OBL and Al-Qaeda did 911 versus the version based on uncovering facts surrounding Israeli and American government involvement. I want you to objectively look at both and think deeply about what is being presented. Go to the links and investigate further. Then make a decision for yourself regarding which is more credible. You will find the facts I present to be unquestionably true but my comments biased. I hope that won't bother you. I am definitely of the opinion that it was Israelis along with corrupt elements in our government who were responsible for doing 911 as most of you reading this essay may believe about OBL and Al-Qaeda doing it.

1. The Mainstream Version

Let me share with you mainstream media "evidences" used to link 19 Arabs to doing 911. Besides this, there is the "so-called" proof that President Bush claim to have that was never shown to the American people but supposedly shown to Musharraf in Pakistan, who now publicly states that he has doubts. Here is a list of the evidences we were made to believe was sufficient proof linking OBL and Al-Qaeda to 911:

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Like assailants who, in their preparations, leave tracks behind them like a herd of stampeding elephants?

The 911 hijackers made payments with credit cards with their own names; they reported to their flight instructors with their own names.

They left behind rented cars with flight manuals in Arabic for jumbo jets. They took with them, on their suicide trip, wills and farewell letters, which fall into the hands of the FBI, because they were stored in the wrong place and wrongly addressed.

Clues were left like behind like in a child's game of hide-and-seek, which were to be followed!

One writer wrote the following about the discovery of Mohammed Atta's passport for a domestic flight for which a passport was not necessary.

The Magic Passport Theory

We can now add Mohamed Atta's reality-defying passport to the Arlen Specter Gallery of Improbable Projectiles. This incriminating item was thrown intact from a cataclysmic fireball and miraculously plucked from 1.6 million tons of debris in a matter of hours. The corporate media rarely mention the unlikelihood of this. Many in the alternative press, though, are unafraid to draw an obvious, albeit taboo, inference: that the Atta passport is planted evidence. According to Washington, DC, peace activist John Judge, other potential plants include the Arabic-language flight manuals left in one of the hijackers' cars (with note: The discussion of the flight manuals begins at around 13:30). These manuals could serve no useful purpose at such a late stage unless the hijackers planned to finish learning how to fly during a half-hour ride to the airport. But as deliberately placed articles, they are as if a signed diary called "My Plan to Kill the President" had been unearthed in Lee Harvey Oswald's flat. Also high on the possible planted evidence list is a spiritual manifesto for the Al Qaeda kamikaze pilots, which, to journalist Robert Fisk, sounds an awful lot like it was written by a God-fearing Christian.

Wow!!! I guess somehow Mohammed Atta was able to open a window on the plane and throw out his passport at the right time so that it won't be destroyed as the plane's black boxes were. Such accuracy and precision to let the world know of his guilt is truly amazing.

Then there are the Bin Laden videos. How convenient! We happen to be living in a video-centric world. Most of what people are exposed to and believe comes from watching TV. How wonderful and convenient it must be to find out that Bin Laden left proof of his guilt on video for consumption by a video-centric world. I guess if we were living in a world where smoke signals was the primary means of communication we would have found the correct smoke signals left by Bin Laden to correctly identify him as the perpetrator of 911.

But alas the Bin Laden videos were proven to be fake! But our honest media that made such a big fuss about showing the false videos never went back and told the American public that they had shown the world fake videos. Nawww, they did not want to because it did not serve their purpose. Here is what some Professionals who examined the videos wrote about them:

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Professor Gernot Rotter, scholar of Islamic and Arabic Studies, Asia-Africa Institute, University of Hamburg: "Regardless of the question if bin Laden personally was actively involved in the organization of the attacks or not: This tape is of such poor quality that many passages are unintelligible. And those that are intelligible have often been taken out of context, so that you can't use that as evidence. The American translators who listened to the tape and transcribed it obviously added things that they wanted to hear in many places. Things that can't be heard - never mind how often you listen to it.

"Guilty or not guilty? If the US government wants to find bin Laden guilty of the deed, they have to come up with better evidence.

"And look: the English translation that the US government presented to the world is not only manipulated in parts, but even contains mistakes. A report from Ekkehard Sieker and Georg Restle."

Dr. Viola El M. Husseini, scholar in Arabic culture/language: "I carefully checked the Pentagon translation. The translation is very problematic. The passages that are the most important, the ones that are supposed to prove bin Laden's guilt, are not identical to the Arabic sound."

http://www.unansweredquestions.org/t...tor122001.html

Never mind also that in Bin Laden's last interview for the BBC with Carol Valentine, he denounced the attacks and stated that he had nothing to do with the killing of innocent people on 911. But since this was a story that had to be read most people don't know about that because it did not come in the form of "smoke signals" -- sorry I mean videos. I elaborate more about this below.

All of what is stated above was reported in mainstream media as "evidences" linking the 19 Arabs to 911. This is what most people were told and from this type of evidence most people believe OBL and Al-Qaeda did 911. I welcome anyone reading this article who have more to go on than what was presented above that causes them to believe that 911 was done by OBL and 19 Arabs to please share it with us?

Now let's compare this to the mountain of evidence below implicating the Israelis and corrupt elements in our government. After doing so ask yourself seriously which is more believable. Again, I have references from main stream media sources to everything listed below. If you question anything please let me know and I will point you to the source.

2. Israelis and Corrupt Elements in the US Government Guilty Version

Here is a partial listing and involvement with events surrounding 911 that Israelis were involved with that no other country or organization in the world including the U.S. can match. Not only numerous but each involvement is quite significant in importance:

1. It was Israelis who were caught watching the WTC burn and crumble and celebrating it with joy. When the Lakers beat Sacramento for the NBA crown they celebrated. Why? Because their efforts were successful! The event, which was the championship game, they won. The Israelis, according to eye witnesses who saw them on top of the van were ecstatic. They were joyful and why you ask? Because of America's misery, America's lost and thousands of innocent lives perishing. But to the Israelis this was success. They were ecstatic with joy because they too won the championship game!

Even when these Israelis were in FBI custody they failed numerous lie detector tests. In fact they did not pass a single one.

To show that this joy was not local only to the 5 Israelis, look at what was said by and about their leaders:

Reactions from the Israeli side to the September attack:

Ehud Sprinzak, terrorism expert at Hebrew University in Jerusalem, said "From the perspective of Israelis, it is the most important public relations act ever committed in our favor."

The attack "was good for the Israelis," "It is very good", said Benjamin Netanyahu...before he caught himself and amended his statement.

In an interview with Le Monde, Ami Ayalon, former Head of the Israeli Militia for Israel, stated: "Since September 11, our leaders have been euphoric."

The reason why the Israelis failed lie detector tests is because the truth that they could not admit was we planned this. We pulled it off. We successfully created a Pearl Harbor incident to get the stupid goyim fully in bed with us. And just like we did in the time of Christ we are going to do today. We will get our media fully in bed with us to blame someone else for the crime. Yeah we were caught in the Lavon Affair, USS Liberty, etc. But we are ready now. The stakes are too high.

2. It was Israelis whose van was stopped and maps and other paraphernalia were found leading the FBI to believe that they had definite involvement with 911.

3. It was the Israeli owner of the Moving van company that immediately shutdown his business, put his house up for sale and fled to Israel when his employees were caught. Aren't these drastic actions and shouldn't we want to know why the owner behaved that way?

4. It was Israelis who were caught spying on the US and lived in the same vicinity as the supposed "hijackers".

5. It was Israelis who were about 200 spies in a spy ring that Carl Cameron reported about in FOX News saying that government officials stated that they had "tie-ins" to 911. By the way this news was suppressed and the story taken off the Foxx News website. The people responsible for that were JINSA (the Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs). JINSA President and CEO David Steinmann is also a director of CAMERA (Committee for Accurate Middle East Reporting in America), the group that actually staged the e-mail, fax, letter, and phone call mobilization that squeezed Fox TV, to the point that they removed the transcripts of the four Carl Cameron segments from their own web site. I wonder why these American Israelis were interested in doing such a thing?

The FOX series and other mainstream news media sources revealed that many of these Israelis were army veterans with electronics and explosives expertise. Many of them failed lie detector tests. Dr. Steven E. Jones, professor of physics at BYU and Kevin Ryan, former lab manager and scientist at Underwriters Labs -- the company that tested the steel used in the World Trade Center buildings, and fired Kevin Ryan when he went public with information about a cover-up ­ have shown conclusive proofs that the collapsed of the WTC buildings were due to thermite and explosives and NOT as a result of the planes crashing into them. Could it be that these scientists have uncovered in later years one of the real purposes for the Israeli spy network presence in the US in 2001?

6. It was Israelis who the following was reported about by U.S. government authorities when the Israeli spies were found: "An Israeli government spokesman reported a few days ago the news of arresting a number of Israelis by the US intelligence bodies in Florida. This might seem strange but what is more significant is the deliberate ignorance by the Israeli government of the reason for the arrests. The Israelis did not even mention the reason or the case for which their subjects were detained. The point is that a big quantity of the Anthrax germ was held with the Israelis when they were arrested. Moreover, the detainees had 15 charts of the New York Trade Center and eight charts of the Pentagon building which were attacked on September 11th. This is in addition to other six charts of the White House, which was among the would-be targets of the September 11th attacks. According to discreet US reports, the charts found with the Israelis had accurately drawn the Pentagon building and the World Trade Center and defined their geometric projections, as well as, precisely depicted the many floors. Further, some data included in the charts define the itineraries of civil passenger planes and their destinations!!!..."

7. It was Israelis who the Jerusalem Post on September 12, 2001 reported 4000 missing or expected to be dead as a result of doing business and working at the WTC on 911.

8. It was the Israeli general counsel Alon Pinkas who reported that out of the 4000 Israelis dead or missing actually only one was killed, a visitor. The statistics of this happening is IMPOSSIBLE. The only reason this could happen is if somehow Israelis were warned ahead of time about the planes crashing into the WTC. The natural question to ask is, are there any evidence of prior warnings of the impending WTC attacks given to anyone in the world? If there is let's narrow the list down to see if any warnings happen to be given to Israelis. Well it just so happens that there were prior warnings and the only people in the world to receive them were Israelis!!!!

9. It was Israelis who received Odigo warnings two hours before the planes struck the WTC buildings. This was reported both in the Ha'aertz and Washington Post newspapers. This is proof positive that someone who cares for the lives of Israelis knew that planes were going to be crashed into the WTC ahead of time and wanted to make sure Israelis were not killed. I am sure the identity of that person was not Bin laden. This succinctly explains why only one Israeli got killed on 911 although the number was expected to be as much as 4000.

10. It was Israelis who were armed with 9mm pistols, nine grenades, C-4 explosives, three detonators and 58 bullets and caught in Mexico in an attempt to blow the Mexican Congress up on October 10, 2001, one month after 911. Curiously these Israelis were found with Pakistani passports in their possession. The Israelis were booked for conspiracy to destroy a building by means of an explosive by the Mexican police. If they were successful in blowing up the Mexican Congress -- leaving the Pakistani passports where they could be found by the authorities -- would like 911, have been blamed on Muslim terrorists. They got caught red-handed here and only G-d knows how many other incidents innocent Muslims are being blamed for that were really done by Israelis.

11. Pakistani General Gul, who at one time was a close ally of the U.S. and a staunch supporter of Western values -- who could have blamed 911 on his Russian or Indian enemies -- instead chose to blame 911 on Israelis. This former director of the Pakistani Intelligence Service said un-categorically about 911 that "The Israeli Mossad and its American associates are the obvious culprits." Why did he just happen to also blame Israelis? Why didn't he blame India or Russia who were far worse enemies to Pakistan than Israelis? This was a man who was close to the American Secret Service leaders and their ally. How come he seems to know what Vreeland and other CIA operatives worldwide knew about 911?

12. The news about the impending attacks was known by even low ranking CIA agents like Delmart Vreeland. To prove it he wrote what was going to happen in August, 2001 in a sealed envelope while in prison in Canada and had his guards open the envelope on September 14th. Lo and behold he accurately predicted the attacks of 911. If he knew about this I am certain that many others in the CIA especially at higher levels knew about it also. As such this was a deliberate planned action set up to create a Pearl Harbor type event to cause the American government to take actions that the planners of this event wanted. With the complicity of the Israeli controlled news media the finger was solidly pointed on OBL, Al-Qaeda and the Taliban. They did not allow any suspicion to be pointed anywhere else. How convenient!!!

As an example of the many reports throughout the world implicating Israeli involvement in 911, here is a partial text of one from Canada's Stern-Intel on September 17, 2001:

"A US military intelligence source revealed details of an internal intelligence memo that points to the Israeli Mossad intelligence service having links to the World Trade Centre and Pentagon attacks."

13. A report from the German external intelligence agency, the Bundesnachrichtendienst (BND) states the following: German intelligence detected plans for an attack on the United States, to take place on September 10 or 11, 2001. Israel was aware of the plans and wished the attack to take place without hindrance. The German ambassador informed the President of the US of the impending attacks. He thanked the ambassador and said that he already knew. Subsequently, his administration urgently requested the suppression of information on this warning.

14. The U.S. Army School for Advanced Military Studies (SAMS), wrote this about the Israeli Mossad which was reported about on September 10, 2001 one day before 911:

"Wildcard. Ruthless and cunning. Has capability to target U.S. forces and make it look like a Palestinian/Arab act."

BINGO! The very next day an "Arab act" took place against the U.S. and no suspicion or investigation was done based on this credible report from SAMS. As I said the finger was so firmly pointed against Bin Laden that even intelligent people were so suffocated by the Israeli controlled press that no other questions were entertained.

15. It was a Zionist owned company, Metals Management, and a life time Zionist Mayor of N.Y. who was responsible for so quickly removing the steel evidence from the WTC such that no investigation could be done on whether or not the WTC steel beams melted from heat or due to bombs going off that caused the WTC to crash. Dr. Frederick W. Mowrer from the Fire Engineering department at the University of Maryland told the New York Times: "I find the speed with which important evidence has been removed and recycled to be appalling."

16. Although the planes used to crash into the WTC could have flown from La Guardia, Kennedy, or some nearer airport, they chose to fly from Boston's Logan airport which was much further away from the WTC. Doing this lengthened the time to the destination making it easier for NORAD to intercept the planes. Why this was done? It was because an Israeli company, ICTS International, controlled airport security at Boston Logan airport.

17. An abnormal amount of put stock options were purchased against United and American Airlines right before 911. Gee whiz I wonder why British Airways, Southwest Airlines, Continental or other Airlines did not have abnormally large amounts of put stock options purchases also? Why did it just so happen to be from the two airlines that were involved with the 911 incident? It was reported that many Israelis and even an ex-CIA director from Deutsche bank made huge profits on the purchase. One person made as much as $2,500,000.00 on the deal and when last reported did not come to pick up his money. How did all these people know that American and United Airlines stocks will drop so dramatically in value the next day???

Not only airline stocks but according to the Barnes Review, " Between August 26 and September 11, 2001, a group of speculators, identified by the American Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) as Israeli citizens, sold "short" a list of 38 stocks that could reasonably be expected to fall in value as a result of the pending attacks. These speculators operated out of the Toronto, Canada and Frankfurt, Germany, stock exchanges and their profits were specifically stated to be "in the millions of dollars."

http://tbrnews.org/Archives/a048.htm

I ask the same question as Michael Shore does in the following paragraph, Why? Also why did this story just drop from the media and no follow up was done? Another example of the media in cahoots with the planners of 911 to deflect attention from the obvious and keep the Americans firmly fixated on OBL/Al-Qaeda as the only possibility for 911.

"It would seem easy enough for the FBI and CIA to go to the stockbrokers where these trades were made and find out who made them. This is probably the closest link that can be established to someone who was involved in 911 but neither the FBI nor CIA is, apparently, pursuing this. Why?"

18. When Hamas, Islamic Jihad, Hizbollah and other Palestinian groups commit acts of freedom against the brutal Israeli regime, no matter how small the numbers they kill of the enemy they take responsibility for it. That has been their pattern for a long time. Now the largest attack killing the most amount of "the enemy" Americans, instead of OBL boasting about it and even cheering like the Israelis did at the WTC he said the following: "I was not involved in the September 11 attacks in the United States nor did I have knowledge of the attacks. There exists a government within a government within the United States. The United States should try to trace the perpetrators of these attacks within itself; to the people who want to make the present century a century of conflict between Islam and Christianity. That secret government must be asked as to who carried out the attacks....The American system is totally in control of the Jews, whose first priority is Israel, not the United States. "

http://www.public-action.com/911/oblintrv.html

This is quite significant because as successful as this act was it would have been something for OBL to boast about but instead he condemns it and distances himself from it. Very unlikely behavior for someone guilty and who would normally gloat at such a major accomplishment. The U.S. government claimed that it had proof which they never showed any of us. They claimed that they showed it to the Pakistani President but he also came out with a statement claiming that he believes that there is no way that OBL could have pulled off 911 alone. What happened to the proof?

19. Financially it was Israelis who profited handsomely from the destruction of the WTC. Larry Silverstein, a Zionist Jew whose company acquired the 99 year lease for the WTC got an insurance payment for more than 4.6 billion dollars for 2 attacks on the WTC on 911. Incidentally he acquired the lease 6 months before the 911 attacks and just "happened" to fully insure it against terrorist attacks.

Another Israeli by the name of Frank Lowy, chairman and founder of Westfield Holdings, had recently acquired the 99-year lease for the 425,000 square foot retail portion of World Trade Center before the WTC attacks of Sept. 11, according to The Jerusalem Post . He too also fully insured his lease against terrorist attacks and will also be paid billions.

So in regards to 911 we find Israelis involved with many things. Strange wouldn't you say that we don't find Russians, Saudis, Italians, Pakistanis or even Africans involved with events related to 911 as Israelis. Isn't it just coincidental that the people involved just happens to be Israelis.

With all this evidence of Israeli involvement, corrupt U.S. government officials involvement and media complicity in covering and even dropping information that should be pursued and thoroughly investigated I ask the question why, why in the hell is any of this not being investigated? This is a mountain of evidence. Other evidence not discussed but also valid is the many reports showing evidence that the WTC was blown up from within explaining how the buildings fell, no video or stills of any of the hijackers at Logan Airport, how did the U.S. government identify so quickly the identities of the hijackers and was able to fix the blame on OBL just a few hours after the event, the fact that 7 of the hijackers identified are still alive today, the many false reports about terrorists identities like the one of a Pakistani man who never left Pakistan in his life having his picture publicly broadcasted in the media, and I could go on and on.

The only logical conclusion that a reasonable person can arrive at is this: The 9-11 attacks, the anthrax murders, and numerous other foiled terror plots, were planned, orchestrated, financed, carried out, and covered up by the forces of Israel. What other logical explanation can there be?

What we have been told officially about 911 has more holes in it than aged cheese. It just does not add up. Yet serious actions are being taken against innocent Muslims and thousands of lives are being lost and even more are being harassed and persecuted. Why isn't our government investigating the huge pile of evidence pointing to the Israelis and why aren't relations between the U.S. and Israel cooled? Why? Why? Why?

Note: Please go to the following site that has links to all of the facts presented above for verification:

http://www.ivanfraser.com/articles/c.../stranger.html

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griezelig over dat idiote zeecontroleprojekt...
man man man das niks positiefs wat een handel wie verdient daar aan
en dan waar blijven al die chips ?
nanochips in onze buik?
wat een bemoeiallen en controlefrieks die venten goddomme dat ze met hun handen van de natuur af blijven en hun intuitie leren volgen
eerst heel de landbouw wereldwijd naar de klote helpen met hun harteloze beleid!en nu deze nog erger De mensen die ons eten maken kunnen er niet van leven
ratio ratio ratio berekening controleren angst angst angst
wat een puinhoop maken die mannen er allemaal van.
tis all about mind control.
de eksters komen al uit hun nest
en de vlieren lopen al uit das niet voorgekomen in mijn leven (45 jaar)
er warmt zeker iets op de kiwis zijn rijp!!!
maar de aktiviteit van de zon is ook gigantisch toegenomen de laatste jaren
Vraag het de Hopis die weten ervan...
het was voorspeld
schaarste angst onderdrukking
ipv de werkelijkheid...
vertrouwen liefde solidariteit en overdaad.....
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Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Babylonia Bekijk bericht
griezelig over dat idiote zeecontroleprojekt...
man man man das niks positiefs wat een handel wie verdient daar aan
en dan waar blijven al die chips ?
nanochips in onze buik?
wat een bemoeiallen en controlefrieks die venten goddomme dat ze met hun handen van de natuur af blijven en hun intuitie leren volgen
eerst heel de landbouw wereldwijd naar de klote helpen met hun harteloze beleid!en nu deze nog erger De mensen die ons eten maken kunnen er niet van leven
ratio ratio ratio berekening controleren angst angst angst
wat een puinhoop maken die mannen er allemaal van.
tis all about mind control.
de eksters komen al uit hun nest
en de vlieren lopen al uit das niet voorgekomen in mijn leven (45 jaar)
er warmt zeker iets op de kiwis zijn rijp!!!
maar de aktiviteit van de zon is ook gigantisch toegenomen de laatste jaren
Vraag het de Hopis die weten ervan...
het was voorspeld
schaarste angst onderdrukking
ipv de werkelijkheid...
vertrouwen liefde solidariteit en overdaad.....
Heel mooi gezegd en nu, als jehet nog niet gedaan hebt, de werken van Victor Schauberger lezen, kan daarna meteen de huidige 'natuurkunde' (pfff naam niet waard eigenlijk) op de schop.
Hij laat ontzettend mooi de subtiele verwevenheden zien in de natuur, die we gaan vallen als je de boel 'anaal-iseert'


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