Fake News

[Diego Raga]

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Je moet het nu wéér niet over een andere boeg gooien hé.

Het gaat hier al de hele tijd over JOU bewering dat banken 'geld uit lucht kunnen creëren'.

Wat jij er nu bijsleurt, heeft zelfs niets, maar dan ook totaal niets te maken met het bankwezen op zich. (hogere belastingen)

Je snapt zelfs het woordje 'borgstelling' blijkbaar niet....

Zucht...:

Bundesbank: Banken creëren geld uit het niets

"In navolging op de Bank of England komt nu ook de Bundesbank met een verhelderend stuk over geldcreatie. In haar maandrapportage van april schrijven economen van de Duitse centrale bank dat commerciële banken inderdaad geld ‘uit het niets’ creëren. Zodra je een lening afsluit bij een bank wordt dat bedrag gewoon op je bankrekening toegevoegd als nieuw geld, waardoor de totale geldhoeveelheid toeneemt.

Met deze informatie probeert de Bundesbank een einde te maken aan het hardnekkige misverstand dat commerciële banken slechts tussenpersoon zijn in de kredietverlening en dat ze alleen het geld uitlenen dat door andere rekeninghouders bij de bank gestald is."

https://marketupdate.nl/nieuws/econo...uit-het-niets/

[kojak]

Mss kunnen we hier een uitzondering toelaten.

Maar om even verder te gaan ivm fake news.
Waarom fake news ?

Wel, in vele gevallen is dit heel simpel. Macht & Geld.
Neem nu het al-dan-niet-waar-zijn van de global warming.
Je hebt de believers, en je hebt de non-believers.
Beiden met hun argumenten, maar die van de non-believers werden stelselmatig onderuit gehaald.

Tot ook Exxon het niet meer zag zitten en bekend maakt dat ze jarenlang voor miljoenen had uitgegeven om het non-believers kamp te steunen.
Voor hen een peulschilletje, want met het voordeel hebben ze wel miljarden meer kunnen verdienen dan de andere oliemagnaten.
Hoe dit nog verder zal aflopen, weet ik nu ook niet.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ExxonM...ge_controversy

[kojak]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Diego Raga

Zucht...

Zeg dat wel.
Want wéér spreek je je eigen tegen.
Als ze geld 'uit lucht' kunnen maken, waarom moesten ze dan miljarden in de banken pompen om hen te beschermen tegen een failissement ?

Je gaat het nooit snappen.
Je blijft zelfs je eigen constant tegenspreken.

ps: ik zou toch eens op zoek gaan naar wat betere bronnen.
Denk je zelf niet ?
Het enigste wat je er tot nu toe mee bereikt hebt is dat je jezelf nog meer belachelijk maakt omdat je jezelf nu al tegenspreekt ook.

En nu, uw bedje in !
't is hoog tijd.

[kojak]

Ik ga ondertussen nog in de rapte nog wat geld maken uit niks, en morgen koop ik Microsoft over.

Heb hier nog 2 zakken met niks staan, dus dat zal wel lukken.

[daiwa]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door kojak

Mss kunnen we hier een uitzondering toelaten.

Maar om even verder te gaan ivm fake news.
Waarom fake news ?
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Of om, en dat komt steeds meer voor, criminele activiteiten van allochtonen te verzwijgen.

[kojak]

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Of om, en dat komt steeds meer voor, criminele activiteiten van allochtonen te verzwijgen.

Dat zou best kunnen.
Heb je daar voorbeeldjes van ?

[eno2]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door daiwa

Of om, en dat komt steeds meer voor, criminele activiteiten van allochtonen te verzwijgen.

Selectief belichten of onderbelichten is geen fake news.

[eno2]

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...-is-worse.html

Jan. 21, 2017.“I wasn't a fan of Iraq. I didn't want to go into Iraq.” (He was for an invasion before he was against it.)

Jan. 21, 2017.“A reporter for Time magazine — and I have been on their cover 14 or 15 times. I think we have the all-time record in the history of Time magazine.” (Trump was on the cover 11 times and Nixon appeared 55 times.)

Jan. 23, 2017.“Between 3 million and 5 million illegal votes caused me to lose the popular vote.” (There's no evidence of illegal voting.)

Jan. 25, 2017.“Now, the audience was the biggest ever. But this crowd was massive. Look how far back it goes. This crowd was massive.” (Official aerial photos show Obama's 2009 inauguration was much more heavily attended.)

Jan. 25, 2017.“Take a look at the Pew reports (which show voter fraud.)” (The report never mentioned voter fraud.)

Jan. 25, 2017.“You had millions of people that now aren't insured anymore.” (The real number is less than 1 million, according to the Urban Institute.)

Jan. 25, 2017.“So, look, when President Obama was there two weeks ago making a speech, very nice speech. Two people were shot and killed during his speech. You can't have that.” (There were no gun homicide victims in Chicago that day.)

Jan. 26, 2017.“We've taken in tens of thousands of people. We know nothing about them. They can say they vet them. They didn't vet them. They have no papers. How can you vet somebody when you don't know anything about them and you have no papers? How do you vet them? You can't.” (Vetting lasts up to two years.)

Jan. 26, 2017.“I cut off hundreds of millions of dollars off one particular plane, hundreds of millions of dollars in a short period of time. It wasn't like I spent, like, weeks, hours, less than hours, and many, many hundreds of millions of dollars. And the plane's going to be better.” (Most of the cuts were already planned.)

Jan. 28, 2017.“The coverage about me in the @nytimes and the @washingtonpost has been so false and angry that the Times actually apologized to its dwindling subscribers and readers.” (It never apologized.)

Jan. 29, 2017.“The Cuban-Americans, I got 84 percent of that vote.” (There is no support for this.)

Jan. 30, 2017.“Only 109 people out of 325,000 were detained and held for questioning. Big problems at airports were caused by Delta computer outage.” (At least 746 people were detained and processed, and the Delta outage happened two days later.)

Feb. 3, 2017.“Professional anarchists, thugs and paid protesters are proving the point of the millions of people who voted to MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!” (There is no evidence of paid protesters.)

Feb. 6, 2017.“It's gotten to a point where it is not even being reported. And in many cases, the very, very dishonest press doesn't want to report it.” (Terrorism has been reported on, often in detail.)

Feb. 6, 2017.“And the previous administration allowed it to happen because we shouldn't have been in Iraq, but we shouldn't have gotten out the way we got out. It created a vacuum, ISIS was formed.” (The group’s origins date to 2004.)

Feb. 7, 2017.“And yet the murder rate in our country is the highest it’s been in 47 years, right? Did you know that? Forty-seven years.” (It was higher in the 1980s and '90s.)

Feb. 9, 2017.“Chris Cuomo, in his interview with Sen. Blumenthal, never asked him about his long-term lie about his brave ‘service’ in Vietnam. FAKE NEWS!” (It was part of Cuomo's first question.)

Feb. 9, 2017.“Sen. Richard Blumenthal...now misrepresents what Judge Gorsuch told him?” (The Gorsuch comments were later corroborated.)

Feb. 10, 2017.“I don’t know about it. I haven’t seen it. What report is that?” (Trump knew about Flynn's actions for weeks.)

Feb. 12, 2017.“Just leaving Florida. Big crowds of enthusiastic supporters lining the road that the FAKE NEWS media refuses to mention. Very dishonest!” (The media did cover it.)

Feb. 16, 2017.“We got 306 because people came out and voted like they've never seen before so that's the way it goes. I guess it was the biggest Electoral College win since Ronald Reagan.” (George H.W. Bush, Bill Clinton and Barack Obama all won bigger margins in the Electoral College.)

Feb. 16, 2017.“Walmart announced it will create 10,000 jobs in the United States just this year because of our various plans and initiatives.” (The jobs are a result of its investment plans announced in October 2016.)

Feb. 16, 2017.“When WikiLeaks, which I had nothing to do with, comes out and happens to give, they’re not giving classified information.” (Not always. They have released classified information in the past.)

Feb. 16, 2017.“We had a very smooth rollout of the travel ban. But we had a bad court. Got a bad decision.” (The rollout was chaotic.)

Feb. 16, 2017.“They’re giving stuff — what was said at an office about Hillary cheating on the debates. Which, by the way, nobody mentions. Nobody mentions that Hillary received the questions to the debates.” (It was widely covered.)

Feb. 18, 2017.“You look at what's happening in Germany, you look at what's happening last night in Sweden. Sweden, who would believe this?” (Trump implied there was a terror attack in Sweden, but there was no such attack.)

Feb. 24, 2017.“By the way, you folks are in here — this place is packed, there are lines that go back six blocks.” (There was no evidence of long lines.)

Feb. 24, 2017.“ICE came and endorsed me.” (Only its union did.)

Feb. 24, 2017.“Obamacare covers very few people — and remember, deduct from the number all of the people that had great health care that they loved that was taken away from them — it was taken away from them.” (Obamacare increased coverage by a net of about 20 million.)

Feb. 27, 2017.“Since Obamacare went into effect, nearly half of the insurers are stopped and have stopped from participating in the Obamacare exchanges.” (Many fewer pulled out.)

Feb. 28, 2017.“The E.P.A.’s regulators were putting people out of jobs by the hundreds of thousands.” (There's no evidence that the Waters of the United States rule caused severe job losses.)

Feb. 28, 2017.“We have begun to drain the swamp of government corruption by imposing a five-year ban on lobbying by executive branch officials.” (They can't lobby their former agency but can still become lobbyists.)

March 3, 2017.“It is so pathetic that the Dems have still not approved my full Cabinet.” (Paperwork for the last two candidates was still not submitted to the Senate.)

March 4, 2017.“Terrible! Just found out that Obama had my ‘wires tapped’ in Trump Tower just before the victory. Nothing found. This is McCarthyism!” (There's no evidence of a wiretap.)

March 7, 2017.“122 vicious prisoners, released by the Obama Administration from Gitmo, have returned to the battlefield. Just another terrible decision!” (113 of them were released by President George W. Bush.)

March 17, 2017.“I was in Tennessee — I was just telling the folks — and half of the state has no insurance company, and the other half is going to lose the insurance company.” (There's at least one insurer in every Tennessee county.)

March 22, 2017.“I make the statement, everyone goes crazy. The next day they have a massive riot, and death, and problems.” (Riots in Sweden broke out two days later and there were no deaths.)

March 22, 2017.“NATO, obsolete, because it doesn’t cover terrorism. They fixed that.” (It has fought terrorism since the 1980s.)

March 31, 2017.“We have a lot of plants going up now in Michigan that were never going to be there if I — if I didn’t win this election, those plants would never even think about going back. They were gone.” (These investments were already planned.)

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...-is-worse.html

April 11, 2017.“I like Steve, but you have to remember he was not involved in my campaign until very late. I had already beaten all the senators and all the governors, and I didn’t know Steve.” (He knew Steve Bannon since 2011.)

April 12, 2017.“You can't do it faster, because they're obstructing. They're obstructionists. So I have people — hundreds of people that we're trying to get through. I mean you have — you see the backlog. We can't get them through.” (At this point, he had not nominated anyone for hundreds of positions.)

April 12, 2017.“The New York Times said the word wiretapped in the headline of the first edition. Then they took it out of there fast when they realized.” (There were separate headlines for print and web, but neither were altered.)

April 12, 2017.“Mosul was supposed to last for a week and now they’ve been fighting it for many months and so many more people died.” (The campaign was expected to take months.)

April 16, 2017.“Someone should look into who paid for the small organized rallies yesterday. The election is over!” (There's no evidence of paid protesters.)

April 18, 2017.“The fake media goes, ‘Donald Trump changed his stance on China.’ I haven’t changed my stance.” (He did.)

April 21, 2017.“When WikiLeaks came out ... never heard of WikiLeaks, never heard of it.” (He criticized it as early as 2010.)

April 27, 2017.“I want to help our miners while the Democrats are blocking their healthcare.” (The bill to extend health benefits for certain coal miners was introduced by a Democrat and was co-sponsored by mostly Democrats.)

April 28, 2017.“The trade deficit with Mexico is close to $70 billion, even with Canada it’s $17 billion trade deficit with Canada.” (The U.S. had an $8.1 billion trade surplus, not deficit, with Canada in 2016.)

April 28, 2017.“She's running against someone who's going to raise your taxes to the sky, destroy your health care, and he's for open borders — lots of crime.” (Those are not Jon Ossoff'spositions.)

April 29, 2017.“As you know, I've been a big critic of China, and I've been talking about currency manipulation for a long time. But I have to tell you that during the election, number one, they stopped.” (China stopped years ago.)

April 29, 2017.“We're also getting NATO countries to finally step up and contribute their fair share. They've begun to increase their contributions by billions of dollars, but we are not going to be satisfied until everyone pays what they owe.” (The deal was struck in 2014.)

May 1, 2017.“Well, we are protecting pre-existing conditions. And it'll be every good — bit as good on pre-existing conditions as Obamacare.” (The bill weakens protections for people with pre-existing conditions.)

May 4, 2017.“Nobody cares about my tax return except for the reporters.” (Polls show most Americans do care.)

May 5, 2017.“We pay the highest taxes anywhere in the world.” (We're not.)

May 8, 2017.“But when I did his show, which by the way was very highly rated. It was high — highest rating. The highest rating he’s ever had.” (Colbert's Late Show debut had nearly two million more viewers.)

May 8, 2017.“Director Clapper reiterated what everybody, including the fake media already knows — there is ‘no evidence’ of collusion w/ Russia and Trump.” (Clapper only said he wasn't aware of an investigation.)

May 12, 2017.“Again, the story that there was collusion between the Russians & Trump campaign was fabricated by Dems as an excuse for losing the election.” (The F.B.I. was investigating before the election.)

May 26, 2017.“Just arrived in Italy for the G7. Trip has been very successful. We made and saved the USA many billions of dollars and millions of jobs.” (He's referencing an arms deal that's not enacted and other apparent deals that weren't announced on the trip.)

June 1, 2017.“China will be allowed to build hundreds of additional coal plants. So, we can’t build the plants, but they can, according to this agreement. India will be allowed to double its coal production by 2020.” (The agreement doesn’t allow or disallow building coal plants.)

June 4, 2017.“At least 7 dead and 48 wounded in terror attack and Mayor of London says there is ‘no reason to be alarmed!’” (The mayor was specifically talking about the enlarged police presence on the streets.)

June 5, 2017.“The Justice Dept. should have stayed with the original Travel Ban, not the watered down, politically correct version they submitted to S.C.” (Trump signed this version of the travel ban, not the Justice Department.)

June 21, 2017.“They all say it's 'nonbinding.' Like hell it's nonbinding.” (The Paris climate agreement is nonbinding — and Trump said so in his speech announcing the withdrawal.)

June 21, 2017.“You have a gang called MS-13. ... We are moving them out of the country by the thousands, by the thousands.” (The real number of gang members deported is smaller.)

June 21, 2017.“Your insurance companies have all fled the state of Iowa.” (They haven't)

June 21, 2017.“If [farmers] have a puddle in the middle of their field ... it's considered a lake and you can't touch it. ... We got rid of that one, too, O.K.?” (The Obama environmental rule to limit pollution in the country’s waters explicitly excludes puddles.)

June 21, 2017.“Gary Cohn just paid $200 million in tax in order to take this job, by the way.” Cohn sold Goldman Sachs stock worth $220 million.)

June 21, 2017.“We’re 5 and 0.” (Republicans have won four special elections this year, while a Democrat won one.)

June 21, 2017.“Last week a brand-new coal mine just opened in the state of Pennsylvania, first time in decades, decades.” (Another coal mine opened in 2014.)

June 22, 2017.“Former Homeland Security Advisor Jeh Johnson is latest top intelligence official to state there was no grand scheme between Trump & Russia” (Johnson, who had a different title, didn't say that.)

June 23, 2017.“Ratings way down!” (CNN's ratings were at a five-year high at the time.)

June 28, 2017.“Democrats purposely misstated Medicaid under new Senate bill — actually goes up.” (Senate bill would have cut the program deeply.)

July 17, 2017.“We’ve signed more bills — and I’m talking about through the legislature — than any president, ever.” (Clinton, Carter, Truman, and F.D.R. had signed more at the same point.)

July 19, 2017.“But the F.B.I. person really reports directly to the president of the United States, which is interesting.” (He reports directly to the attorney general.)

July 19, 2017.“She did the uranium deal, which is a horrible thing, while she was secretary of state, and got a lot of money.” (There's no evidence Hillary Clinton was actively involved or benefited from the deal.)

July 24, 2017.“It looks like about 45,000 people. You set a record today.” (Many fewer than 45,000 were there, and the attendance was not a record.)

July 25, 2017.“We have nearly doubled the number of veterans given approvals to see the doctor of their choice.” (The increase was 26 percent.)

July 25, 2017.“Since I took office we have cut illegal immigration on our southern border by record numbers. 78 percent.” (The decline began before Trump's inauguration.)

July 28, 2017.“The previous administration enacted an open-door policy to illegal migrants from Central America. 'Welcome in. Come in, please, please.'” (Obama deported millions.)

July 28, 2017.“We have trade deficits with almost every country because we had a lot of really bad negotiators making deals with other countries.” (The U.S. has a trade surplus with more than 100 countries.)

July 31, 2017.“2.6 is a number that nobody thought they’d see for a long period of time.” (Many experts predicted economic growth at least this high.)

July 31, 2017.“And even the President of Mexico called me – they said their southern border, very few people are coming because they know they’re not going to get through our border, which is the ultimate compliment.” (Mexico's president says he didn't call Trump.)

Aug. 3, 2017.“The Russia story is a total fabrication.” (It's not.

Aug. 15, 2017.“We want products made in the country. Now, I have to tell you, some of the folks that will leave, they're leaving out of embarrassment because they make their products outside.” (People resigned from Trump's business councils over his Charlottesville comments.)

Aug. 22, 2017.“As everybody here remembers, this was the scene of my first rally speech, right?” (Trump's first rally was in New Hampshire.)

Aug. 22, 2017.“We have become an energy exporter for the first time ever just recently.” (The U.S. isn't projected to become a net energy exporter until 2026.)

Aug. 22, 2017.“Look back there, the live red lights. They're turning those suckers off fast out there. They're turning those lights off fast. Like CNN.” (CNN didn't turn off its cameras.)

Sept. 14, 2017.“Also with the fact that I know in the case of FEMA and the case of Coast Guard, the job you've done in saving people, saving lives. As an example, in Harvey in Texas, we talked – over 16,000 lives.” (The real number is smaller.)

Sept. 14, 2017.“And in Florida you got hit with the strongest winds ever recorded.” (They weren't the strongest ever recorded.)

Sept. 22, 2017.“So he started off here, he was in third or fourth, he went to third, second, and now it's like almost pretty even.” (Strange consistently polled first or second in the Alabama Republican primary.)

Sept. 27, 2017.“I’m doing the right thing, and it’s not good for me.” (All available evidence suggests he would benefit.)

Sept. 27, 2017.“To protect millions of small businesses and the American farmer, we are finally ending the crushing, the horrible, the unfair estate tax.” (The real number of small businesses and farmers is vastly smaller.)

Oct. 6, 2017.“They also just said that there has been absolutely no collusion. They just said that. Yesterday. Two days ago. Senate. There has been no collusion.” (The Senate didn't say that.)

Oct. 10, 2017.“The Failing @nytimes set Liddle' Bob Corker up by recording his conversation. Was made to sound a fool, and that's what I am dealing with!” (Corker asked the Times reporter to record the call; his aides recorded it too.)

Oct. 11, 2017.“We have missiles that can knock out a missile in the air. Ninety seven per cent of the time. If you send two of them, it's going to get knocked out.” (The effectiveness rate is about 60 percent.)

Oct. 16, 2017.“I hear that Ireland is going to be reducing their corporate rates down to 8 percent from 12.” (Ireland has no plans to cut its tax rate.)

Oct. 16, 2017.“If you look at President Obama and other presidents, most of them didn’t make calls.” (They did call families of soldiers killed in action.)

Oct. 16, 2017.“All I can say is it’s totally fake news. It’s just fake. It’s fake. It’s made-up stuff, and it’s disgraceful, what happens, but that happens in the world of politics.” (Trump himself has bragged about groping women.)

Oct. 18, 2017.“Democrat Congresswoman totally fabricated what I said to the wife of a soldier who died in action (and I have proof).” (The wife confirmed Representative Frederica Wilson's account.)

Oct. 18, 2017.“Nobody has ever heard of a five hitting land.” (Category 5 storms have hit land before.)

Oct. 24, 2017.“Under our plan, more than 30 million Americans who own small businesses will get a 40 per cent cut to their top marginal tax rate.” (The real number is estimated to be less than 1 million.)

Oct. 27, 2017.“Wacky & totally unhinged Tom Steyer, who has been fighting me and my Make America Great Again agenda from beginning, never wins elections!” (Steyer has financially supported many winning candidates.)

Nov. 7, 2017.“When you look at the city with the strongest gun laws in our nation, it's Chicago.” (Several other cities, including New York and Los Angeles, have stronger gun laws.)

Nov. 11, 2017.“I'd rather have him – you know, work with him on the Ukraine than standing and arguing about whether or not – because that whole thing was set up by the Democrats.” (There is no evidence that Democrats "set up" Russian interference in the election.)

[kojak]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door eno2

Selectief belichten of onderbelichten is geen fake news.

Is relatief...
Als je soms bewust bepaalde delen al dan niet weglaat kan je zo een feit in een totaal andere context brengen die dan een vertekend beeld weergeeft van de realiteit. Fake dus, toch in mijn ogen.
En dat wordt heel veel toegepast, want dan 'liegen ze niet'...
Wat mij betreft, is dit erger dan liegen, maar soit.
Je kan wel iets al dan niet onder of over belichten, maar er zijn grenzen wil je nog geloofwaardig overkomen.

Ik zou je zo bvb 4 uur lang kunnen treiteren tot je het zo moe bent geworden dat je me een draai rond mijn oren verkoopt.

Mocht er nu in de media verschijnen dat jij me zomaar een draai rond mijn oren verkocht hebt, dan ben jij de slechte.
Zeggen alles, dan wordt het helemaal wat anders denk ik.

[De gemuilkorfde]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door kojak

Als je soms bewust bepaalde delen al dan niet weglaat kan je zo een feit in een totaal andere context brengen die dan een vertekend beeld weergeeft van de realiteit. Fake dus, toch in mijn ogen.
En dat wordt heel veel toegepast, want dan 'liegen ze niet'...
Wat mij betreft, is dit erger dan liegen, maar soit.

Inderdaad, stel dat je buurman postbode is, en al jaren aangevallen wordt tijdens zijn ronde door één bepaalde hond, die hem probeert te bijten.
Op een dag doet hij dezelfde ronde, de hond bijt, en de postbode heeft hem een trap.
Dan is het niet liegen als je daarna een groot artikel in de krant zet : "Postbode schopt hond", waarbij je de indruk wekt dat de man een dierenbeul is, en die arme hond het slachtoffer daarvan is.
Het is natuurlijk een fictief voorbeeld, maar een dergelijke manier van weglaten van relevante, en uitvergroten van een stukje van de waarheid zie ik regelmatig in onze Vlaamse media.
Ook het veel te snel trekken van conclusies past daarin.
Onlangs in het Metoo verhaal bijv., een manneljike acteur werd royaal betaald om een rol in een film op te nemen, zijn vrouwelijke tegenspeelster deed het gratis, of voor een minuscule vergoeding.
Direct werd gezegd dat dat dus discriminatie was, en dat ze niets verdiende omdat ze een vrouw was.
Dat kan natuurlijk, maar mocht je in eenzelfde onderneming kijken hier in Vlaanderen, dan zou je ongetwijfeld zien dat de ene werknemer ook soms een firmawagen heeft bedongen en de andere niet, ook al zijn het beiden mannen en doen ze een gelijk(aardig)e jobe, of is het net de vrouw die de firmawagen bedongen heeft, of een hoger loon, etc.
Het heeft dus misschien gewoon te maken met sluw onderhandelen, maar het paste natuurlijk direct in het kraam van "onze" media om dit als vrouwendiscriminatie af te schilderen.

[eno2]

Je kan je eigen woorddefinities opmaken naar eigen goeddunken zoveel je wil, dat bindt noch overtuigt niemand.

Grote Van Dale=> Liegen:
be?*wust (over iets) on?*waar?*heid, leu?*gen spre?*ken

[kojak]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door De gemuilkorfde

...Het is natuurlijk een fictief voorbeeld, maar een dergelijke manier van weglaten van relevante, en uitvergroten van een stukje van de waarheid zie ik regelmatig in onze Vlaamse media....

Daarom ook dat ik het zo belangrijk vind om verschillende bronnen eens naast elkaar te leggen.
En dan nog liefst geen 'sterk gekleurde' bronnen, waar daar is het in 95% van de gevallen zo.

[kojak]

[Bach]

Zoals bij naked shorting aandelen uit het niets gecreëerd worden?...

[Diego Raga]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Bach

Zoals bij naked shorting aandelen uit het niets gecreëerd worden?...

Turbo gokspel, waarbij de gewone lotto verbleekt.

[daiwa]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door kojak

Dat zou best kunnen.
Heb je daar voorbeeldjes van ?

Die zijn er genoeg!
Telkens er een dubbel paspoortige crimineel opgepakt wordt in het buitenland zal men vrijwel altijd enkel zijn Belgische nationaliteit vermelden.

Iets anders wordt het als die onterecht opgepakt wordt zoals onlangs gebeurde.

Dan was het niet Belgen opgepakt maar de Belgen van Marokkaanse origine die opgepakt werden bleken onschuldig te zijn en werden vrij gelaten.

[Kristof Piessens]

fake news en blindheid is volgens mij synoniem aan elkaar en dat in functie van het weten, alleen hoe hanteer je informatie wil het van nut zijn de actualiteiten te volgen.

Trumpie had het bij zijn inzwering over een massa volk terwijl de pleinen halfvol waren...het perspectief mag je dan ook nooit op een suggestieve manier/noot brengen, en dat is ongeveer wat de meeste fake nieuws doen, met veelal ironisch ofwel sarcastisch en verwante bedoelingen gebracht wordt....

Onderscheid is nauwelijks kenbaar voor de meesten als ze blind zijn voor de waarheid van de actuele situatie die zich heeft plaatsgevonden, in de meeste gevallen is het pas achteraf dat er inzicht komt dat iemand verkeerd zat maar in regel weinig aan toegegeven wordt !

[kojak]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door daiwa

Die zijn er genoeg!
Telkens er een dubbel paspoortige crimineel opgepakt wordt in het buitenland zal men vrijwel altijd enkel zijn Belgische nationaliteit vermelden.

Iets anders wordt het als die onterecht opgepakt wordt zoals onlangs gebeurde.

Dan was het niet Belgen opgepakt maar de Belgen van Marokkaanse origine die opgepakt werden bleken onschuldig te zijn en werden vrij gelaten.

Nu niet voor het een of het ander, maar je draait nu wel wat rond de pot.
Concrete voorbeeldjes heb ik nog altijd niet gezien of gehoord.
Maw, is hetgeen jij nu beweert 'echt' of 'fake' ?
Ik blijf dus met een vraag zitten waar ik het antwoord niet op weet.
Iets geloven, dat doe ik pas als men het kan staven, anders niet.
Maw, ik ben nogal kritisch in wat de berichtgeving betreft, want je hoort tegenwoordig van alles en nog wat.

[daiwa]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door kojak

Nu niet voor het een of het ander, maar je draait nu wel wat rond de pot.
Concrete voorbeeldjes heb ik nog altijd niet gezien of gehoord.
Maw, is hetgeen jij nu beweert 'echt' of 'fake' ?
Ik blijf dus met een vraag zitten waar ik het antwoord niet op weet.
Iets geloven, dat doe ik pas als men het kan staven, anders niet.
Maw, ik ben nogal kritisch in wat de berichtgeving betreft, want je hoort tegenwoordig van alles en nog wat.

Wees gerust, dat was echt.
Te horen in het nieuws op de rode VRT.

Eerst was het Belgen opgepakt in Marokko.
Toen ze onschuldig bleken kon de rode VRT zich ineens herinneren dat ze ook de Marokkaanse nationaliteit hadden.

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Je uitleg blijft even vaag....
Als het op de VRT was, zal het ook wel in de media gestaan hebben.
Graag een link.
En dit is maar één voorbeeldje, en er waren er zoveel ?

Stof tot nadenken wat mij betreft.