Verhofstadt wil les over WOII verplicht maken

[system]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Jean-Pierre

Ja dat is een goede vraag. In feite ging het om personen die zelf geen land hadden (2de oudste zoon,...) en dus gingen ze het ergens anders zoeken.

Toevallig speelt zich deze periode af rond de jaren 1000-1100 waar de Catharen uitgemoord werden omwille van hun afwijkende mening ten opzichte van Rome. Dat heeft veel opgebracht aan de Franse koningen en natuurlijk aan Rome omdat een complete bevolking schatplichtig gemaakt werd aan een politiek en godsdienstig gezag.

En nog iets... die bewuste personen hadden niets te maken met Vlaams. Al onze graven van Vlaanderen (toen en nu!) waren Franstalig.

Maar dit ging toch niet helemaal op voor Godfried van Boolen. Hij w�*s immers al Hertog van Neder-Lotharingen toen hij op kruistocht vertrok als ik me niet vergis. Wel ,bijvoorbeeld, voor Boudewijn, de broer van Godfried, de later koning van Jeruzalem. Nadat Boudewijn mislukt was in zijn claim op Antiochië, verlaat hij het kruisvaardersleger en veroverde hij dan maar Edessa. Hij wordt dus Graaf van Edessa. Hij bezat nu eindelijk zijn 'stukje land'.

[system]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Lao Tzu

Gaat hij ook het hoofdstuk 'Oostfronters' inlassen in het lessenpaket? En een hoofdstuk 'repressie'. En 'vlucht van het koningshuis naar Engeland'.

Dat vind ik ook.

Alleen, de vlucht van het koningshuis naar Engeland kan ik niet zo goed plaatsen. Maar misschien heb ik iets gemist.

[Infanterie]

[quote=ericferemans;2618457]

Je bent de aanhalingstekens vergeten die ik rond "anti-zionisme" en "islamofobie" zette. Daardoor vervals je mijn redenering totaal.
Iedereen weet dat het VB jargon voor antisimitisme "anti-zionisme" is, dit om veroordelingen te voorkomen. De stomme meeloopblokkertjes op dit forum denken vaak dat dit zelf hetzelfde is. Quod non.
Wat "islamofobie" betreft is dit weerom een (vergeefse) oefening van Dewinter om de wetgeving te (proberen) ontwijken.
De nieuwe wet aanvaard ook geen anti-religieuze hetzen meer.


Het zijn wetten die de democratie verstevigen, door anti-democratische toestanden op te heffen. Dat jij het ondermijnen van democratie gelijkt stelt aan het verbeteren ervan laat ik voor jou. Het is inderdaad nu een verboden strategie. De democratie heeft meer "punch" gekregen: erg hé?



Toon aan met één voorbeeld dat ik een communist, neo-communist ben.
Je lult weer uit je bek, vriendschap!


Ah ja: leg me nu eens uit waarom dit verschillend is? En wat er FOUT aan is ?


Dit is je reinste zever. Bij alle racistische misdaden, en die zijn er op alle continenten, wordt terecht opgetreden. Trouwens: wat is de racistische partij in Belgie die voor het discrimineren van witten pleit? Zie je ze niet een beetje te VEEEEEl vliegen, schat???



Allez, hop: voorbeelden van anti-blank racisme gevraagd:
- de partij
- de leiders van de partij
- de pamfletten
- de congressen...
Gij vangt echt heel weinig concreets, vrees ik. Bon: als je maar vangt natuurlijk

Kan alleen een politieke partij zich bezondigen aan racisme?
Kom eens wat meer buiten, het zonnetje zal u goed doen.
Als een bende allochtonen een blank meisje verkracht "omdat dat mag van de Koran" is dat geen racisme volgens u?
Als honderden Turken een paar tiental Koerden willen te lijf gaan omdat ze terecht protesteren tegen de vernieling van hun buurthuis, hoe noem je dat?
Hoe noem je de moord op drie paters in Turkije die zich bezighouden met het drukken van een Bijbel?
Wat met de groepsverkrachtingen van blanke meisjes in Mälmo, Oslo, Kopenhagen, Brussel etc.?
Waarom werden er enkel voertuigen van blanken in brand gestoken tijdens de opstand van islamieten in Frankrijk?
Waarom verhuizen de Joden uit Frankrijk naar Amerika en Israël?
Wat met de Deense 'Cartoon-rellen'?
Wat met Guido Demoor, Glen Wijnants, Patrich Mombaerts etc.?
En waarom al die aanvallen tegen homo's van Noorwegen tot het tipje van Italië (door islamieten)?
Waarom staat er praktisch geen kerk meer recht in Kosovo?
Hoe zit het met de bende-oorlogen tussen negers in London en hier bij ons? Is dat ook de schuld van Dewinter?
Waarom staken onze openbare diensten om de haverklap? Omdat ze belaagd, bestolen, beschimpt en bespuwt worden door wie?
Door wie word de Parijse, Londense en Brusselse metro onveilig gemaakt?
Ik kan hier nog een paar uur doorgaan hoor...
Maar deze feiten zijn voor u waarschijnlijk niet echt belangrijk he, belangrijker is dat Dewinter zijn politieke rechten voor 10 jaar verliest natuurlijk.

PS: ik ben uw "vriendschap" of "schat" niet. Hou je manieren maar, ik weet dat het moeilijk is voor u, maar doe een poging.

[HAMC]

Die lessen over de holocaust zijn een goed idee, stel je voor dat we het zouden vergeten.

Men zou het alle dagen daarover moeten hebben op televisie, radio, alle dag en weekbladen.

Oh wacht...

[ericferemans]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Infanterie

Kan alleen een politieke partij zich bezondigen aan racisme?

Bijlange niet: alle organisaties die zich hier mee bezighouden.

Kom eens wat meer buiten, het zonnetje zal u goed doen.

Je zonneslag doet blijkbaar zeer

Waarom werden er enkel voertuigen van blanken in brand gestoken tijdens de opstand van islamieten in Frankrijk?

Dit is te gek om los te lopen... Hebben voertuigen een aanduiding "behoort tot een blanke"? Waar blijf je ze halen, je stomme voorbeelden

Waarom verhuizen de Joden uit Frankrijk naar Amerika en Israël?

Omdat er meer Joden zijn?

Waarom staat er praktisch geen kerk meer recht in Kosovo?

zwarte humor ?. Waarom staan er zoveel islamitische grafzerken?

Ik kan hier nog een paar uur doorgaan hoor...

Alle voorbeelden die je aanhaalt geven geen enkel bewijs over het bestaan van een racistische reflex van vreemdelingen. Je redeneert als volleerd racist dat alles is gemotiveerd uit racisme in de wereld. Een zotte redenering die nergens op slaat.

Maar deze feiten zijn voor u waarschijnlijk niet echt belangrijk he, belangrijker is dat Dewinter zijn politieke rechten voor 10 jaar verliest natuurlijk.

Deze gedachtensprong is even gek als de rest van je beweringen: de strafmaat is lichter, en ik zie overigens geen verband tussen het door jou gefantaseerde racisme van vreemdelingen en het reeële racisme bij de VB bende...

PS: ik ben uw "vriendschap" of "schat" niet. Hou je manieren maar, ik weet dat het moeilijk is voor u, maar doe een poging.

Ok flurkje, ik zal niet meer zo lief zijn tegen jou, sjoe.

[system]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door HAMC

Die lessen over de holocaust zijn een goed idee, stel je voor dat we het zouden vergeten.

Men zou het alle dagen daarover moeten hebben op televisie, radio, alle dag en weekbladen.

Oh wacht...

Waarop moeten we dan wachten?

[HAMC]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door system

Waarop moeten we dan wachten?

Kies maar iets, maakt niet uit.

[Infanterie]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door ericferemans

Alle voorbeelden die je aanhaalt geven geen enkel bewijs over het bestaan van een racistische reflex van vreemdelingen. Je redeneert als volleerd racist dat alles is gemotiveerd uit racisme in de wereld. Een zotte redenering die nergens op slaat.

Deze gedachtensprong is even gek als de rest van je beweringen: de strafmaat is lichter, en ik zie overigens geen verband tussen het door jou gefantaseerde racisme van vreemdelingen en het reeële racisme bij de VB bende...

Met u discussiëren is onbegonnen werk. U brengt het niveau van dit forum ernstige schade toe. Zoek hulp voor hulp u vindt. Al het beste.

[Gringo]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Gorefest

Eerste minister Guy Verhofstadt heeft bevestigd dat hij in het onderwijs in het hele land graag de verplichting wil invoeren om les te geven over de Tweede Wereldoorlog,

Het gebeurd niet vlug maar ditmaal ben ik het volmondig eens met Piet Konijn. Die lessen over 40'-45' moeten er komen, niet morgen maar vandaag al. Om te beginnen moet er elke dag een aflevering uitgezonden worden in de klas van 'Dad's Army'. Als heel de reeks er door gedraaid is, dan mogen ze starten met 'Allo 'Allo!. Er gewoon inpompen in die puperkoppen, geen compassie gotver...
En waarom ook niet 'De brave soldaat Schweik' op het toneel voeren... of was dat in de first war? Ach, maakt allemaal niks uit, Dolf liep toen ook al rond, al was het maar als korporaal...

Trouwens, ik wist niet dat de führer ook een zangcarrière gestart was. Blijkbaar is dat ook nooit echt van de grond gekomen...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMsaM...related&search=

[filosoof]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Edina

Is WO2 dan sowieso niet opgenomen in de eindtermen?!?

Nù weet ik 't niet, maar Mijn leraar geschiedenis HMO is maar tot WO1 geraakt. Gelukkig dat er thuis een ruime bibliotheek was en dat ik op d'univ alles kon inhalen...

[the_dude]

wil dat dan zeggen dat er ook geleerd zal worden over hoe precies dolf aan de macht is gekomen?

[ministe van agitatie]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Tashunka

Maar laat ons een beetje obejectief blijven en de rol van de geallieerden en de Russen ook eens in een realistisch daglicht stellen dan.

Da's zeker waar: de Sovjets verloren zo'n 20 miljoenen mensen in die oorlog terwijl de VS zich pas kwamen bemoeien in juni '44 toen de Sovjets al aan de grenzen van het Duitse rijk stonden.

Ten gronde: lessen over WOII bestaan natuurlijk al bijzonder lang en de holocaust maakt daar deel van uit. Als men dat extra wil belichten, geen bezwaar, zeker niet wat de rol van de Belgische collaborerende overheid betreft.

Persoonlijk zou ik in het lessenpakket meer aandacht besteden aan het verzet dat duizenden Joden uit de naziklauwen heeft gered. Uit die geschiedenis leer je namelijk dat individuele morele verantwoordelijkheid op het juiste moment, je niet neerleggen bij een overmacht of de bevelen van de overheid niet alleen mensenlevens kan redden maar jaren na datum ook volstrekt gelegitimeerd kan worden. Je (ook militair) tegen de overheid verzetten kan dus niet alleen correct maar ook noodzakelijk zijn.
Een belangrijke les voor jonge mensen!

[jOOSt]

Mij goed dat er lessen over WOII komen, maar lessen over de Belgische genocide in de Congo zijn nog van meer nut, daar dit enkel een Belgische aangelegenheid was. Een grondige kijk op de wandaden van de Belgische staat en koningshuis zou volgens mij van groot nut zijn voor de jeugd. De Duitsers hebben miljoenen mensen de dood ingejaagd, maar de Belgen moeten zeker niet onderdoen.

[daiwa]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door jOOSt

Mij goed dat er lessen over WOII komen, maar lessen over de Belgische genocide in de Congo zijn nog van meer nut, daar dit enkel een Belgische aangelegenheid was. Een grondige kijk op de wandaden van de Belgische staat en koningshuis zou volgens mij van groot nut zijn voor de jeugd. De Duitsers hebben miljoenen mensen de dood ingejaagd, maar de Belgen moeten zeker niet onderdoen.

Zeet juist.
Hoe het nu zit weet ik niet, maar toen ik nog school liep werd alles in een positief daglicht gesteld, van handen afkappen of moorden werd nooit iets gezegd.

[born2bewild]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door filosoof

Nù weet ik 't niet, maar Mijn leraar geschiedenis HMO is maar tot WO1 geraakt.

dit verklaart veel. Het zou me verbazen als de geschiedenisleraar als enige onder de lat zou doorlopen op een school. Uw school.


Trouwens weeral een eigenaardige redenering: eindtermen die niet hard kunnen gemaakt worden (enfin, op uw school dan toch), en dan de lat nog hoger leggen.
Zodat er nog meer onderdoor gelopen kan worden.

Echt slim moet ge niet zijn, maar misschien was die leraar logica dezelfde als diegene die uw geschiedenis kennis op zijn geweten heeft.

[bosstraat5]

Erg dat de jeugd het Congo verleden niet

kent maar veel volwassenen hebben nog

nooit van Benjamin Freedman gehoord.

Vuile was van elk land buiten hangen?
Ook die van de Zionisten?

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...jamin+Freedman

http://www.iamthewitness.com/DarylBr..._Freedman.html

A Jewish Defector Warns America

Benjamin H. Freedman was one of the most

intriguing and amazing individuals of the

20th century. Mr. Freedman, born in 1890,

was a successful Jewish businessman of New

York City who was at one time the

principal owner of the Woodbury Soap

Company. He broke with organized Jewry

after the Judeo-Communist victory of 1945,

and spent the remainder of his life and

the great preponderance of his

considerable fortune, at least 2.5 million

dollars, exposing the Jewish tyranny which

has enveloped the United States. Mr.

Freedman knew what he was talking about

because he had been an insider at the

highest levels of Jewish organizations and

Jewish machinations to gain power over our

nation. Mr. Freedman was personally

acquainted with Bernard Baruch, Samuel

Untermyer, Woodrow Wilson, Franklin

Roosevelt, Joseph Kennedy, and John F.

Kennedy, and many more movers and shakers

of our times. This speech was given before

a patriotic audience in 1961 at the

Willard Hotel in Washington, D.C., on

behalf of Conde McGinley's patriotic

newspaper of that time, Common Sense.

Though in some minor ways this wide-

ranging and extemporaneous speech has

become dated, Mr. Freedman's essential

message to us - his warning to the West -

is more urgent than ever before. - K.A.S.

In 1946 he founded the League for Peace

and Justice in Palestine. Arnold Forster,

a high official of the Anti-Defamation

League of B'nai B'rith or ADL, in his 1988

autobiography Square One, called Benjamin

Freedman an affluent, apostate, self-

hating Jew. The magazine Commentary

(published by the American Jewish

Committee) for February, 1955, referred to

him as Jewish anti-Semite Benjamin

Freedman. Freedman himself stated in 1954:

"The word anti-Semitism is another word

which should be eliminated from the

English language. [The word] anti-Semitism

serves only one purpose today. It is used

as a smear word. When so-called or self-

styled Jews feel that anyone opposes any

of their objectives they discredit their

victims by applying the word anti-Semite

or anti-Semitic through all the channels

they have at their command and under their

control. I can speak with great authority

on that subject. Because so-called or

self-styled Jews were unable to disprove

my public statements in 1946 with regard

to the situation in Palestine, they spent

millions of dollars to smear me as an

anti-Semite hoping thereby to discredit me

in the eyes of the public who were very

much interested in what I had to say.

Until 1946 I was a little saint to all so

-called or self-styled Jews. When I

disagreed with them publicly on the

Zionist intentions in Palestine I became

suddenly Anti-Semite No. 1."


Zionists Rule the US

Here in the United States, the Zionists

and their co-religionists have complete

control of our government. For many

reasons, too many and too complex to go

into here at this time, the Zionists and

their co-religionists rule these United

States as though they were the absolute

monarchs of this country. Now you may say

that is a very broad statement, but let me

show you what happened while we were all

asleep.


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The First World War.

What happened? World War I broke out in

the summer of 1914. There are few people

here my age who remember that. Now that

war was waged on one side by Great

Britain, France, and Russia; and on the

other side by Germany, Austria-Hungary,

and Turkey.

Within two years Germany had won that war:

not only won it nominally, but won it

actually. The German submarines, which

were a surprise to the world, had swept

all the convoys from the Atlantic Ocean.

Great Britain stood there without

ammunition for her soldiers, with one

week's food supply and after that,

starvation. At that time, the French army

had mutinied. They had lost 600,000 of the

flower of French youth in the defense of

Verdun on the Somme. The Russian army was

defecting, they were picking up their toys

and going home, they didn't want to play

war anymore, they didn't like the Czar.

And the Italian army had collapsed.

Not a shot had been fired on German soil.

Not one enemy soldier had crossed the

border into Germany. And yet, Germany was

offering England peace terms. They offered

England a negotiated peace on what the

lawyers call a status quo ante basis. That

means: "Let's call the war off, and let

everything be as it was before the war

started." England, in the summer of 1916

was considering that - seriously. They had

no choice. It was either accepting this

negotiated peace that Germany was

magnanimously offering them, or going on

with the war and being totally defeated.


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Stalemate in 1916. Zionists Offer to get

USA into the War

While that was going on, the Zionists in

Germany, who represented the Zionists from

Eastern Europe, went to the British War

Cabinet and (I am going to be brief

because it's a long story, but I have all

the documents to prove any statement that

I make) they said: "Look here. You can yet

win this war. You don't have to give up.

You don't have to accept the negotiated

peace offered to you now by Germany. You

can win this war if the United States will

come in as your ally." The United States

was not in the war at that time. We were

fresh; we were young; we were rich; we

were powerful. They told England: "We will

guarantee to bring the United States into

the war as your ally, to fight with you on

your side, if you will promise us

Palestine after you win the war." In other

words, they made this deal: "We will get

the United States into this war as your

ally. The price you must pay is Palestine

after you have won the war and defeated

Germany, Austria-Hungary, and Turkey." Now

England had as much right to promise

Palestine to anybody, as the United States

would have to promise Japan to Ireland for

any reason whatsoever. It's absolutely

absurd that Great Britain, that never had

any connection or any interest or any

right in what is known as Palestine should

offer it as coin of the realm to pay the

Zionists for bringing the United States

into the war.* However, they did make that

promise, in October of 1916. And shortly

after that (I don't know how many here

remember it) the United States, which was

almost totally pro-German, entered the war

as Britain's ally.


* Benjamin Freedman obviously did not know

that the British peoples are the true

Israel whose land it is. Even so, they had

no right to give it to the Zionists whose

land it is not, even though it was

prophesied by Ezekiel that the Zionists

would do this and succeed - 11:15 Son of

man, thy brethren, [even] thy brethren,

the men of thy kindred, and all the House

of Israel wholly, [are] they unto whom the

inhabitants of Jerusalem have said, Get

you far from the "I AM": unto us is this

land given in possession (Idumean zionists

- 1948).


I say that the United States was almost

totally pro-German because the newspapers

here were controlled by Jews, the bankers

were Jews, all the media of mass

communications in this country were

controlled by Jews; and they, the Jews,

were pro-German. They were pro-German

because many of them had come from

Germany, and also they wanted to see

Germany lick the Czar. The Jews didn't

like the Czar, and they didn't want Russia

to win this war. These German-Jew bankers,

like Kuhn Loeb and the other big banking

firms in the United States refused to

finance France or England to the extent of

one dollar. They stood aside and they

said: "As long as France and England are

tied up with Russia, not one cent!" But

they poured money into Germany, they

fought beside Germany against Russia,

trying to lick the Czarist regime.

Now those same Jews, when they saw the

possibility of getting Palestine, went to

England and they made this deal. At that

time, everything changed, like a traffic

light that changes from red to green.

Where the newspapers had been all pro-

German, where they'd been telling the

people of the difficulties that Germany

was having fighting Great Britain

commercially and in other respects, all of

a sudden the Germans were no good. They

were villains. They were Huns. They were

shooting Red Cross nurses. They were

cutting off babies' hands. They were no

good. Shortly after that, Mr. Wilson

declared war on Germany.


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USA Railroaded into World War I after

Balfour Declaration

The Zionists in London had sent cables to

the United States, to Justice Brandeis,

saying "Go to work on President Wilson.

We're getting from England what we want.

Now you go to work on President Wilson and

get the United States into the war."

That's how the United States got into the

war. We had no more interest in it; we had

no more right to be in it than we have to

be on the moon tonight instead of in this

room. There was absolutely no reason for

World War I to be our war. We were

railroaded into (if I can be vulgar, we

were suckered into) that war merely so

that the Zionists of the world could

obtain Palestine. That is something that

the people of the United States have never

been told. They never knew why we went

into World War I.

After we got into the war, the Zionists

went to Great Britain and they said:

"Well, we performed our part of the

agreement. Let's have something in writing

that shows that you are going to keep your

bargain and give us Palestine after you

win the war." They didn't know whether the

war would last another year or another ten

years. So they started to work out a

receipt. The receipt took the form of a

letter, which was worded in very cryptic

language so that the world at large

wouldn't know what it was all about. And

that was called the Balfour Declaration.

The Balfour Declaration was merely Great

Britain's promise to pay the Zionists what

they had agreed upon as a consideration

for getting the United States into the

war. So this great Balfour Declaration,

that you hear so much about, is just as

phony as a three dollar bill. I don't

think I could make it more emphatic than

that.


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Versailles

That is where all the trouble started. The

United States got in the war. The United

States crushed Germany. You know what

happened. When the war ended, and the

Germans went to Paris for the Paris Peace

Conference in 1919 there were 117 Jews

there, as a delegation representing the

Jews, headed by Bernard Baruch. I was

there: I ought to know. Now what happened?

The Jews at that peace conference, when

they were cutting up Germany and parceling

out Europe to all these nations who

claimed a right to a certain part of

European territory, said, "How about

Palestine for us?" And they produced, for

the first time to the knowledge of the

Germans, this Balfour Declaration. So the

Germans, for the first time realized, "Oh,

so that was the game! That's why the

United States came into the war." The

Germans for the first time realized that

they were defeated, they suffered the

terrific reparations that were slapped

onto them, because the Zionists wanted

Palestine* and were determined to get it

at any cost.


* Without Adolf Hitler, who was half

Jewish and his Jewish generals, there

would be no Zionist State in Israel . Why

was Rudolf (Walter Richard) Hess (1894-

1987), who was Adolf Hitler's second-in-

command, kept incommunicado in Spandau

Prison until his death in 1987, after

parachuting into Scotland to seek peace in

1941? Even the prison guards were not

allowed to speak to him. What did he know

that had to be kept so secret and made him

seem so dangerous? Was the formation of

the Zionist State the REAL reason for WW2?

Was that what Hess knew?


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Effect on Germans when they understood

Jewish Activity

That brings us to another very interesting

point. When the Germans realized this,

they naturally resented it. Up to that

time, the Jews had never been better off

in any country in the world than they had

been in Germany. You had Mr. Rathenau

there, who was maybe 100 times as

important in industry and finance as is

Bernard Baruch in this country. You had

Mr. Balin, [Albert Ballin-RW] who owned

the two big steamship lines, the North

German Lloyd's and the Hamburg-American

Lines. You had Mr. Bleichroder, who was

the banker for the Hohenzollern family.

You had the Warburgs in Hamburg, who were

the big merchant bankers - the biggest in

the world. The Jews were doing very well

in Germany. No question about that. The

Germans felt: "Well, that was quite a

sellout."

It was a sellout that might be compared to

this hypothetical situation: Suppose the

United States was at war with the Soviet

Union. And we were winning. And we told

the Soviet Union: "Well, let's quit. We

offer you peace terms. Let's forget the

whole thing." And all of a sudden Red

China came into the war as an ally of the

Soviet Union. And throwing them into the

war brought about our defeat.* A crushing

defeat, with reparations the likes of

which man's imagination cannot encompass.!

Imagine, then, after that defeat, if we

found out that it was the Chinese in this

country, our Chinese citizens, who all the

time we had thought were loyal citizens

working with us, were selling us out to

the Soviet Union and that it was through

them that Red China was brought into the

war against us. How would we feel, then,

in the United States against Chinese? I

don't think that one of them would dare

show his face on any street. There

wouldn't be enough convenient lampposts to

take care of them. Imagine how we would

feel.


* Ironically, as is prophesied to happen

both by George Washington's Vision (see

end of article) and the Holy Scriptures.


Well, that's how the Germans felt towards

these Jews. They'd been so nice to them:

from 1905 on, when the first Communist

revolution in Russia failed, and the Jews

had to scramble out of Russia, they all

went to Germany. And Germany gave them

refuge. And they were treated very nicely.

And here they had sold Germany down the

river for no reason at all other than the

fact that they wanted Palestine* as a so-

called "Jewish commonwealth."


* Ezekiel 11:15 Son of man, thy brethren,

[even] thy brethren, the men of thy

kindred, and all the House of Israel

wholly, [are] they unto whom the

inhabitants of Jerusalem have said, Get

you far from the "I AM": unto us is this

land given in possession (Idumean zionists

- 1948).


Now Nahum Sokolow, and all the great

leaders and great names that you read

about in connection with Zionism today, in

1919, 1920, 1921, 1922, and 1923 wrote in

all their papers (and the press was filled

with their statements) that the feeling

against the Jews in Germany is due to the

fact that they realized that this great

defeat was brought about by Jewish

intercession in bringing the United States

into the war. The Jews themselves admitted

that. It wasn't that the Germans in 1919

discovered that a glass of Jewish blood

tasted better than Coca-Cola or Muenschner

Beer. There was no religious feeling.

There was no sentiment against those

people merely on account of their

religious belief. It was all political. It

was economic. It was anything but

religious. Nobody cared in Germany whether

a Jew went home and pulled down the shades

and said "Shema' Yisroel" or "Our Father."

Nobody cared in Germany any more than they

do in the United States. Now this feeling

that developed later in Germany was due to

one thing: the Germans held the Jews

responsible for their crushing defeat (and

the reparations, which ruined and crippled

Germany financially).


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Freedman says World War I was started

against Germany

And World War I had been started against

Germany for no reason for which Germany

was responsible. They were guilty of

nothing. Only of being successful. They

built up a big navy. They built up world

trade. You must remember that Germany at

the time of the French Revolution

consisted of 300 small city-states,

principalities, dukedoms, and so forth.

Three hundred separate little political

entities. And between that time, between

the times of Napoleon and Bismarck, they

were consolidated into one state. And

within 50 years they became one of the

world's great powers. Their navy was

rivaling Great Britain's, they were doing

business all over the world, they could

undersell anybody, they could make better

products. What happened as a result of

that?

There was a conspiracy between England,

France, and Russia to slap down Germany.

There isn't one historian in the world who

can find a valid reason why those three

countries decided to wipe Germany off the

map politically.


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German Camps in 1933

When Germany realized that the Jews were

responsible for her defeat, they naturally

resented it. But not a hair on the head of

any Jew was harmed. Not a single hair.

Professor Tansill, of Georgetown

University, who had access to all the

secret papers of the State Department,

wrote in his book, and quoted from a State

Department document written by Hugo

Schoenfelt, a Jew whom Cordell Hull sent

to Europe in 1933 to investigate the so-

called camps of political prisoners, who

wrote back that he found them in very fine

condition. They were in excellent shape,

with everybody treated well. And they were

filled with Communists. Well, a lot of

them were Jews, because the Jews happened

to comprise about 98 per cent of the

Communists in Europe at that time. And

there were some priests there, and

ministers, and labor leaders, and Masons,

and others who had international

affiliations.


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Germans fought Jewish Control

Some background is in order: In 1918-1919

the Communists took over Bavaria for a few

days. Rosa Luxemburg and Karl Liebknecht

and a group of other Jews took over the

government for three days. In fact, when

the Kaiser ended the war he fled to

Holland because he thought the Communists

were going to take over Germany as they

did Russia and that he was going to meet

the same fate as the Czar. So he fled to

Holland for safety, for security. After

the Communist threat in Germany was

quashed, the Jews were still working,

trying to get back into their former

status, and the Germans fought them in

every way they could without hurting a

single hair on anyone's head. They fought

them the same way that, in this country,

the Prohibitionists fought anyone who was

interested in liquor. They didn't fight

one another with pistols. Well, that's the

way they were fighting the Jews in

Germany. And at that time, mind you, there

were 80 to 90 million Germans, and there

were only 460,000 Jews. About one half of

one per cent of the population of Germany

were Jews. And yet they controlled all the

press, and they controlled most of the

economy because they had come in with

cheap money when the mark was devalued and

bought up practically everything.

The Jews tried to keep a lid on this fact.

They didn't want the world to really

understand that they had sold out Germany,

and that the Germans resented that.

The Germans took appropriate action

against the Jews. They, shall I say,

discriminated against them wherever they

could. They shunned them. The same way

that we would shun the Chinese, or the

Negroes, or the Catholics, or anyone in

this country who had sold us out to an

enemy and brought about our defeat.


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1933: Jews Declare Sacred War (and Trade

War) on Germany

After a while, the Jews of the world

called a meeting in Amsterdam. Jews from

every country in the world attended this

meeting in July 1933. And they said to

Germany: "You fire Hitler, and you put

every Jew back into his former position,

whether he was a Communist or no matter

what he was. You can't treat us that way.

And we, the Jews of the world, are serving

an ultimatum upon you." You can imagine

what the Germans told them.

So what did the Jews do?
In 1933, when Germany refused to surrender

to the world conference of Jews in

Amsterdam, the conference broke up, and

Mr. Samuel Untermyer, who was the head of

the American delegation and the president

of the whole conference, came to the

United States and went from the steamer to

the studios of the Columbia Broadcasting

System and made a radio broadcast

throughout the United States in which he

in effect said, "The Jews of the world now

declare a Holy War against Germany. We are

now engaged in a sacred conflict against

the Germans. And we are going to starve

them into surrender. We are going to use a

world-wide boycott against them. That will

destroy them because they are dependent

upon their export business." And it is a

fact that two thirds of Germany's food

supply had to be imported, and it could

only be imported with the proceeds of what

they exported. So if Germany could not

export, two thirds of Germany's population

would have to starve. There was just not

enough food for more than one third of the

population. Now in this declaration, which

I have here, and which was printed in the

New York Times on August 7, 1933, Mr.

Samuel Untermyer boldly stated that "this

economic boycott is our means of self-

defense. President Roosevelt has advocated

its use in the National Recovery

Administration," which some of you may

remember, where everybody was to be

boycotted unless he followed the rules

laid down by the New Deal, and which was

declared unconstitutional by the Supreme

Court of that time. Nevertheless, the Jews

of the world declared a boycott against

Germany, and it was so effective that you

couldn't find one thing in any store

anywhere in the world with the words "made

in Germany" on it. In fact, an executive

of the Woolworth Company told me that they

had to dump millions of dollars worth of

crockery and dishes into the river; that

their stores were boycotted if anyone came

in and found a dish marked "made in

Germany," they were picketed with signs

saying "Hitler," "murderer," and so forth,

something like these sit-ins that are

taking place in the South. At a store

belonging to the R. H. Macy chain, which

was controlled by a family called Strauss

who also happen to be Jews, a woman found

stockings there which came from Chemnitz,

marked "made in Germany." Well, they were

cotton stockings and they may have been

there 20 years, since I've been observing

women's legs for many years and it's been

a long time since I've seen any cotton

stockings on them. I saw Macy's boycotted,

with hundreds of people walking around

with signs saying "murderers,"

"Hitlerites," and so forth. Now up to that

time, not one hair on the head of any Jew

had been hurt in Germany. There was no

suffering, there was no starvation, there

was no murder, there was nothing.

Naturally, the Germans said, "Who are

these people to declare a boycott against

us and throw all our people out of work,

and make our industries come to a

standstill? Who are they to do that to

us?" They naturally resented it. Certainly

they painted swastikas on stores owned by

Jews. Why should a German go in and give

his money to a storekeeper who was part of

a boycott that was going to starve Germany

into surrendering to the Jews of the

world, who were going to dictate who their

premier or chancellor was to be? Well, it

was ridiculous.


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Reichskristallnacht and Rearmament

The boycott continued for some time, but

it wasn't until 1938, when a young Jew

from Poland walked into the German embassy

in Paris and shot a German official, that

the Germans really started to get rough

with the Jews in Germany. And you found

them then breaking windows and having

street fights and so forth.

Now I don't like to use the word "anti-

Semitism" because it's meaningless, but it

means something to you still, so I'll have

to use it. The only reason that there was

any feeling in Germany against Jews was

that they were responsible for World War I

and for this world-wide boycott.

Ultimately they were also responsible for

World War II, because after this thing got

out of hand, it was absolutely necessary

for the Jews and Germany to lock horns in

a war to see which one was going to

survive. In the meanwhile, I had lived in

Germany, and I knew that the Germans had

decided that Europe is going to be

Christian or Communist: there is no in

between. And the Germans decided they were

going to keep it Christian if possible.

And they started to re-arm. In November

1933 the United States recognized the

Soviet Union. The Soviet Union was

becoming very powerful, and Germany

realized that "Our turn was going to come

soon, unless we are strong." The same as

we in this country are saying today, "Our

turn is going to come soon, unless we are

strong." Our government is spending 83 or

84 billion dollars for defense. Defense

against whom? Defense against 40,000

little Jews in Moscow that took over

Russia, and then, in their devious ways,

took over control of many other countries

of the world.


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1961: Nuclear War? For Israel?

For this country now to be on the verge of

a Third World War, from which we cannot

emerge a victor, is something that

staggers my imagination. I know that

nuclear bombs are measured in terms of

megatons. A megaton is a term used to

describe one million tons of TNT. Our

nuclear bombs had a capacity of 10

megatons, or 10 million tons of TNT, when

they were first developed. Now, the

nuclear bombs that are being developed

have a capacity of 200 megatons, and God

knows how many megatons the nuclear bombs

of the Soviet Union have.

What do we face now? If we trigger a world

war that may develop into a nuclear war,

humanity is finished. Why might such a war

take place? It will take place as the

curtain goes up on Act 3: Act 1 was World

War I, Act 2 was World War II, Act 3 is

going to be World War III. The Jews of the

world, the Zionists and their co-

religionists everywhere, are determined

that they are going to again use the

United States to help them permanently

retain Palestine as their foothold for

their world government. That is just as

true as I am standing here. Not alone have

I read it, but many here have also read

it, and it is known all over the world.


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Secrecy (e.g. 1916 Zionist deal with USA)

can happen again

What are we going to do? The life you save

may be your son's. Your boys may be on

their way to that war tonight; and you

don't know it any more than you knew that

in 1916 in London the Zionists made a deal

with the British War Cabinet to send your

sons to war in Europe. Did you know it at

that time? Not a person in the United

States knew it. You weren't permitted to

know it. Who knew it? President Wilson

knew it. Colonel House knew it. Other

insiders knew it.

Did I know it? I had a pretty good idea of

what was going on: I was liaison to Henry

Morgenthau, Sr., in the 1912 campaign when

President Wilson was elected, and there

was talk around the office there. I was

"confidential man" to Henry Morgenthau,

Sr., who was chairman of the finance

committee, and I was liaison between him

and Rollo Wells, the treasurer. So I sat

in these meetings with President Wilson at

the head of the table, and all the others,

and I heard them drum into President

Wilson's brain the graduated income tax

and what has become the Federal Reserve,

and I heard them indoctrinate him with the

Zionist movement. Justice Brandeis and

President Wilson were just as close as the

two fingers on this hand. President

Woodrow Wilson was just as incompetent

when it came to determining what was going

on as a newborn baby. That is how they got

us into World War I, while we all slept.

They sent our boys over there to be

slaughtered. For what? So the Jews can

have Palestine as their "commonwealth."

They've fooled you so much that you don't

know whether you're coming or going.

Now any judge, when he charges a jury,

says, "Gentlemen, any witness who you find

has told a single lie, you can disregard

all his testimony." I don't know what

state you come from, but in New York state

that is the way a judge addresses a jury.

If that witness told one lie, disregard

his testimony.

[Infanterie]

Er stinkt iets aan de rol van zionisten in beide Wereldoologen.

[system]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Infanterie

Er stinkt iets aan de rol van zionisten in beide Wereldoologen.

En wat zou dat dan zoal kunnen zijn? Uw bewering lijkt verdacht op een populistische insinuatie, tenzij u afkomt met 'harde' feiten. Ik ben benieuwd.

[lombas]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Infanterie

Er stinkt iets aan de rol van zionisten in beide Wereldoologen.

Er is vooral iets mis met de rol van diegenen die eender welke oorlog beginnen.

[bruut geweld]

Wat in die lessen dan vooral naar voren gebracht zou moeten worden, is dat het de zigeuners zijn die het meest hebben afgezien en gedood als bevolkingsgroep en niet de joden.

maar dat wordt wordt graag verzwegen. past niet in het in het slachtofferplaatje van sommigen.