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#1021 |
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![]() Ken je een andere Vlaamse partij van wie de ideologie heeft aangezet tot moord?
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Dus stel ik me vragen over jouw motieven om het vonnis "geheel terecht" te vinden. Zolang je geen voorbeeld geeft van "het aanzetten tot geweld" sta je gewoon te kijk als een voorstander van politieke repressie. Citaat:
Niet opgeven Dali! Blijf jouw beduimeld lijstje van lone wolf anti-omvolkings-terroristen maar te onpas opdreunen om de aandacht af te leiden van de omvolking. Enneu: blijf goed uitkijken voor "Rainer Winklarson". Want jouw drang om dat lijstje te kunnen uitbreiden gaat ten koste aan je geloofwaardigheid. Citaat:
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#1023 |
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![]() Ja jong. Zeg eens wat je denkt over Van Themsche. Heeft hij het bij het verkeerde eind met zijn theorie dat er een omvolking plaatsvindt?
Ja? Ok, maar dan loopt je overtuiging niet gelijk met wat VB zegt. Nee? Is het dan iets van een mens met een correcte analyse die het wat te ver dreef? Leg dat eens uit. Ik post daarover regelmatig omdat ik geen helder antwoord krijg.
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#1024 |
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![]() Uit het vonnis:
In een conversatie op Discord van 31 augustus 2018, waaraan ook BK7 en M. M.deelnamen, besloot de eerste beklaagde dat zij voorbereid zullen zijn wanneer de dag vanhet geweld komt (PV…/2019). Dat ging als volgt:Wura4444 31-8-2018, 17:29:34‘Passief agressieve mensen zoals dat zijn echt het toppunt van zieligheid’ M. M 31-8-2018: 17:30:35‘Haha wat ne fgt’ M. M 31-8-2018, 17:30:56‘Waarom word geweld nergens goedgekeurd ik snap niet dat jullie je allemaal zo kunneninhouden’ B. VC 31-8-2018, 17:34:52‘Wordt’ [voornaam BK1] 31-8-2018, 17:54:11‘De dag van het geweld komt wel nog hoor’ [voornaam BK1]” 31-8-2018: 17:54:22‘Ik weet welke kant er op voorbereid zal zijn en welke niet’
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De onder andere door het Vlaams Blok geïnspireerde kruisridder Anders Behring Breivik zijn score was 77 slachtoffers. |
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Alleen linkiewinkies doen daar heel ambivalent over. Neem nu De Morgen. De ene keer noemen ze de omvolking een complottheorie: https://archive.ph/RQYsi Citaat:
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Labour wanted mass immigration to make UK more multicultural, says former adviser https://archive.ph/y4lZx Citaat:
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![]() Hier het volledige Telegraph artikel:
https://archive.ph/y4lZx https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...r-adviser.html _______________ Labour wanted mass immigration to make UK more multicultural, says former adviser Labour threw open Britain's borders to mass immigration to help socially engineer a "truly multicultural" country, a former Government adviser has revealed. 23 October 2009 The huge increases in migrants over the last decade were partly due to a politically motivated attempt by ministers to radically change the country and "rub the Right's nose in diversity", according to Andrew Neather, a former adviser to Tony Blair, Jack Straw and David Blunkett. He said Labour's relaxation of controls was a deliberate plan to "open up the UK to mass migration" but that ministers were nervous and reluctant to discuss such a move publicly for fear it would alienate its "core working class vote". As a result, the public argument for immigration concentrated instead on the economic benefits and need for more migrants. Critics said the revelations showed a "conspiracy" within Government to impose mass immigration for "cynical" political reasons. Mr Neather was a speech writer who worked in Downing Street for Tony Blair and in the Home Office for Jack Straw and David Blunkett, in the early 2000s. Writing in the Evening Standard, he revealed the "major shift" in immigration policy came after the publication of a policy paper from the Performance and Innovation Unit, a Downing Street think tank based in the Cabinet Office, in 2001. He wrote a major speech for Barbara Roche, the then immigration minister, in 2000, which was largely based on drafts of the report. He said the final published version of the report promoted the labour market case for immigration but unpublished versions contained additional reasons, he said. He wrote: "Earlier drafts I saw also included a driving political purpose: that mass immigration was the way that the Government was going to make the UK truly multicultural. "I remember coming away from some discussions with the clear sense that the policy was intended – even if this wasn't its main purpose – to rub the Right's nose in diversity and render their arguments out of date." The "deliberate policy", from late 2000 until "at least February last year", when the new points based system was introduced, was to open up the UK to mass migration, he said. Some 2.3 million migrants have been added to the population since then, according to Whitehall estimates quietly slipped out last month. On Question Time on Thursday, Mr Straw was repeatedly quizzed about whether Labour's immigration policies had left the door open for the BNP. In his column, Mr Neather said that as well as bringing in hundreds of thousands more migrants to plug labour market gaps, there was also a "driving political purpose" behind immigration policy. He defended the policy, saying mass immigration has "enriched" Britain, and made London a more attractive and cosmopolitan place. But he acknowledged that "nervous" ministers made no mention of the policy at the time for fear of alienating Labour voters. "Part by accident, part by design, the Government had created its longed-for immigration boom. "But ministers wouldn't talk about it. In part they probably realised the conservatism of their core voters: while ministers might have been passionately in favour of a more diverse society, it wasn't necessarily a debate they wanted to have in working men's clubs in Sheffield or Sunderland." Sir Andrew Green, chairman of the Migrationwatch think tank, said: "Now at least the truth is out, and it's dynamite. "Many have long suspected that mass immigration under Labour was not just a cock up but also a conspiracy. They were right. "This Government has admitted three million immigrants for cynical political reasons concealed by dodgy economic camouflage." The chairmen of the cross-party Group for Balanced Migration, MPs Frank Field and Nicholas Soames, said: "We welcome this statement by an ex-adviser, which the whole country knows to be true. "It is the first beam of truth that has officially been shone on the immigration issue in Britain." A Home Office spokesman said: “Our new flexible points based system gives us greater control on those coming to work or study from outside Europe, ensuring that only those that Britain need can come. “Britain's borders are stronger than ever before and we are rolling out ID cards to foreign nationals, we have introduced civil penalties for those employing illegal workers and from the end of next year our electronic border system will monitor 95 per cent of journeys in and out of the UK. “The British people can be confident that immigration is under control.” |
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#1028 |
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![]() En hier de oorspronkelijke column van Andrew Neather in The Evening Standard. (Datum is verkeerd en auteur ontbreekt)
https://www.standard.co.uk/hp/front/...s-6786170.html https://archive.ph/efpQJ _________________ Don't listen to the whingers - London needs immigrants Amid the sound and fury over Nick Griffin, there's a sad but unnoticed fact: it has taken this fiasco to make politicians talk about the impact of immigration. Yesterday MPs Frank Field and Nicholas Soames called for a 75 per cent cut in immigration and accused the Government of "clamping down" on any debate. What's missing is not only a sense of the benefits of immigration but also of where it came from. It didn't just happen: the deliberate policy of ministers from late 2000 until at least February last year, when the Government introduced a points-based system, was to open up the UK to mass migration. Even now, most graduates with good English and a salary of £40,000 or the local equivalent abroad are more or less guaranteed enough points to settle here. The results in London, and especially for middle-class Londoners, have been highly positive. It's not simply a question of foreign nannies, cleaners and gardeners - although frankly it's hard to see how the capital could function without them. Their place certainly wouldn't be taken by unemployed BNP voters from Barking or Burnley - fascist au pair, anyone? Immigrants are everywhere and in all sorts of jobs, many of them skilled. My family's east European former nannies, for example, are model migrants, going on to be a social worker and an accountant. They have integrated into London society. But this wave of immigration has enriched us much more than that. A large part of London's attraction is its cosmopolitan nature. It is so much more international now than, say, 15 years ago, and so much more heterogeneous than most of the provinces, that it's pretty much unimaginable for us to go back either to the past or the sticks. Field and Soames complain about schools where English is not the first language for many pupils. But in my children's south London primary school, the international influence is primarily the large numbers of (mostly middle-class) bilingual children, usually with one parent married to a Brit. My children have half- or wholly Spanish, Italian, Swiss, Austrian, Croatian, Bulgarian, Congolese, Chinese and Turkish classmates. London's role as a magnet for immigration busted wide open the stale 1990s clichés about multiculturalism: it's a question of genuine diversity now, not just tacking a few Afro-Caribbean and Bengali events on to a white British mainstream. It's one of the reasons Paris now tends to look parochial to us. So why is it that ministers have been so very bad at communicating this? I wonder because I wrote the landmark speech given by then immigration minister Barbara Roche in September 2000, calling for a loosening of controls. It marked a major shift from the policy of previous governments: from 1971 onwards, only foreigners joining relatives already in the UK had been permitted to settle here. That speech was based largely on a report by the Performance and Innovation Unit, Tony Blair's Cabinet Office think-tank. The PIU's reports were legendarily tedious within Whitehall but their big immigration report was surrounded by an unusual air of both anticipation and secrecy. Drafts were handed out in summer 2000 only with extreme reluctance: there was a paranoia about it reaching the media. Eventually published in January 2001, the innocuously labelled "RDS Occasional Paper no. 67", "Migration: an economic and social analysis" focused heavily on the labour market case. But the earlier drafts I saw also included a driving political purpose: that mass immigration was the way that the Government was going to make the UK truly multicultural. I remember coming away from some discussions with the clear sense that the policy was intended - even if this wasn't its main purpose - to rub the Right's nose in diversity and render their arguments out of date. That seemed to me to be a manoeuvre too far. Ministers were very nervous about the whole thing. For despite Roche's keenness to make her big speech and to be upfront, there was a reluctance elsewhere in government to discuss what increased immigration would mean, above all for Labour's core white working-class vote. This shone through even in the published report: the "social outcomes" it talks about are solely those for immigrants. And this first-term immigration policy got no mention among the platitudes on the subject in Labour's 1997 manifesto, headed Faster, Firmer, Fairer. The results were dramatic. In 1995, 55,000 foreigners were granted the right to settle in the UK. By 2005 that had risen to 179,000; last year, with immigration falling thanks to the recession, it was 148,000. In addition, hundreds of thousands of migrants have come from the new EU member states since 2004, most requiring neither visas nor permission to work or settle. The UK welcomed an estimated net 1.5 million immigrants in the decade to 2008. Part by accident, part by design, the Government had created its longed-for immigration boom. But ministers wouldn't talk about it. In part they probably realised the conservatism of their core voters: while ministers might have been passionately in favour of a more diverse society, it wasn't necessarily a debate they wanted to have in working men's clubs in Sheffield or Sunderland. In part, too, it would have been just too metropolitan an argument to make in such places: London was the real model. Roche was unusual in that she was a London MP, herself of east European Jewish stock. But Labour ministers elsewhere tend studiously to avoid ever mentioning London. Meanwhile, the capital's capacity to absorb new immigrants depends in large part on its economic vitality and variety. There's not a lot of that in, say, south Yorkshire. And so ministers lost their nerve. I hope it's not too late now, post-Question Time, for London to make the case for migration. Of course we're too small a country to afford an open door - but, by the same token, if the immigrants dry up, this city and this country will become a much poorer and less interesting place. Why is it so hard for Gordon Brown to say that? |
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#1029 |
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![]() Wanneer het over de omvolking gaat, hebben linkiewinkies last van wat Michael Anton "celebration parallax" noemt: "Dat gebeurt helemaal niet en het is geweldig dat het gebeurt."
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#1034 |
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![]() Ik vind het altijd vreemd dat men zit te schermen met 'ik ben het eens met een vonnis' ofwel 'ik ben het niet eens met een vonnis'...
Waarom hebben we rechtbanken ? Om te oordelen hee... ![]() En als de veroordeelde het niet eens is, heeft die uiteraard alle recht om in beroep te gaan. En alle andere rechtsmiddelen uit te putten. Vanwaar toch die poujadistische reflex om rechterlijke uitspraken die niet in het eigen ideologisch kader passen als waardeloos en zelfs fout te benoemen ? Mocht de rechter in beroep DVL vrijspreken, dan moeten we dat even neutraal aanvaarden als de veroordeling in eerste aanleg. Tenzij men straatgerecht wil, 1933 toestanden en zo. |
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#1035 |
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![]() Nog een citaat van je Dries:
“Als binnenkort wanhopige mensen een aanslag plegen omdat ze zien dat vredevol verzet tegen de omvolking niet meer mogelijk is, kleeft er bloed aan de handen van het establishment.”
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Tot nu toe gaf je alleen maar voorbeelden van scherpzinnige opmerkingen over hoe West-Europa, met haar roekeloos immigratiebeleid, dezelfde weg opgaat als Libanon: toen daar honderdduizenden Palestijnse vluchtelingen genereus werden binnengelaten, sloeg de precaire meerderheid van Christenen om in een moslim meerderheid. En ging de burgeroorlog van start. Hier zijn Antwerpen, Brussel en een hele resem andere West-Europese steden op weg naar een moslim meerderheid. De gevolgen die dit nu al heeft voor de veiligheid van cartoonisten, holebi's, leerkrachten, vrouwen, festivalgangers, Joden, enz ... kunnen we dagelijks zien in het nieuws. Er zijn veel landen in de wereld waar zowel islamieten als niet-islamieten wonen. Toch ken ik geen enkel land waar grote massa's islamieten in harmonie leven met hun niet-islamitische landgenoten. Waarom denk jij dat een islamiserend West-Europa hierop een uitzondering zal vormen? Dat zou een unicum zijn in de geschiedenis van de islam. |
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